Seeking Arrangements

[Elvis 2008]

Let me guess, you are not married.

LOL. Good guess. I was married, happily divorced now. I tried to cover my tracks, but the ex hunted everything down.

[Artisttyp]

I usually pay 1200/1500 a month per SB, I spend somewhere between 5,000 to 7,000 a month for this hobby, very discipline always on budget.

Everyone is different but I like variety because I always get bored and would want to sample new girl no matter how great she looks. As the saying goes, the only thing better than pussy is new pussy.

What is SB?

I usually spend around $1500 a month down in Tijuana. That would be my budget.

I have no problem with lower tier girls if the service is good.

[Steve 9696]

Other than SA in Atlanta, what are the other options? I used to go to Atlanta a lot for work. I mostly used rub maps. Found some great AMPS. But on my most recent trip, I had difficulty finding AMPS that offered FS. And when I did find them, they were asking for ridiculous tip amounts. Or is SA the best option in Atlanta? Man, there are so many hot women in Atlanta.

As discussed SA is the best option by far in the US if:

You have time to search.

You have time for a date.

Are not objectionable in some way.

The only other real alternative I know is P411. Of course you have to be a member. And I think they closed that up with all the sesta / fosta nonsense. I can browse ATL for you if you like. Just send me a PM.

[Midwestern]

Sounds similar to my situation, I was traveling quite a bit last year for work, this year I'm in Atlanta & there are plenty of clients here so no travel. I only have a $3 k a month budget which is plenty to play on around this area, like you I am very disciplined on my budget. I never touch my savings, always hit my $1500 a month savings contribution & have my 401 k maxed at $19 k a year, I have over $800 k in savings & retirement while in my 40's, plus a house paid off.

What part of the world are you in?

Other than SA in Atlanta, what are the other options? I used to go to Atlanta a lot for work. I mostly used rub maps. Found some great AMPS. But on my most recent trip, I had difficulty finding AMPS that offered FS. And when I did find them, they were asking for ridiculous tip amounts. Or is SA the best option in Atlanta? Man, there are so many hot women in Atlanta.

[SeekingHead]

It is easier for me because I travel, so always I have hotel room, I have conversation in advance, book a meeting at cafe next to my hotel and off to business in my room. Dinner, bull shitting about future prospect is very important, if she doesn't see potential then she will try to get the max she can immediately out of you. Dinner date first time only, after that just book the room by the hour and do your deed, keep in mind you always have negotiation power, she needs money to pay her bills you can always masturbate and go to sleep.

My experience Black, Latina / Spanish and white girls (no experience with Asian / Indian), personal preference I like girls with some ass to smack on. I avoid girls with inflated sense of entitlement demanding $$$ to be seen next to you. I can afford it but I refuse to do it. I am here for the experience of the variety not to prove a point to someone for banging some delusional self-absorbed chick. I see multiple girls my rule is girls who are pleasant and who really need the help looks 7-8 ish. I got a 19 year old gorgeous latina girl, who doesn't go out much was extremely grateful for a nice dinner and 150 dollars because that is how much she makes working all day at her minimum wage job. If you offer a girl $1200 a month to see her twice a week, that is essentially $150 per session. Like I said that is very rare 90% of my payment is 200-300. DO not text a random SB offering 150-200 per session most will be offended and won't respond back to you. However when the women meet you and discuss and see the potential for monthly arrangement they will accept your offer. I have a budget for, sugar relationship, strip clubs, and other entertainment I usually pay 1200/1500 a month per SB, I spend somewhere between 5,000 to 7,000 a month for this hobby, very discipline always on budget..

Sounds similar to my situation, I was traveling quite a bit last year for work, this year I'm in Atlanta & there are plenty of clients here so no travel. I only have a $3 k a month budget which is plenty to play on around this area, like you I am very disciplined on my budget. I never touch my savings, always hit my $1500 a month savings contribution & have my 401 k maxed at $19 k a year, I have over $800 k in savings & retirement while in my 40's, plus a house paid off.

What part of the world are you in?

[AddisDude]

Good Info Thanks.

So when SEX does happen it is usually at her place or a hotel or do you ever bring an SA date back to your own home?

It seems like hotel cost plus date plus allowance is not too far off from taking a 3/4 day mongering trip eventually. Am I missing something?

I'd be willing to do something like 1 k per month. Maybe 1 session a week for an hour or two full service. Yes / No?

And what about Covid. Has it not ruined SA for the time being or has it evolved more since Covid?

Thanks.

It is easier for me because I travel, so always I have hotel room, I have conversation in advance, book a meeting at cafe next to my hotel and off to business in my room. Dinner, bull shitting about future prospect is very important, if she doesn't see potential then she will try to get the max she can immediately out of you. Dinner date first time only, after that just book the room by the hour and do your deed, keep in mind you always have negotiation power, she needs money to pay her bills you can always masturbate and go to sleep.

My experience Black, Latina / Spanish and white girls (no experience with Asian / Indian), personal preference I like girls with some ass to smack on. I avoid girls with inflated sense of entitlement demanding $$$ to be seen next to you. I can afford it but I refuse to do it. I am here for the experience of the variety not to prove a point to someone for banging some delusional self-absorbed chick. I see multiple girls my rule is girls who are pleasant and who really need the help looks 7-8 ish. I got a 19 year old gorgeous latina girl, who doesn't go out much was extremely grateful for a nice dinner and 150 dollars because that is how much she makes working all day at her minimum wage job. If you offer a girl $1200 a month to see her twice a week, that is essentially $150 per session. Like I said that is very rare 90% of my payment is 200-300. DO not text a random SB offering 150-200 per session most will be offended and won't respond back to you. However when the women meet you and discuss and see the potential for monthly arrangement they will accept your offer. I have a budget for, sugar relationship, strip clubs, and other entertainment I usually pay 1200/1500 a month per SB, I spend somewhere between 5,000 to 7,000 a month for this hobby, very discipline always on budget.

Everyone is different but I like variety because I always get bored and would want to sample new girl no matter how great she looks. As the saying goes, the only thing better than pussy is new pussy.

[SeekingHead]

I have written about Corona and the impact it has had on Sugar babe attitudes in this thread.

$1 K per month is not a whole lot, especially if you expect a weekly fuck. If you can meet the girl at your own place, it is possible. Perhaps if you can snag some girls as Addis Dude did for $150, it is possible. In my experience, 200 to 300 has been more common. If you have to spend any money on hotels, it cuts into the budget for the girl. Of course, this also depends on who is the girl. 20-25 age group slender white girls with pretty faces command a high premium. If you are seeking Latino, Black girls, or older girls, or not such model looking types, you can stretch your budget. I have to say Asians in the US tend to have inflated expectations and Never had any Indian girls but SFO experience kinda makes sense to me as a Indian girls do tend to have princess attitude to sex.

Find a good girl, try her a couple of times and then ask her for a monthly arrangement at $1 K. Tell her that you are at the limit of your budget. If she declines, try someone else.

Allowances vary greatly depending upon where you live. My current girl is $1200 a month & I see her usually 2 x a week for 3 to 5 hours, it's like having a girlfriend come over. She is a 25 year old white, grad student, 5'1 about 130 lbs, cute a solid 7. She wouldn't be my first pick at a bar but I would take her home every night with no complaints. I used to live in Savannah Ga. & was in Jacksonville quite a bit for work, $150 to 200 ppm was pretty standard for a 6/7 girl. A solid 7/8 college aged girl was $200 to $250. I had a solid 9 girl who was only 144 cm tall & 40 kg, she would have been a solid 9. 5 if she was 152 cm tall, I did one ppm at $400 with her. Complete GFE all bareback, we had sex 2 x for around 3 hours. I immediately scooped her up on a $2 k a month allowance where she was basically a girlfriend for 6 months.

[Artisttyp]

Thank You for all the responses. An interesting thread indeed.

[Pessimist]

Good Info Thanks.

So when SEX does happen it is usually at her place or a hotel or do you ever bring an SA date back to your own home?

It seems like hotel cost plus date plus allowance is not too far off from taking a 3/4 day mongering trip eventually. Am I missing something?

I'd be willing to do something like 1 k per month. Maybe 1 session a week for an hour or two full service. Yes / No?

And what about Covid. Has it not ruined SA for the time being or has it evolved more since Covid?

Thanks.

I have written about Corona and the impact it has had on Sugar babe attitudes in this thread.

$1 K per month is not a whole lot, especially if you expect a weekly fuck. If you can meet the girl at your own place, it is possible. Perhaps if you can snag some girls as Addis Dude did for $150, it is possible. In my experience, 200 to 300 has been more common. If you have to spend any money on hotels, it cuts into the budget for the girl. Of course, this also depends on who is the girl. 20-25 age group slender white girls with pretty faces command a high premium. If you are seeking Latino, Black girls, or older girls, or not such model looking types, you can stretch your budget. I have to say Asians in the US tend to have inflated expectations and Never had any Indian girls but SFO experience kinda makes sense to me as a Indian girls do tend to have princess attitude to sex.

Find a good girl, try her a couple of times and then ask her for a monthly arrangement at $1 K. Tell her that you are at the limit of your budget. If she declines, try someone else.

[SfoCowboy]

If you find a reliable girl in SA then it's safer in these covid times. If you're thinking just wham bam thank you mam then your best bet would be a mongering trip. I look for a GFE mostly. The SA girls are less fucked and you have better chances of having a good time in the bed. I've done bareback with many of the SA girls and I'd never do that with an escort. I've experienced FKKs and it's a cool concept for pick and fuck.

Good Info Thanks.

So when SEX does happen it is usually at her place or a hotel or do you ever bring an SA date back to your own home?

It seems like hotel cost plus date plus allowance is not too far off from taking a 3/4 day mongering trip eventually. Am I missing something?

I'd be willing to do something like 1 k per month. Maybe 1 session a week for an hour or two full service. Yes / No?

And what about Covid. Has it not ruined SA for the time being or has it evolved more since Covid?

Thanks.

[Artisttyp]

Are you talking about the first encounter? If so, then how would that work? You book the hotel before you meet? This would be ideal, so that you guys can just waltz into the room after a few drinks. BUT, what if there's no chemistry when you meet, or what if she does not even show up? This happens often for first meetings, and then it means you booked the room for nothing. Or, you could book the hotel after chemistry is established. If so, then you will have to book the hotel on an app (or at the front desk) and then pick up the keys at the front desk. But then the gal will instantly know your real identity when you guys are checking in to get the keys. And besides, the whole process of checking into a hotel takes a while, so it is kind of a buzz kill. So this is why I just do a meet and greet for the first meeting. To establish chemistry. I will boink them later. There have been numerous occasions where I got lucky on the first encounter and we just went back to her place. BTW, if I were traveling, then yeah, make the encounter at the hotel. You are staying there anyway. So, there is no waste if she does not show or you don't like each other.

Good Info Thanks.

So when SEX does happen it is usually at her place or a hotel or do you ever bring an SA date back to your own home?

It seems like hotel cost plus date plus allowance is not too far off from taking a 3/4 day mongering trip eventually. Am I missing something?

I'd be willing to do something like 1 k per month. Maybe 1 session a week for an hour or two full service. Yes / No?

And what about Covid. Has it not ruined SA for the time being or has it evolved more since Covid?

Thanks.

[SeekingHead]

So do most encounters happen in hotels?

Usually my first meet up with sex is in a hotel, this way if they are batshit crazy, they don't know where I live. First meet & greet, a couple of days later a dinner date, get a drink either at the hotel bar or someplace close, & then to the hotel room. After the first meetup, it's usually my house.

I like to host for a # of reasons.

1.) I don't live in a complete baller pad, but I have a 5 bedroom 4 k square foot house in the north Atlanta burbs, with a walkout basement, jacuzzi, & a king sized bed in my room.

2.) I like to smoke weed and have sex, I like to avoid risk while driving with weed as it's illegal in my state.

3.) When I pay her to leave after a few hours, I can go back upstairs to the bedroom & go to sleep, no 1/2 hour trip home.

4.) No 12 o'clock checkout, if I put a all nighter in with a girl.

The current girl is completely fine with this arrangement & this is what I look for.

[DramaFree11]

I rarely chased models / aspiring models for LTR. There was this amazing girl from Mumbai, a model I met and we hung out a few times for drinks. She agreed for 1500 $ a month LTR. 6-8 meets a month with each meeting lasting from evening till next morning or over a weekend. She agreed for 250 $ a night for the first 4 meets. Somehow she became greedy and told me that she needs money and wants a monthly allowance to be given in advance. I politely dropped off. Girls who cannot keep their commitment are a strict no go.

My personal choice is students. Not 9/10 but more like 7/8.

Same thing happened to me, she was insulted that I would not pay her in advance, no way these girls are too crazy. She later asked to start the arrangement again, but was always asking for more or crazy demands.

[Pessimist]

Sigh. Pessimist, you are living in a dream world. You get a phone number, license plate, and you can check out anyone on line. I bet just from your license plate that I could find out how much you paid for your car, where you live, and how much you paid for your house in a matter of minutes. Your privacy is an illusion these days.

I never had a problem with a SB and my home life ever. The main thing is that you find women who are trustworthy and believe it or not, most are. The last thing most women want to do is fuck up a relationship. To be honest, the women I was after were so hot getting a rich, successful guy was not a problem for any of them. That is what you should be after, the most selective women there are. They have so many options it is ridiculous.

Well, all I can say is that I have been on SA and other sugar sites for 4 years. A large majority of my arrangements, which have now reached several dozen girls in total in that time frame, are in my home city vicinity and less than 60 miles of me. I do drive my own car, sometimes have given a ride to some sugar babes in my car. Till now, my identity has not been blown. If someone figured me out, they never blurted it to me and for sure no one has knocked on my door step. If some girl wants to create mischief and trouble and makes the effort to track me down, perhaps she can. I don't deny it. Perhaps the other due diligence I do, the sense you have for girls which makes you weed out who could be such miscreants, is helping me. I would and't know, but so far I have been lucky or prudent or both. I am just saying that if ever a girl comes to my door step, that's what I will do, which is have zero dialog with her, slam the door, and either threaten or call the police. I also tend not to have extended very long term arrangements and there is only a minimal amount of emotional attachment on both sides. So, that may be another factor that's been helpful.

On these sites, we all have varying degrees of experience. I realize some people had their identity blown. I don't know how that happened, what they did and did not do, but you can't assume that everyone has the same experience. For some of us with families, identity protection is paramount. It may happen that we will have identity blown, but if we expect that identity will be compromised we will not even enter these arrangements. It is like, you know there is a danger of car accident every time you drive, but if you think the danger is almost a certainty in some specific area, you will avoid that area.

[SfoCowboy]

I rarely chased models / aspiring models for LTR. There was this amazing girl from Mumbai, a model I met and we hung out a few times for drinks. She agreed for 1500 $ a month LTR. 6-8 meets a month with each meeting lasting from evening till next morning or over a weekend. She agreed for 250 $ a night for the first 4 meets. Somehow she became greedy and told me that she needs money and wants a monthly allowance to be given in advance. I politely dropped off. Girls who cannot keep their commitment are a strict no go.

My personal choice is students. Not 9/10 but more like 7/8.

Sigh. Pessimist, you are living in a dream world. You get a phone number, license plate, and you can check out anyone on line. I bet just from your license plate that I could find out how much you paid for your car, where you live, and how much you paid for your house in a matter of minutes. Your privacy is an illusion these days.

I never had a problem with a SB and my home life ever. The main thing is that you find women who are trustworthy and believe it or not, most are. The last thing most women want to do is fuck up a relationship. To be honest, the women I was after were so hot getting a rich, successful guy was not a problem for any of them. That is what you should be after, the most selective women there are. They have so many options it is ridiculous.