Seeking Arrangements

[DramaFree11]

Not the same "game" -- he was asking about picking up regular girls, with no money involved.

If I meet a woman at a club (or beach, or bookstore, or tinder, or feeld or whatever), we meet, fuck and never see each other again, how did I pay "indirectly"?

Everybody pays, one way or another. You can be in denial all you want. Time is money.

[Elvis 2008]

The other is I've always had this belief Monterey is just a boring business city. So I'm not sure whether worth visiting.

Anyone know or know another Mexican city really worth its salt (not Tijuana).

Outside of a few cities like Orlando, NYC, or DC, how many things are there for a tourist to do? I remember going to KC and we hit all the tourist spots in a weekend, and a buddy of mine was like, "Well that just about does it. ", and you could say the same of Monterrey. But KC is a great city with good people, great restaurants, and some good looking women just like Monterrey.

But Monterrey is way more modern with younger people, and it is surrounded by green mountains which allows for some great hikes. So there is a natural beauty that KC does not have. It also does not have the cold KC does but it can easily get into the 30's in the winter and 100's in the summer.

CDMX has a better climate but unlike CDMX, you do not have to deal with the pollution and altitude issues. I have a helluva time sleeping in CDMX because of the altitude. From a monger POV, Monterrey has a much bigger strip club, casa, and escort agency scene than CDMX does.

I don't know why it is not being more reported but companies are moving away from China as an industrial base and moving it to the Southern USA and Northern Mexico in droves. This is such a huge ordeal that the only city I can compare Monterrey growth wise to is Austin, and that has caused rents to swell. When I looked at apartment prices three years ago, an apartment in Monterrey was double the price of similar ones in CDMX.

The Cancun region is like Mexico's Orlando. That is where you can spend a month and not do all the touristy things. The women in that area are at USA prices and given how many women from CDMX and Monterrey are willing to go, I think it is best to import them there. The big news there is Tulum has opened its own airport and there is now a train connecting all of the Yucutan peninsula.

[NoBuglyFitches]

Sorry, game is definitely involved.

Not the same "game" -- he was asking about picking up regular girls, with no money involved.

Yes, everybody pays for pussy one way or another, some pay directly some pay in-directly.

If I meet a woman at a club (or beach, or bookstore, or tinder, or feeld or whatever), we meet, fuck and never see each other again, how did I pay "indirectly"?

[Elvis 2008]

I like her company but don't want a relationship.

What you mean is you do not want a relationship WITH HER.

She doesn't either and ended her first experience on sa when the guy wanted one.

She did not want a relationship WITH HIM. And my understanding is that you think because she did not want a relationship with him, you think that she does not want with you.

I've been seeing a girl from sa for about 2 months now. PPM / allowance didn't come up until we were in bed the second time and when I asked what she expected she said she wasn't looking for money, just casual sex. She is ok going bare as well which is nice.

I don't think women do that unless they like a guy.

We both agreed that if we saw other people we'the use protection but I don't want to bring it up and look possessive.

I just want to recount. She is fucking you twice a week. You are not paying her. You are paying for things like a BF, going bare, and only seeing each other, and you think you are not in a relationship?

When she was over last week we were talking about dating / sa and I said something she took as an insult about her getting hit on in public. She also asked what I was looking for on sa and if I'the done allowances before. This past weekend she's active on sa again and I'm worried I messed it up by insulting her or if she's feeling shorted about the allowance.I was thinking about taking her on a trip but now I'm not sure. I'the like to know how you guys handle or decide how much to put into this kind of relationship. I know it's not really sugar and more like a fwb but don't know where else to post. have you tried picking up regular girls?

Do you think that she may be mad because you are not treating her like a "regular girl"? Honestly, you have me confused.

If I am paying a woman, and guys who think they are getting it for free do not get this, that is an insult to the woman. I am telling the woman that I am ONLY interested in them for sex and fun. You can debate the amount but I am telling them I am not interested in them. I am paying them for sex, decent companionship, and to leave right? The reason I am with women is that they make me feel good, and if I feel like you are only going to do that with a leash of money attached to you, it means I do not trust you.

Rarely, I met a woman where I felt comfortable not paying them. IOW, I think you can make me feel good without a money leash attached. I am actually giving a woman a chance to earn my monogamy. Are you going to keep putting out? Are you going to burden me with all your problems of you, your friends, and family? Are you going to be depressed all the time or be upbeat when we are together? Are you going to be perpetually offended? What I am saying when I am here is I am willing to explore a relationship with you but not commit to just you.

The one thing I think that needs to be absolutely clear to women is that they have to EARN a guy's monogamy. Just because she fucked me does not mean I am just with her. Women expect this to be like a default position when they know it goes against man's very nature. IMO giving a woman your monogamy is the most precious gift you can give a woman. And you are giving that away just for bareback sex? While she is on seeking looking for other men? Why? This is where you have painted yourself in the corner. You want bareback sex but really are with a woman you do not want to be monogamous with. You need to wrap it up or accept the risks of going bare and continue to look for other women. That is what you really want.

As far as a "regular woman" goes, there were 10,000+ women within 5 miles of my house that were on seeking, so I don't buy that seeking women are all hookers. I have heard too many "regular women" talk openly about having a SD.

[AmericanPi]

Drama Free is the king of Monterrey Seeking. I will poke him and ask him to chime in.

Chime in Drama Free!

[FilthyBeaver]

Not that I don't believe you but ask yourself; why would someone I've ever met ask me to take them shopping the first time we meet? The answer is because she thinks she can get more from you than if she just gave you a price. She's betting on the fact that when she bats her eyes and flips her hair you won't say no to some overpriced crap so what should have been a $500 arrangement (or whatever the price is) would turn into a $2-3 k price is right episode.

The fact that she tried to guilt you into think you insulted her because you didn't trust her tells you everything you need to know about her. Move on and be glad you got the experience.

I was right about something being off. She was basically trying to play me. She asked me to buy her an iphone before we even meet. I said I would do it when I meet her and she insisted and then said she has no reason to be with someone who can't trust her etc blah blah and said bye and removed me as a contact. I video chatted her and she was definitely real, so 90% chance if I had bought it for her I doubt I would have ever met her, but who really knows.

[Steve 9696]

I'm heading to Mexico for a conference next week. I have done seeking many times in Cdmx and I love it.

I've never been to Monterrey before. Considering going. It's not that I don't love Cdmx. I've just been so many times. But I wonder if Monterey is worth going to along 2 axes. One is the Seeking game. Is it a strong pool? The other is I've always had this belief Monterey is just a boring business city. So I'm not sure whether worth visiting.

Anyone know or know another Mexican city really worth its salt (not Tijuana).

Drama Free is the king of Monterrey Seeking. I will poke him and ask him to chime in.

[Steve 9696]

I was right about something being off. She was basically trying to play me. She asked me to buy her an iphone before we even meet. I said I would do it when I meet her and she insisted and then said she has no reason to be with someone who can't trust her etc blah blah and said bye and removed me as a contact. I video chatted her and she was definitely real, so 90% chance if I had bought it for her I doubt I would have ever met her, but who really knows.

Yeah it's surprising but some girls will invest in the "deep scam". I believe Blue Moon got in quite deep with a girl texting and then got the "my phone broke" message. I am a little shocked but yeah seem some girls will go to this level.

[DramaFree11]

I'm heading to Mexico for a conference next week. I have done seeking many times in Cdmx and I love it.

I've never been to Monterrey before. Considering going. It's not that I don't love Cdmx. I've just been so many times. But I wonder if Monterey is worth going to along 2 axes. One is the Seeking game. Is it a strong pool? The other is I've always had this belief Monterey is just a boring business city. So I'm not sure whether worth visiting.

Anyone know or know another Mexican city really worth its salt (not Tijuana).

I rotate between the 2 cities. MTY is good but CDMX is way better. MTY takes much more work and time.

[AmericanPi]

I'm heading to Mexico for a conference next week. I have done seeking many times in Cdmx and I love it.

I've never been to Monterrey before. Considering going. It's not that I don't love Cdmx. I've just been so many times. But I wonder if Monterey is worth going to along 2 axes. One is the Seeking game. Is it a strong pool? The other is I've always had this belief Monterey is just a boring business city. So I'm not sure whether worth visiting.

Anyone know or know another Mexican city really worth its salt (not Tijuana).

[BallsDeep1980]

Somewhere I misse the part where this is a Brasilian girl. 2000 R is a crapload of money in Brasil. How much time are you spending together for this 2000 R?

P.S. Doesn't seem like a scam but not necessarily cheap either. Only suss thing is most girls want cash.

I was right about something being off. She was basically trying to play me. She asked me to buy her an iphone before we even meet. I said I would do it when I meet her and she insisted and then said she has no reason to be with someone who can't trust her etc blah blah and said bye and removed me as a contact. I video chatted her and she was definitely real, so 90% chance if I had bought it for her I doubt I would have ever met her, but who really knows.

[DramaFree11]

There is no 'game' if we are paying LOL! PU is a lot of work. You got to go where the girls are, max out your looks and profile, be on the top of your game, and still contend with a lot of failed approaches and "I-like-you-but" dates with girls who are quite average by sugar standards. If you got a big dick, there are specialized apps for women / couples looking for that, but it's a buyer's market even there and same story -- girls are not the hottest (but they ARE horny for you).

Sorry, game is definitely involved. The hot girls are being contacted by hundreds of guys on weekly basis maybe more, they have options.

Yes, everybody pays for pussy one way or another, some pay directly some pay in-directly.

Being a the top perform is also, called "Game".

I have been seeing some girls for over 3 years now, we choose to see each other, and we have become friends. 2 of the girls I am seeing in MTY have boyfriends in Europe, they can write there own ticket. One was a model and the other is even better looking, she is close to a 10 as I have ever had and I never use those words.

As I have always said, SA takes money, time, hard work, some luck and game.

[NoBuglyFitches]

Also, for guys like Steve that sound like their game has gotten pretty good, have you tried picking up regular girls? The one good thing about seeking is I've gotten a lot more practice dates that way.

There is no 'game' if we are paying LOL! PU is a lot of work. You got to go where the girls are, max out your looks and profile, be on the top of your game, and still contend with a lot of failed approaches and "I-like-you-but" dates with girls who are quite average by sugar standards. If you got a big dick, there are specialized apps for women / couples looking for that, but it's a buyer's market even there and same story -- girls are not the hottest (but they ARE horny for you).

[Roller1929]

What's the going rate / monthly allowance for a mid 20's girl in Sydney Australia? I was in an arrangement with a uni girl in 2021 with $2000 per month arrangement with once a week meetups for lunch + fun at a hotel (3 hours total). Just got back on Seeking and hearing allowance in the range of $1000 to $2000 per week. What's going on honestly?

[Steve 9696]

Been in contact for about a month. I am on her instagram, she has sent me Voice Messages, etc, also she said she wants me to take her shopping and spend about 2 k reais on her which I think is reasonable. I might just be being paranoid here.

Somewhere I misse the part where this is a Brasilian girl. 2000 R is a crapload of money in Brasil. How much time are you spending together for this 2000 R?

P.S. Doesn't seem like a scam but not necessarily cheap either. Only suss thing is most girls want cash.