Seeking Arrangements

[SethiatSpace]

So people who have seen my posts here know that I haven't had much success with SA.

A few weeks ago, I got my first real "success" and a VERY interesting encounter.

- Bulgaria: Two weeks before going to Bulgaria, I started messaging girls in Sofia. Not a lot of active girls. Most of them didn't read my message or just ignored it. But this time I got a few answers.

-- Girl 1: responded quickly, 22 yo, slim, fit, good looking. We joked a little bit on SA, switched to WA, and then she said she wanted 500-600 euros. Usually I try to get them back to earth but I didn't want to and I just said 400. To which she replied it wasn't enough and then never answered again.

-- Girl 2: immediately said she would be up to meet for 500 levas for a couple hours (= 250). I think that was the first girl in Europe that didn't start asking for 500-600 euros. Agreed to meet, then later said her mom was in town and she didn't want to let her alone blabla. I still wanted to see her so I asked her if she would meet on Sunday evening, to which she said yes. So I booked another hotel (I was supposed to go straight from the beach town to sofia airport) but she never replied anymore on the day. Waste of time and money.

-- Girl 3: quoted the same thing, 500 levas for a couple hours. Now this girl is 22 and she is probably the most polite girl I have met on this damn site. We chatted quite some time on Telegram and having been burned before (especially with my other encounter which I'll describe later), I asked verification video, pics, etc and she always obliged with a smile and was super fun. When I arrived in Sofia, she agreed to meet in the afternoon (she still liveswith her parents so can't sneak out at night) and indeed, she came when we agreed too and apologized for being a mere minutes late. I asked her to come with a skirt and boy did she pass with flying colors. She came with a super sexy blue dress which got us quite some looks as I told her to meet me first in the small park outside the hotel. She was a bit uncomfortable in the beginning but I got her to laugh and relax. Then we agreed I'll go to the hotel and she'll follow later. I booked the room for two but when I check in, they asked me where is the second guest. I said she will come later and they told me she would have to come checkin also. Obviously she didn't want to so she just snuck in secretly. She joined me 10 min later in my room, which I found a bit long. I was still expecting something bad to happen (again, I'll explain) but in the end, no, it was just her. She came inside, we started talking, she went to shower and I told her to put her sexy dress again. She came to sit on my legs and surprise, she didn't have any panties as her dress has an opening on the side so the string line would show. I found it quite interesting that she managed to sit on the bench pantie-less haha. There she told me she only fucks with condom and asked me if that wasn't a problem for me (fine by me). Before doing anything, I asked her to show me her passport, only her birthdate part and indeed, she just turned 22 and was not underage. I went to eat her pussy and she was super clean and smelled good from top to bottom, front to back. Nice. In general she was eager to please but I would say a little bit passive. And. She was dry all the time and didn't have any gel with her. That wasn't the most pleasant experience.

Still I liked her and asked her to come back the later day, and she was happy to. 500 in two days in Bulgaria for a 22 yo is nothing to sneeze at so she was happy and I was happy. Her english is also quite good. Now the bad part is, I wanted to see if she was looking for more than casual meetup and considering she lives with her parents, and she is more on the "good girl" side, she declined. So these encounters were more on the escort side. Sad, I really liked her.

-- Girl 4: endless chat, trying slowly to get to the point that she wants a gift if we meet. yeah... didn't see her then because there are other girls not wasting 1 week before meeting a foreigner coming into town for a few days



France: So in France, i have just terrible experiences so far. Now for some reason, I found a girl which had a nice pic who registered a few days before and messaged her. She was very polite and asked to talk on Snapchat. Which I found very odd as nobody ever asked me about Snap and I don't even have it. Still, I made one account and we started talking. She asked what I wanted, etc etc and then she said she takes I forgot how many for short term and 1k for whole night but she is more looking for a monthly allowance. I said I agree but first let's meet a few times on short term and I said I was willing to pay I think it was 300. I honestly didn't care and expected her to just refuse but she said ok. Nice.... At that time I was not in Paris so couldn't meet but we kept talking. I stayed very polite but slowly told her I was looking for a girl on the more submissive side. She said she was ok with it. I insisted that it had to be from her own will, not something forced. I also asked her repeatedly that I will ask for an ID because she said she was 19 on her profile and 20 on Snap. She was polite all the way, when I asked her height, weight, etc, asking for a video, which she sent. Finally we agreed to meet at my place on Sunday evening. The girl was good looking, though didn't look like the pics on SA. Not entirely my usual type but whatever. On her way Sunday evening, she said it's quite far but I told her that I already explain where I lived so she kept to her word. Before coming I told her if she would wear a crop top and a skirt. She said she already left and was wearing a crop top but not a skirt. i told her we'll find something more suitable next time and she sent a big smile. I told her I liked her attitude and didn't know how much was real and how much was a play and she said "You will see ". It was also getting late and she was coming from another city so I asked her if she wanted something to eat and I ordered thai noodles for her. She arrived at the same time as the food. I gave her a fake number, which is the opposite of where I live. She called me the moment I was down getting the food and I waved at her from the other side. She came to me and boy, she was much more beautiful in real life. I was suprised. So we got up to my appartment, I had put the money somewhere, not in plain sight but she could have seen it. (I'm giving all these details but you will understand why).
I tell her to go sit outside on my balcony and we do. I give her the food and we start talking. She is on one side and me on the other side, so not sitting next to each other. So until now, we were just talking, at no point did I touch her, not even when we met downstairs to welcome her and she hadn't seen any money. We speak maybe for one hour, just getting to know each other (remember I was looking for an SB, not a ONS). She asks me what I do, etc, we talk family. And then I ask her what she does and she says she wants to become part of a mountain rescuer team but for now she is a ... GENDARME. Pardon me? Gendarmes are technically part of the french military but they act on a civilian level, so like the police but they have different tasks. Bruh. I didn't even flinch at that point and she kept going like everything was normal. Now I don't remember if it was before or after she told me she was a gendarme but she straight up asked "It doesn't bother you that I'm 20 years old?". "I mumbled no, you're above 18, it's your choice". Then she stopped. We kept talking a little bit. And then I came back to this and said "Sooo... gendarme, huh? That's not very common to stumble upon a gendarme..." and she says "oh it's more common than you think but WE just don't tell YOU (plural you)". Akward silence.... I look at the balcony. Waiting... Just say to her "Hmm... What can I do for you?". She says "Nothing"... Akward silence for 5 minutes.She asks me "so should I go take a shower?" Pardon, the what? (I asked her before on Snap to get a shower after we talked on the balcony). Now at that time I was expecting the police to knock on my door at anytime. I didn't remember what was the law about prostitution and if they were looking for men trying to fuck with underage girl. I just smiled and say "it's not necessary". She went to the door, asked me again what city and the address here was and then left.
I stayed on the balcony one hour, looking to see if the cops would pull up but nope. Haven't received anything by mail either.

Now this whole situation was really bizarre.
- This girl wrote perfect french, I even complimented her on that. Most girl her age are pathetic in this regard
- The conversation was a conversation I could have had with any other girl, not a single hint she was fishing for something/someone
- She came on a Sunday night, so technically way out of working time
- She clearly mentioned she was a kind of cop, half way
- Her mentioning if it didn't bother me that she was 20 was really weird and out of the blue
- She used Snapchat, which auto-deletes the messages. Why go for this one instead of Whatsapp which keeps the messages
- She came dressed sexy, sent videos and pictures of her half naked
- I looked up the law and paying for an escort is just a minor offence, not a crime. So you get a fine and that's it

To this day I'm confused: was she really a cop? why did she mention she was one halfway? was she looking for a child predator? did she not look into me seriously as I have been nothing but courteous by text and when we met, making sure she was not underage, making sure she would give her consent, being nice to her by ordering food, ...? Was it because I hadn't given her any money yet or didn't try to touch her? Was she actually just trying to meet a SB?

The more I thought about it, the more confused I got. I still blocked her on SA but not Snapchat. But ... call me crazy. I really like her look and talking to her. God dammit. So two days later, I wrote something on Snapchat "by mistake", like I was going to a friend and I was bringing a PS5 with me. Then apologized for mistake. She didn't read the messages. ONe week later, I sent her a message asking her if she was actually looking for someone ? No answer, no read.

But I can get quite obsessed. I asked SA if they could unblock her as you can't do it once you block someone but they never replied. So I created another account on SA... with a fake profile pic and paid the full premium membership just to message her. She replied 2 days after said she would love to meet. I was happy. But I got stupid and I was on vacation so waited 4 days before replying. And she's been off the website since, so she stayed on SA something like 10 days.
Did she catch someone as a cop? DId it get dangerous? Did she just find a SB? Did she not like it?

God dammit, I would LOOOOOOVE to see her again, as crazy as it sounds. I'm contemplating creating another snap account. Or if a nice member could contact her for me, especially if from oversea...

N.B: it felt good seeing girls who just avoided me or replied in a bad manner drool over that fake profile of this nice looking white french dude and me telling them I'm definitely not interested 😂

[MiamiBoy1]

How's this for a messed up story.

I set up a date with a very very cute Latina. Secretary look to her. Glasses, ponytail, 23 years old. I'm super excited for the night.

She shows up and minor little detail. She neglected to mention she's got a prosthetic lower half of her leg. That's a kink I don't have. Little bait and switch if you ask me.

Happened to me once in CDMX. Seeking girl. Her lower arm and elbow were fucked up, probably due to an accident (just my guess, I did not want to ask her, because it might be a sensitive topic for her). Her arm looked twisted, probably broken bones did not heal properly. Her arm was shorter than the other one. Other than that, cute girl, great body. We only sessioned once due to lack of chemistry.

[AmericanPi]

How's this for a messed up story.

I set up a date with a very very cute Latina. Secretary look to her. Glasses, ponytail, 23 years old. I'm super excited for the night.

She shows up and minor little detail. She neglected to mention she's got a prosthetic lower half of her leg. That's a kink I don't have. Little bait and switch if you ask me.

Had my first SA bummer experience in a while. It wasn't all bad but def felt a bit cheap and scammy.

Really pretty girl. Very attentive over text for several weeks. Never discussed price. Met up and had a nice dinner. Didn't quite flow the way it sometimes does but after a couple drinks we had some lengthy eye contact that was nice.

Bounced to the hotel and on the way she says she's not going to my hotel. I say we can just go up and see what happens. I don't want anything she doesn't and she says ok. In the room she pushes me on the bed and straddles me. She's a bit crazy tho. She says "I'm not going to fuck you" and I say why not and I don't recall what she says. I put my hands on her tits and she pushes them away and holds my wrists down on the bed. She wants to talk money.

I say 200 and she says 400. Obviously she has the upper hand here and I relent. Ok 400. She wants it (red flag) but I am smart enough to say "I will show you I have it and put it over here" and she agrees. Anyhow long story short she says she doesn't BJ and just wants me to fuck her. Shoulda bailed but when a nine is on your bed literally asking you to fuck her while she finger fucks herself. Let's just say declining was difficult.

Without the BJ I have trouble staying hard. We do have sex in a few positions but she wants me to cum and that's not happening for a while if at all without BJ. So she calls it a day. We lie there for a bit and I say baby I can't pay 400 for that it's not fair. And she says I know.

I put $200 in her purse while she's in the bathroom (sticking out). She doesn't count it and she is on her way. Deletes our WhatsApp right after. Boo. Not a mega fail but hoped for so much more.

That's OK I am going to Pygmalion and Vive later tonight and find my dream girl. I will post it in the Madrid thread.

[DonCarlos1234]

Correct, average at best. That being said, if you plan on hooking up with anything much better than this for $100-150, you are in for a rude awakening. Possible, but highly unlikely unless you are working in CDMX full-tine or have major contacts, even then it probably will not happen. At $100 definitely not hooking up with anything hot, $150 maybe.

Jan? It's mine also. But I just booked Medellin / Bogota for 2 weeks the beginning of December. Disappointed search in Tijuana but haven't given up. I have so many SA contacts (mostly Colombians) I know what to expect there and it's all good. CDMX is in the future. Just don't know when. Elvis? You could just be an observer, right? Or what would be the problem to attend Miss Colombia pageant or festival in Barranquilla? The new girl (flight attendant school) who speaks English in Bogota was too nice to me and it felt like the real deal. Why does that scare me? LOL anyway just checking in. Maybe Tijuana next week.

[Steve 9696]

Had my first SA bummer experience in a while. It wasn't all bad but def felt a bit cheap and scammy.

Really pretty girl. Very attentive over text for several weeks. Never discussed price. Met up and had a nice dinner. Didn't quite flow the way it sometimes does but after a couple drinks we had some lengthy eye contact that was nice.

Bounced to the hotel and on the way she says she's not going to my hotel. I say we can just go up and see what happens. I don't want anything she doesn't and she says ok. In the room she pushes me on the bed and straddles me. She's a bit crazy tho. She says "I'm not going to fuck you" and I say why not and I don't recall what she says. I put my hands on her tits and she pushes them away and holds my wrists down on the bed. She wants to talk money.

I say 200 and she says 400. Obviously she has the upper hand here and I relent. Ok 400. She wants it (red flag) but I am smart enough to say "I will show you I have it and put it over here" and she agrees. Anyhow long story short she says she doesn't BJ and just wants me to fuck her. Shoulda bailed but when a nine is on your bed literally asking you to fuck her while she finger fucks herself. Let's just say declining was difficult.

Without the BJ I have trouble staying hard. We do have sex in a few positions but she wants me to cum and that's not happening for a while if at all without BJ. So she calls it a day. We lie there for a bit and I say baby I can't pay 400 for that — it's not fair. And she says I know.

I put $200 in her purse while she's in the bathroom (sticking out). She doesn't count it and she is on her way. Deletes our WhatsApp right after. Boo. Not a mega fail but hoped for so much more.

That's OK I am going to Pygmalion and Vive later tonight and find my dream girl. I will post it in the Madrid thread.

[Steve 9696]

What countries have you used this? I have been considering this because honestly ATT sucks and having to switch SIM cards it is not such a big deal because mostly I use Whatsapp / other chat apps so the number is not that critical but it would be a lot more convenient to just continue using your phone.

Only tried in UK, USA and Germany. But works all three (May have to reboot). No reason to disbelieve them. Google usually over delivers. Here's the country list.

https://fi.google.com/about/international-rates

[EuropeanDmv75]

I switched to Google Fi recently for $70/ month including unlimited data in 200 countries. And wow. How nice to not worry about no data or getting a SIM. It just magically works. Totally worth it. High recommend.

What countries have you used this? I have been considering this because honestly ATT sucks and having to switch SIM cards it is not such a big deal because mostly I use Whatsapp / other chat apps so the number is not that critical but it would be a lot more convenient to just continue using your phone.

[Steve 9696]

I switched to Google Fi recently for $70/ month including unlimited data in 200 countries. And wow. How nice to not worry about no data or getting a SIM. It just magically works. Totally worth it. High recommend.

[DramaFree11]

I agree. I met two of his favorite girls in the past and they were just average. I will try to go back to CDMX in January for my birthday and of course, hit the hottest SA girls) Can't wait.

Let me know when you will be in CDM, I would love to meet?

[DramaFree11]

I agree. I met two of his favorite girls in the past and they were just average. I will try to go back to CDMX in January for my birthday and of course, hit the hottest SA girls) Can't wait.

Correct, average at best. That being said, if you plan on hooking up with anything much better than this for $100-150, you are in for a rude awakening. Possible, but highly unlikely unless you are working in CDMX full-tine or have major contacts, even then it probably will not happen. At $100 definitely not hooking up with anything hot, $150 maybe.

[MiamiBoy1]

As far as J. See. , I have no comment. I am not sure why he post those pictures and pays those girls. If you have any game or skill you can get those girls for free. I am not going to fly to another country to have low quality girls, sorry, it just makes no sense.

I agree. I met two of his favorite girls in the past and they were just average. I will try to go back to CDMX in January for my birthday and of course, hit the hottest SA girls) Can't wait.

[Simplii]

As I said, I am a native speaker so whether they speak English or not is not important for me. That may be the difference in price. Everything else you mentioned (3-5 hours, 2-3 pops), I get. That has never been an issue. A few ones even spend the night although it is very rare because most of them still live with family so it is hard to justify.

Oh yes. Absolutely, you can find better prices and more opportunities in Mexico City if you speak Spanish too!

I had discover different dates with unconventional girls, good and bad experiences, it's better to talk the local language.

If you can Pay more like Don, I think is wonderful, if not, it's ok too!! There are always girls willing to accept all kind of agreements. That's make Mexico City a wonderful place for SA.

Related to unconventional:

I had a amazing experience with a wheelchair Sugar Babe. Birth condition. So crazy! I know! But it was different and worth to try!

[Simplii]

I hope you and Don do meet up. You two have similar taste in women and love to have fun. I am bummed that I cannot be there with you two.

Let's meet up all the Seeking players in Mexico City!

I would like to talk and share ideas about this wonderful lifestyle.

[Elvis 2008]

I hope you come sometime and we can meet. CDMX is definitely more the long game then Tijuana or Colombia, but so much fun and very little competition or low end Sex tourist. It is crazy how you can get a cheaper flight to CDMX then I can, Airlines just continue to piss me off. I am back in the CDMX getting to have a drink and meeting a beautiful girl for dinner tonight.

I hope you and Don do meet up. You two have similar taste in women and love to have fun. I am bummed that I cannot be there with you two.

[Elvis 2008]

In my humble opinion, the women who are dancers or retired dancers want the most money. They are experienced and talented at quoting a high fee, some are worth it for awhile. Others are on SA simply because they have children and do not want to work late nights dancing and hustling at a titty bar. Usually the women who are older, like 35, think their pussy is worth more. Unfortunately they have alot of bad habits, are addicted to marijuana or worse, have alot more tattoos and children issues. The best age is about 24-28, they are confused, looking for adventure, and would give away their pussy if they found someone they like or thought was hot, so trading sex for money is ok with this age and they generally need less money, have less dependents to support and their life is less complicated.

NG,

I think you are talking about the USA right? If so, you are right on.

In other countries, things are different. There are not as many dancers and you are much more likely to run into a hot civilian with a regular job or student. I used to find more normal women in the USA when I first started using seeking in the USA. After a while, I did not bother with the USA. Seeking is just so much better in other countries.