Seeking Arrangements

[DramaFree11]

Steve, the issue with dinner for me was getting stuck with a woman whose pics and attitude I did not like. I can tell within 5 minutes if I am interested or not. If I am not, I want to bail. Maybe you screened better than I did, but I thought a quick coffee was the way to go. In the USA, it was always sex on the second meet save for once or twice. Abroad, it was usually same day.

There were many times I met the woman and was just not interested in her at all.

I always meet them in the Bar of a decent restaurant, for drinks and appetizers. This gives you options, you can stay at the bar, go have dinner if she is hotter in person, or end the date quickly, if there is no chemistry or fake pictures.

[Elvis 2008]

Quite often, an SB will take a picture of us together, especially when we are dressed up or out on the town having a fun time. You guys think there's any downsides to her having a picture of us together? Some of the pictures give away that we are cozy together. Keep in mind that I try to stay anonymous as much as possible. Thanks for your thoughts.

If things go south with SB, and you have exposure, yes.

Don't want to scare you but, for example, I am married and happily so. Don't want an SB, if and when she is miffed with me, ruin my personal life with evidence. Some smart SB's might sfill find some but why leave something known on the table?!

P. S: I am super happy in my mariage and don't want to lose it. Sex shucks though. I am struggling to answer whether I got in to SA because of poor sex at home or SA got me to realize sex is poor at home. Shucks.

MW, how many photos do you think there are of the two of you together otherwise? Hotel cameras? Traffic cams? You can ping locations on your cell phone and see she is with you. So the only issue is the SB has the photo.

GFE Fan shares similar concerns that I did, but I have been through this. First off, I think every wife knows if a guy is messing around. They just shut it out of their mind. Really, the wife should only get concerned if you catch feelings. Women know how men are. The main thing is you just do not throw your infidelity in her face IMO.

I do not know why men are worried about blackmail but not worried about the woman stealing. They are both illegal, and a woman who tried to extort money from basketball coach Rick Pitino was put away in federal lockup for 7 years: https://bleacherreport.com/articles/...oach-after-sex.

The way a woman could legally extort money out of you IMO is via pregnancy but a pic makes no difference there. Even with that though, there are so many guys throwing money at the hotties in the USA that if things did not work out, the woman could find another guy easily especially if the woman was hot.

So what happens if somehow the wife gets the pic? You lie about it. When I was caught by my ex, I could have lied again and nothing would have happened, but I was tired of lying, and I did not deny it. Furthermore, I said I have more than one SB and the SBs make me happy and you do not. I think I too would have said at some point during this time when I was cheating, I was happily married too. Now that I am out of my marriage, and it is just my opinion, but any guy who says they are "happily married" while seeing other women really isn't.

So add it all up. Blackmail is very unlikely. The wife probably already knows, but the supposed worst, your wife finding out and wanting to leave you in my case was not the worst that happened. Yeah, divorce sucked, and you do not want to go there, but when it ends, then you really get to see how your marriage was, and in my case, ending the marriage was a huge relief. The stress of hiding, the unhappiness, the lack of freedom were weighing me down where more than I though. Guys are constantly saying they can handle the stress, but it wears on you.

And you know what they say about women's quality of life going way downhill after divorce? Yeah, that was way true with my ex.

So really outside of any hurt feelings, I do not see much downside to being in a pic with your SB then. Just make sure she does not put it up on social media.

[Elvis 2008]

I'the def avoid the coffee dates. My experience is it doesn't work well maybe it did for some guys or in the past but not for me. Allows a girl to get in her head. How much does she like you. Is it really worth it. You know his fingernails were a little dirty. Whatever. Rather with dinner and drinks you are both a little drunk. Laughing and having fun and it naturally flows to the bedroom. Neither one is considering the nuances of the relationship or the state of their fingernails. Dinner. Drinks. Bedroom. That's the formula IMO.

Steve, the issue with dinner for me was getting stuck with a woman whose pics and attitude I did not like. I can tell within 5 minutes if I am interested or not. If I am not, I want to bail. Maybe you screened better than I did, but I thought a quick coffee was the way to go. In the USA, it was always sex on the second meet save for once or twice. Abroad, it was usually same day.

There were many times I met the woman and was just not interested in her at all.

[Gfefan]

If things go south with SB, and you have exposure, yes.

Don't want to scare you but, for example, I am married and happily so. Don't want an SB, if and when she is miffed with me, ruin my personal life with evidence. Some smart SB's might sfill find some but why leave something known on the table?!

P. S: I am super happy in my mariage and don't want to lose it. Sex shucks though. I am struggling to answer whether I got in to SA because of poor sex at home or SA got me to realize sex is poor at home. Shucks.

Quite often, an SB will take a picture of us together, especially when we are dressed up or out on the town having a fun time. You guys think there's any downsides to her having a picture of us together? Some of the pictures give away that we are cozy together. Keep in mind that I try to stay anonymous as much as possible. Thanks for your thoughts.

[Steve 9696]

Have any of you guys ever met downright 100% pros on Seeking?

As shroomer said picking the pros out early is easy. Early in my career I did proceed with one pro. She was an hour late and in bed said she was too tired to cowgirl. LOL. Boo. But that's 1/50 and I knew going in. Proper screening will avoid it.

P.S. Straight to room strangely is not always a tell. I've had three straight-to-room girls who were semi pros if pro at all. They were worried about being seen on the town by their friends of whatever. Seemed absolutely legit. Nice girls. In all cases we talked for over an hour over wine in the room before getting down.

Funny aside, one of these girls had her 23rd birthday in my room! You might think she was BSing but she took the Happy Birthday call from her mom about two hours into our wine laden conversation. While she was distracted talking to her mom I took off her spike fuck-me boots and it was on when she got off the phone! LOL. Can't make this shit up!

[LshRoomer]

Have any of you guys ever met downright 100% pros on Seeking?

I've come across them, but never engaged. When you write your regular Hello, and they respond with a number. LOL. It can't be more obvious.

Also, during conversation you can tell by how they attempt to limit their losses or they want to come directly to your hotel or to their place, etc. The more professional the SB, the more I'm turned off.

02.

[DramaFree11]

Agreed. Almost identical to my normal formula. Drinks and / or dinner, more drinks, shisha, back to the spot.

In my current experiment, I was looking for someone to link up with during the day, so my normal flow was quite interrupted and coffee dates and brunches become drinks / dinner daytime equivalent. I much prefer the relaxed environment of a hookah lounge or chill bar and the ambiance that the night time brings with it. Surprisingly, there are quite a few responses for daytime availability, but my effort has severely decreased in regards to the daytime experiment. On the flip side, my focus is totally renewed with new prospects in Lisbon and Madrid (1st time in Portugal). Put out some feelers and already the responses have been quite favorable. Love the rollercoaster..

Totally agree, but in Mexico, lunch dates are fine. 9 out 10 times the girl are planning on having sex, if there is any chemistry at all. In America lunch dates are big waste of time, normally. Not to mention my phone is blowing up from work. In the evening I can turn the phone off and relax.

[Turgid]

Have any of you guys ever met downright 100% pros on Seeking?

[LshRoomer]

I'the def avoid the coffee dates. My experience is it doesn't work well maybe it did for some guys or in the past but not for me. Allows a girl to get in her head. How much does she like you. Is it really worth it. You know his fingernails were a little dirty. Whatever. Rather with dinner and drinks you are both a little drunk. Laughing and having fun and it naturally flows to the bedroom. Neither one is considering the nuances of the relationship or the state of their fingernails. Dinner. Drinks. Bedroom. That's the formula IMO.

Agreed. Almost identical to my normal formula. Drinks and / or dinner, more drinks, shisha, back to the spot.

In my current experiment, I was looking for someone to link up with during the day, so my normal flow was quite interrupted and coffee dates and brunches become drinks / dinner daytime equivalent. I much prefer the relaxed environment of a hookah lounge or chill bar and the ambiance that the night time brings with it. Surprisingly, there are quite a few responses for daytime availability, but my effort has severely decreased in regards to the daytime experiment. On the flip side, my focus is totally renewed with new prospects in Lisbon and Madrid (1st time in Portugal). Put out some feelers and already the responses have been quite favorable. Love the rollercoaster.

02.

[Steve 9696]

This was an experience unlike any that I've had with SA and it's wasn't too surprising. There were definitely red flags that I probably ignored for the sake of exploration, thinking that maybe we could strike up a deal and it would be a new mountain to climb in my SB experience pool. LOL. Yeah. Failed experiment. 29 is the oldest that I've ever dealt with, with the average range being 20-24. Already adjusted my age filter in SA. Hahaha. The older girls are a bit more work and I'm not willing to output more effort just because. Note to self: experiment unsuccessful, continue to use what works.

The positive part of SA far outweighs the negative, so for me, it's lessons learned and time to prep for Spain / Portugal. Super excited to check out Lisbon, never been, but the SA scene already looks similar to Spain. Fingers crossed.

I still have some conversations going, so we'll see if any yield fruit. I had a coffee date with Francesca last week and she kinda went silent for a few days. I assumed she didn't feel the right vibe in person, but then she start writing more conversation worthy texts starting yesterday and this morning. Gymnast and definitely bangable, but a bit quirky. We'll see what happens.

02.

I'the def avoid the coffee dates. My experience is it doesn't work well — maybe it did for some guys or in the past but not for me. Allows a girl to get in her head. How much does she like you. Is it really worth it. You know his fingernails were a little dirty. Whatever. Rather with dinner and drinks you are both a little drunk. Laughing and having fun and it naturally flows to the bedroom. Neither one is considering the nuances of the relationship or the state of their fingernails. Dinner. Drinks. Bedroom. That's the formula IMO.

[Steve 9696]

Your new nickname is the, "Coach" Thanks for all the great reports and advice. I am back in MTY for another wild weekend. The trip is off to a great start, minus all the rain.

Thanks. The guy I am coaching put me in his phone as "pussy slayer". Haha. I'll answer to either one. 😂.

[Midwestern]

Quite often, an SB will take a picture of us together, especially when we are dressed up or out on the town having a fun time. You guys think there's any downsides to her having a picture of us together? Some of the pictures give away that we are cozy together. Keep in mind that I try to stay anonymous as much as possible. Thanks for your thoughts.

[LshRoomer]

Sorry to hear man. Yeah US is a lot of work. No doubt they are out there if you are willing to put in the work but not easy. Just wanted to message because you talked about Spain and Portugal. I just returned from there and OMG both places are an SA paradise! Haven't had a chance to report yet but think under 23, genuine, hot and willing. So much fun and true essence of what SA is. I got a tad too lucky with no gifts exchanged with a couple of them. Will report soon hopefully. Enjoy there. I can't wait to go back.

This was an experience unlike any that I've had with SA and it's wasn't too surprising. There were definitely red flags that I probably ignored for the sake of exploration, thinking that maybe we could strike up a deal and it would be a new mountain to climb in my SB experience pool. LOL. Yeah. Failed experiment. 29 is the oldest that I've ever dealt with, with the average range being 20-24. Already adjusted my age filter in SA. Hahaha. The older girls are a bit more work and I'm not willing to output more effort just because. Note to self: experiment unsuccessful, continue to use what works.

The positive part of SA far outweighs the negative, so for me, it's lessons learned and time to prep for Spain / Portugal. Super excited to check out Lisbon, never been, but the SA scene already looks similar to Spain. Fingers crossed.

I still have some conversations going, so we'll see if any yield fruit. I had a coffee date with Francesca last week and she kinda went silent for a few days. I assumed she didn't feel the right vibe in person, but then she start writing more conversation worthy texts starting yesterday and this morning. Gymnast and definitely bangable, but a bit quirky. We'll see what happens.

02.

[Chola]

Home runs definitely do exist. I'm in talks with a few girls now that seem promising. This morning, I headed out to see the 29 year old single mom knowing that the story I was going to write tonight was going to be awesome and intriguing. LOL. I was wrong.
02.

Sorry to hear man. Yeah US is a lot of work. No doubt they are out there if you are willing to put in the work but not easy. Just wanted to message because you talked about Spain and Portugal. I just returned from there and OMG both places are an SA paradise! Haven't had a chance to report yet but think under 23, genuine, hot and willing. So much fun and true essence of what SA is. I got a tad too lucky with no gifts exchanged with a couple of them. Will report soon hopefully. Enjoy there. I can't wait to go back.

[DramaFree11]

So I stay in touch w another ISG member who had good luck w SA in Mexico. I've been coaching up his US game and by god with a lot of persistence he hit pay dirt in a major western US city. Scored a 19 year old who WANTED to go bareback (not negotiated ahead) and took a full load of CIM and swallow. I've seen her pics and she's legit hot and naughty. And only 400 beans. It CAN be done. With game and persistence. Good luck out there!

Your new nickname is the, "Coach" Thanks for all the great reports and advice. I am back in MTY for another wild weekend. The trip is off to a great start, minus all the rain.