Seeking Arrangements

[Steve 9696]

With travel picking up again for me, it's feels quite nice to be back in the mix. Even though Orlando was a shit show, the hunt was good. It actually very much validates my original interaction with Orlando some time ago. It is a wasteland for us. If you are not taking kids to Disney, there is nothing there IMHO.

You did bring up a point in passing that I'm curious about. I noticed in Orlando that there were many thirty something SBs on the site. Also, when browsing late twenties and early thirties in EU, the vibe in the profile is quite differernt from their younger counterparts.

So I'm wondering where is the sweet spot for you guys??

Are there some of you that like the aged scotch vs the fall beer?

Do some of you only go for the teens (18-20)?

Only go for Milfs?

Pros / Cons?

I usually look for 20 - 24, slim (don't like the extra meat), but will entertain a 19 yr old. My experience so far has been exclusively with SBs in that age range. When I have come across older SBs, they are usually on the tail end of a slew of bad life decisions and need some extra cash. Depending on the type of bad decisions, it could be cool, but it could also be an indication that she completely f*&Ki#g mental. Recent college grads getting hit by the real world, college girls, or young actresses (yes, thinking of Lili in Madrid) tend to be my sweet spot. Their bodies are usually in great shape, they are appreciative, and seem genuinely interested in the arrangement. I usually don't get hit with "text them" on the second message from a girl that I would say is "ideal", but I do get hit with that alot from the older SBs (prob escorts) or the really young SB. Just my experience.

What say you?

For me it's unfailingly 22-24 that are best. If she has a nose ring it's even more of a tell! Older than 24 I've had some sex fails (balk!) whereas under 25 have been unfailingly down to get down! I wouldn't mind 20 but they both seem flakier and they can't drink at dinner (had one carded and denied! So 22-24 is just the best. Think I've had about 30 girls in this sweet spot.

[WyattEarp]

I'm wondering why SA is not popular in Brazil? Rio and Sao Paulo are huge cities with plenty of girls. I know the talent is there, but for some reason they don't utilize the platform. When I was in Rio last summer I was only able to score 1 date (good one, though), pickings were extra slim, Medellin for example, has 5-6 times more girls on SA using the same search criteria. Has anyone successfully used SA in Rio or SP? I'm sure SA could be a good alternative to Scandallo girls for someone who prefers GFE dates and would like to get a better deal. I have just did a quick search, and SP got twice as many girls 18-25 yo as Rio, however, not many stunners to choose from.

This is been discussed before. I believe Steve and others have pointed out that countries with well-developed P4P scenes seem to not be great Seeking destinations. Of course, this is a generalization and doesn't hold true to form everywhere. Some guys here have had great success with SA in Colombia even with its robust P4P scene. While others have found Seeking advantageous in Argentina where P4P has been driven underground.

I would add that from my years of visiting Brazil for business and pleasure that Brazilians (and other South Americans) have had very strong sugar daddy cultures. The income disparity has always been very high. Actually, one of the highest particularly for a fairly industrialize country. And if you consider, the very low wages at the base of the Brazilian pyramid you start to get the picture.

Taking all of this into consideration, I have to wonder if young Brazilian women with limited incomes really ever needed Seeking. Brazil has P4P freelancer venues that are more like nightclubs than brothels. A working girl at a boate (club) picks her partner and price. Some working girls fall into regular arrangements. I also think sugar daddies and sugar babies have been finding each other for decades in Brazil. Perhaps through work, through word of mouth or even at night clubs. It was not unusual for a business colleague to ask an attractive waitress thirty years younger for her phone number. Many times she would give it to him.

[The Cane]

Hey NeilGeorge,

It is THEM! That was kinda my assertion in the original post.

And thanks to you for verifying me. Seeking sucks and is mostly a waste of money (and a huge waste of time), at least in the United States it is, which is the only place I have ever used it. Although I'm no longer active, I didn't actually delete my account, and I still get expressions of interest from time to time. Keeping an account was actually a conscious decision to extend my "experiment". What happens when you're no longer active, but keep your account? Well for one thing, Seeking is trying hard to get me to come back, offering a 20% discount. Make it free, and then I'll think about it LOL!

[LshRoomer]

Thankyou for verifying why I am done with SA. Its not me or you. It them.

Hey NeilGeorge,

It is THEM! That was kinda my assertion in the original post.

BUT.

Don't give up too fast! I think it really really depends on location. Steve9696 validated the same in his local geo.

Hit up Spain or London and the games go away (to a degree). I usually have too many responses to give attention to each one. I start copying and pasting responses because there are so many. Totally different experience overseas. Well worth the time. The experience is well worth it.

Just my. 02.

[LshRoomer]

+1 Shroomer. Great write up and great to see you back. I was just reflecting on the wide city variance as well. At home in a second tier city it's a handful of fat chicks And the usual suspects. I am soooo lucky to have scored Shayla. (She's actually from out of state). But now I am surfing Vegas and have the filter set to 22-24 year old slim or average Latinas and there is a shitload of options and different ones each day. Having to pare things down. Not going to be 3 see notes for sure. Hoping to keep it to 5. Will have to charm their pants off. Fortunately that's my thing. LOL.

With travel picking up again for me, it's feels quite nice to be back in the mix. Even though Orlando was a shit show, the hunt was good. It actually very much validates my original interaction with Orlando some time ago. It is a wasteland for us. If you are not taking kids to Disney, there is nothing there IMHO.

You did bring up a point in passing that I'm curious about. I noticed in Orlando that there were many thirty something SBs on the site. Also, when browsing late twenties and early thirties in EU, the vibe in the profile is quite differernt from their younger counterparts.

So I'm wondering where is the sweet spot for you guys??

Are there some of you that like the aged scotch vs the fall beer?

Do some of you only go for the teens (18-20)?

Only go for Milfs?

Pros / Cons?

I usually look for 20 - 24, slim (don't like the extra meat), but will entertain a 19 yr old. My experience so far has been exclusively with SBs in that age range. When I have come across older SBs, they are usually on the tail end of a slew of bad life decisions and need some extra cash. Depending on the type of bad decisions, it could be cool, but it could also be an indication that she completely f*&Ki#g mental. Recent college grads getting hit by the real world, college girls, or young actresses (yes, thinking of Lili in Madrid) tend to be my sweet spot. Their bodies are usually in great shape, they are appreciative, and seem genuinely interested in the arrangement. I usually don't get hit with "text them" on the second message from a girl that I would say is "ideal", but I do get hit with that alot from the older SBs (prob escorts) or the really young SB. Just my experience.

What say you?

[Gfefan]

Never met anyone like her. Counting my blessings. Who's the horniest beast you have ever been with?

For me, this has to be Miss J. She lives about a couple of hours away from me. But never says no. If I feel like having a good fuck, and tell her to get her ass (well, pussy) to me, she does.

Once I told her at 3 PM and she was kissing me at my personal bar at 7 PM. I had not even started to fondle her, but when I slipped my fingers down there after a few kisses, she was soaking wet. Pulled it down, unzipped and I was inside her in like 30 secs. We went on to fuck 3 times just that night. And 3 more next morning before she left at 11 AM.

We would have a 45 min session in bed, I lay on her for few minutes and we go to shower with the idea of washing off. But, while in shower, things heat up and before we know, we are fucking in the shower.

There was another occasion I was visiting her town in work. Had booked this hotel with sauna and pools at the ground floor. We go to sauna (maybe, 10 other people there naked). She sits next to me. I pretend as if I am holding her waist. But soon, she is seated on my palm and my fingers are inside. She is wet again.

We exit sauna, go upstairs to my room and fuck.

She is so horny that she sometimes initiates sex before I do. I love that.

[The Cane]

I'm wondering why SA is not popular in Brazil? Has anyone successfully used SA in Rio or SP?

We don't need no stinking Seeking in Brazil! Too many other good options. Brazil even has several good escort agencies that I don't have to worry about bait and switch with. It's the only country I've mongered in where I can say that with confidence. There are plenty of avenues to get GFE in Brazil if that's what you want without needing SA. That's part of the beauty of Brazil. A multitude of options. What contributes to it being numero uno!

[MiamiBoy1]

I'm wondering why SA is not popular in Brazil? Rio and Sao Paulo are huge cities with plenty of girls. I know the talent is there, but for some reason they don't utilize the platform. When I was in Rio last summer I was only able to score 1 date (good one, though), pickings were extra slim, Medellin for example, has 5-6 times more girls on SA using the same search criteria. Has anyone successfully used SA in Rio or SP? I'm sure SA could be a good alternative to Scandallo girls for someone who prefers GFE dates and would like to get a better deal. I have just did a quick search, and SP got twice as many girls 18-25 yo as Rio, however, not many stunners to choose from.

[Ggekko2009]

+1 Shroomer. Great write up and great to see you back. I was just reflecting on the wide city variance as well. At home in a second tier city it's a handful of fat chicks And the usual suspects. I am soooo lucky to have scored Shayla. (She's actually from out of state). But now I am surfing Vegas and have the filter set to 22-24 year old slim or average Latinas and there is a shitload of options and different ones each day. Having to pare things down. Not going to be 3 see notes for sure. Hoping to keep it to 5. Will have to charm their pants off. Fortunately that's my thing. LOL.

Vegas is probably one of the most expensive place to monger. If you are able to get one with just 5 Benjamins, that was a huge bargain. I remember spending on average a grand for a two hours package eight years ago through this agency, but at least for that I get GFE, CIM, anal experience with video production of our act for keepsake. I am definitely not a porn director material, but it's meant for own consumption anyway LOL. These days, I will be lucky if I can even get that kind of pricing in Vegas for such a package service.

[NeilGeorge]

Some places are definitely better for SA than others. I let loose the wins and the losses alike.

I was in Orlando for business for 4 days. In traditional fashion, I activated my membership and started messaging about 7 days before arrival. I started probably around noonish and after sending out quite a few messages I was surprised that an hour had gone by and I only got like one reply and it wasn't very good. Very little views and in general, it was far less than what I'm used to. After chekcing the site the next day, there were replies, but none were very interesting. It's like I was fighting an uphill battle with the girls resisting the whole way.

Conversations would start, then after 2 exchanges no answer, ghosted or blocked. It felt like the dynamic was such that the girls felt they were in control and wanted to maintain that power dynamic. Very different vibe than in other parts of the world. Of the many girls that I spoke to, I was able to pull 5 or so out of the water.

Thankyou for verifying why I am done with SA. Its not me or you. It them.

[Steve 9696]

Your report is simply hilarious and I have enjoyed reading it. My impression of US based SBs are baked-in for the worse now that you have validated your experience. I am sorry that you had to go through this, but hey, it's life. We experienced through them and share our stories here. For me, some of these SBs have ghosted me after agreeing on a package and I have probably ghosted quite a few of them myself after more interactions over text. Just feel they are not worth the trouble.

Now I am just using it for my hunt in other countries like Colombia. It will be interesting to learn about your SB experiences in Frankfurt and other cities in Germany.

+1 Shroomer. Great write up and great to see you back. I was just reflecting on the wide city variance as well. At home in a second tier city it's a handful of fat chicks And the usual suspects. I am soooo lucky to have scored Shayla. (She's actually from out of state). But now I am surfing Vegas and have the filter set to 22-24 year old slim or average Latinas and there is a shitload of options and different ones each day. Having to pare things down. Not going to be 3 see notes for sure. Hoping to keep it to 5. Will have to charm their pants off. Fortunately that's my thing. LOL.

[Ggekko2009]

Some places are definitely better for SA than others. I let loose the wins and the losses alike.



This was my experience over the weekend. Now in stark contrast, I browsed some profiles in Frankfurt and Madrid (just to check out the talent) as I will be there in the coming months. I didn't send any messages, and I already have more than 10 views and about 8 messages within about 2 hours. I haven't even tried yet! My experience keeps showing over and over that SA (for me) works waaaay better in EU than in the US. Just my experience, and it's definitely not a definitive statement.

Be safe out there guys and good luck.

Your report is simply hilarious and I have enjoyed reading it. My impression of US based SBs are baked-in for the worse now that you have validated your experience. I am sorry that you had to go through this, but hey, it's life. We experienced through them and share our stories here. For me, some of these SBs have ghosted me after agreeing on a package and I have probably ghosted quite a few of them myself after more interactions over text. Just feel they are not worth the trouble.

Now I am just using it for my hunt in other countries like Colombia. It will be interesting to learn about your SB experiences in Frankfurt and other cities in Germany.

[Pessimist]

Some places are definitely better for SA than others. I let loose the wins and the losses alike.

I was in Orlando for business for 4 days. In traditional fashion, I activated my membership and started messaging about 7 days before arrival. I started probably around noonish and after sending out quite a few messages I was surprised that an hour had gone by and I only got like one reply and it wasn't very good. Very little views and in general, it was far less than what I'm used to. After chekcing the site the next day, there were replies, but none were very interesting. It's like I was fighting an uphill battle with the girls resisting the whole way.

Conversations would start, then after 2 exchanges no answer, ghosted or blocked. It felt like the dynamic was such that the girls felt they were in control and wanted to maintain that power dynamic. Very different vibe than in other parts of the world. Of the many girls that I spoke to, I was able to pull 5 or so out of the water.

The madness:.

Hilarious and honest report. Enjoyed reading it. Thanks LOL.

I heard Orlando is terrible. Tbh, I had some good experiences in Miami area (expensive) and Tampa. Never tried Orlando, only go there to take kids to Disney LOL. But your report is consistent with my views of that city.

Hope better luck next time on your travel.

Thanks for sharing.

[LshRoomer]

Some places are definitely better for SA than others. I let loose the wins and the losses alike.

I was in Orlando for business for 4 days. In traditional fashion, I activated my membership and started messaging about 7 days before arrival. I started probably around noonish and after sending out quite a few messages I was surprised that an hour had gone by and I only got like one reply and it wasn't very good. Very little views and in general, it was far less than what I'm used to. After chekcing the site the next day, there were replies, but none were very interesting. It's like I was fighting an uphill battle with the girls resisting the whole way.

Conversations would start, then after 2 exchanges no answer, ghosted or blocked. It felt like the dynamic was such that the girls felt they were in control and wanted to maintain that power dynamic. Very different vibe than in other parts of the world. Of the many girls that I spoke to, I was able to pull 5 or so out of the water.

The madness:

Girl1:

She wanted to meet the first day that I messaged her, but I wasnt' in town. After I arrived, she wouldn't respond to any messages. Ghosted.

Girl2:

Brazilian girl that gave me her number in her first response. Her profile only showed her ass. When we moved over to texting, she asked me to send her some of my pics. I usually comply and don't have a problem with this. It's a fair trade. In this case, being as though you can see me on my profile (with glasses) yet on hers, you can only see her ass, I asked her to send me a pic so I can see her face. She refused and said "you first". After two rounds of this, I got a little irritated and stopped texting. SBs usually don't' behave like this, escorts do.

Girl3:

Had a great conversation and she was down. She want three see notes and the deal was set. She lived about 40 minutes from where I was staying which makes an hour and twenty minute round trip commute during rush hour. I had a team dinner with my Director that was around 8 ish. We were talking around 5 and I didn't want to risk being late, so I didn't' go and told her that the timing just doesn't work out and maybe we should try the next day. Initially she said okay. Then she wrote back an hour later and said that my dinner was "optional" (I never said that) and that she doesn't understand why it takes 3 hours to hookup. She said SA is a hookup site and I was wasting her time. Keep in mind that I offered to Uber her to me in order to save time and she said it was too far and that she wanted to chill with her cousins around 730/800; also that traffic was going to be pretty bad. This is def not the type of selfish girl I'm looking for and in my case, I'm not looking for just a hookup. I need the SB package.

Girl 4:

We spoke for a couple days and she seemed promising. She works three jobs but was going to make time for me one of the nights. I like the thin EU spinner type. Her body was thicker than I'm used to but, it was still acceptable in the pics, so I figured I'd give it a try. She asked me to come by her job to see her so I did and as soon as she walked up I could see that the pics lied. I mean they really lied. She had a big ass, sloppy tits and generally was fluffy. I don't want skin and bones, but I'm not into the fluff. Besides that, she was busy with work and told me that she wanted to hookup with her friends after work. I was kind of expecting to hang out together and then head back to my place. I left and went back to the hotel. She texted me several times since then, but my interest is gone. I don't want the mom body that hasn't spent a day in the gym. I take care of myself and I kinda expect the same.

Girl5:

Looks were a 5, but her body was a 7. 5 based on the pics. We moved to text after 3 exchanges and she was right to the point. She wanted 3 see notes and was very forward from the begnning. She told me that she does eat ass and doesn't like cum in her mouth or on her face. This was totally unsolicited as I never mentioned any of them. I was still trying to find out what she liked to do for fun. LOL. We met at a hookah lounge and as she walks up I am immediately disappointed. The face was busted, her thighs were thick (not in a good way), ass was flat, and generally had no sex appeal. I couldn't even bribe my dick to give it a shot. You know like, "Hey buddy, I know this one is really bad, but it you do this one, I'll give you that russian blonde from Madrid that you like. " LOL LOL. What made it worse was revealed when I sat next to her. She had really really bad breath. I have never smelled breath that bad on a girl before. It was disgusting. She then went on to tell me that she spends all day drinking and smoking and making money, but at the same time she was very excited to start a new job at Dunkin Donuts. She told me how crazy she is and that her legs sometimes go numb without warning. My first thought was how are you able to drive? I was scared as hell getting in the car with her. I had to end the night early, as it truly was that bad.

This was my experience over the weekend. Now in stark contrast, I browsed some profiles in Frankfurt and Madrid (just to check out the talent) as I will be there in the coming months. I didn't send any messages, and I already have more than 10 views and about 8 messages within about 2 hours. I haven't even tried yet! My experience keeps showing over and over that SA (for me) works waaaay better in EU than in the US. Just my experience, and it's definitely not a definitive statement.

Be safe out there guys and good luck.

[Steve 9696]

Being with Shayla for a couple months now (off and on) I am concluding I've never been with a truly horny girl before. Yes been with girls that def enjoy sex. But never one who got turned on so quickly and just doesn't want to stop. I guess Jade was damn close with her "you can fuck me all night baby if you want" line. She was a hot mess also.

But damn Shayla is a beast. Like you start kissing and it's light stuff. Maybe LFK at best and you are wondering, does she really like to kiss? She starts off this way every time. Then you get her going by sucking her tits. She starts moaning and is wet as Niagara Falls in like 30 seconds flat. And starts kissing like she will eat your face. After we fuck she literally has juice running down her thighs. And the other night after fucking for like 30 minutes I am near the edge so I say "babe I want to cum in your mouth" and she says "ummmm just a few more strokes it feels so good" and continues on a bit before giving me a shattering CIM and swallow.

Never met anyone like her. Counting my blessings. Who's the horniest beast you have ever been with?