Seeking Arrangements

[Steve 9696]

Steve, that's a good tip. Never thought of that. The envelope would be easiest, but most hotels don't include the note pad and envelopes anymore, so I would have to pack them LOL. Definitely not buying thank you cards haha. Slipping into their purse is probably the better option.

Uber watch out for all: Usually, I walk them down to the lobby and put them in the car. The 25 yr old paralegal didn't drive to the hotel. The other women did. So I called her an Uber, but since she was so determined to stay in bed it was pushing my schedule I didn't have time to walk her down. Just showed her the car and driver on my phone.

I got a text yesterday and she knew my real name because the Uber driver told her when verifying the pickup. He thought it was such an interesting name, dumb fuck.

So just be careful.

Maybe I am just overly into being a girl enthusiast (I hate the word hobby) but I am soooo well prepared these days. I always carry with me note cards and envelopes, Cialis and Viagra, a few thousand in maybe 6-8 different currrncies, several brand new toothbrushes and ear plugs (I snore) should a girl stay over spur of the moment. They are always so amazed and thankful when I produce a brand new toothbrush. LOL.

On Uber I have two different accounts. On my burner phone I have a Steve account. Of course it has my real credit card on the back end but has a Steve front end. And I send my girls Ubers fairly often from this account. It's great to track their arrival tho often pickup is a real hassle if they can't find each other.

[FastMdSter]

Steve, that's a good tip. Never thought of that. The envelope would be easiest, but most hotels don't include the note pad and envelopes anymore, so I would have to pack them LOL. Definitely not buying thank you cards haha. Slipping into their purse is probably the better option.

Uber watch out for all: Usually, I walk them down to the lobby and put them in the car. The 25 yr old paralegal didn't drive to the hotel. The other women did. So I called her an Uber, but since she was so determined to stay in bed it was pushing my schedule I didn't have time to walk her down. Just showed her the car and driver on my phone.

I got a text yesterday and she knew my real name because the Uber driver told her when verifying the pickup. He thought it was such an interesting name, dumb fuck.

So just be careful.

[Skepti10]

I will visit Europe for a work trip in Sep and was thinking about whether to re-new my SA membership. Have any of the guys here had any recent experiences there and can provide some advice?

I'll be in town for 1. 5 weeks which frankly may not be enough time, but I loved my SA time when I was in Australia & New Zealand (in 2020) and hope to replicate the experiences.

If you've seen my Barcelona post my preferences are 18-22 years old white girls who are petite / flat stomach. What sort of prices should I expect to pay for a meet-up with a few drinks at a bar & then back to the room for a few hours?

Will 350 EUR be reasonable for Paris? How about 250 EUR for Barcelona? Keep in mind I prefer the younger girls and have little interest in 26+ and zero interest in 30+.

For information in Sydney 2020 I paid 400 AUD ( 270 EUR) for white girls & 300 AUD ( 200 EUR) for Asians (with the exception of 1 honest to god 22 year old submissive Japanese nurse, who I spoiled beyond belief). In Auckland that same year I paid 400-600 ( 245 EUR to 370 EUR) NZD for white girls & 300 NZD ( 180 EUR) for Asians.

[Steve 9696]

Thanks FstMaster for the great report. I just love to read the true life stories on here (and share same). I def think you had a pretty unique situation with these girls and their jobs. I don't know any girl I've been with that would turn down cash even if I look like Brad Pitt. They all seem to be suffering financially these days.

That said — is cash in hand the right approach with an SA girl? It seems to cheapen the interaction and make her feel bad perhaps? I always write out a little note card and have the cash inside it in an envelope. I leave it in plain sight but usually tucked under the corner of the ice bucket or something.

One of three things happens then depending on timing or opportunity. With experienced girls it just disappears. Less experienced I may sneak it into her purse while she's cleaning up. Or last resort give her the envelope. Anyhow that is how I play it.

Did have a funny experience with Sylvia who is brand new to the game. After two days together I put the envelope quite in plain sight in her large purse. At some point the following day she was inquiring about allowance and I said I'the already put it in her purse and she was like what? We dug around and eventually found it on the bottom and had a good laugh. But in general I like disconnecting the $$ from the sex. Makes the girl feel less transactional.

[DramaFree11]

Your experiences kept getting better and better. As always, I enjoy your report and great info on Vancouver. Expect fake pics for Vancouver, Checked. More white collar SBs, Checked. Getting "lucky" not just once but twice on a single trip, Wow! Frankly, I can get to learn a thing or two here, LOL.

I suspect Seattle and Portland could be more challenging environment. Looking forward to your next report.

Super cool, I would have never guessed SA would be good in Vancouver. I was raised in Ferndale, WA and was in Canada 2-3 days week playing hockey. My mom is Canadian. We use to party in Canada when I was in High School, great times, at that time you only had to be 18 to drink and we all had fake ideas.

I left Washington, St, when I wax 18 and have not looked back, my parents are still in Ferndale. I love Ferndale for a couple of days, but a very long trip from Texas.

Thanks again, for the post. I might need to try SA out in Canada when I am visiting my parents, but there would be a lot of questions, why I am going to Canada.

[Elvis 2008]

Lately, I have not been bringing up donation unless they ask, it seems to be working in my favor. If they asked,

She stayed the whole night and we ordered breakfast. I had to work, otherwise would have spent the day with her.

I offered her 800 CAD, she didn't know how much because I just pulled what was in my wallet and she got really offended. I was confused, because I knew she didn't know how much it was. But, she said she is not an escort. Even more confused now.

She told me to keep it. It was an amazing time and would like to see where this goes. So was a win.


Then I pulled the same 800 CAD out of my wallet from the night before and went to give it to her. She said no. She can't remember having sex and a connection that good. Another win. Not sure how much more I want to test my luck.

Vancouver is a great destination.

Great report! It is funny I was arguing with guys here about whether to include a dollar amount in the original offer. They said you should. I said you should not mention it until they do. A few times in Colombia, I found myself in bed with a girl and the amount was not even mentioned.

And my current girl did a similar thing as your girls did. When I offered her money, she was like, "What is that for?

And yeah, there are some stunning women and Vancouver. I never got why, but they are there.

I do not think you will get away with not mentioning $ in the USA. That is not a knock on you but American women.

It is funny how many guys think ALL the women on seeking are just WGs. Sure, some maybe even most are, but there are women just interested in meeting the right kind of guy.

Looking forward to your next report.

[Ggekko2009]

So just returned from Montreal and Vancouver.

My first trip to Vancouver. The forum here was useless as was perb. So I did the risky thing, just went with SA. As I always do I identify my targets about 10- 14 days out and message them. Got a lot of responses. There is a difference between Vancouver women and Montreal. More career women, way less tattoos, and seem to be looking for the whole experience- dinner and sex, LOL. You have a decent amount of pros on Vancouver SA, which I relegated to back ups.

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A lot more women in Vancouver use fake pics, because they have real jobs, my encounters- Realtor, Paralegal, Finance Person at auto dealer.

They all sent me their real pics via text and I had numerous Video calls.

I stayed at the Fairmont Pacific Rim which is great location, near all the bars / clubs, has its own big bars, with large lobby and a good restaurant.

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Vancouver is a great destination.

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Next stop Seattle and Portland.

Be well.

Your experiences kept getting better and better. As always, I enjoy your report and great info on Vancouver. Expect fake pics for Vancouver, Checked. More white collar SBs, Checked. Getting "lucky" not just once but twice on a single trip, Wow! Frankly, I can get to learn a thing or two here, LOL.

I suspect Seattle and Portland could be more challenging environment. Looking forward to your next report.

[FastMdSter]

So just returned from Montreal and Vancouver.

My first trip to Vancouver. The forum here was useless as was perb. So I did the risky thing, just went with SA. As I always do I identify my targets about 10- 14 days out and message them. Got a lot of responses. There is a difference between Vancouver women and Montreal. More career women, way less tattoos, and seem to be looking for the whole experience- dinner and sex, LOL. You have a decent amount of pros on Vancouver SA, which I relegated to back ups.

I am getting a lot better at narrowing down who I think will be a good match via text / video etc. A lot more women in Vancouver use fake pics, because they have real jobs, my encounters- Realtor, Paralegal, Finance Person at auto dealer.

They all sent me their real pics via text and I had numerous Video calls.

I stayed at the Fairmont Pacific Rim which is great location, near all the bars / clubs, has its own big bars, with large lobby and a good restaurant.

Lately, I have not been bringing up donation unless they ask, it seems to be working in my favor. If they asked, I offered 500 CAD any they all had no problem with that. However, one pro wanted social time at 250, plus sex at 600. Quickly blocked her, and she then she kept blowing up my phone, she is a dancer at penthouse there.

The paralegal was 25-a solid 7 and great fuck. If you follow my reports- I'm a PSE guy, so raw everything is what I'm after and hardcore type sex. 500, and she stayed the whole night and I had trouble making her leave. Wanted to hang out the whole day.

But my schedule was tight so booted her.

Realtor- solid 9. 5, smart, funny we hit if off. 27 yrs old. Great dinner, conversations, a true vibe. We spent about 4-5 hrs between dinner and drinking. Back in the room, she was amazing. She was only on SA for a week. She said the real estate market has slowed down, guys in Vancouver are cheap, and she wanted something better, LOL.

She stayed the whole night and we ordered breakfast. I had to work, otherwise would have spent the day with her.

I offered her 800 CAD, she didn't know how much because I just pulled what was in my wallet and she got really offended. I was confused, because I knew she didn't know how much it was. But, she said she is not an escort. Even more confused now.

She told me to keep it. It was an amazing time and would like to see where this goes. So was a win.

Last one- 30 yr Finance mgr at auto dealer, another solid 9. 5, sexy as fuck, smart and we had been having very flirtatious video calls leading up to the meeting.

But, she was the one I thought would flake. It was almost too good to be true. Night of our meeting she asks me to push out the reservations 30 minutes, because her hair dryer broke. 5 mins before reservation she tells me she is at least 20 mins away. 30 mins past reservation I asked her where is she? I keep calling the Botanist (hotel restaurant and pushing the time).

Then I get a text that she is finally in the lobby. She looked at stunning. Dinner, drinks, and conversation great. Back in the room after the bar. I ordered another bottle of wine. We talk for 2 more hours and finally ask are we going to fuck, otherwise I'm going to bed. She said she was ready in the lobby, LOL.

Amazing night, did everything I wanted. Stayed til 6 am, because car was picking me up at 6:30. She wanted to drive me to the airport. Then I pulled the same 800 CAD out of my wallet from the night before and went to give it to her. She said no. She can't remember having sex and a connection that good. Another win. Not sure how much more I want to test my luck.

Vancouver is a great destination.

Montreal- saw the 20 yr from last trip, who is just a nympho. I believe she really likes me, because when I was looking at other women, she would quickly say let's go fuck. Great girl-500 CAD.

Next stop Seattle and Portland.

Be well.

[FilthyBeaver]

I like dates and dinners with my girls. Whenever I catch someone looking at us, I rub the side of my eye with my middle finger when I'm sure they're looking. The looks stop, the guy wishes he was me and the woman thinks I'm a pig with a working girl. Problem solved.

Got to say I love the realness of my current engagement with Shayla. Conversation is effortless and the sex is to die for. But I really love being treated as her boyfriend not her daddy. We were chatting recently at dinner and she was recounting some story with her friends and telling them about her boyfriend like I was a guy same age as her. It just feels great to have that ego stroke. Not to mention she looked killer in her crop top, booty shorts, and heels. I'd say I wonder what the older couples at the restaurant think of us but that would be a lie. I totally don't give a fuck!

[DramaFree11]

Again, you are comparing apples to oranges. Colombians in CDMX and USA are not the same as Colombians in Colombia. Speaking of mexican girls vs colombian girls, I think most of us would agree that an average Colombian is hotter than average Mexican. Top Colombian girls and top Mexican girls are probably on the same level in terms of attractiveness, however in Colombia the sheer quantity of top girls is bigger. CDMX girls are much more diverse compared to Bogota or Medellin, which is a good thing if you like them in different shapes and sizes, but if you see a hot girl on the street in CDMX, most likely she is not Mexican, but Colombian, European, etc. - so this comparison is not quite fair.

DF, you have much more experience in Mexico, but I'm more experienced in Colombia because I spend here the majority of my time off outside of USA. I really don't think Mexicans are in any way superior to Colombians. And speaking of attitude or performance in bed, both nationalities could be good or bad, that depends on each girl's personality and chemistry between the two. My experience with Seeking in MDE / BOG has always been a rollercoaster. A mix of awesome, okay and shitty dates, while in CDMX it has been steady good, but not exceptional. My best dates in Colombia beat my best dates in CDMX, that's for sure. Also, everyone would agree that average rates are higher in CDMX, and the city in general, is considerably more expensive than BOG / MDE. I noticed it had been said many times here that Mexican girls are more fun to be with, more outgoing, etc. I disagree, again, it depends on personality and chemistry. Both nationalities love to go out, eat, drink, dance, travel (who doesn't? I have had boring and super fun dates in both countries.

Great post, but there are lots of super hot Mexican running around CDMX. I am sure I would like Bogota better then MDE, but no need to change I am killing it in CDMX.

[MiamiBoy1]

DF did not use seeking when he was in Colombia and for the guys here that is how I recommend they do Colombia.

This makes a lot of sense now. His unpleasant experience is probably limited to hardcore pros / working girls, therefore, the hate.

[MiamiBoy1]

Totally disagree, Colombian Girls and MDE both are totally over rated. I can not speak about other cites, but I have met lots of Colombian in Mexico and the states, way over rated. Instant block for me now. Mexican women and European girls blow them away. Probably Asia girls as well. I even like American girls better then Colombian. Sorry. MDE totally sucks. Call it what you want, trolling is fine with me.

Again, you are comparing apples to oranges. Colombians in CDMX and USA are not the same as Colombians in Colombia. Speaking of mexican girls vs colombian girls, I think most of us would agree that an average Colombian is hotter than average Mexican. Top Colombian girls and top Mexican girls are probably on the same level in terms of attractiveness, however in Colombia the sheer quantity of top girls is bigger. CDMX girls are much more diverse compared to Bogota or Medellin, which is a good thing if you like them in different shapes and sizes, but if you see a hot girl on the street in CDMX, most likely she is not Mexican, but Colombian, European, etc. - so this comparison is not quite fair.

DF, you have much more experience in Mexico, but I'm more experienced in Colombia because I spend here the majority of my time off outside of USA. I really don't think Mexicans are in any way superior to Colombians. And speaking of attitude or performance in bed, both nationalities could be good or bad, that depends on each girl's personality and chemistry between the two. My experience with Seeking in MDE / BOG has always been a rollercoaster. A mix of awesome, okay and shitty dates, while in CDMX it has been steady good, but not exceptional. My best dates in Colombia beat my best dates in CDMX, that's for sure. Also, everyone would agree that average rates are higher in CDMX, and the city in general, is considerably more expensive than BOG / MDE. I noticed it had been said many times here that Mexican girls are more fun to be with, more outgoing, etc. I disagree, again, it depends on personality and chemistry. Both nationalities love to go out, eat, drink, dance, travel (who doesn't? I have had boring and super fun dates in both countries.

[DramaFree11]

I am not really into girls in Santa Fe or casas. In my view, those are not SBs at all but just pure pros. My interactions with the Colombian SBs have always been with either college students or white collar girls in Bogota. Plus as others have mentioned, I tend to stay away from those who would quote me in dollars. It's the attitude and unrealistic expectations that may come with it that I am weary of.

Finally, some good advice and an honest assessment of Colombia. Yes, there some hot girls, but it takes a lot of work, time and money. You are not going role in and hook up with a super hot girl, especially In MDE. I think the other cities are a much better option.

[DramaFree11]

I agree, the best place to meet Colombian girls is Colombia. If one wants to fuck Russians, one needs to travel to Russia. Once girls from 3rd world or developing countries cross the border and find themselves in a rich / developed country or city, they quickly become spoiled. Some switch just turns on in their brains and most will never be back to normal. I once chatted with a seeking girl when I was in Bogota about a year ago, and she said she used to study in Seattle but because of the pandemic and visa issues had to come back to Colombia. She said IT guys in Seattle paid her up to $1000 per date. She became totally spoiled. I told her we were not in Seattle, and she replied, "yeah, I understand, that sucks, this is why for you my rate is $300", I just laughed at her and obviously passed. Those lucky Colombians that ever been to the US quickly start quoting prices in USD even after they get back to Colombia.

So true. I have average Colombian girls asking for crazy numbers in CDMX. Once they tell me they are Colombian instant block now, it is just a waste of time and I am just not attracted to them at all.

I was out sick last week and was on SA way too much. I must of had 8-10 Colombian contact me. I only target CDMX, sone were pretending to be in CDMX, but most actually live in CDMX. There is so many Colombian Chicks in CDMX, crazy.

I Have found Russian girls to be a little more reasonable at first, but I do not put too much effort into Russian girls anymore, they just want travel the world, this is not the lifestyle I am looking for. It amazes me what they give up and the sacrifice they are will to make to travel.

[Ggekko2009]

Frank, given how much Colombia is posted about on ISG, I think it is refreshing to have a negative POV on it. For all the talk about Santa Fe in Bogota, the women there are for the most part very unattractive. About half I would call flat out disgusting. Medellin has the drugs and women drugging you. Conning people is a way of life. The people in Cartagena bug the shit out of tourists.

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If you want to do Colombia IMO you go after the white collar working women or college students. Bang whomever you want, but I would not try to have any type of mutualistic sugar baby type relationship with anyone other than that and even then, I would be very selective.

I am not really into girls in Santa Fe or casas. In my view, those are not SBs at all but just pure pros. My interactions with the Colombian SBs have always been with either college students or white collar girls in Bogota. Plus as others have mentioned, I tend to stay away from those who would quote me in dollars. It's the attitude and unrealistic expectations that may come with it that I am weary of.