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  1. #1105

    Yes Very Much That

    Quote Originally Posted by Midwestern  [View Original Post]
    Steve: Excellent FR! But have I have a question if you don't mind.

    Let's say that you normally give $225 for a PPM that lasts a few hours. If it's an overnight, then maybe you add a little extra, like maybe bump the amount up to $300. But if you ask them to fly somewhere to meet you, then what do you give them besides reimbursing their travel cost? For example, I assume Alexa was a PPM. But when you asked her to fly somewhere to meet you, what kind of math did you do to calculate her gift? For me, I add 50% to the overnight rate, to compensate for her travel time and for her daytimes. So, if I ask someone to fly to meet me, and it's for 3 days and 2 nights, then I count this as 2. 5 overnights (the average of 3 days and 2 nights) and so if I usually give $300 for overnight, then I will pay her $300 x 1. 5 x 2. 5, which equals $1,125.

    BTW, if I am wrong that Alexa was a PPM or that you had to give her a gift to meet you, then I apologize for making these presumptions.
    So again, I haven't done this a lot but generally agree with your math with one exception. During my regular travels I don't generally pay more for overnight because I don't ever negotiate that ahead of time. If she decides to stay it's her choice. I might slip in a bit extra but that's just a spur of the moment call.

    One of the main considerations is the surrounding market. Because if I have great alternatives then it's hard to push the PPM much beyond that, since I have the airfare also. I think she clearly wanted to be there. Because we agreed a straight up 2 xPPM for 2 days and three nights. (I gave her $200 extra in the end cuz we had such a magical time). You got to remember if you are doing a "destination" fly that is super exciting to a lot of these girls who would never be able to do that on their own. She was THRILLED to swim in the ocean for the first time. And Thifany was like a school girl in London for the first time. It's win win.

  2. #1104

    How to convert PPM amount to pay-for-trip amount?

    Steve: Excellent FR! But have I have a question if you don't mind.

    Let's say that you normally give $225 for a PPM that lasts a few hours. If it's an overnight, then maybe you add a little extra, like maybe bump the amount up to $300. But if you ask them to fly somewhere to meet you, then what do you give them besides reimbursing their travel cost? For example, I assume Alexa was a PPM. But when you asked her to fly somewhere to meet you, what kind of math did you do to calculate her gift? For me, I add 50% to the overnight rate, to compensate for her travel time and for her daytimes. So, if I ask someone to fly to meet me, and it's for 3 days and 2 nights, then I count this as 2. 5 overnights (the average of 3 days and 2 nights) and so if I usually give $300 for overnight, then I will pay her $300 x 1. 5 x 2. 5, which equals $1,125.

    BTW, if I am wrong that Alexa was a PPM or that you had to give her a gift to meet you, then I apologize for making these presumptions.

  3. #1103
    Quote Originally Posted by Steve9696  [View Original Post]
    I flew in Friday afternoon and then Alexa flew in late Friday. I was a little worried she got cold feet but she came bopping off the plane in her tight black jeans and looked awesome. Alexa actually needs no makeup. But she has a bit of eyeshadow and lipstick and she looks great.


    OMG could I have had more fun (there was plenty more non-sex fun)? Nope. It was amazing. Moral of the story? SA rules. Having a real girlfriend in all ways for the weekend just can't be replicated. It's the best!

    I highly recommend repeating like this and flying a girl. I've only done it twice (Thifany and Alex) but both times sooo worth it.
    Di you give her anything besides paying for her ticket and all the expenses?

  4. #1102

    Epic SA Trip

    I flew in Friday afternoon and then Alexa flew in late Friday. I was a little worried she got cold feet but she came bopping off the plane in her tight black jeans and looked awesome. Alexa actually needs no makeup. But she has a bit of eyeshadow and lipstick and she looks great.

    We head back to the hotel which is luxe and has an epic ocean view and a large glass balcony. Frankly this should be part of SB also I want her to feel special throughout our weekend together.

    I was a bit worried that she might claim "too tired" it's 11 PM now but nope we break out a bottle of nice Rose I had chilling in the fridge and we fall right into it. Just magical to kiss her again and we are very comfortable in bed together.

    We kill the entire bottle and I can't remember all the details. I remember her BJ is really good. And we get into some AMAZING 69. Her pussy is absolutely incredible and tasty. And the whole 69 thing just totally works for me. I can see her picture perfect ass in my peripheral vision and it makes me hard as a brick.

    When we decide to suit up, Most girls like to start cowgirl. She says nope let's go to mish our joint favorite. We go at it this way a long time I love kissing her while pounding away. Nothing beats mish kissing. We do some RCG and doggie but eventually return to BJ where I bless her with a hot load which she takes CIM and trots off to spit.

    We then snuggle and fall asleep. Guys, this is SA at its finest. Your best girl in the crook of your arm falling asleep on your shoulder. This just blows hourly escorting away in my book.

    Saturday morning we wake up late and go to brunch. Beachside dining with more sushi than we can eat (again treat her like a princess). It's so fun to be a couple.

    I have some commitments that day so I return about 5 PM and am headed for the most epic date of my life. When I return she was napping. I nap cuddled a bit then tried to get her interested in sex but she was just kinda deflecting. (Remember she's not a hooker!

    Earlier she told me she brought her vibrator. So in a sudden flash of brilliance I say "when we going to break out that vibrator" and she says in a few minutes! So more wine is poured and we break that monster out.

    It's one of those big ones and she just uses it on her clit. I think I forgot to mention she has the most beautiful pussy on earth. Like a literal ten. We were talking about it and she thinks one of the lips is a little too big. Haha. It's not. OMG it is gorgeous and feels so good inside too. Fingering her is epic. The most beautiful pussy feel inside ever.

    We started with me fingering her while she worked herself. She was really good about edging. Because she said if she came it would be all over and so she would keep backing it off when she reached the edge. So we could both have fun.

    I maneuvered around to get my dick in her mouth and she really liked that. So FIV and vibrator and BJ. It was great for both of us. She was giving a really good BJ. You could tell having the dick in her mouth was heightening the experience. She actually said "don't cum too soon" because she wanted that hard dick. Really awesome.

    We had noticed yesterday that the balcony across from ours about 15 feet outside our window a lady had come out earlier that day. So we had been doing all this with the curtains wide open just for fun! So we switched it up to doggie so she could vibrate her clit while I fuck her from behind. I said here let's face the window to give them a show and she was game!

    Eventually we switch back to her vibing herself (on her back - she needs to focus actually) so she can get off. Previously I'the kneeled at the side of her head and she took me in her mouth turning her head sideways. This time I straddled her and was able to slowly mouth fuck her while she built her O. I could tell she was getting close because her moans (dick in mouth) were increasing and her BJ was getting a little toothy as she was lost to the world. I didn't mind. I just let her build and wow. She had a shattering one. She had to pull my dick out of her mouth to cry out. It was epic.

    A little rest and I started getting a bit softer so she had to work me back up. Her BJ is quite good and will get better later that night. Takes a nice load of CIM and trots off to spit. But this is far from the end of the night.

    Guess it's about 7 now. And we make dinner reservatONS for 8 pm. About a five min walk. We have a lovely dinner with Japanese / Korean fusion tapas and Pinot Grigio. She is wearing an LBD and heels and a sparkle mask she looks hot as fuck.

    She's always self deprecating but not in a false way. She is not confident about her looks, which is hilarious because she is drop dead gorgeous. OMG. I literally can only find one thing to change and that would be take 1 lb off her waist. That's it. Perfect ass. Second best worldwide in my entire girl-history. That is lofty. Perfect pussy. A ten no lie. Lovely 34 B tits. Face to die for. Long naturally curly ringlets. Fuck I am a lucky man.

    At dinner we have a really nice time. This is not a transaction. There is true affection exchanged both ways. This is the real deal.

    Our first night I had struck up a conversation with a Russian pedicab driver and he gave me his card. So I rang him up from dinner and he met us at the bottom of the stairs from the restaurant. We hop in and ask him to take us to a liquor store but take his time. So we moonlight ride (full moon on the water) along the beach about a mile to the store. We pick up a bottle of Pinot Grigio and some small filtered cigars.

    He's got the Led Zeppelin cranked up. As he drives us back towards the hotel we are swigging from the bottle and smoking our cigs. You may recall I did this in London with Thifany and then the Columbianas. It is so fucking fun!

    So we have him drop us at the beach across from the hotel. There is a lifeguard stand there so we take off our shoes and put them on there and go walking down the beach. Still swigging and smoking. Back to the lifeguard stand we climb up and sit side by side killing the bottle in the moonlight. Every few minutes I take her chin and pull her towards me and kissing for a minute or so. Very sexy and romantic. She likes to suck on my lips and tongue which is unique but I rather like it.

    Eventually we kill the bottle and decide to head back to the room for what will turn into a very comfortable sexual marathon (2 hrs of nonstop sex). We open a bottle of Moscato from the fridge and pour a couple glasses. We are both totally buzzing so when I suggest we go out and fuck on the balcony she is totally down.

    We start out slow in our undies. Her on my lap drinking and smoking on the patio chair. At some point we are standing up and I say "I'm getting rid of these" indicating my undies. And says me too! So we are now totally naked on the glass balcony. Me and my girl.

    I sit down and she starts giving me an absolutely fabulous blowjob. I could go forever I'm so drunk. About 5 minutes in she asks what makes a good blowjob and I tell her variety and show her how to turn her head sideways and slide her lips up and down the underside. That mixed with BLS and full on sucking in and out and it's heavenly.

    At some point this turns into a fun conversation while getting blown. She is asking me about when I lost my virginity or my craziest sexual experience. It really makes it go on forever as we chat amiably while she blows the fuck out of me.

    After maybe a half hour of this (no joke) we swap it around and I work on her. She slouches way down in the chair so her pussy is near the edge and pulls her legs up spread wide and I dive in. In addition to the DATY the fingering is epic. Her pussy feels as beautiful as it looks.

    Somehow we end up back in the room for the finish. It's all a bit foggy. I remember fucking her good in the modified mish where she has a pillow under her but and you have one of her legs up in the air between yours. We did legs on shoulders. And who knows what else. Went to regular mish to kiss passionately and pound out a shattering second cumming after maybe ten minutes of kiss fucking mish. Wow.

    I remember absolutely zero after that. Must have crashed like a big dog. One of the best or maybe the best date of my life.

    Rinse and repeat Sunday well we didn't go two rounds. We were both bushed and napped till about 7 PM (again I was tied up during the day). We decided for a simple dinner at the hotel but again the wine and sushi plus steak was epic. We really get along well.

    Back in the room it's Moscato again and more epic sex. We have become so comfortable making each other happy. The 69 is epic again I can still almost taste how beautiful it tastes when I push my tongue inside. She again asks for BJ pointers and I really get explicit on exactly what to do and how to mix it up. She takes to it like a fish to water. And wow. Literally one of the top BJs I've ever had. I remember an epic 10 minutes on the edge with Noleta in London. This is very very close to that. I am so close for so long and wow the final explosion is life changing. Of course we cuddle it out and sleep like logs.

    OMG could I have had more fun (there was plenty more non-sex fun)? Nope. It was amazing. Moral of the story? SA rules. Having a real girlfriend in all ways for the weekend just can't be replicated. It's the best!

    I highly recommend repeating like this and flying a girl. I've only done it twice (Thifany and Alex) but both times sooo worth it.

  5. #1101

    Rekindling

    A few posters have talked about the rekindle and keeping in touch with past SBs. It seems that once the girl has accepted us once for se, that kind of still counts when the girl has moved into a new relationship also.

    I'm 55+ and about a year ago I had a wonderful with a genuine non-pro SB, 32 ish, professional job, in a happy sex-less domestic situation.

    So a day in bed with me was a great treat for her. We got on really well. We did exchange a few messages through the year since then, birthday, Christmas wishes. In October I suggested we should meet again to which she initially agreed, then the following day she said "the temptation's too great, I'm better not to risk anything anymore and for our better good I'm going to block you." And that was that. What a waste of an amazing clean pussy and lovely enhanced breast.

    Meanwhile, just have to move on to the other 100 options in my area.

  6. #1100

    Agree

    Quote Originally Posted by Pessimist  [View Original Post]
    Fantastic report, JackOfNone!

    Well done!
    At JackOfNone, excellent report, and I agree "well done!" Also, a bonus was that I got to learn a little bit about the Lisbon scene, so that was cool. Thanks.

  7. #1099
    Fantastic report, JackOfNone!

    Well done!

  8. #1098

    Please Post

    Quote Originally Posted by JackOfNone  [View Original Post]
    So finally was able to do the SA week in Lisbon and it was a pretty successful one after all the very helpful pointers from the experienced guys in this thread. FR posted in the Lisbon thread if anyone is interested.
    Please post here also. We'the love to have all SA content in one place plus we all need a good FR these days. I'll post a more detailed Alexa FR soon.

  9. #1097

    Seeking and Stay in Touch

    So as I said I like to keep in touch with girls afterward and hope to rekindle when opportunity strikes. Well opportunity struck hard when I pinged Alexa who I met on SA a year ago and enjoyed in person twice in December. I said "want to meet me in xxxx" (a four hour flight for her) and she said sure! With in two hours I sent her money for a ticket and she had booked it.

    After I arrived at the destination her flight was later that night. I know her well enough to know she would never scam me, but she could get cold feet of course. Nope. She arrived looking hot in some tight black jeans. We had great late night sex while killing a bottle of wine. Then just an amazing weekend together. Brunch, sushi, tons of wine, pedicab rides, romantic dinners out, moonlight strolls and AMAZING sex — including a top three BBBJ and two hours of nonstop sex on the balcony. LOL.

    She's a legit petite 9 with an amazing ass, perky 34 BS, and the most beautiful pussy on planet earth. I really can't believe I got to enjoy her for a full long weekend. These are the times where:

    1. Seeking rules.

    2. Keeping in touch rewards you.

    3. There are REAL non pro girls out there who you can develop a lovely relationship with. Knowing it's NSA and $$ to bridge the age gap but feels totally real.

    Couldn't be happier right now.

  10. #1096

    SA in BA (Buenos Aires)

    Has anyone had a success with SA girls in Buenos Aires? What is the typical rate for an overnight (or 6-8 hrs) date? It looks like argentine peso is at all time lows vs USD right now, so you can get a great bang for your buck once the country opens up. Planning a trip soon. I'm new to SA, only used it once in CDMX last summer, it wasn't easy in the beginning, but once I learned how it works I had plenty of great dates.

    I could not find any relevant info in BA thread, there is pretty much zero activity there (due to COVID?

  11. #1095
    Quote Originally Posted by Midwestern  [View Original Post]
    You had 4 girls in one day?! That's awesome. I was trying to schedule 4 for just this entire week, but I could not pull it off. One gal got sick. Another is a flake who only shows up about 15% of the time to begin with. And another is a dumdum that messed up our plans. Luckily, I met my main arrangement on Monday, and we spent about four hours under the sheets, one hour at lunch, and one hour just goofing around outside. This gal is not a big fan of screwing for hours, but her monthly allowance was given to her on Monday, and that greased the wheels, if you know what I mean.
    Yes, it was a good day. I also got some work done. I thought you might be more impressed getting the girls past security.

  12. #1094

    you had 4 in one day?!

    Quote Originally Posted by DramaFree11  [View Original Post]
    Here is my Tuesday in MTY, all but one of the girls I met is from SA. I set up a Threesome. One of the girls is from SA and the other is from one of the agency's I us in MTY. I take both girls separately through the parking garage entrance so security does not say anything. Works perfectly. One hour of fun, this was at 10 am. I meet my model girlfriend at 1:15, we have coffee and then have a great session. She was also over Wednesday night and had anal / toy show. At 4 pm I check out of my Condo and check into a hotel. I do not want to push my luck at the condo I stay at, I try to be somewhat respectable. I meet with a super hot lawyer, again a great session. SA is working so well in MTY. Love it.
    You had 4 girls in one day?! That's awesome. I was trying to schedule 4 for just this entire week, but I could not pull it off. One gal got sick. Another is a flake who only shows up about 15% of the time to begin with. And another is a dumdum that messed up our plans. Luckily, I met my main arrangement on Monday, and we spent about four hours under the sheets, one hour at lunch, and one hour just goofing around outside. This gal is not a big fan of screwing for hours, but her monthly allowance was given to her on Monday, and that greased the wheels, if you know what I mean.

  13. #1093

    I love SA

    Here is my Tuesday in MTY, all but one of the girls I met is from SA. I set up a Threesome. One of the girls is from SA and the other is from one of the agency's I us in MTY. I take both girls separately through the parking garage entrance so security does not say anything. Works perfectly. One hour of fun, this was at 10 am. I meet my model girlfriend at 1:15, we have coffee and then have a great session. She was also over Wednesday night and had anal / toy show. At 4 pm I check out of my Condo and check into a hotel. I do not want to push my luck at the condo I stay at, I try to be somewhat respectable. I meet with a super hot lawyer, again a great session. SA is working so well in MTY. Love it.

  14. #1092

    This is SCAM!

    Quote Originally Posted by Travel902  [View Original Post]
    I received a Hello message from a Hong Kong girl about a month ago. We have been chatting on Whatsapp almost daily since then but when I wanted to videochat she refused. She seems to be financially independent and according to her, she is just looking for a genuine relationship. She never mentioned any allowance. Different from other foreign girls, she never asked me for $ for an "online relationship" arrangement.

    Now she wants to teach me how to do F / X trading. I'm not sure what she is after but I may just go along to see what will happen.
    She will take some time to gain your trust.

    She will declare that she is financially independent, and quite successful actually!

    She will probably never video-call you.

    But:

    -At one point, she (or he) will try to have you invest in f / x, diamonds or any investments with great, great return.

    -This is 100% SCAM, just a new variation, out for about 2 or 3 years.

  15. #1091
    Quote Originally Posted by DiverOyster  [View Original Post]
    I recall reading someone's posts in the past about chatting with some Chinese girls who claim they are successful at F / X trading. I was looking for those posts but I couldn't find them.

    I received a Hello message from a Hong Kong girl about a month ago. We have been chatting on Whatsapp almost daily since then but when I wanted to videochat she refused. She seems to be financially independent and according to her, she is just looking for a genuine relationship. She never mentioned any allowance. Different from other foreign girls, she never asked me for $ for an "online relationship" arrangement.

    Now she wants to teach me how to do F / X trading. I'm not sure what she is after but I may just go along to see what will happen.
    I experienced the same type of message from a Hong Kong girl in April and we chatted for a few months. She wanted me to invest in currency trading and was willing to teach me. She said that she had an uncle in the banking business and she will get tips from her uncle as to what to buy and when to purchase. We chatted on WhatsApp, she originally had a Hong Kong number but then strangely it changed to a Malaysian number. That throughout warning bells to me. She would also not allow any FaceTime.

    I finally told her that I was not interested in investing and making money, I had enough money and now it was time to spend. She abruptly ended our conversations! I contacted her just the other day after six weeks of silence, the bottom line was she wanted me to invest.

    I had another experience with a Hong Kong girl who contacted me. Basically it was the same M O, only she was in the gold trading. When I told her I was not interested in investing she also abruptly ended the conversation.

    Both women were friendly and started with a very soft sell job, stating how rich they were and wanted to travel with me through China.

    DiverOyster.

    I recall reading someone's posts in the past about chatting with some Chinese girls who claim they are successful at F / X trading. I was looking for those posts but I couldn't find them.

    I received a Hello message from a Hong Kong girl about a month ago. We have been chatting on Whatsapp almost daily since then but when I wanted to videochat she refused. She seems to be financially independent and according to her, she is just looking for a genuine relationship. She never mentioned any allowance. Different from other foreign girls, she never asked me for $ for an "online relationship" arrangement.

    Now she wants to teach me how to do F / X trading. I'm not sure what she is after but I may just go along to see what will happen.

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