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01-24-23 23:25 #4359I have had girls ask me Mexico and the states to use Telegram. A definite Hell no, not debatable.
Originally Posted by Gfefan
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I simply tell the girls, I have no time for any other Social Media. If they are real and they are interested, they will contact me either Instant Messenger or WhatsApp, in Mexico.
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01-24-23 23:13 #4358
True
LOL. True that.
But this one had a certain surprising look when I made some sex moves. Well, maybe she faked that.
But the way her pussy felt around my dick (Bareback) for over 20/30 minutes. She can't fake that. Relatively fresh hole.
Originally Posted by NeilGeorge
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01-24-23 23:06 #4357
Telegram
Telegram, by itself, is not a problem in Europe.
4 out of 8 SB girls of mine used Telegram to communicate. They all turned out to be legit girls.
Originally Posted by MushElvii
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01-24-23 16:38 #4356
Yes Telegram Legit
Yeah I confirm same. My London girl Sue was a first time SB. She wouldn't give me her phone number but suggested Telegram. And she was just a regular girl. Originally Posted by AmericanPi
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01-24-23 14:33 #4355
Yes. When I was in Spain a lot of people used Telegram. The same way nobody in the states uses WhatsApp but everyone in Latin America does, telegram is pretty big in Spain.
Originally Posted by MushElvii
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01-24-23 07:39 #4354Different cities and countries develop trends. Originally Posted by MushElvii
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In 2019 I had a great SB hookup in Rome. Girl only ever used Telegram and she was 100% legit, well except for her DD size enhanced boobs. She met me as planned after her work on the Friday, stayed until I saw her off to work Monday morning. Just had to search her profile again and reminisce. She's still active in Rome, lucky people.
I think for your methodology you need some better questions up front. Look for genuine considered questions that are in the context of your discussion. I find Scammer and crypto go down a standard path.
Unfortunately it's like hunting for gems. You have to shift some dirt to find the gems. Just get better at that sifting.
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01-24-23 07:18 #4353
What's up with telegram shit!
Thanks for input. I've worked on about dozens for 8 day period (some double booked to cover for ghosting situation), but I'm just ticked off with all this telegram shit every other girl pulling off. Originally Posted by Gfefan
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Those who play in European market, is telegram really first mode of contact method rather than Whatsapp?
I never "repeat: never" hooked up with anyone using telegram as it's always crypto shit, hooker, or buy my photo / video B.S. Whenever conversation went to teleg, and I stopped using it for atleast 2+ years ago, but every other girl in BCN want to talk on telegram.
For about 16-18 contacts I mined using Whatsapp, I had to put my foot down with at least 10 of them for not using telegram. One even admitted that her BF checks Whatsapp msgs so she wanted to keep SA separate (LOL. Which tells me she is only willing to come to hotel and I usually don't do SA for direct in-call).
The other prevailing group I came across is Russians. I'm 50-50 on weather it's pro or non-pro and will vet them over tapas / drinks in person.
Looking forward for Spanish SA exploration as next month after that is Germany SA (where I also never used SA before)!
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01-24-23 04:16 #4352
Best Sugar Baby Week Ever -- Part 2
So after seeing all three girls, Krystal was the clear winner by a mile. Unfortunately I had already booked Alexa again for Wed and I didn't want to cancel on her. I mean this is a bunch of coin for these girls. So I went ahead with that date. It was OK but nothing to write home about -- so I won't.
But my Thursday date with Krystal is one of my all time favorites. She's a keeper. I've only had two girls before who I would fly to London and skip my RoGirls. Thifany and Valentina. Krystal is the first stateside girl I would do that with. Plus I could fly her to lame venues like Detroit. I think she'd be down.
We had agreed $400 as allowance a month or so ago. But I had just received my yearly bonus. So I wrote her about exactly how I wanted the date to go (room time, dinner / party time, room time) and no rush and I want to give her $600. She is totally worth more than that for the amount of time we spend together. And of course she was down with that. And OMFG it was so great. No clock watching. No money discussion. Just great.
So we start by meeting at my hotel and head straight to the room. She was actually about 30 minutes late which offered me a new experience. As I am sipping my Gin and Tonic in the lounge, a middle aged dude approaches and starts chatting me up. We chat amicably for a few minutes, but I start to wonder what his game is. Then he says that I am a handsome and sensitive man and asks for my number! Hahaha! That's a fucking first! LOL.
So Krystal arrives and she's even prettier than I remember. She just breezes in and lights up the place with her bubbly confidence. She has on a super short skirt, so short that it doesn't even come past her jacket. And a "diamond" choker. She is devastating. She is the best looking girl in the hotel and casino by a country mile.
Honestly, just walking to the room I feel like a million bucks. She's my girl and everyone else can just stand and drool!
So we head to the room and pour some Rose. Just get on the bed together and drink and chat. So comfortable. Eventually there is soft kissing, turning to passionate DFK and my hand down between her thighs, where I discover her bad-girl black lace panties have a large hole and provide some nice pussy access.
Down I go for some DATY with some nice neck sucking (she loves this) and titty sucking (her nipples get nicely erect) on the way. Then DATY, at first through the hole, but shortly we lose her panties and I give her some rip roaring DATY including Gspot fingering of course!
Her pussy is super wet and juicy. Her being a non-pro, it's not excessively washed clean of all smell. It has that perfect young girl pussy smell and when I drive my tongue fully inside there is even more awesome sauce!
We swap it up and she starts some very good BJ. She doesn't really lick as much as I like, but I hesitate to direct her as her in and out is great and sloppy and her lips have just enough black girl in her to make them a joy to watch! Reminds me of Thifany actually. Watching the BJ is a highlight.
She is not shy and she likes to talk dirty. "Do you want to fuck me baby? I want that big dick inside me. " She does this pixie cartoon type of voice. I am not usually a fan of this showmanship but she pulls it off. And yes baby I will now fuck you. Thank you for asking!
We start in cowgirl and boy is she ready to ride. She does all variety of grinding and in and out and chest to chest and fully upright. It's really good but I have enormous stamina given the "hard" week. I do like sometimes to just make it really hard, push as deep as it will go and let her use me as her fuck buddy.
This apparently works as she cums two times spaced about 5 minutes apart. She's super vocal - "oh fuck baby. Shit shit shit. Fuck fuck oh my God I am cumming". It seems a bit made up, but she is dripping wet and the second one I felt a couple light pussy clamps so she's definitely having a good time. And fuck she looks great up there riding, perfect see cups bouncing, when I am not kneading the fuck out of them.
We swap over to Mish with Plenty of DFK and neck sucking while I fuck her deep. She's left on her heels and diamond choker which just adds to it all. And she is holding her heels with her hands on either side of my head. Super deep. Getting a boner writing this!
At some point I am exhausted and we call it and I ask her to finish me by mouth. "Of course baby!" And she launches into some epic BBBJ with CIM and swallow. I love it when they swallow with a smile. Like it's yummy. I did drink my pineapple juice so maybe it was!
We rest a bit in each other's arms. Actually I think we both fell asleep for a bit. This is the unrushed part and I love it. We shower together and get dressed and head off for dinner and nightlife. I had told her earlier that I had a surprise for her but she doesn't know what.
As we are exiting the hotel, I detour her into the Swarovski crystal shop. I had scoped it out beforehand and knew virtually everything was under $300 and honestly having just gotten a very large bonus and being with this goddess I was super happy to play Real Sugar Daddy and OMG she was over the moon. We jointly picked out an amazing "diamond" necklace with matching earrings. Cost: $249. Result: Priceless!
So we bounce to our Uber, Krystal wearing her new bling, and head to dinner. We are headed to a vibey place called Sake Rok. But when we arrive they say they closed at 10. Boo. But we find another sushi place inside the NYNY hotel and it is super good. Just having dinner with her is a dream. Fuck I could look at her all day.
After dinner, we bounce to Skyfall, a rooftop bar on the 64th floor of the Delano. It's 11:15 and they close at midnight but what the heck. Highly recommended. A view to die for. We go out on the heated patio and just snuggle and drink. All of Vegas spread at the king's feet. LOL. (we find out later it's a private area we were supposed to pay for but hey we got it free!
As midnight arrives we make it back to the hotel and pretty much crash -- fully clothed on the bed in each other's arms.
We are both fucking wiped out from alot of food and drink and we doze off. At various times I wake up or she stirs too and I have these very conflicted thoughts:
I am fucking wiped. It would feel so good to just sleep. I probably can't cum anyhow. I should just call it a night and let sleep take me.
Dude you fucking pansy. You have one more chance to fuck the hottest girl in Vegas. What the fuck are you thinking!
And these go back and forth in my head as I variously sleep and wake for another hour or so.
Finally, reason prevails and I lean over and kiss her lightly on the cheeks. She stirs but clearly is also super sleepy and considering whether to do it again or not. Well awesome girlfriend that she is, she also makes the right decision and swings her leg over me and gets on top and then rises up to fully clothed cowgirl and starts grinding away. I oblige by pushing my now mostly hard dick firmly against her pussy. OK it's on!
Round two is much like round one. But this time after I DATY for a while, she wants me to fuck her, but I can tell I am not hard enough even tho she's working me by hand. In fact you know when your ball sack is like super droopy and you know you are miles away from cumming? That was me. Mr Floppy Ballsack. So I was super worried.
I think she would have preferred to skip the BJ but I tell her I need a little help by mouth and she cheerfully obliges. Fuck she's good at that and I get good and hard. But Mr Floppy Sack persists and I remain worried about completion (which as you know is a self fulfilling prophecy!
So she rides cowgirl a long time and gets off again -- she always finishes in cowgirl -- then I mount up in Mish and start some rhythmic pounding. I actually try out the Andy move and put a pillow under her butt and fuck on my knees leaning back. I do it waaaay better this time than I did with Alexa and I must say the visual of me driving my dick in and out of this goddess is compelling! Thanks Andy! Plus she is strumming her clit good and enjoying being on the bottom.
Eventually though I feel like I might get soft so I move back into traditional Mish and start a very rhythmic pounding again. She starts doing a lot of dirty talk which I usually find off putting. But instead it's really distracting and sexy in a good way and I start to feel the slow build. WTF?
During all the stream of dirty talk -- "oooh fuck me baby. Just like that. Fuck my tight pussy with your big dick" - she throws in "Fuck me Daddy!" OMG I just about laughed out loud but I love her zest for making an experience authentic!
Again strangely the dirty talk is working and I am using my trick of not focusing on my dick. I'm looking at her lips. And her slight bunny teeth. That tendon in her neck that is straining sexily. And.
Wham. We get it done! I am more surprised than anyone! She's a fucking magician and I tell her so.
Now we snuggle back together all naked and exhausted and start dosing again. No rush! And at some point I feel her rouse and she's taking off her necklaces to the bedside table. She's sleeping over!
And sure enough we cuddle and spoon and sleep till my alarm hits at 6 AM. She just sleeps on.
As I leave, she rouses a bit when I give her a kiss or two and we say goodbye. Wow! What a girl and what a night! To be repeated for sure. It's just a question of when and where.
P.S. Even though I end this report planning to repeat with Krystal after some back and forth she is in the wind. But a year later, I was going to Miami and hit up Alexa "want to spend the weekend in Miami" thinking I'd get a sure WTF? But she was down. Still one of the best weekends of my life. And then I saw her last year in Vegas for three epics nights and 6 bottles of wine! And any time I want I can see her in Vegas -- we are solid. And she's an amazing human to boot. I think the world of her. So Seeking can deliver on so many levels.
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01-24-23 04:09 #4351
Best Sugar Baby Week Ever. One of Two
As I posted my guide earlier this week, I realized I have a somewhat encyclopedic knowledge of the Seeking Game and have truly enjoyed it over the past 4 years. I know some guys come here thinking "what's all this about and is it worth it", so I thought I'd post my best week ever -- just in sheer volume of experiences -- Dec 2019. Its a long read and much longer than the forum posts allow so going to break into two sections about the three different girls I saw in Vegas over a 5 day period.
Welcome to Las Vegas -- Best Sugar Baby Week of My Life (at the time!)
I started looking for girls back three months in advance -- just for something to do. And I snagged Jesse back then. I was texting her pictures of London when I wasn't fucking RoGirls. LOL. Then found Alexa shortly thereafter and Krystal after that. All three were great about staying connected the entire time. We sorted pricing about a month before my visit. So it was just BFGF texting after that.
Remember, SA girls are not hookers -- at least the ones I want to be with. There is a certain amount of game required -- both text game and in-person game. And, since I've had a couple civvy (unpaid) dates that were sex-fails, using my 30 year old pickup game (LOL), I've been reading up on Nampa -- Japanese Street Pickup Game. And I've learned some good stuff which I ended up using particularly with Jesse. Here are some terms you need to know:
Escalating/Kino - Light touching and kissing during the date to establish how receptive she is. I do this naturally anyhow.
Bounce - Take the girl from one location to another, particularly one where u can be close together. And when u bounce to the hotel don't make a big deal about it. Don't discuss. Don't ask. Just go there.
Push and Pull -- When u go for a kiss or a feel and she resists. Just brush it off. Change the subject. Try again in a bit. It will go farther. Eventually u can get her worked up and do the deed.
Persistence -- Don't be deterred if u get shot down. Just take a detour and try again. This concept was so foreign to me. You'd be amazed at the guys that go for a kiss, get shot down three times and end up fucking a half hour later after repeated push pull! WTF? Really. Yep.
LMR - Last minute resistance. Despite a girl going to your room she may get cold feet at the last minute. Push and pull and persistence are key to dealing with this.
Anti-Sl*t Defense (ASD) - No girl wants to feel like a ****. They need to rationalize in their heads that u are special and fucking u on the first date is Ok. U have to help them see this. That is also why in street pickup, you have to isolate her from her friends on an initial open and bounce somewhere else (so she can later go to the hotel privately and not look slutty).
Some guys push it all too far, IMO, but most of the principles are sound. This will be important later particularly with Jesse.
First up is Alexa as my most girlfriendy find. All my girls say Italian is their favorite, so it's three days straight of high-end Italian for me. First up is Il Mulino. Alexa is a bit late but keeps me up to date.
She is REALLY pretty. So petite. A 4-11 intoxicating mix of Black, Filipina and Italian with a wild cascade of soft curly hair. She’s wearing a green tight fitting sweater dress. It shows a nice cleavage -- maybe more than she likes, cuz she adjusts her tits about 20 times during dinner. Works for me! She is really completely unaware of how gorgeous she is.
The dinner is a little weird and awkward but not to the point of being uncomfortable -- it's one of those super fancy places where they keep showing up and grating cheese and doing this and that. It's really a bit much for both of us.
So we bounce to the hotel which of course has lots of bars too. So we could go to either my room or the bar. In the Uber I escalate and take her hand. She takes it with both of hers and rests them on her lap. OK we are golden to go straight to room.
At dinner she didn't hardly touch her Chardonnay but I got a nice sweet Rose and in the room she starts drinking at a high pace. I think she's trying to get up her nerve. Which is good cuz it's a bit of a warm up -- she's definitely new to this. Some really nice kissing at the window looking at the view. She kisses pretty well, but she really likes sucking on my lips and tongue which is unusual but pretty sexy.
We roll about on the bed some and make out (I like the leadup) and realize I forgot to take my Viagra. Damn. I excuse myself to go to the bathroom (and take it.) When I come back, she's taken off her dress and is in a bra and tiny panties (she's a bit shy despite having a perfect body). Nice!
So I know we'll go slow. I start by getting on top of her (fully clothed) and kiss her strongly and work my way down. Lovely B-cup tits and she loves having them sucked. And then I start eating her through her panties and then slide them to the side and dive in. A lovely sweet young girl pussy and she is really enjoying it. I have to laugh though when I start to use a finger and she says "don't put that in there!" It was kinda funny. These are girls not pros and that is a large part of the fun.
It's even funnier when I stand up to take off my pants and she slides over to where I am standing by the bed and says "I'm supposed to do that to you now right?" Hahahaha! Yep babe u are. These babes in the woods!
Actually her BJ is not half bad. I have to show her how to lick and suck and not just jam it in and out and she takes to it well including BLS with no complaints.
So round 1 we have some truly great sex. Mish with lots of kissing. Doggie. Cowgirl. RCG. There is no question she is into it; not just acting. I like this part with the nonpros also.
Despite great sex I don't cum after quite some time. We eventually pull out and she gets back on the BBBJ and I shoot a hot load in her mouth which she takes like a champ. And trots her picture perfect ass to the bathroom to spit. I don't even mind her spitting, cuz the view of her ass heading to the bathroom is spectacular.
So we cuddle for a while. And I really can't recall how we got wound up again. But surely we had been drinking. We nearly killed the whole bottle of wine. And I guess our judgment went out the window. I had taken only a small dose of Viagra and wasn't rock hard. As we are switching to RCG and it's not a perfect slide in she says fuck it and rips off the condom and chucks it and mounts up raw!
Damn. Bareback is unwise, but holy fuck there was no resisting. And it was spectacular. We did a bunch of positions again. Wasn't sure I could cum even with the bareback. When I pulled out of doggie -- BTW her ass is a complete work of art - maybe second finest ass in the world (Fortune can never be beat). And then jacked off some with my thumb in her pussy from behind (guess the wine got her a bit more permissive). So nice. But nope. No jizz.
So she mounts up RCG and really starts fucking me aggressively and it feels great. I can feel the build. I pull out at the last minute and shoot a strong load. Ahhhhhh finally.
And then she sleeps over! This is not a hooker. This is a sweet girl who makes her own decisions and how nice to have her sleeping next to me. In the morning, she asks for an extra hundred since we went farther than planned and she stayed over. I don't have a problem with this. Haven't done bareback in literally 25 years.
She wanted to see me again and I was a little noncommittal which seemed to disappoint her. But I wanted to see my other girls and decide who to repeat. After seeing Jesse, (see below) I decided to repeat with Alexa on Wednesday night and she was stoked. And honestly the more I think back to the optics, I am too!
OK. So day 2 is Jesse day. Jesse is my 20 year old Viet Korean Mexican hottie. From the pics, she was kinda my fave. In person she is pretty, but via lots of make up and eyelashes and hair extensions (she confessed). Alexa is more naturally pretty. But Jesse is still a very pretty girl.
I changed reservations to go to Lago instead of Carbone, which sounded too much like Il Mulino. Lago is spectacular. The view of the Bellagio fountains is amazing and the food is wonderful. It's Italian tapas so we had five plates we shared.
We had a really nice dinner and she is a much more engaging conversationalist than Alexa. And she really appreciates the setting and the food. She gets carded by the waiter, but she can't produce it and they deny her a glass of wine. Kind of a bummer; but I guess an occupational hazard of dating a twenty year old! Hahaha
So with Jesse more so than the others, I start to sense her youngness and perhaps she's not as sophisticated and sexy as she tries to imply. I decide to walk straight to the hotel without really saying where we are going, but surely she knows. I escalate with an arm around from time to time and it's not a cold response but not warm either.
As we enter the hotel I tell her I have a couple wines to choose from in my room and she says OK, so we just rock on up there. It's pretty comfortable but u can tell she is shy -- which is in complete contrast to how she dresses, as she is the sluttiest dresser of the three.
In the room, we admire the view and I can just feel the flow is not right. We start drinking and that probably helps. At one point she sits on the bed, which I take as a good sign and join her. But we really just chat a bit awkwardly. At some point I think fuck it and just go in for a kiss. She responds nicely and is a pretty good kisser. So we do that for a minute or two then stop.
The push and pull (remember Nanpa?) is now ringing in the back of my mind so I initiate again and pull her down to a lying position. And we make out a bit more but it's just not feeling there to move beyond that. But again, in retrospect, this was one more pull in a push pull sequence I was unconsciously executing.
I think we have some more wine but you can feel this awkward feeling that she is not DTF (down to fuck) and so I just meet it head on and say it seems she doesn't have chemistry towards me and it's cool. Sometimes it happens. She is all shy about it and says “I can’t have sex with a guy I just met!” (LMR! ASD!). I say I understand.
At some point I tell her all girls are different and I met a girl in Buenos Aires who took me to a sex club on our second date -- just to let her know that girls her age can be highly sexual. Plus, I am thinking it's not happening, so whatever.
She says "pour me another drink". I think she's getting up her courage. And I say I have a great idea. Let's just make out like high schoolers and we'll do what high schoolers do -- up to but no sex.
And she says OK. In retrospect I see I was subconsciously using push pull and a lot of persistence.
So I pull her up fully on the bed and we are both fully clothed and I start letting her feel my masculine dominance. I am on top and kissing her hard and passionately and grinding my pelvis into hers. I do go really slow like a first timer. I start pulling her shirt up and her bra down and sucking her tits. She LOVES that. She’s starting to grind back. Good sign...
At some point I put her hand on my hard dick through my jeans (also learned this move from the Nampa dudes!). And I feel her pussy thru her jeans and start thinking about getting them off. I am distracted with some more tit work and when I look down again, her jeans are unbuttoned and the zipper down. Looks like an invitation to me!
At some point we turned out one of the other lights and she is down to bra and panties and I am still working her pussy from the outside when she suddenly says "OK we can fuck now. Just turn out the lights."
WTF? Thank you baby Jesus!
I promise this was not all part of an evil plan -- I really did plan to stop short and jack off later. But I realize I subconsciously executed some rocking Nampa moves without knowing it! I always read in disbelief as some guy escalates from a blocked kiss to an SNL (single night lay) and how the girl’s defenses crumble as she gets horny. And goddamn if I didn't just do it!
She is TRULY inexperienced. No BJ. No DATY. Modest attempt to get me hard by hand. But nice sex in all positions. Marked by her checking her phone from time to time as her mother texts. Bwahahaha. She lets me know she only has a half hour. So I am a little concerned especially with no BBBJ warmup. But her pussy feels great (using Trojan Bareskin Magnums which I like) and I pound out a nice shot in Mish shortly after she says "cum for me baby". Woohoo!
Definitely not the best sex ever and not a repeat. But the whole experience was totally fascinating and I am glad I had it. Seeking just remains soooo interesting.
I walk her to her Uber and off she goes. I know she is feeling a little slutty and so I help her ASD a bit by texting her how I appreciate that she can see I am different from other guys and such. Just helps her feel like she made an exception. Seems to work, as I get some thanks and heart emojis back. And she texts me the next day. Just nice touch base stuff. I am sure she'd go again, but there are too many better options.
And now the lovely Krystal. About a week in advance of our date, she sent me a “looking forward to seeing you” message, complete with a video of her fucking herself with a dildo. So I am not expecting the same shrinking violet as Jesse. And sure enough Krystal is a confident wildcat of a girl. OMFG she rocked my world.
So since Krystal was forward enough to send me pictures of her fucking herself, I am not gonna bother with dinner across town and some charade like the room is optional. So I change dinner to the Italian restaurant in my hotel. She’s a bit late but she's in my Uber so I know when she arrives and meet her at the hotel lobby.
Wow. Super pretty girl. She’s straightened her hair and it looks great that way. Tall girl -- 5-6 or better and spike heels. Displaying a ton of chest. Clearly solid C cups. And on the way walking to the restaurant she is chatty and bubbly --- like she knows she's the prettiest girl in the place (and she is!). I pretty much love her from minute one!
We have a really great dinner. Alexa was a bit awkward. Jesse was solid. And Krystal is just absolutely great to hang with. There is no lag in the conversation. We talk about everything including her hot sisters. She doesn't try to put on airs or try to keep things private. Just a chatty bubbly open book.
After dinner we walk back into the main bar and casino area and I offer if she wants to get a drink somewhere or go to the room and she says up to me. So let's go to the room baby! Off we go.
There is no pretense at all with Krystal. It's clear she is DTF from minute one. I pour us some wine (man I am going through the Rose!) and we sit on the edge of the bed. Pretty soon we are both
leaning in and making out. And then she puts her hand on my dick which is hard by now through my jeans and says "I really like your dick". This is a bit of a theme -- She likes to talk dirty which is not really my thing, but it amuses me and she seems to like to do it. And Krystal has the best DFK of the three by far. She's a little hard to figure out, because she definitely has a ton of pro moves about her, but she really is a waitress and trains others and has a real job. Either way it’s great.
So I go take a leak and when I come back she asks if she can too -- sure no problem. And out she comes from the bathroom in a black teddy! Fuck! Well it doesn't take us long to get down to business. She’s got a great set of C cups, kisses wonderfully, and has a sweet and juicy pussy. She does a pretty big amount of what would appear fake moaning and later screaming, but she is super sloppy, so some of it might be real, who knows. She has a tiny clit and she says so. Haha, she is not shy.
After a bit of DATY I stand up and she slides to the edge of the bed and then onto her knees and says "can I suck your cock?" Of course I say NO. Hahaha kidding. She can suck cock for sure. Not as much BLS and licking as I like but she deep throats and is plenty sloppy and vocal -- pretty PSE. At some point she says "will you fuck me baby, I want you to fuck me". While not yet a fan, the dirty talk is growing on me! So I say sure and suit up.
She is soooo sexy when she gets on her back -- those big doe eyes saying fuck me baby and kinda squirming around like she can't get your dick inside her soon enough. I think I'd had a few drinks (and several girls) cuz I don't remember it all. The mish is really good. Lots of DFK and serious pounding and her being very vocal. "oh my god baby just like that. Go slow and deeper. oh my god".
And a screeching build to apparent O. We move to cowgirl at some point and she fucks me really hard and heavy. Back to mish. We go for like 30 minutes plus.
After I cum, we are laying side by side and I go to take the condom off and it’s not there! WTF? I go uh oh baby I seem to have lost something. She doesn't panic at all. She hops up, goes to the bathroom, and comes back bubbly as can be: "Yep, it was just inside. There’s cum in it so we should be good. But if you want I'll get a morning after pill, they cost like $40 if you don't mind paying -- I'll send you a pic of the receipt". And all this in just the bubbliest happy girl voice. Yeah, not too many amateurs fish a condom out of their pussy and quote you the price of Plan B. Hahaha! Who cares I kinda love her!!!
So we just relax comfortably for quite some time, her head on my chest, intertwined. I think we both doze for a bit. At some point, she awakens and her lips are about a foot from my cock and I start getting hard again. And kinda pull her up into DFK and she starts jacking me and we are off to the races again. Some truly great sloppy BJ to start. Some fabulous mish. Doggie. RCG. Loose the condom and do fingering deep while she is on her back and I am mouth fucking her. We get another condom and go for a while. I mean shit it was probably an hour or more of this. And I feel guilty and while she is on her back looking sooooo sexy I say "sorry babe, but sometimes I am hard to finish" and she says "thats OK baby you can fuck me all night if you want!" OMFG and with that look in her eyes. WTF. a fucking goddess.
So we fuck some more and then go for BBBJ in several positions -- finally end with her between my legs and a great climax that she swallows without a second thought. This girl is hot chick dynamite.
We talk about her staying but I have a 7 AM call and she has to get up early to go to work also. So we shower and part ways but make plans to go again.
As it turns out I've already booked a repeat with Alexa for tonight and she is sooooo sweet I hate to cancel, so I book Krystal for Thursday and she is cool with that. So I get to sample a second date with both ladies. But in Krystal, I've found someone I really vibe with to the point that I would fly her to see me on some travel gig. I hate to waste London on her with so much going on there. But maybe if I travel here in the US I'll see if she'll join me. Anyhow, nice to meet someone I dig that much.
So, Seeking has delivered once again! And what a box of life experiences -- ranging from Jesse, where I literally had to seduce her and get her horny to get her to break out the pussy -- to Krystal who is a full on rockstar pornstar sex bunny -- and Alexa right in between, barebacking me in the heat of the moment.
OMG What a bunch of fun sampling three girls in three days! But it’s not over yet…stay tuned for part 2!
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01-23-23 02:24 #4350Awesome report. I think the days of $300, are pretty much gone. You can get some great girls $400-500 range. Originally Posted by Steve9696
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A couple of observations for my month back on on SA in the states. As I said before scans do not seem to be as big as issue as they were a couple of years ago. There are plenty of desperate girls out there, probably way more then before Covid as the recession drags on. Most of the girls drink way too much or smoke way too much dope. It surprises me the number of girls that have no plans to have sex or want a relationship. I just do not believe there is a lot of guys out there that just pay for companionship, without sex, maybe I am wrong?
Girls seem to find a way to make themselves look 20-30 pounds lighter then in reality. They are terrible with there money and just have idea how to budget there funds.
On the brighter side I have connected with 2 girls that I am seeing regularly. Both pot heads, but love sex and like to have fun. So overall a great experience. Way too much work at first, but when you get some regulars it can be an amazing.
As Elvis said SA is so much better in Latin America and Europe, but when I combine Latin America, with a couple of girls in the states, I have the best of both worlds.
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01-23-23 01:32 #4349
Seeking Guide including Opener Tips
I wrote a guide a couple years back. I might tweak a thing here or there now. But I think it's 95% right. Hopefully this will help you and other SA newbies with openers and more. Originally Posted by MarkJJMark22
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So how do you do it properly? I suppose this could vary widely depending on what you are after. But I am after a girl who FEELS like a girlfriend. She's affectionate, appreciates an evening above her usual stature in life, and is able to actually enjoy herself with you. She views the allowance / gift (I. E. Money!) as a bonus. Not the only thing she is after. Any girl where I feel money is the primary motivation and she will go with anyone for a high enough price, gets kicked straight to the curb. She's got to be a girlfriend first, and any "benefits" come second.
Knowing that this is the kind of girl I want to attract (and other guys I have talked to also find this persona the most attractive), there is a set of rules you have to play by. Understand that SA is NOT AT ALL like picking up hookers. It is much more like meeting a girl in a bar and seducing her to leave with you. It's just an online bar. Sure you need money, but you also need some texting game and you need to treat her with respect. If you do, you have a chance of closing the deal. However, the moment you disrespect her, she will be gone.
The most important rule when vibing with a girl and getting a meeting set up is: never discuss sex or money. These things will be implied and they will be done offline. Never discuss sex or money on the Seeking Arrangements platform and really never discuss sex at all. As soon as you are that explicit, the kind of girl you are after will feel disrespected and ghost you in no time flat. Plus, it can get you booted from SA for life if you are reported. Don't worry, there are ways to have this conversation properly, explained below.
Start your engagement with a girl with some light chat and flirt. Your opener should be something specific to her that you read in her profile -- not something generic. And ALWAYS end every message with a question. This prompts her to respond. If you don't ask a question, she will not take the initiative and the conversation will just die. You have to drive it; and you drive with questions. Get her to tell you a few things about herself: what she likes to eat, her favorite wine, dog or cat person. It doesn't really matter what you discuss; just something that will get her to engage a bit.
At some point you will establish that you like each other reasonably well and one or the other will suggest taking the conversation off of SA and over to text. If she goes there in the first few exchanges, she is probably a hooker. If she doesn't ask for a pic pretty early on, she is probably a hooker. Often, I am the one to suggest going over to private phone text. You can keep it pretty innocuous, saying you notice she is not on often and it might be easier to connect up by text. But don't do it too early – this spooks the nice girls. Have a conversation over a few days and then take it off SA to texting.
Once you are texting, pick up the thread you had going and continue a little friendly chat. At some point, you will suggest that you think you vibe well and should meet up. Most often she will agree and now its time to establish that you will have sex (without saying it!) and how much is the agreed price (without saying it's a price! Some guys cover the price discussion in person, but I find that awkward and always set it ahead of time.
Once she's said "yeah, lets meetup" I say I want to describe our date to her (this is how I introduce the sex topic without getting explicit.) I usually say something about going out for dinner or drinks and having an epic time, laughing a lot and if the chemistry is right spending some private time (or intimate time or adult time -- insert your favorite euphemism -- but never say SEX!) or on the off chance we don't vibe, we can part after dinner no harm no foul. And ask if that sounds about right to them. Most often, if they are the kind of girl you are after, they will be down with this description and say, sure that sounds good.
This opens the door for the pricing discussion. I usually say something like "Of course I'the want to give you a gift / allowance. Did you have something in mind?" and the negotiation is underway. Never ever say "what's your price" or "how much do you charge for PPM". Always use the approach above, that you want to give them something. Sometimes, she will say she doesn't know and get you to give the first figure (good negotiating tactic on her part, but often they are in fact new). I am OK with this and say "well, what I've done before is 300. I hope that works for you. " (note no $ sign).
As far as what you should pay, I've found a strong correlation between what a pretty hooker charges for an hour (in a given city) to be what an SA girl will take for an evening. I'the say (pre-pandemic) most big US cities $400 is reasonable for a pretty girl (lots will ask more – I just kick them to the curb) with SF and NYC more like $500. In second tier cities, $300 should do it and I've found a few gems at $200 (though more in the 6-7 category). During the pandemic, I've found a lot of these girls are struggling, so if they ask 500, when 400 is more correct, I usually don't push them on it and just go with what they asked.
Once you have the "we are going to have sex, right" -- without saying it -- and money discussion out of the way, you should be good to go. Just keep on with the flirty texts without being too frequent, clingy or annoying and then meet up at the appointed day and time. More often than not, if you are not terribly objectionable looking, have a little bit of charm, and follow the "let's get out of here" model you might use with a regular pickup, you will end up in the room with your girl and have a rocking time.
Having done this alot (more than 30 times in many different cities), I've found that having sex on the first date is super important. The few times I've had a platonic date (especially a non-alcoholic one) to be followed by sex on the second date – it never happens. You have to take the momentum on that first date and take it all the way to the bedroom. Remember girls are submissive and will largely follow your lead – even if that lead is to the hotel room.
Finally, I should note that how much time you spend with her is largely up to her and how well you vibe. It's not something you negotiate, like you would with a hooker. Most times it will probably be 3-4 hours including dinner and sex, after which she might say she needs to get home. But, in my experience, about 50% of girls sleep over. It's not something you discuss. It just happens. You cuddle after sex and next thing you know she's taking off her necklace to the bedside table. Bingo!
Seeking is absolutely the best, if you take the time to find the gems amongst the bullshit and follow the above guide.
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01-22-23 23:58 #4348When you ask a woman how many sex partners she has had, you can add a 0 to the number, and that gives you a true number. With men, take away a 0 at the end, they are usually braggards and exaggerate the number of women they have bedded. Originally Posted by Gfefan
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01-22-23 21:50 #4347
Good luck
Best luck. BCN is a big market. Start early. Which you have.
Some girls ask exorbitant. I had a few asking me 500 EUR for a dinner only. Ghosted them. Then, some spoke about per hour. Pros. Let them slide away.
Eventually, you find gems.
Also, pay attention to local age of consent. I had a 20 why. O when she showed up, I politely asked to verify her ID. Only then took her to my place.
She has had sex with her BF only few times before she met me. She thought sex lasts only few minutes. When we went at it for 20/30 minutes of pounding, she had many orgasms. And at some point started to beg me for more. She told me she never thought sex can be so good.
Bottomline: there are gems in Europe. Find them. Keep them.
Unlike US, which has more crazy women than I expected, Europe is much better.
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01-22-23 15:28 #4346
Opener
Hi all. I am not getting a lot of responses on SA any advice on what the opener should be? Should it be direct on what am I looking for or should it be more of tinder like opener?
I am bit confused if I should directly opening with asking them what arrangement they're looking for / what I am looking for kr be more flirtatious?
I am going for vacation to Paris and want to use SA. Any advice or experiences?
Thanks for your help.
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01-21-23 19:12 #4345
Hear, hear!
I see you have arrived to the place where I have been for some time now. Sweet mercy of God let it end! LOL! Originally Posted by NeilGeorge
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