Seeking Arrangements

[AmericanPi]

I'm not arguing or upset. A girl once told me that the appeal of the site is the lack of pretense. Everyone knows why they're there. Girls are there for "help" in whatever form that means, usually money. We're there for, well, whatever. I'm seeing more profiles that say, "I'm open to what happens over time. " That's girl code for "I'm ready to bag a rich husband. " Not on a typical 21 yr old profile but late twenties / early 30's who's biological clocks are ticking, family or social pressure, etc. A good friend with two gorgeous daughters once told me that he taught his girls early on that there are nice rich guys and nice poor guys, so they may as well get a rich one. My point is there are girls using that site as a (mostly traditional) dating sight. Probably not in your 18-23 yr old filter range but I am seeing this in profiles of more, mature (readers older) girls. There are just too many reasons to generalize. I will certainly concede that if tye sugar disappears the chance of them stuck around is close to nil, at best maybe they give you the occasional sympathy bang but they're definitely shopping for another reliable source in the meantime time.

I agree with everything you wrote. And I'm quite alright with what being on Seeking means for me and the girls I bang there. I'm fully aware girls are trading their sexual appeal today because it's a fading asset. I actually admire girls who have the foresight to embrace this earlier in their lives, and bag a rich guy while doing so doesn't mean dating their dad. You know who I'm talking about. The smartest hot sorority girls in my college got linked early and hard to a guy who was clearly on the way up (Eg dad is a CEO and son will take over one day). The dumbest ones got drunk through their twenties and got desperate by 35. I am now middle aged and I have female friends who are still single at my age and it's sad. They always, always ask if I have friends for them. And I always play coy and think 2 things. First, some of my friends know about my whoring and there's no way I'm cross pollinating that into another friend group. And second, none of my friends my age want to date women their age. Some of these women spent their prime years trying to be girl bosses or whatever and talking about how they don't need a man, only to wake up at 45 desperate, unhappily childless, and with poor romantic prospects. I have no idea how I got on this tangent, but I'm writing on the phone, so I'm just going to hit upload.

[FilthyBeaver]

I'm not arguing or upset. A girl once told me that the appeal of the site is the lack of pretense. Everyone knows why they're there. Girls are there for "help" in whatever form that means, usually money. We're there for, well, whatever. I'm seeing more profiles that say, "I'm open to what happens over time. " That's girl code for "I'm ready to bag a rich husband. " Not on a typical 21 yr old profile but late twenties / early 30's who's biological clocks are ticking, family or social pressure, etc. A good friend with two gorgeous daughters once told me that he taught his girls early on that there are nice rich guys and nice poor guys, so they may as well get a rich one. My point is there are girls using that site as a (mostly traditional) dating sight. Probably not in your 18-23 yr old filter range but I am seeing this in profiles of more, mature (readers older) girls. There are just too many reasons to generalize. I will certainly concede that if tye sugar disappears the chance of them stuck around is close to nil, at best maybe they give you the occasional sympathy bang but they're definitely shopping for another reliable source in the meantime time.

I actually wasn't talking about you. But I do want to say that when you say these things that follow:

I own a business that practically everybody in the world needs one or multiple times and I'd do her "favors" when necessary.

The girl who talked about getting married would have stuck around if I were willing to as the bigger prize are all my assets not a few hundred bucks when we screw.

You realize those things are what I'm talking about right? You're just using different words and different forms of currency.

Look I'm not judging anyone on this forum (yes I am). I just think it's important to be lucid and clear eyed about what's what. Pretense isn't free. The minute you start living in a narrative that doesn't map to reality is the minute you expose yourself.

I'm not saying seeking girls are conmen, but this is how conmen work. Nobody ever thinks they're a mark. And not all conmen are awful horrible people. I've known many girls who do this kind of work (yes it's work; not all work requires a pay stub or a time sheet) for the best reasons including needing to take care of ailing parents, kids at home, or to fund a business venture so they can stop sucking old dick for 3000 dollars a month. But strip away all the embellishments and at the end of the day 99 percent of this reduces to an older guy exchanging financial resources of some sort to a girl trading her her youth and beauty in the form of sexual exchange. I'm ok with it. Just don't delude yourself into thinking the extra variables change the equation.

[AmericanPi]

I can agree with most but I saw a girl for a few months and never gave her a dime. I own a business that practically everybody in the world needs one or multiple times and I'd do her "favors" when necessary. I cut it off with her because she was bat shit crazy.

Feelings do develop on both sides, should they instantly disappear when the quid pro you is gone? Depends. 90% of the time I'd say yes but the girl who talked about getting married would have stuck around if I were willing to as the bigger prize are all my assets not a few hundred bucks when we screw.

Some just want a good time at a nice restaurant or a show that guys their age just can't do. I've heard this more than once. That doesn't mean we're monogamous and I've never made such a request / demand because I'm realistic about what this is. But when they start crying during a breakup it's more than a transaction.

I had a girl seem to take genuine pleasure in breaking it off with me, she knew I was emotional invested. It was early in my seeking career and she did it in a very public place so I couldn't go nuts (not my style anyway). Aside from that I get what I want, real, fake, delusional, etc. From that site.

I actually wasn't talking about you. But I do want to say that when you say these things that follow:

I own a business that practically everybody in the world needs one or multiple times and I'd do her "favors" when necessary.

The girl who talked about getting married would have stuck around if I were willing to as the bigger prize are all my assets not a few hundred bucks when we screw.

You realize those things are what I'm talking about right? You're just using different words and different forms of currency.

Look I'm not judging anyone on this forum (yes I am). I just think it's important to be lucid and clear eyed about what's what. Pretense isn't free. The minute you start living in a narrative that doesn't map to reality is the minute you expose yourself.

I'm not saying seeking girls are conmen, but this is how conmen work. Nobody ever thinks they're a mark. And not all conmen are awful horrible people. I've known many girls who do this kind of work (yes it's work; not all work requires a pay stub or a time sheet) for the best reasons including needing to take care of ailing parents, kids at home, or to fund a business venture so they can stop sucking old dick for 3000 dollars a month. But strip away all the embellishments and at the end of the day 99 percent of this reduces to an older guy exchanging financial resources of some sort to a girl trading her her youth and beauty in the form of sexual exchange. I'm ok with it. Just don't delude yourself into thinking the extra variables change the equation.

[FilthyBeaver]

I can agree with most but I saw a girl for a few months and never gave her a dime. I own a business that practically everybody in the world needs one or multiple times and I'd do her "favors" when necessary. I cut it off with her because she was bat shit crazy.

Feelings do develop on both sides, should they instantly disappear when the quid pro you is gone? Depends. 90% of the time I'd say yes but the girl who talked about getting married would have stuck around if I were willing to as the bigger prize are all my assets not a few hundred bucks when we screw.

Some just want a good time at a nice restaurant or a show that guys their age just can't do. I've heard this more than once. That doesn't mean we're monogamous and I've never made such a request / demand because I'm realistic about what this is. But when they start crying during a breakup it's more than a transaction.

I had a girl seem to take genuine pleasure in breaking it off with me, she knew I was emotional invested. It was early in my seeking career and she did it in a very public place so I couldn't go nuts (not my style anyway). Aside from that I get what I want, real, fake, delusional, etc. From that site.

Welcome, friend, to the Seekingverse. Here you will find occasional additional acts of delusion, including:

- she's my girlfriend now.

- I still give her money / gifts but if I didn't we'd still be a thing.

- we bareback but she only does it with me.

- she loves old guys way more than guys her age. They are sexually better. She even told me so.

Don't worry. Delusion exists on the girl side too. Maybe even more!!

- this isn't sex work..

[FilthyBeaver]

I won't argue that money is their primary reason for being there. After that there are a million reasons they stick around. I don't see the point of that entire paragraph.

All of these girls have money at the top of their list. If their motivation was fame instead of fortune, then they'd be spending their time practicing for American Idol, instead of posting profiles in Seeking. And if their motivation was sex instead of money, they'd be out at a bar every night, hitting on as many men as possible, or posting profiles on Ashley Madison instead. Money always comes first. That being said, there's absolutely no logic in the argument that if these girls are willing to shag strangers for money, then there's no way they'd be willing to go to dinner with them for money, or give them a legit, clothed massage for money, or anything else that involves less physical contact than sex. In no universe does that claim hold water. Now there may be some things they aren't willing to do for money, such as commit an armed bank robbery. But if it's any lesser act than sex, of course they are going to be willing to do it, because it's less intense and doesn't require as much effort on their part, and they are still getting paid. And it's certainly possible that they also dislike their customers who pay them for non sexual services.

[AmericanPi]

All of these girls have money at the top of their list. If their motivation was fame instead of fortune, then they'd be spending their time practicing for American Idol, instead of posting profiles in Seeking. And if their motivation was sex instead of money, they'd be out at a bar every night, hitting on as many men as possible, or posting profiles on Ashley Madison instead. Money always comes first. That being said, there's absolutely no logic in the argument that if these girls are willing to shag strangers for money, then there's no way they'd be willing to go to dinner with them for money, or give them a legit, clothed massage for money, or anything else that involves less physical contact than sex. In no universe does that claim hold water. Now there may be some things they aren't willing to do for money, such as commit an armed bank robbery. But if it's any lesser act than sex, of course they are going to be willing to do it, because it's less intense and doesn't require as much effort on their part, and they are still getting paid. And it's certainly possible that they also dislike their customers who pay them for non sexual services.

Welcome, friend, to the Seekingverse. Here you will find occasional additional acts of delusion, including:

- she's my girlfriend now.

- I still give her money / gifts but if I didn't we'd still be a thing.

- we bareback but she only does it with me.

- she loves old guys way more than guys her age. They are sexually better. She even told me so.

Don't worry. Delusion exists on the girl side too. Maybe even more!!

- this isn't sex work.

- I know what I'm worth (no. You don't sweetie. That's why you have to insist it. Because nobody believes it. It's less than you think.)

- A man on this site, of all sites, will pay me generously for platonic friendship.

- I'm his only sexual interest right now. I've got him down pat.

- he travels so much because of work.

[VanessasClient]

All of these girls have money at the top of their list. If their motivation was fame instead of fortune, then they'd be spending their time practicing for American Idol, instead of posting profiles in Seeking. And if their motivation was sex instead of money, they'd be out at a bar every night, hitting on as many men as possible, or posting profiles on Ashley Madison instead. Money always comes first. That being said, there's absolutely no logic in the argument that if these girls are willing to shag strangers for money, then there's no way they'd be willing to go to dinner with them for money, or give them a legit, clothed massage for money, or anything else that involves less physical contact than sex. In no universe does that claim hold water. Now there may be some things they aren't willing to do for money, such as commit an armed bank robbery. But if it's any lesser act than sex, of course they are going to be willing to do it, because it's less intense and doesn't require as much effort on their part, and they are still getting paid. And it's certainly possible that they also dislike their customers who pay them for non sexual services.

[FilthyBeaver]

Met what I thought was a 9 from her pics. Turns how she weighed at least double and had so many track marks on her arms I could beilve she was walking.

Met a girl who demanded to be compensated for a meet and greet dinner. When I asked my she said that's her rate and her time is valuable. Lmmfao.

Met another girl who was at least 10 yrs older than her pics and was looking for seed money to start an enema clinic. I can't make this shit up, I'm not that creative. Also wouldn't stop complaining about how hard it is to survive my my city but had no job and no intentions of getting a job.

Met a girl and told her how happy I was generally with what I've been able to pull from the site. She asked me why I would say such a thing and blocked me.

Few more from my SBs.

I will buy your used unwashed panties for 100 EUR.

My wife is out of town. Can I bring my 3 year old to our date?

You look like my wife's sister. I always wanted to fuck her. You are the closest.

I have an office intern I can bring along for threesome.

Seriously. Some are hilarious. Some are outright stupid.

But, my SB and I have fun discussing these.

I have had a potential SB show up stoned for meet and greet. Nope. Walked away.

Another wanted to bring her employer's baby (she worked as babysitter) to our 2nd date which was supposed to be non platonic. She seemed decent atmeet and greet and then went downhill with that one request.

[Gfefan]

Few more from my SBs.

I will buy your used unwashed panties for 100 EUR.

My wife is out of town. Can I bring my 3 year old to our date?

You look like my wife's sister. I always wanted to fuck her. You are the closest.

I have an office intern I can bring along for threesome.

Seriously. Some are hilarious. Some are outright stupid.

But, my SB and I have fun discussing these.

I have had a potential SB show up stoned for meet and greet. Nope. Walked away.

Another wanted to bring her employer's baby (she worked as babysitter) to our 2nd date which was supposed to be non platonic. She seemed decent atmeet and greet and then went downhill with that one request.

There are some complete douche bags out there. One of the reasons I like seeking so much is to hear the stories some girls have. "You must prove to that you're worth my time," "I only want anal sex and I'll pay you 10 k for it," "I can only see you for lunch a hotel because my wife might find out. ".

That must be music to the ears of some 20 yr old trying to reconcile what she's got herself into.

[FilthyBeaver]

There are some complete douche bags out there. One of the reasons I like seeking so much is to hear the stories some girls have. "You must prove to that you're worth my time," "I only want anal sex and I'll pay you 10 k for it," "I can only see you for lunch a hotel because my wife might find out. ".

That must be music to the ears of some 20 yr old trying to reconcile what she's got herself into.

About 6 months ago, saw some interview clips of 0 nly-Faan entertainers making a lot of $, but stating openly (with disdain) that they hated their "customers". With that simp scene raking in so much money, it really doesn't surprise me to have guys paying to be in the same space as women. Doesn't make sense to me, but whatever works.



It may sound silly, but if these guys with money to burn treat the ladies that poorly, they will get turfed. This whole scene is not *just* about the money. Just how we're not just into the bedroom action with pretty robots.

F.

[Foolish]

Try as I might, I have yet to find this unicorn that is the man willing to pay a girl for a platonic sugar relationship.

About 6 months ago, saw some interview clips of 0 nly-Faan entertainers making a lot of $, but stating openly (with disdain) that they hated their "customers". With that simp scene raking in so much money, it really doesn't surprise me to have guys paying to be in the same space as women. Doesn't make sense to me, but whatever works.

I recently had a 55 year old guy take my SB on a platonic dinner date and paid her 1 K.

Would she really turn down another thousand dollars plus extras because the 55-yo guy was showing her off to the waitress?

It may sound silly, but if these guys with money to burn treat the ladies that poorly, they will get turfed. This whole scene is not *just* about the money. Just how we're not just into the bedroom action with pretty robots.

F.

[The Cane]

What loophole? I thought you found a way to browse profiles without an UNPAID account, I. E. Without logging in at all. Like you can read this forum without logging in. Perhaps I'm missing something here.

I think you're confusing couple of things here. You don't have to have a paid account to browse. I don't have one, although I used to, and I am able to browse as much as I want to. But, I do have to sign in though. So, browse for free while logged in. Anyway, that's how I was able to see this one with the cum on her nose! Hahahahaha!

[NoBuglyFitches]

How did you see her profile if you'd deleted your account? Is it possible to browse seeking profiles without an active (unpaid) account?

I will not go into how to view profiles without a paid account because I don't want that loophole shut down.

What loophole? I thought you found a way to browse profiles without an UNPAID account, I. E. Without logging in at all. Like you can read this forum without logging in. Perhaps I'm missing something here. It certainly possible to create a dummy / lurker account on SA. It's also possible to let your paid subscription expire and continue to use that account to view profiles. But when you make a new account and a new subscription, SA may detect that you now have more than one active account, which can get you banned.

I have a girl account that I use to scope out the competition. After using it for about 20 min I convinced myself I'm a catch

This can also get you banned if SA algos catch you. Also, many SD profiles (competition) are hidden.

[Gfefan]

I do the same. Lurk around, find profiles that interest me, make a secret note.

My thinking is the exact opposite. I want them to think I'm a seeking virgin and therefore gullible and inexperienced. I do this by writing a somewhat substantial, wity / pithy profile and no scammer would spend near that much time or have that much wit. I've never had an issue with a lack of any kind of varification and wouldn't pay a dime to do so with hacking scandals happening every other week these days. If I'm really interested in a girl and she doesn't reply I just chalk it up to the fact that she has hundreds of choices and I don't fit the bill. Nothing personal, move along now. If she is interested I take a pic of my license plate making very sure the badges are readable right after we agree on a nuetral meeting place and she knows I'm the real deal.

I've said this before, I have a girl account that I use to scope out the competition. After using it for about 20 min I convinced myself I'm a catch (to sound arrogant as fuck) but it's true. There are way too many guys out of their league and / or way too old to be chasing 20 yr olds. I haven't delected that account but I probably should as I haven't logged in in well over a year.

I will not go into how to view profiles without a paid account because I don't want that loophole shut down. I'm assuming that since most of you are successful enough to spends hundreds or more for a single date, you're intelligent enough to make said money and are therefore intelligent enough to figure it out yourself. If you can't then just call me a liar, I'm good with that.

[FilthyBeaver]

For me it's not a matter of if, it's a matter of what nationality.

Yeah right now I scoff at these guys that pay for platonic. I don't know I would ever get there. But I can def visualize myself at 80 w a hot live in girlfriend and we don't ever have serious sex. Just watch her booping around in her bikini. Giving me the doe eyes at dinner. Sweet kisses cuddling and affection. Maybe a BJ a couple times a month. I'the be good. Happy to pay her and keep her happy for that.