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  1. #3115

    Tips to identify Pro

    I am newbie to SA and I am on my 2nd trip to CDMX.

    As you know we are SA to find semi pro and non pro. I am noticing lot of pro are also on SA. Sometimes I know / realize only after meet.

    Any tips on on how to filter / identify the pro.

    I generally ignore anyone long than 6 months but I notice, the girls keep creating new profiles. Also the type of photo they have sometimes gives me indication. Sometimes if the girl puts a $$ per meeting upfront, that is red flag for me but hard to know if they are pro or they are trying to filter generous v / s non generous folks.

    Any suggestions or tips?

    Thanks in advance.

  2. #3114

    SA troll got me banned

    Earlier today I had some idiot girl actually post to me. "What would you pay me for my virginity"? WTF is wrong with the world? She also starts asking what are you looking for on this app? I hate it when they do that. Now I'm guessing those are also SA trolls. I made a comment, "I don't think there are any virgins in Colombia" which probably was picked up as a interest in such. Who knows. It would be asinine to even consider. I admit putting a number on a girls profile which was a blatant mistake the girls seem to think it's ok. They do it all the time. (trolls agan?0 They suspended my account for "soliciting prostitution" and I guess I will try calling them but I don't need SA anyway since they let so many fakers, hookers, gold diggers and deviants on there. LOL It takes up too much time separating the sincere girls from all that. And I have already done my share of prospecting to last a long time without any new leads. STILL compared to what the girls constantly ask for (in exchange for their services.) . I am an Angel. YMMV and eventually I will do some kind of workaround. New phone number, new. Whatever. Who else has had this same result lately? Being banned?

  3. #3113

    My Overnights Approach

    Quote Originally Posted by TedFerguson  [View Original Post]
    Hey guys,

    I'm in Colombia and have a few options for a longer term SB / SD relationship where we've gone out for a few dates. What's fair price wise when taking it to the next level, like an overnight stay or flying out to vacation on the beach a few days?

    - Should it happen organically where she just wants to stay overnight or go somewhere and I choose the extra tip?

    - Should we agree on a 2-3 x the amount for a date for the overnight or the day?

    What has worked for you guys?
    SP,

    I have only done Colombia (Cartagena) 1 x using SA. Since I prefer to have overnights right away, before the first meet I set that expectation up using SA messaging and I vet them using video chat via WhatsApp. I find this cost effective since I can get some action 3 x a day using this strategy. When doing my Cartagena vetting I vetted two girls who were responsive to overnights right away. I had both girls for two full days and I managed to get full days at 400 k COP / day one girl and 300 k COP / day another girl.

    In Mexico I have had multiple overnights using the same strategy, setting the expectation up over SA messaging then vetting them using WhatsApp. The price range I've had success with are 200-300 USD / day with multiple sessions. I managed to take one girl to a one week long vacation and we did not even discuss money. I ended up giving her $500 (plus trip expenses) in all since it was a full week of BBFS and BBBJCIM. I find in Latin America you can transition most girls to overnight with a small increase in their typical rate E. G. If a usual date costs $150 then you can do an overnight at $200.

  4. #3112
    Quote Originally Posted by JJanni  [View Original Post]
    Messed up on my dates on arriving back in the UK, got in a day early.
    snip

    When girls like this are available in the UK, for much better sex for a lower hourly rate. Why does anyone bother with escorts in the UK?
    Is the 100 PPM is that GBP?

    Is your experience in a major city? Like London, Bristol, Birmingham, Manchester? Or different. No need to be too specific.

    I have a pseudo work possibility for travelling to the midlands but last time I was there it was a dry baron sex area.

  5. #3111

    At cdmx. Thank you for informative posts

    I am at cdmx now. At an airbnb close to hilton reforma.

    My Spanish is zero. So it is bit of struggle for me to find english speaking ones. I am mainly into slim 18 to 23 age girls.

    If you have any recommendations, please PM the profile links of anyone that will for the above.

    Thank you.

    Also I am open to meet for drink if anyone is in town.

    Quote Originally Posted by DramaFree11  [View Original Post]
    Anywhere in San Pedro is great. Nice restaurants, no crime or drugs. I only drive to the hotel, then I walk or take Didi. I do not want to mislead anyone San Pedro is not cheap, but prices are fair. Most girls are happy with tacos abd a couple of drinks.

    As I said, I was having way more fun in Mexico City, but spending way more money and getting laid less, but I was really attracted to the ladies there. Most of the girls I met there were professionals or highly educated. (Trust me you will not find those type of girls in MDE I do not care what those guys say), Also, you did not have to deal with the family issues that are a major issue in MTY. Long term I am sure I will end up in Mexico City, for now I need to stick with MTY, plus the model is there. We have been together almost 2 years. She does make my life better, but she does not want to get married. Life is good.

  6. #3110
    Quote Originally Posted by TedFerguson  [View Original Post]
    Hey guys,

    I'm in Colombia and have a few options for a longer term SB / SD relationship where we've gone out for a few dates. What's fair price wise when taking it to the next level, like an overnight stay or flying out to vacation on the beach a few days? What has worked for you guys?
    All the girls I have been with were so psyched to go on a trip that I did not even bring up a price. I gave them like $100 to 200 afterwards as a gift but the whole concept of paying for it kind of would ruin the trip for me.

    If you are considering taking them to Mexico, you will either have to give them $400 or so that they can have on hand or better yet, fly to Colombia and travel with them to Mexico the first time. Getting Colombian women into Mexico can be hit or miss. The form women have to fill out to fly to Mexico now is really long.

  7. #3109
    Quote Originally Posted by DramaFree11  [View Original Post]
    As I said, I was having way more fun in Mexico City, but spending way more money and getting laid less, but I was really attracted to the ladies there. Most of the girls I met there were professionals or highly educated. (Trust me you will not find those type of girls in MDE I do not care what those guys say), Also, you did not have to deal with the family issues that are a major issue in MTY. Long term I am sure I will end up in Mexico City, for now I need to stick with MTY, plus the model is there. We have been together almost 2 years. She does make my life better, but she does not want to get married. Life is good.
    Where do you stay in CDMX? For some reason, I always end up in Reforma.

  8. #3108

    Transitioning from dinner dates to overnight and vacations together

    Hey guys,

    I'm in Colombia and have a few options for a longer term SB / SD relationship where we've gone out for a few dates. What's fair price wise when taking it to the next level, like an overnight stay or flying out to vacation on the beach a few days?

    - Should it happen organically where she just wants to stay overnight or go somewhere and I choose the extra tip?

    - Should we agree on a 2-3 x the amount for a date for the overnight or the day?

    What has worked for you guys?

  9. #3107

    Spinning plates.

    Messed up on my dates on arriving back in the UK, got in a day early. Slept and woke up with a major case of the horn. Blondey chav single mum who I've got lined up for tomorrow is giving me major flake vibes, I can't be bothered travelling further afield to see some of the raunchy teenagers I've got lined up.

    So I spam messaged some local girls I already had on WhatsApp and hadn't really spoken to further. A fair few replies, nobody that fits the currently required bill (available NOW, can host.) One girl did. A 25 year old very petite brunette. Single mother. We'd had a few good chats, intellectually a cut above the rest of chavvy sluts I've been chasing.

    She agreed to meet right now for a coffee and a chat at a cafe around from her place, on the explicit understanding that if I wasn't a weirdo we were going back to hers. 30 minutes later, I'm there and sat at a table is an ultra petite brunette, pretty girl, dressed casually in yoga pants, a tanktop that showed off her tummy (she's got abs, sucker for that). Lively conversation while we drink the coffee, before she says the magic words, "Shall we go back to mine?" Yes please ma'am.

    Back at her house, we have a tea and more chat before I lean over and kiss her on the sofa. Tug off her top and she's braless, perfect little be cups. Get her in my lap and she's devouring my face, grinding into me and moaning. The rest of the encounter, over the new couple of hours, proceeded the same. Ultra passionate, ultra horny. Go down on her and she's already soaking wet, bends almost double while mashing my face into her perfect little pussy, almost suffocating me / drowning me. This is what Seeking is all about for me, casual paid sex with better looking girls than most escorts. Who are in to the sex, not phoning it in.

    After she's recovered, I tug her over my lap and she hops on bareback in cowgirl. I almost cum about 2 minutes in, but lift her off (she's tiny) and think about Margaret Thatcher. Literally a breath of wind away from unloading all over her pussy and ass. Claw it back.

    Run through all the positions (even try the Steve for a bit, but we're on a couch and the angle is wrong). After my earlier brush with the brink, I'm now taking ages to cum. We take it in turns to be the more active partner, taking several breaks (she swears she's cum four times so far) where we keep eachother on the edge with oral and hands, before I finally unload in her in missionary.

    Shower afterwards, chat and smooch on the couch. I'm the first guy she's met from Seeking. I believe her. Her profile has only been on there a couple of months, was inactive for several weeks when I messaged her. She really likes me (I am a degenerate, but present as a polite reasonably young Englishman). She wants to see me regularly. (Well by her count I made her cum five times, so.) She offered to half her PPM. 200 down to 100. Next time will be an overnight at hers. Either go out for dinner or order in, watch a movie, drink some wine and take our time.

    Considering it. 100 ppm on my doorstep is hard to turn down and she's good banter, with a lot of common interests. She knows I'm only around for the next three weeks or so.

    Leave and she's already messaging me about plans for next week.

    And just this minute. Blondey chav (see earlier pictures) is back in touch, sending me her address and confirming for tomorrow. 100 ppm at hers, as long as I want. BBFSCIP.

    Two Seeking girls in less than 24 hours?

    If Blondey turns out anywhere near as good as the brunette, I might just shelve the total hotties further afield (travel costs, higher ppm, hotel costs) and rotate between these two until I fuck off to the Philippines.

    When girls like this are available in the UK, for much better sex for a lower hourly rate. Why does anyone bother with escorts in the UK?

  10. #3106
    Quote Originally Posted by Elvis2008  [View Original Post]
    SP, when DF goes to MTY, he usually has a car. Where he stays is the nicest part (or one of the nicest parts) of the city. At some point, I will get my shit together and get my paperwork in and drive as well. When I have gone, I fly and the hotel I stay at is the Sheraton Ambassador. I had no problems bringing guests in and it is in a part of the city where you can walk to a bunch of malls and restaurants. I have never had any issues in Centro but it does not feel as safe. The other hotel guys like is the Krystal.

    My favorite hotel was the Fiesta Americana, which too is in the center of town, and it is nicer than the Sheraton but about double the price.

    We have both used the escort agencies. I have used Alicia's doll house, and for the most part, have been underwhelmed compared to what I get on SA.

    I used https://www.laboutique.vip/calendario.php in the past in Mexico City and had some good luck. I also used twitter in CDMX with great luck. When you are between SA sessions and want to try some strange, this may be a better and cheaper alternative. I was paying $125 an hour for laboutique girls and as low as $55 for Twitter girls.

    I hope that helps. Make sure you give us a report back. Outside of CDMX, Monterrey was the best city I found for seeking, and I would have given up on it if not for DF.
    Anywhere in San Pedro is great. Nice restaurants, no crime or drugs. I only drive to the hotel, then I walk or take Didi. I do not want to mislead anyone San Pedro is not cheap, but prices are fair. Most girls are happy with tacos abd a couple of drinks.

    As I said, I was having way more fun in Mexico City, but spending way more money and getting laid less, but I was really attracted to the ladies there. Most of the girls I met there were professionals or highly educated. (Trust me you will not find those type of girls in MDE I do not care what those guys say), Also, you did not have to deal with the family issues that are a major issue in MTY. Long term I am sure I will end up in Mexico City, for now I need to stick with MTY, plus the model is there. We have been together almost 2 years. She does make my life better, but she does not want to get married. Life is good.

  11. #3105
    Quote Originally Posted by SamPeter71  [View Original Post]
    Thanks for tge suggestion. This seems to be in suburbs. Is it easy for girls to come there?
    SP, when DF goes to MTY, he usually has a car. Where he stays is the nicest part (or one of the nicest parts) of the city. At some point, I will get my shit together and get my paperwork in and drive as well. When I have gone, I fly and the hotel I stay at is the Sheraton Ambassador. I had no problems bringing guests in and it is in a part of the city where you can walk to a bunch of malls and restaurants. I have never had any issues in Centro but it does not feel as safe. The other hotel guys like is the Krystal.

    My favorite hotel was the Fiesta Americana, which too is in the center of town, and it is nicer than the Sheraton but about double the price.

    We have both used the escort agencies. I have used Alicia's doll house, and for the most part, have been underwhelmed compared to what I get on SA.

    I used https://www.laboutique.vip/calendario.php in the past in Mexico City and had some good luck. I also used twitter in CDMX with great luck. When you are between SA sessions and want to try some strange, this may be a better and cheaper alternative. I was paying $125 an hour for laboutique girls and as low as $55 for Twitter girls.

    I hope that helps. Make sure you give us a report back. Outside of CDMX, Monterrey was the best city I found for seeking, and I would have given up on it if not for DF.

  12. #3104
    Quote Originally Posted by Globo  [View Original Post]
    So in my experiences:

    Week 1 - research and intro messages.

    Week 2 - Identify prospects and casual info.

    Week 3 - High Intensity discussions with main candidates.

    Week 3 or 4 - Meet.

    You can do it in one or two weeks but the first step can take the most work and is the most unrewarding.

    Interested to see what other people think.
    I have a 'pipeline' of opportunities. Not all girls will fit for 4 weeks, not all girls will fit 8 weeks, some will jump 1-2 days. Just remember don't burn anyone off for every one girl that is ready to meet 'now' too early there are other 'now' girls that haven't even joined the site yet.

    So you need a few strategies which you need after determining which timing the girl is comfortable with.

    The girls that are ready 'now' : For me I tell them I am going offline as I need to finish a project, I'll be back in contact xx / yy. This means I am not constantly delaying them everyday.

    The longer term girls I like the concept of the final intensity period. They need a 'maintenance' set of messages each week or weekend.

    Also, for actual calendar dates and timings, I always give a date that is beyond when I expect to arrive. It's easier to pull a date forward for one chosen girl than it is to push back dates for 10 girls. One time I even had an awkward experience of an Indonesian girl waiting at the airport on the off chance I would actually arrive and had lost her number. That was awkward when she called my name through the crowd.

  13. #3103

    Yes and Also

    Quote Originally Posted by Globo  [View Original Post]
    This is a pretty key topic. You need to start far enough in advance that you identify, contact and vet people but you don't want to do it too far in advance or things will get stale after a while. In my experience you need to have a high tempo intensity exchange before you meet to keep the attention and interest. This is especially so with the nicer, non pro SB's.

    The research and initial messages always takes the longest and is the most frustrating. Messaging 80-100 ladies. I tried sending the same message to a load of people but usually this does not work well and its better to have a slight custom message instead. Once you have a few interested ladies replying there is the casual back and forth and then onto a separate chat app for more intense discussions to see what if they are DTF and what they are interested in. I leave the intimacy and $ questions until quite late. In my experience GPS and Pros will raise this pretty early whilst the more traditional SB are not as comfortable with these discussions. Leaving this till later also give you the chance to build a better rapport and interest form then so the $ typically drops if you have peaked their interest as well.

    These ladies can get 100 messages a day so you need to keep the later, interesting conversations at a more regular high intensity level to maintain their interests. It can easily lose intensity if too far in advance and then both you and they can go cold and its almost impossible to recover from that.

    So in my experiences:

    Week 1 - research and intro messages.

    Week 2 - Identify prospects and casual info.

    Week 3 - High Intensity discussions with main candidates.

    Week 3 or 4 - Meet.

    You can do it in one or two weeks but the first step can take the most work and is the most unrewarding.

    Interested to see what other people think.
    I think this is spot on for best practice. But would point out major success I've had outside these lines.

    Some of my very best SBs have been snagged 6-8 weeks out. This does take overall care and feeding during that period but in the end when you meet you are like old friends and the chemistry is fabulous. I can count 5-10 girls that fall in this category. I didn't start with them at 6-8 weeks because it's best practice — only that I browse when bored. But it's worked out spectacularly well.

    At the other end of the spectrum I've had several dates where I literally hit them up day of or day before. I think these girls get bored of inaction and when you say you are going out and do they want to come some just say fuck it it's on! It's kinda great also. Happened just last week.

  14. #3102

    How far advanced I should get the pay membership and having line up?

    Quote Originally Posted by MahaSiddha  [View Original Post]
    How far advanced I should get the pay membership and having line up?

    I plan a trip to Mexico City and Panama city in Late April / Early May.

    It seems promising using SA to get bbfscip with semi-pro or civi girl while having overseas trip.

    So I should say upfront what I want so no confusion correct?

    Thanks for the help.
    This is a pretty key topic. You need to start far enough in advance that you identify, contact and vet people but you don't want to do it too far in advance or things will get stale after a while. In my experience you need to have a high tempo intensity exchange before you meet to keep the attention and interest. This is especially so with the nicer, non pro SB's.

    The research and initial messages always takes the longest and is the most frustrating. Messaging 80-100 ladies. I tried sending the same message to a load of people but usually this does not work well and its better to have a slight custom message instead. Once you have a few interested ladies replying there is the casual back and forth and then onto a separate chat app for more intense discussions to see what if they are DTF and what they are interested in. I leave the intimacy and $ questions until quite late. In my experience GPS and Pros will raise this pretty early whilst the more traditional SB are not as comfortable with these discussions. Leaving this till later also give you the chance to build a better rapport and interest form then so the $ typically drops if you have peaked their interest as well.

    These ladies can get 100 messages a day so you need to keep the later, interesting conversations at a more regular high intensity level to maintain their interests. It can easily lose intensity if too far in advance and then both you and they can go cold and its almost impossible to recover from that.

    So in my experiences:

    Week 1 - research and intro messages.

    Week 2 - Identify prospects and casual info.

    Week 3 - High Intensity discussions with main candidates.

    Week 3 or 4 - Meet.

    You can do it in one or two weeks but the first step can take the most work and is the most unrewarding.

    Interested to see what other people think.

  15. #3101
    Quote Originally Posted by AsianPursuits  [View Original Post]
    Would a girl that is a genuine newbie commit through Chat to meeting a stranger for dinner, sex and cash?
    Best one I ever met was a genuine newbie in Tijuana. Had overnights with her about 4 times a month for about $600 per month until she left town.

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