Seeking Arrangements

[NapataJohn]

. I had a wing man one time and the guy turned out to be a drunk and an overall disaster. .

You for sure do not need a wingman.

[Steve 9696]

It makes plenty of sense, but with my experience using Seeking, nearly all the girls I communicated with on there were some of the most arrogant cum dumpsters I have ever come across. I can't think of another setting where I've found more insolent idiots as that, anywhere from the office at work, to the cashier at the grocery store, I don't think I've ever seen a group of women as bad as I encountered from Seeking.

All true. But buried in this massive pile of bullshit are amazing gems who make it totally worth it. Like:

Alexa. Vegas. Amazing Italian black Filipina mix. Just a regular girl trying to get extra cash on the side, doing something she likes. Having great dinners and great sex. (Me too!) met up twice in Vegas. Hit it off. Flew her to Miami. Had an amazing time. Repeated a couple more times in Vegas. Gorgeous. Smart. Nice person. Truly feel thankful to have known her.

Kayla Miami. Gorgeous black girl. Spent many weekends with her. Top notch.

Megan. NYC. Amazing Viet / Korean mix student. Never done it before or since. Amazing one time date that was just exceptional because she was such a babe in the woods. Unbelievable that I could share this experience.

Sue London. Black Italian mix. Sharp as a tack legal student. And hot to boot. Great times in London and the Mediterranean.

Shayla Home girl USA. Been at it almost two years now. I pay her apt and she acts as my GF. Simple as that.

These are just a few of the amazing experiences I've had. And others here have experienced likewise.

So you are 100% right. It's 99.99% BS. And. 01% pure gold. Wouldn't trade it for anything.

[DramaFree11]

It makes plenty of sense, but with my experience using Seeking, nearly all the girls I communicated with on there were some of the most arrogant cum dumpsters I have ever come across. I can't think of another setting where I've found more insolent idiots as that, anywhere from the office at work, to the cashier at the grocery store, I don't think I've ever seen a group of women as bad as I encountered from Seeking.

My experience is totally different. I am having the best time of my life. I am CDMX at this moment having a drink waiting for a beautiful woman. What could be better.

[VanessasClient]

P411 and Seeking are just two completely different experiences with different types of girls and different expectations. For those not familiar, P411 is a registration service for pros and John's. They verify your ID and employment and then you have access to browse hookers in any city. They claim to not retain your personal information but who knows. I used it successfully for a few years in the US before finding Seeking. But it's 100% pros and hourly rates.

Seeking is NOT a hooker registration service. It's more like online date matching service but with money exchanged. In other words, you can't just point and click and pay (at least in US where I assume you are from). I consider it like an online pickup bar. You have to play the game and have some game to have success. The best girls imo are not full on pros and won't just go with anyone for $$ (Tho there are plenty of pros also). It's a dance and you have to play it that way.

Unfortunately it is also prone to scamming. Any girl that asks for money before a meetup or to meetup platonically should be ignored / blocked. And be prepared if you get into a conversation and land a girl to treat it more like a date. Yes some girls will just go to the room and fuck. But the fun part for me is treating it like a true date with dinner or drinks and natural progression to the room. (And yes, they can decline to go to the room with you but you are only out your time and dinner; never pay them anything for this sex fail). At first you might have a moderate fail percentage but you will get better and better.

Of course the upside to Seeking is not only the real world experience but also it is NOT hourly. A typical date might be 3-4 hours and $500 USD if you do the homework and find the right girl. I've also had girls stay overnight for that same amount or less - it's up to them - very non hooker like.

So they are two very different things. P411 enables safe booking of a hooker in the USA which is no small feat. Seeking enables hooking up with a non or semi pro on a "real life date scenario" with a flat fee on the backend of the date if it ends with sex. Make sense?

It makes plenty of sense, but with my experience using Seeking, nearly all the girls I communicated with on there were some of the most arrogant cum dumpsters I have ever come across. I can't think of another setting where I've found more insolent idiots as that, anywhere from the office at work, to the cashier at the grocery store, I don't think I've ever seen a group of women as bad as I encountered from Seeking.

[Gfefan]

No one. Not even my best friend knows about my secret life.

I am not worried about them knowing and judging me. They can do what they want. And I can do what I want.

But yes, I have a loving wife and do not want to mess that up. So, secrets die with me and my ISG brethren here.

Even my closest friends don't get the scoop.

As Benjamin Franklin said, two people can keep it secret as long as one of them is dead.

[Steve 9696]

I see this forum is very active, but for me Seeking is one of the worst experiences I've ever had in this industry. The subscription fee for a month is about the same price as a P411 subscription for a year. Plus I found most of the girls to be extremely obnoxious, and demanding money before even communicating. Maybe I was doing things wrong.

P411 and Seeking are just two completely different experiences with different types of girls and different expectations. For those not familiar, P411 is a registration service for pros and John's. They verify your ID and employment and then you have access to browse hookers in any city. They claim to not retain your personal information but who knows. I used it successfully for a few years in the US before finding Seeking. But it's 100% pros and hourly rates.

Seeking is NOT a hooker registration service. It's more like online date matching service but with money exchanged. In other words, you can't just point and click and pay (at least in US where I assume you are from). I consider it like an online pickup bar. You have to play the game and have some game to have success. The best girls imo are not full on pros and won't just go with anyone for $$ (Tho there are plenty of pros also). It's a dance and you have to play it that way.

Unfortunately it is also prone to scamming. Any girl that asks for money before a meetup or to meetup platonically should be ignored / blocked. And be prepared if you get into a conversation and land a girl to treat it more like a date. Yes some girls will just go to the room and fuck. But the fun part for me is treating it like a true date with dinner or drinks and natural progression to the room. (And yes, they can decline to go to the room with you but you are only out your time and dinner; never pay them anything for this sex fail). At first you might have a moderate fail percentage but you will get better and better.

Of course the upside to Seeking is not only the real world experience but also it is NOT hourly. A typical date might be 3-4 hours and $500 USD if you do the homework and find the right girl. I've also had girls stay overnight for that same amount or less - it's up to them - very non hooker like.

So they are two very different things. P411 enables safe booking of a hooker in the USA which is no small feat. Seeking enables hooking up with a non or semi pro on a "real life date scenario" with a flat fee on the backend of the date if it ends with sex. Make sense?

[FilthyBeaver]

To quote Han Solo, "Women always find out the truth, always. " I'll leave it there.

I think you are being too paranoid. We all post here anonymously, no real names given. You can always change the dates a little bit, or don't specify the dates at all. It would be pretty much impossible for your family or acquaintances to connect the dots and figure out it was you. There will be no direct evidence pointing at you. Also, chances are they are not even on ISG or never heard of it. I'm not encouraging you to post anything at all if you are too concerned. But posting at a later date doesn't make much sense.

[The Cane]

But posting at a later date doesn't make much sense.

I've done that a lot over the years actually. You just never know who's reading. You can't be too careful if you ask me. People do dumb things and will drag you down into their shit just by association. So, I'm not quick to befriend anybody who I meet from mongerdom either. I had a wing man one time and the guy turned out to be a drunk and an overall disaster. Never again! I haven't trusted anybody from my "regular" life with this, and again I'm not going to be changing that in the foreseeable future.

[MiamiBoy1]

I LOVE talking about my exploits. Like everyone there are tiers of people in my life, parents, other family, friends, acquaintances, etc. I play poker with a group of guys that I only know through a friend. I'm the youngest guy at the table by 14 yrs or so. None of these people knows anybody else in my life except for my friend who introduced me to them. I can't wait to tell them what I'm up to when we play. Some of them think I'm full of shit and frankly that's most of the fun. Let them think what they want. The point is I'm happy, they all wish they could do what I'm doing and either don't want to admit it, are afraid to, or are no longer able to!

I think you are being too paranoid. We all post here anonymously, no real names given. You can always change the dates a little bit, or don't specify the dates at all. It would be pretty much impossible for your family or acquaintances to connect the dots and figure out it was you. There will be no direct evidence pointing at you. Also, chances are they are not even on ISG or never heard of it. I'm not encouraging you to post anything at all if you are too concerned. But posting at a later date doesn't make much sense.

[VanessasClient]

I see this forum is very active, but for me Seeking is one of the worst experiences I've ever had in this industry. The subscription fee for a month is about the same price as a P411 subscription for a year. Plus I found most of the girls to be extremely obnoxious, and demanding money before even communicating. Maybe I was doing things wrong.

[Steve 9696]

Seems like the general wisdom is tell no one. And I went that way for a while. But it's a bit lonely and I hate lying to my friends if I don't have to. Seems to me like most guys are not at all going to spill the beans. Envious maybe but not going to fuck you over. I used to think what if a guy sees me in FKK like my bosses boss or something. Well duh he is there too so nuclear weapons on both sides. And I used to be more paranoid about being seen with a girl by a colleague. Female colleagues are def a concern so I remain discrete. But I think most male colleagues would be like go for it man!

Over the years I have carefully disclosed to select individuals. So far only one has been judgey and doesn't want to hear about it. Others are anxious to hear my latest adventures. Like seriously asking me to tell them all th latest details. Here's who knows and we either can party together or they are at least enthusiastic to hear and read my adventures.

Friends/colleagues who know and disapprove. 1.

Friends/colleagues who know but dont partake and want to hear every detail. 2.

Friends/Colleagues who are also in the girls club for 5+ years. 2.

Friends/Colleagues who are in the girls club for less than 5 years. 2.

You may be very surprised how many of your friends or colleagues are in the club. I was stunned. And it is sooooo much more fun when they are inside the tent. Imo.

[The Cane]

So yeah, it is better to stay quiet and have your fun secretly and / or in another country for your sake and theirs because so many people cannot handle the truth.

I've been on some other sex sites over the years that aren't mongering sites. There are times when I have related accounts of some of my sexual exploits abroad, and there's always some ignorant guy who thinks I'm lying (and probably several more silent doubters too). It's always about stuff that nobody on a site like this with even just a little experience would question because the same or similar has happened to them, or they know of somebody who it happened to, or they're confident they could do the same if they wanted to, etc. My retort when it's all said and done? Do you want it to happen to you? Then the first thing you have to do? Believe!

But a part of the fun for me when I'm doubted is letting them believe what they want to because I know the "dirty truth", and I know I've had the kind of sexual adventures that most men can only dream about. I remember being on one site and a guy talking about how he'd had anal sex 5 times in his middle-aged life and going on and on about it like that was a "lot" and how anal is such a "rare" treat in life. I was sitting there looking at the screen and shaking my head and literally laughing out loud! Guys like that leave me quite certain that I've fucked more attractive women in the ass than most men will get even pussy. And I'm taking about over the course of their entire lifetimes!

Men. Set yourself free. Save some money. Get a passport. Do some research. Travel abroad. Fuck hot girls in their butt holes (a truly really, really, really, really lot of them so many you don't know how many anymore)! And where ever else you want to fuck them. All of you here? You know! You know. The best kept secret is one known only to one (and to your anonymous monger brethren). Over and out!

[AmericanPi]

That was a very good read. Well written too.

Let me suggest another reason for silence.

Selfishness. I want it all. A happy enough wife. A stable home. Kids that like me.

And oh yeah. I want to get laid by girls less than half my age on the regular.

Just my own selfishness.

I think you might also have a different reason for not talking. Thing about shame is I kind of came out and told a lot of people about my mongering life. It was weird. Once I felt no shame in doing so, it was like people want others to be happy and if you are happy, then they are happy with one exception.

It is like if you are fucking hot women, guys have to make up an excuse as to why they are not. I was loyal to my wife. I am a Christian. Blah, blah, blah. I was like, "These women were hookers, and this really is not a competition. ".

Thing is I met a great woman off seeking and am committed to her and people see us and how happy they are and now I am like having to explain that finding a woman like my current one was 20 years in the making. The flip side to that was finding one woman to commit to was harder than having a harem of sugar babes, and I was almost as happy with that. It is just that people did not get to see my happiness with the harem.

[FilthyBeaver]

I LOVE talking about my exploits. Like everyone there are tiers of people in my life, parents, other family, friends, acquaintances, etc. I play poker with a group of guys that I only know through a friend. I'm the youngest guy at the table by 14 yrs or so. None of these people knows anybody else in my life except for my friend who introduced me to them. I can't wait to tell them what I'm up to when we play. Some of them think I'm full of shit and frankly that's most of the fun. Let them think what they want. The point is I'm happy, they all wish they could do what I'm doing and either don't want to admit it, are afraid to, or are no longer able to!

I think you might also have a different reason for not talking. Thing about shame is I kind of came out and told a lot of people about my mongering life. It was weird. Once I felt no shame in doing so, it was like people want others to be happy and if you are happy, then they are happy with one exception.

It is like if you are fucking hot women, guys have to make up an excuse as to why they are not. I was loyal to my wife. I am a Christian. Blah, blah, blah. I was like, "These women were hookers, and this really is not a competition. ".

Thing is I met a great woman off seeking and am committed to her and people see us and how happy they are and now I am like having to explain that finding a woman like my current one was 20 years in the making. The flip side to that was finding one woman to commit to was harder than having a harem of sugar babes, and I was almost as happy with that. It is just that people did not get to see my happiness with the harem.

So now people want what I have and I am like, "Who the fuck doesn't? But that is really hard. Finding one women to meet all your sexual needs is tough and having a quality harem is a lot more doable. I never got really hurt breaking it off with a SB. It got you the sex and companionship with a lot less drama.

[Elvis 2008]

Who know me but don't know this side of me. Last thing I need is for them to piece together all my posts against my vacation calendar and I've got lots of splaining to do Lucy. Fortunately I don't have wife problems anymore but family would be very embarrassing and uncomfortable without all the crying and throwing shit.

I think you might also have a different reason for not talking. Thing about shame is I kind of came out and told a lot of people about my mongering life. It was weird. Once I felt no shame in doing so, it was like people want others to be happy and if you are happy, then they are happy with one exception.

It is like if you are fucking hot women, guys have to make up an excuse as to why they are not. I was loyal to my wife. I am a Christian. Blah, blah, blah. I was like, "These women were hookers, and this really is not a competition. ".

Thing is I met a great woman off seeking and am committed to her and people see us and how happy they are and now I am like having to explain that finding a woman like my current one was 20 years in the making. The flip side to that was finding one woman to commit to was harder than having a harem of sugar babes, and I was almost as happy with that. It is just that people did not get to see my happiness with the harem.

So now people want what I have and I am like, "Who the fuck doesn't? But that is really hard. Finding one women to meet all your sexual needs is tough and having a quality harem is a lot more doable. I never got really hurt breaking it off with a SB. It got you the sex and companionship with a lot less drama.

Still, there is so much sexual misery out there that if you tell other men you are having a ton of fun, they may leave their wives and kids. I know that I was. I was stuck in a situation where I was taking care of a wife who was a fucking * who got off on putting me down. A guy wrote a book called a World without Men, and his point is that it is man's sex drive that propels society, and this constant catering to women and putting men down is creating loads of incels that will cause the demise of society. A big reason I got to where I was was pursuit of pussy.

So Thanksgiving rolls around, and I let the kids in the family play with my tablet and one game was Plants versus Zombies and there was a plant shooting peas, and I was asked, "Do you have any games where there is no shooting? And I just shook my head. I played with toy guns when I was young. It was fun. It was normal. Everyone did it, and we did not shoot up schools because we were not mentally ill.

One young male member of the family came out and said he was trans, and I do not think he is. I think he said that as an excuse as to why he is not getting laid. I almost want to volunteer to take the poor kid to Tijuana and the Hong Kong Club and see what happens when he get laid.

Of course, my Colombian gal and her daughter played the game and loved it. Thing is they know their fellow classmates and their parents, and that is why they are not terrified of a school shooting.

But I did not want to know the parents in my kid's school, and I did not want to in hopes of avoiding judgement. I think wanting to play with toy guns and fuck hot women is normal and did not want to debate the subject. So yeah, it is better to stay quiet and have your fun secretly and / or in another country for your sake and theirs because so many people cannot handle the truth: it is normal to want a great sex life.