Seeking Arrangements

[Steve 9696]

Ok fellas. I know I'm considered pretty good at this but seek some advice from other learned souls. Here's the sitch:

Kayla is my sorta long term Tampa girlfriend. I see her 3 days a month every month when I am in

After having trouble finding anyone suddenly I have two and they both seem down. Neither can touch Kayla for pure looks. They are both cute and maybe just OK bodies. Maybe 7's. Angie is a cute Latina and a student. She's been engaged enough and seems down to meet. And when we priorized dinner, dancing, kissing, Netflix, drinking and dinner in, she had the right answer LOL. And Nellie is a black girl who's cute but possibly thick (thought this about Kayla from pics and damn was I wrong!) and she is sooooo on point on the girlfriend thing. Just a chatty bundle of fun. Def more a pro than Angie. But maybe not a pro pro.

So damn I don't want to let either of these girls down. I want to meet them both. But I only have the one night. I need more dicks or more nights. Creative ideas fellas?

Ok Nellie kinda answered the question for me. She sent some pics which were kinda meh but a video that was very sexy and compelling. So this AM we started chatting about meetup specifics and she asks what I like in private. So i ask her if she means explicitly and she says yes. So I just lay it out there. And she's like "damn I love all that but esp fingering and giving and receiving head". Nice! It's def on with Nellie.

[FilthyBeaver]

I'd tell one I can meet for lunch around noon but have to meet a client for a big deal at 5. Tell the 2nd girl you can't meet until after 5. One hotel room, revolving door. Sounds like you answered your own question re Kayla, time to go, too routine / no excitement.

I'm not one for juggling, one at a time is plenty. I'd rather have a bit of a dry spell between girls than always keep one or more on the hook. It's too much of a complication.

Ok fellas. I know I'm considered pretty good at this but seek some advice from other learned souls. Here's the sitch:

Kayla is my sorta long term Tampa girlfriend. I see her 3 days a month every month when I am in town. Her face is an 8/9 and her body is the only full on ten I have ever been with. And we bareback. So what's the problem you say?

Well she's become a bit like a wife to be honest! We started out going out to dinner. Drinking. Clubs. And passionate sex. Oh even went to the sex club together. But more recently she eased me down the slippery slope of wifeness. Started eating in some. Maybe Netflix and chill. Now that's ALL that we do. She actually admitted she prefers this and just did "those things" to attract me but she's a homebody. And she had a bad experience at work that made her not like to be seen in public with me.

So I can hang with this amazing girl at home and fuck her bareback but I am strapped inside my hotel or eating out alone. It just sucks that it's not like it used to be and doesn't appear to be going back.

[Steve 9696]

Ok fellas. I know I'm considered pretty good at this but seek some advice from other learned souls. Here's the sitch:

Kayla is my sorta long term Tampa girlfriend. I see her 3 days a month every month when I am in town. Her face is an 8/9 and her body is the only full on ten I have ever been with. And we bareback. So what's the problem you say?

Well she's become a bit like a wife to be honest! We started out going out to dinner. Drinking. Clubs. And passionate sex. Oh even went to the sex club together. But more recently she eased me down the slippery slope of wifeness. Started eating in some. Maybe Netflix and chill. Now that's ALL that we do. She actually admitted she prefers this and just did "those things" to attract me but she's a homebody. And she had a bad experience at work that made her not like to be seen in public with me.

So I can hang with this amazing girl at home and fuck her bareback but I am strapped inside my hotel or eating out alone. It just sucks that it's not like it used to be and doesn't appear to be going back.

So I've started exploring. I'm doing two nights with her and one with another girl. I just tell her I am only in town for two nights obviously. If you recall last time on my free night I had a great date but no sex. Ok thank you next. So here is my problem.

I've got one Night without Kayla. Top spot was going to a 27!year old Thai girl. She reminds me a lot of Anna at Olina in London. She's def a pro but seems like she'll bring the GFE. Well she made things easier by saying she had to work Sat nights. So we are going to meetup for brunch (got to get rid of Kayla) so that is cool and I still have my night open for another girl.

After having trouble finding anyone suddenly I have two and they both seem down. Neither can touch Kayla for pure looks. They are both cute and maybe just OK bodies. Maybe 7's. Angie is a cute Latina and a student. She's been engaged enough and seems down to meet. And when we priorized dinner, dancing, kissing, Netflix, drinking and dinner in, she had the right answer LOL. And Nellie is a black girl who's cute but possibly thick (thought this about Kayla from pics and damn was I wrong!) and she is sooooo on point on the girlfriend thing. Just a chatty bundle of fun. Def more a pro than Angie. But maybe not a pro pro.

So damn I don't want to let either of these girls down. I want to meet them both. But I only have the one night. I need more dicks or more nights. Creative ideas fellas?

[FilthyBeaver]

Yes, I do agree that you don't pay for a meet & greet. If she's demanding money for that she falls into the category of a desperate girl and I'm not interested.

I have her on straight allowance rather than ppm. Never considered this before but it works with this girl. She needs a certain amount and I'm ok with it. I don't really keep track of the comings and goings but as I said, I'm happy. If that changes I'll recalibrate but for me for now she's a keeper. For reference, we used 500 as the goal and worked into the allowance number. She sleeps over and neither of us watches the clock but we're both really busy and I'd like to think she's there because she wants to be most of the time. If not, I'm ok with being lied to. The bottom line is I'm attracted to her and I don't know where you meet someone much younger than you for an ongoing physical relationship outside of SA. The bonus for me is there is a real mental connection too.

Can you clarify whether you are giving your 9. 5 money and or gifts in a non transactional type of way or your doing it straight up for free?

BTW the one thing he said right was don't ever pay for a meet and greet. I am sure you agree with that.

[Steve 9696]

Disagree with almost everything. Read my lengthy post a few pages back about my experiences on SA. It was night and day between premium and diamond and mooches (I call them party girls) don't get past chat. I'm in a very happy arrangement with one right now, she's a 9.5 with an 11 personality. I want to spend my time with her and the feeling is mutual because she comes whenever she wants with no discussion of money. Last thing I see is a mooch, I see an engaging girl of my dreams who's trying to make it on her own with no help from anyone and I'm glad to be able to help her. There are limits to what I'm willing to do and she knows I'm not jealous or possessive so she can have as many as she wants so long as she respects my time and our plans. She's got a full time job and who knows how many arrangements, I don't care or care to know as I'm getting what I want. I went into SA with my eyes wide open trying to understand their motivations for being there. With that information I figured out who I was interested in meeting and wrote the rest of. It was time consuming and oh so painful but I gave no regrets, I found a gem.

FYI In my top tier coastal city I've been quoted as low as 300 and as high as 1 k. Most are 5-8 and at least half are 5.

Can you clarify whether you are giving your 9. 5 money and or gifts in a non transactional type of way or your doing it straight up for free?

BTW the one thing he said right was don't ever pay for a meet and greet. I am sure you agree with that.

[FilthyBeaver]

Disagree with almost everything. Read my lengthy post a few pages back about my experiences on SA. It was night and day between premium and diamond and mooches (I call them party girls) don't get past chat. I'm in a very happy arrangement with one right now, she's a 9.5 with an 11 personality. I want to spend my time with her and the feeling is mutual because she comes whenever she wants with no discussion of money. Last thing I see is a mooch, I see an engaging girl of my dreams who's trying to make it on her own with no help from anyone and I'm glad to be able to help her. There are limits to what I'm willing to do and she knows I'm not jealous or possessive so she can have as many as she wants so long as she respects my time and our plans. She's got a full time job and who knows how many arrangements, I don't care or care to know as I'm getting what I want. I went into SA with my eyes wide open trying to understand their motivations for being there. With that information I figured out who I was interested in meeting and wrote the rest of. It was time consuming and oh so painful but I gave no regrets, I found a gem.

FYI In my top tier coastal city I've been quoted as low as 300 and as high as 1 k. Most are 5-8 and at least half are 5.

Instead of getting hit up for $200 to meet these mooches, if you are a Diamond member they ask $400 up front for the privilege of taking them to lunch or dinner and you will be spending another $200 on the restaurant check. They order the most expensive items on the menu to see if you flinch.

Then they ask for double for a PPM. I recommend you dress down and tell them you may not be the richest guy on the site but you are the nicest and most genuine. If it is all about the money for these mooches, then you would not be satisfied long term with them anyway.

This is supposed to be a mutual job interview with no pressure on either person. How many people, except mooches, ask for money to show up at a job interview? Stop pandering to these mooches!

[Gfefan]

Not the exact right forum here but the agencies forum seems very quiet. So, asking here. Please bear with me.

Has anyone used topcompanions agency in the Belgium / Netherlands area?

They have some hot chicks and not sure how goood the service is.

[NeilGeorge]

I did learn that there aren't many diamond members so maybe I need to rethink my strategy if I ever plop back on.

Instead of getting hit up for $200 to meet these mooches, if you are a Diamond member they ask $400 up front for the privilege of taking them to lunch or dinner and you will be spending another $200 on the restaurant check. They order the most expensive items on the menu to see if you flinch.

Then they ask for double for a PPM. I recommend you dress down and tell them you may not be the richest guy on the site but you are the nicest and most genuine. If it is all about the money for these mooches, then you would not be satisfied long term with them anyway.

This is supposed to be a mutual job interview with no pressure on either person. How many people, except mooches, ask for money to show up at a job interview? Stop pandering to these mooches!

[Gfefan]

Trying to do a southern spain tour with my SB.

Hopefully, lot of sun, sand and beach. On top of some good bareback sex. Looking forward to it.

[FilthyBeaver]

What's up with all the shirtless pics and grandpa's? FFS I'm a catch! I did learn that there aren't many diamond members so maybe I need to rethink my strategy if I ever plop back on.

So you had me super curious and I carefully created a girl profile (don't want to fuck up my status and of course it's tricky to not get tied into it via IP etc.) I was surprised there are ALOT of guys out there in two cities I do. And more surprising MOST had pictures. Wtf? I didn't poke into anyones profile to see what they said because I didn't want to show up in their "interests" list and then contact me. It already felt super creepy and I couldn't do it for long! All these ugly old dudes looking for pussy. I guess I am one (well not ugly!) but it just felt super creepy! I'm amazed girls survive the gauntlet to find the gems!

[DonCarlos1234]

So you had me super curious and I carefully created a girl profile (don't want to fuck up my status and of course it's tricky to not get tied into it via IP etc.) I was surprised there are ALOT of guys out there in two cities I do. And more surprising MOST had pictures. Wtf? I didn't poke into anyones profile to see what they said because I didn't want to show up in their "interests" list and then contact me. It already felt super creepy and I couldn't do it for long! All these ugly old dudes looking for pussy. I guess I am one (well not ugly!) but it just felt super creepy! I'm amazed girls survive the gauntlet to find the gems!

I was out with another SB singer / actress last night. Dinner at high end place, bilingual, close to a 10. She pressed for a LT deal. I basically laughed at her. Then when I pretended to offer 1 mil she stopped her pitch and said yes. Not that she wasn't worth it but I had others on my mind. I actually wanted that LT deal she was proposing, I just didn't want to pay for her tuition. She had just come off of a 2 year SD relationship. And I guess I was her number 1 pitch to guy. I asked how long will it take to get someone to take you on and support you. "Maybe 2 weeks, not long" My point is there all kinds of deals out there that the crème de la crème somehow finds. They are not those ugly ducklings you talk about in the ratio comments. I think it depends on where you are also. I am from the USA but never spend any time searching there. I am in Colombia with 50 top girls to wine and dine or make my case. Which is something like this which I've probably read here previously. Cut the crap, I am here now and I can make a donation now. Save your searches for that whale of a SD and we can continue having fun and if he never shows up. Well I'm not supporting your every ask. We might even like each other. LOL You'll be surprised at how many "unobtainable" SB will see the light. Also think about this. How many of these girls would we ever meet in any other way? Dick Creame is simple: Dermaskin THE RATIO in Colombia is getting morphed into 50%+ p4 p WHICH IS FINE. EXCEPT WHEN YOU LET THEM message you. If you search SA and only write the ones you are interested in. Wala. You get what you pay for. In my case it's still 20% p4 p but doesn't bother me. I reject most of them anyway. Oh as long as I am posting, my favorite thing now is to find all of the ones wearing push up bras, hiding their breasts in photos and showing off that Colombian ass. God that.

's not for me. YMMV.

[Steve 9696]

Have you guys ever registered a female profile to take a look at the competition in your area?

I did, upon wondering why I was getting such a good hit rate.

My competition in the area consisted of low effort profiles with zero pictures, poor spelling, guys obviously just looking for escorts (hell, half of the profiles were obliquely hinting at bareback, things like 'I've had a vasectomy' or 'Looking for a intimate and natural meets' guys with pictures that wouldn't look out of place under a newspaper headline of 'Local man arrested for kiddy fiddling. '.

I wouldn't say I have much game, but if you can present yourself as a normal human being (hide the dirty pervert you are) it really isn't difficult to get interest from quality girls.

So you had me super curious and I carefully created a girl profile (don't want to fuck up my status and of course it's tricky to not get tied into it via IP etc.) I was surprised there are ALOT of guys out there in two cities I do. And more surprising MOST had pictures. Wtf? I didn't poke into anyones profile to see what they said because I didn't want to show up in their "interests" list and then contact me. It already felt super creepy and I couldn't do it for long! All these ugly old dudes looking for pussy. I guess I am one (well not ugly!) but it just felt super creepy! I'm amazed girls survive the gauntlet to find the gems!

[Steve 9696]

Steve I can't respond to your messages. Please clear out your mailbox. Thanks!

Fire away.

[J Janni]

Have you guys ever registered a female profile to take a look at the competition in your area?

I did, upon wondering why I was getting such a good hit rate.

My competition in the area consisted of low effort profiles with zero pictures, poor spelling, guys obviously just looking for escorts (hell, half of the profiles were obliquely hinting at bareback, things like 'I've had a vasectomy' or 'Looking for a intimate and natural meets' guys with pictures that wouldn't look out of place under a newspaper headline of 'Local man arrested for kiddy fiddling. '.

I wouldn't say I have much game, but if you can present yourself as a normal human being (hide the dirty pervert you are) it really isn't difficult to get interest from quality girls.

[The Cane]

A friend of mine had to get shot injections into his dick to get erections. Not sure what it was?

No gain hahahaha!