Seeking Arrangements

[J Janni]

Enjoy the ride mate, I can understand your situation.

Been thru, done that.

Peace.

Cheers.

This girl is a train crash waiting to happen. But I just can't resist one more ride.

I've spent more on her than any seeking girl I ever thought I would, spent more time with her than I ever thought I would. And I like her more than I ever thought I would.

It isn't just the wild, crazy and unhinged sex. It's everything.

When we first met, she was so freaking shy and nervous despite all the kinky things she told me she was into. She almost bailed on the meeting. She hasn't seen anyone else on seeking (she showed me her seeking inbox, I'm one of the few she actually replied to. Also showed me her WhatsApp, a few conversations going nowhere.).

Super protective of her at this point. She put herself in an extremely vulnerable position with me and it could go so badly if she does the same with someone else. I've been talking to her, trying to help her stay safe. She knows I'm out of here by next week.

I'm just wishing I was a proper sugar daddy. Could take her exclusive and limit the worst excesses of her behaviour.

Kinda just hoping after our last time together, she finds that decent, kind pervert who'll respect her and pay her a huge allowance to spend two days a week chained up in his mansion (she'd love that).

Or even better, she sorts her life out, lives her dreams etc.

Sounds like I'm falling for the girl, but I'm not. I'm not like that. She's just super sweet (like how can a girl who likes getting whipped and begs you to cum in inside her be this adorable? Intelligent, funny (only a 13 year age gap and I'm a man child, so we're on the same wave length) and we've been having the wildest and kinkiest sex of my life that she is super into.

Either way, I'm out of here. She's not just bad for me despite all that, I'm bad for her too I think. She's the Sid to my Nancy or vice versa.

Seeing her one last time and then I'm putting 8000 miles between us for a couple of months.

[Alex7J]

So like most things that start in SA there is and probably should be a clear end. I believe I just got to the end with my Nicaraguan SA girl. We spent one last weekend together in Nicaragua in my trip last week. We ended up having an entire colonial house in Granada to ourselves for 2 nights and days including a pool. I only paid for one room in the house but such is Nicaragua right now. I brought her some nice brand clothing from the states that I have access to for really low prices. I left the original full price tags on if course. She loved them and the thought behind them even though I messed up one of the sizes because I just forgot how tiny her waist is.

It was a great weekend. We pretty much swam and made out in the pool, tried out some great restaurants, talked and shagged all weekend. 6 sessions in all. We are comfortable with each other, maybe a little too comfortable which why as much as I like her I am kind of glad we have hit the natural end. By the time I return to Nicaragua she is likely to have moved back to Switzerland and the probability we are in the same city or near enough to see each other again is small. We both know this and have exchanged WhatsApps wishing each other well and grateful for the times we were able to spend together. I will remember her fondly. Willing to out up with my bad but improving Spanish..

Nicaragua is paradise, one of the best and easiest places for SA.

Peace.

Cheers.

[GoingDumb]

My second month on seeking just expired so thought I'the share my experiences so far. My goal was to find a consistent arrangement but I haven't found it yet.

Girl 1: The semi pro. This was a mistake but I got suckered by her pictures because she had a huge rack. She was older than 30, messaged me first and was very direct ie what are you looking for, asked about allowance quickly. When we got to the room, she came prepared with condoms and lube. I didn't find her attractive without her clothes on and didn't fuck her. After this, I only looked for younger girls and avoided ones that messaged first.

Girl 2: The only girl I've seen more than once. She was going back to school so not a pro but liked to party and do drugs. I covered the first meet in http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/...890&viewfull=1#post2675890. Second meet was lackluster. No DFK, she was basically a star fish but at least this time I fucked her.

Girl 3: I wanted this one to become consistent but she's flaked multiple times so pretty sure it's over. This was my first really good SA experience. http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/...ents&p=2681866#post2681866. We'the both been tested and she was ok with CIP. Really sexual too which I haven't found with other girls yet. In between 2 and 3, I got a rx for V which I took for the first time with 3. It definitely helped and is especially helpful for me with condoms.

Girl 4: Not a pro but probably a coke working girl. This one kind of fucked me up, you can find the post if you're interested. Agreed to meet same night for a drink before coming back to hotel. It was the first time I had period sex. Felt bad about fucking her after but recently got a text saying she'the been under the weather because she'the done too much drugs. Probably should've passed and glad I used a condom but sex was fun and enthusiastic.

Girl 5: This was kind of a desperation fuck since 2 cancelled on me again. Only girl I met at the hotel. Porn star looking photos and very escort-why sex. No DFK, straight to fucking, only one I didn't finger. Fake tits, but nicely done. Had an only fans too. Lesson from 1 and 5: if the photos look too good to be true, they probably are. Pornstar look isn't for me.

Girl 6: Nice and to the point. Met up for coffee then to the hotel. First time using day use and worked well. She asked before the meet if it was just coffee or intimacy as well which I appreciated. Think she'the be open to a regular arrangement but not sure I liked her that much. Really good head though.

I met 5 girls for platonic meets. Two of them I weren't really into, one had high expectations and one I'm hoping turns into something regular.

It is frustrating how much time it takes. I'll have what seems like a good conversation going, get a number then poof vs a girl who gives one word answers down to meet up. I haven't decided if I'll renew for another month but happened to get 3 messages the day it expired. Maybe if the one turns into something regular I'll forget all about seeking.

[Alex7J]

She's heavily into bondage and pain. As it turns out, I am too with her.

She responds to it orgasmically. A total pleasure response, like a mini orgasm. She is a quite adorable and we'll spoken little teen that loves to be abused and degraded and treated like your little fuck toy.

Just far too much debauchery to go into a blow by blow. At one point, I had her dressed up in a little skirt, crotchless panties, a ballgag and blindfold, tied down. And she let me invite a friend over to walk in and fuck her.

I'm not even sure that's the kinkiest thing we've done.

If I saw someone else posting this, I would call bullshit. I wish it was. She's bad for me and I have to stop seeing her.

Enjoy the ride mate, I can understand your situation.

Been thru, done that.

Peace.

Cheers.

[J Janni]

Tell us more! What kind of debauchery?

She's heavily into bondage and pain. As it turns out, I am too with her.

She responds to it orgasmically. A total pleasure response, like a mini orgasm. She is a quite adorable and we'll spoken little teen that loves to be abused and degraded and treated like your little fuck toy.

Just far too much debauchery to go into a blow by blow. At one point, I had her dressed up in a little skirt, crotchless panties, a ballgag and blindfold, tied down. And she let me invite a friend over to walk in and fuck her.

I'm not even sure that's the kinkiest thing we've done.

If I saw someone else posting this, I would call bullshit. I wish it was. She's bad for me and I have to stop seeing her.

[WyattEarp]

SA itself has changed. They used to have FWB as one of the "seeking" metrics. They removed it now and replaced with luxury, etc. 4 to 5 years ago..........

And of course, FwB was synonymous with sex but they removed that also from their tags.

Interesting historical background on Seeking.

What is your take on "No Strings Attached" and "Discretion"? These Seeking descriptors seem sexually provocative. Obviously, FWB spells it out clearly.

There also the many attractive, young women posing in skimpy bikinis. That certainly confuses a few newbies, but these girls have to distinguish themselves one way or another. Attractive girls have to flaunt it particularly if they want a long-term sugar daddy.

[SonicBoom1]

Just had the SB I posted about earlier over for what turned out to be 43 hours (Thursday afternoon to Saturday morning) of utter debauchery (some, but not enough sleep).

In what world is it possible for me to spend that amount of time with a fit, athletic, beautiful, clever, enthralling combination of innocence and sluttiness, submissive and kinky as fuck 19 year old girl?

She's ruined normal sex for me. And presented me with a problem. I really want to spend the rest of my leave just seeing how far I can push her. And we've gone plenty fat already!

Tell us more! What kind of debauchery?

[Gfefan]

I agree. SBs spoil us so much that normal sex with regular partners, particularly wife, is ruined.

Just had the SB I posted about earlier over for what turned out to be 43 hours (Thursday afternoon to Saturday morning) of utter debauchery (some, but not enough sleep).

In what world is it possible for me to spend that amount of time with a fit, athletic, beautiful, clever, enthralling combination of innocence and sluttiness, submissive and kinky as fuck 19 year old girl?

She's ruined normal sex for me. And presented me with a problem. I really want to spend the rest of my leave just seeing how far I can push her. And we've gone plenty fat already!

[J Janni]

Just had the SB I posted about earlier over for what turned out to be 43 hours (Thursday afternoon to Saturday morning) of utter debauchery (some, but not enough sleep).

In what world is it possible for me to spend that amount of time with a fit, athletic, beautiful, clever, enthralling combination of innocence and sluttiness, submissive and kinky as fuck 19 year old girl?

She's ruined normal sex for me. And presented me with a problem. I really want to spend the rest of my leave just seeing how far I can push her. And we've gone plenty fat already!

[Ggekko2009]

One thing a lot of guys don't realize is that discussing PPM arrangements is against the actual written rules of the site. It's considered to be prima facie evidence of an intent to solicit prostitution. That said, lots of people get away with mentioning it on the site (I did for three months), and especially the SBs. ...

Last night when chatting with this one girl, I told here in verbatim, Are you interested in an arrangement? We can discuss over text if you are.

She wrote back a whole bunch of text, and then finally mentioned 0 drama, 500 ppm and so on all in one sentence.

I thought for a while this could be a flagged because of the keyword. Not sure if the whole bunch of text that she wrote earlier masked the conversation that the bot had failed to pick that up. I decided to risk it and gave her my number and told her to connect. Anyway, so far so good.

I wonder if both parties could be flagged even though if I never mention anything about a ppm or a figure? I hope the word "arrangement" is not a problematic keyword, otherwise it will be so idiotic. In most cases, I would try to get our conversation off-site as soon as I can by either asking for her number or just giving her mine. My number is a disposable google number anyway.

[Pessimist]

One thing a lot of guys don't realize is that discussing PPM arrangements is against the actual written rules of the site. It's considered to be prima facie evidence of an intent to solicit prostitution. That said, lots of people get away with mentioning it on the site (I did for three months), and especially the SBs. But run into the wrong girl who wants to make life difficult for you, and she might try to get you busted and kicked off the site for talking about PPM. I ran into one where I thought that might happen. She was mad that I asked her about PPM, and responded by angrily sending me a message that included a cut and paste of the written site rule prohibiting any mention of PPM arrangements. I just told her that we obviously weren't seeking the same thing, blocked her, then waited to see if I would be banned. After a few days of waiting with nothing happening, I was confident I was in the clear. I would have been pissed if I had gotten banned since I still had a month left on the membership I paid for. So, based on my three-month experience, I would say that you're likely OK to mention PPM arrangements. But as others here have warned, don't go too far beyond that getting into specifics on the site, as that could get you banned. Move to text off of the site to go there.

This is accurate.

Definitely not advisable to use PPM in site messages or even offsite.

SA itself has changed. They used to have FWB as one of the "seeking" metrics. They removed it now and replaced with luxury, etc. 4 to 5 years ago, they even had dollar numbers attached to the brackets, such as "less than $2,000 a month, between 2 K to 5 K, more than 10 K etc."

They have become a lot more circumspect now. When they have a golden goose producing so much cashflow, they'd be stupid to jeopardize and risking a shutdown ala backpage etc.

And of course, FwB was synonymous with sex but they removed that also from their tags. You used to be search through girls lists with "white, slim, less than 25, tall, seeking FWB and at $2 K month"; those days are gone.

I was foolish enough to use FWB a few times early on. Then quickly I cut it out. Now I always say "let us meet and get to know each other and spend some no drama stress free time." Eventually they understand my intent. When and if any girl explicitly mentions sex in a message, on SA or off site texting, I normally block her or delete the message and cool it with her for a few weeks.

As for PPM, I get around it by saying "I give weekly allowance and prefer to meet once a week." Of course, if the first meet doesn't go well, there are no follow up meets. They understand that too.

Honestly, I was never concerned about SA kicking me out. Perhaps I was there for so long and became complacent. I am much more careful about LE. No point in saying things in writing that would not look good in a court. Keep it bland, and say whatever you have to say in person, one to one.

[Bdb013]

I paid my premium two weeks ago and yesterday got permanently suspended. The only trigger l can recall is A girl says 5000 peso per appointment and l say something back. So you guys just block that girl in this scenario? Do you guys get the girl WhatsApp or telegram right off the bat and not even small chitchat? I created two unpaid account using random outlook account and both of them got banned within 3 minutes.

Any SA alternative recommend for country like Mexico, Colombia?

Thanks for the help.

Never discuss money or sex on SA. Always get their text number and take it offline. I have used Colombian cupid in the past in Colombia. It worked well, but that was several years ago.

[The Cane]

Some girls will ask you on SA. I prefer to do it over text, ask if they're ok with ppm then give an amount. I'd rather know sooner they're expecting $1500 for ppm before wasting my time meeting them. I was recently told by a 38 yo she gets over 1 k a meet. I couldn't believe that but I don't doubt her. She asked me what I had in mind for allowance before we switched to text.

One thing a lot of guys don't realize is that discussing PPM arrangements is against the actual written rules of the site. It's considered to be prima facie evidence of an intent to solicit prostitution. That said, lots of people get away with mentioning it on the site (I did for three months), and especially the SBs. But run into the wrong girl who wants to make life difficult for you, and she might try to get you busted and kicked off the site for talking about PPM. I ran into one where I thought that might happen. She was mad that I asked her about PPM, and responded by angrily sending me a message that included a cut and paste of the written site rule prohibiting any mention of PPM arrangements. I just told her that we obviously weren't seeking the same thing, blocked her, then waited to see if I would be banned. After a few days of waiting with nothing happening, I was confident I was in the clear. I would have been pissed if I had gotten banned since I still had a month left on the membership I paid for. So, based on my three-month experience, I would say that you're likely OK to mention PPM arrangements. But as others here have warned, don't go too far beyond that getting into specifics on the site, as that could get you banned. Move to text off of the site to go there.

[Maha Siddha]

I paid my premium two weeks ago and yesterday got permanently suspended. The only trigger l can recall is A girl says 5000 peso per appointment and l say something back. So you guys just block that girl in this scenario? Do you guys get the girl WhatsApp or telegram right off the bat and not even small chitchat? I created two unpaid account using random outlook account and both of them got banned within 3 minutes.

Any SA alternative recommend for country like Mexico, Colombia?

Thanks for the help.

[AsianPursuits]

But to be honest, it is rare to find an SB that can host or is willing to host.

In my town any girl under 30 has not hosted. They are either students or early stage workers in share accom. 30+ divorced or professional established career girls are more confident to host.

FYI on my profile I say that I will host but I never do (I can't). I find that this offer is enough to pass a girls 'sniff' test as to why I would be reluctant to host. So my ostensible offer to host unlocks hosting opportunities.