Seeking Arrangements

[NeilGeorge]

They think they will give you a lot of interest on the day before your membership expires. Then you will sucker into renewing. Have had enough of the mooches, tired old sluts, and overvalued hoes and need a rest. Thankfully it will expire today!

[NeilGeorge]

God put hair there so you do not get friction when you fuck, cross your legs, wear pants, and masturbate. The hair is to slide you dick into her moist juicy pussy. Like underarms. You need hair there. If you shave your balls and dick you will get rubbed and red from the friction and start to chafe. Then your dick and balls will get sick and shrink into the cold recesses of your body. Yes, I am a doctor.

You sound quite intelligent, and yes I have enjoyed reading your posts. What is your specialty, Doctor? Dick and Balls? LOL.

[The Cane]

God put hair there so you do not get friction when you fuck, cross your legs, wear pants, and masturbate. The hair is to slide you dick into her moist juicy pussy. Like underarms. You need hair there. If you shave your balls and dick you will get rubbed and red from the friction and start to chafe. Then your dick and balls will get sick and shrink into the cold recesses of your body. Yes, I am a doctor.

I wish God had thought about how I could encourage women to suck my nuts then! For this reason, besides the hair on our genitals, I'm glad he also gave us free will. Yes, I too am a doctor. Of philosophy.

[Elvis 2008]

PS. This just in. I asked for some constructive feedback and she replied. I thought it was a physical thing but actually not. She said she felt I wasnt listening to her at dinner. And I said the neighborhood wasnt too good and she was really insulted cuz its way better than where she comes from. So she felt a bit disrespected. Ouch. Made me feel kinda bad but I am glad she was honest. I can def improve knowing this.

I was married to a woman like this, someone I called a serial offender. You could say "you look nice today, honey", and if she was in the wrong mood, she would say, "Are you saying I looked like shit yesterday? God, you are such an asshole. ".

Thing is the government is actually rewarding this kind of behavior. The Babylon Bee did this bit on Twitter workers laid off: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g-voQsFY6SE.

Then I had to take a job related course on human trafficking which used to be sexual in nature but has morphed into people calling it slavery. Yes, you can be trafficked without your even knowing it and what we used to call work is now called trafficking / slavery.

The point is you are not going to get a lot of help from society with those who are the serially offended "victims". They seem to know to get offended just enough so you do not dump them, but it might not even be you that sets off the trigger. With my ex, it would be lack of food or caffeine and she would go into witch mode.

I know the USA market is tough, and people should do what they want, but with a serial offender, they never stop. Their being offended is their power, and you are supposed to apologize to them no matter what you have done. And yes, that dick line was one my ex used as well when she did not want to give head. "It tastes funny. " In the end, you are walking on egg shells, and you are the one spending the money.

And that is why I prefer the Latin world. The female equivalent of machismo is marianismo. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marianismo.

And this quote sticks with me: "don't be unhappy with your man, no matter what he does to you; don't ask for help outside of your husband; don't discuss your personal problems outside the house. ".

Compare that to Oprah Winfrey's show which was a non-stop * fest about men.

And of course, she was boring. If you are constantly restraining yourself with PC talk that does not offend, you can practically end their sentences because they just repeat what is known to be non-offensive. So yeah, these women may fulfill their traditional roles well but I cannot believe I stuck it out as long as I did with someone whose personality had two modes: boring or offended, and it is so sad that this is what we have created in our country. I swear a woman like this is what the new ideal is.

[HumbleHal]

WTF? After all of that talk about how to keep your scrotum smooth you have a hairy dick? Sounds like you need to use that Venus razor (or something) on your pecker too! Hahahaha!

God put hair there so you do not get friction when you fuck, cross your legs, wear pants, and masturbate. The hair is to slide you dick into her moist juicy pussy. Like underarms. You need hair there. If you shave your balls and dick you will get rubbed and red from the friction and start to chafe. Then your dick and balls will get sick and shrink into the cold recesses of your body. Yes, I am a doctor.

[SfoCowboy]

It depends, but the least I paid was 200 for a night. The highest I paid was 400 for spending almost 24 hours. I got lucky once and the girl didn't take anything. The spend on food, drinks etc was 200 odd. All the best!

What's the average rate? I don't look for women who charge by the hour and I prefer the first meeting to be a few hours at least.

[Mush Elvii]

BCN is where I met one of my all time favorite SBs. Paid 250. She was more about how I treated her (respectful) than how much I paid. She explicitly said that.

Dinner at a nice place (cost me 100), then drinks at a bar (about 40). Making out in cab on the way, fucking like dogs in room (I think we fucked thrice), then some wine in room. Went for a shower together and we fucked again in shower this time finishing CIM, and cuddled all night to sleep. Woke up next morning with a hard on and we fucked again even before brushing. Took her for breakfast, back to room and one last fuck. Gave her 250 and she was super happy.

With inflation now, maybe 300.

Thankyou for sharing numbers. I'm heading to bcn shortly (first time in Spain) and trying to find reference points to pivot off as needed, but it was all over the place. Some gal asking 1 K euro straight off in chat (which is surprising as anyone been member in SA for sometime know that it brings the ban quick), and some playing really coy.

I'm not able to read the SA vibe in this city yet (and I consider myself experienced user of app but all in South American continent), I am going to explore few more days to see if I get some reasonable leads or else I have to jump to prepago / casa game. Ugh!!

[KeviKev68]

There is absolutely no reason to use Seeking in Manila.

Filipina are so easy to meet and fuck that you don't need Seeking. Just use DateInAsia or Filipina Cupid or Tinder etc. You will have a girl within an hour of setting up a free account.

Also, an overnight freelancer girl expect to tip P2,000-P4000 per night, that's USD45-90/ night not the crazy Seeking girl asking prices.

Yes, I agree with this too. I think Phillpines is the one place where Seeking is not useful. In Manila there are several freelance bars and you would be better served Pinaylove or anothersite like that.

When you meet civvies there is no p4 p. You can take them to Jollibees or McDonalds and that should suffice. When I meet civvies I bring chocolates and things like that. Some women refuse things like paying for their transportation.

[AmericanPi]

Wondering how you guys give money. It's always awkward for me.

At the end of the date, I usually clumsily put the money in her purse and say something like I left the gift I promised you in your purse.

I always call it a gift. And I don't literally hand it to her so it feels less transactional.

But it still feels a little awkward. Anyone have a better way?

[Steve 9696]

That's a crash and burn? I'd call it a good week, with 1 great fuck, 1 ghost, and 1 hot starfish BBFS.

What were the prices you paid, and what ages and races were the girls?

And yeah, since you ignored the girl's 2 texts (asks for money), I'd expect that she'd ghost you. She probably got lots of other guys pre-paying her, and odds are she never showed up for those dates.

Liz is a white white girl. Not my usual type but I've come to dig her. She reluctantly agreed 300 back in 2020 but I moved her to 400 when we started barebacking later. Ghost girl was black and we never settled a figure. (That is not a sign. I've done that before.) was planning 400 which I had done with another girl same city a year ago and never discussed. Final girl was super light black mix with green eyes. 400. I might coulda got her for less but didn't try.

[The Cane]

She says she was surprised how hairy my dick is (it's not, relatively speaking) and that put her off.

WTF? After all of that talk about how to keep your scrotum smooth you have a hairy dick? Sounds like you need to use that Venus razor (or something) on your pecker too! Hahahaha!

[Ucgdx]

Anyhow point is it's not all sunshine and roses. This week I was 2 for 3. Going to give Liz a 1. 5 because it was epic. Middle girl ghosting zero. And last girl a. 5. It's tough out there fellas. (Depending on geography).

That's a crash and burn? I'd call it a good week, with 1 great fuck, 1 ghost, and 1 hot starfish BBFS.

What were the prices you paid, and what ages and races were the girls?

And yeah, since you ignored the girl's 2 texts (asks for money), I'd expect that she'd ghost you. She probably got lots of other guys pre-paying her, and odds are she never showed up for those dates.

[Steve 9696]

So I know I write on here about all my homeruns. Including recent epic date with reg Liz. But the remainder of the week was crash and burn in a Midwest city.

Day 1 I had a date planned with a girl from two weeks back. Great convo leading up to it. All the usual girlfriendy signs. A couple days before she says she's going to get her nails and brows done because she wants to look nice. Clearly an indirect money ask which I ignore. We keep talking. Day before the date she says she feels like shopping to look nice for me. Again ignore. Day of date I go to confirm. Silence. Two more texts later in day. Ghosted.

I hadn't thought much of it at the time when she did the money asks but in retrospect having been ghosted, she was looking for a sucker to send some cash. Well avoided that bullet but no date. Boo.

So next night I start poking around and get three girls on the hook. One I really dig her face and things go well and we book a date for that night. She shows up and is a pretty girl and well built but I'm not that attracted. Still no question I will fuck her. I mean I'm not going to send a pretty girl home. Really interesting girl. Tattoo artist. Competitive swimmer. Personal trainer. I mean what's not to like. But I don't feel the vibe.

Nonetheless we go to the room. Kinda awkward interactions. Kissing but not tongue. It just feels off. At some point she moves to the bed and we try to get it going but it just feels off. I kiss her neck work her pussy a bit but it's kinda starfish. So I roll on my back to at least get BJ and she starts HJ. And is there about 6 inches away but just HJ. Fortunately as an experienced guy I put the cards on the table and say hey. I can feel there's no chemistry here it can happen. And she's kinda like what do I mean? And I say well you know blowjob and sex. I can do a handjob myself.

She says she was surprised how hairy my dick is (it's not, relatively speaking) and that put her off. Then she says but it really sucks that I called out tonight because it's usually a good night (indicating she needs the money). So I say well do you want to try and do BJ and sex or just call it a night. She says no let's try. So she gives s credible BJ. We do some Steve 2 and she's at least slightly wet. Eventually doggie cowgirl and mish. The sad truth is I came pretty fast because she wasn't super wet and it was high friction. Sad. I asked her if she was ok at one point and she said yes but serious starfish fuck. No more than ten minutes max.

And then having shot on her tummy (surprised she went at it bareback with condoms literally on the nightstand) we called it a night. So I got a shot off but it was weird and awkward. Am I glad I did it versus skipping a night? Dunno. Kinda a toss up.

Anyhow point is it's not all sunshine and roses. This week I was 2 for 3. Going to give Liz a 1. 5 because it was epic. Middle girl ghosting zero. And last girl a. 5. It's tough out there fellas. (Depending on geography).

PS. This just in. I asked for some constructive feedback and she replied. I thought it was a physical thing but actually not. She said she felt I wasn’t listening to her at dinner. And I said the neighborhood wasn’t too good and she was really insulted cuz it’s way better than where she comes from. So she felt a bit disrespected. Ouch. Made me feel kinda bad but I am glad she was honest. I can def improve knowing this.

[Gfefan]

BCN is where I met one of my all time favorite SBs. Paid 250. She was more about how I treated her (respectful) than how much I paid. She explicitly said that.

Dinner at a nice place (cost me 100), then drinks at a bar (about 40). Making out in cab on the way, fucking like dogs in room (I think we fucked thrice), then some wine in room. Went for a shower together and we fucked again in shower this time finishing CIM, and cuddled all night to sleep. Woke up next morning with a hard on and we fucked again even before brushing. Took her for breakfast, back to room and one last fuck. Gave her 250 and she was super happy.

With inflation now, maybe 300.

What's the average rate? I don't look for women who charge by the hour and I prefer the first meeting to be a few hours at least.

[Elvis 2008]

Question for the membership -- Do you use burner phones when dating sugar babies outside the USA?

No, and part of the reason is because everyone outside the USA uses whatsapp. Telegram has gotten a little more popular because it is supposed to be harder to break than whatsapp.

Whatsapp is encrypted, but I would be surprised if the USA government has not been given the keys to break it by Facebook / Meta. My guess is that few other countries have the keys. If someone else knows otherwise, please enlighten us.