Seeking Arrangements

[WyattEarp]

You're not just talking about "women". You're talking about a "specific subset of women" (strippers and prostitutes) where money is going to overrule almost everything else. That's not what I'm talking about. I'm talking about women who are looking for meaningful, serious relationships. In those circumstances, women can be just as shallow as men in terms of who they give a chance too (physical attraction being the key).

I think what The Cane is saying is that with certain women the more money we have the better looking we get. LOL.

[WyattEarp]

It's not like the FKKs don't have robust discussions in their own threads.

[DramaFree11]

This girl texted me today that she got married and she can longer fuck me.

Sad but weirdly happy for her. No idea why.

We stay in touch but I got to be very discrete. Sex is off the table and she says money is off the table as well.

Experiencing this phase of sugar dating for first time.

I got the sane message from the model and I kind of had the same feelings as you did. We had become more friends then anything else.

I have to agree with Elvis we probably would have never met if Covid would not have happened. The minute restrictions were eliminated she changed and moved on.

She is hooking up with a guy from Europe. He is half my age and way better looking.

Time to move on and find something better, I never really ever stopped looking and hooking up with other girls, because I knew this day would come sooner or later.

[Gfefan]

This girl texted me today that she got married and she can longer fuck me.

Sad but weirdly happy for her. No idea why.

We stay in touch but I got to be very discrete. Sex is off the table and she says money is off the table as well.

Experiencing this phase of sugar dating for first time.

For me, this has to be Miss J. She lives about a couple of hours away from me. But never says no. If I feel like having a good fuck, and tell her to get her ass (well, pussy) to me, she does.

Once I told her at 3 PM and she was kissing me at my personal bar at 7 PM. I had not even started to fondle her, but when I slipped my fingers down there after a few kisses, she was soaking wet. Pulled it down, unzipped and I was inside her in like 30 secs. We went on to fuck 3 times just that night. And 3 more next morning before she left at 11 AM.

We would have a 45 min session in bed, I lay on her for few minutes and we go to shower with the idea of washing off. But, while in shower, things heat up and before we know, we are fucking in the shower.

There was another occasion I was visiting her town in work. Had booked this hotel with sauna and pools at the ground floor. We go to sauna (maybe, 10 other people there naked). She sits next to me. I pretend as if I am holding her waist. But soon, she is seated on my palm and my fingers are inside. She is wet again.

We exit sauna, go upstairs to my room and fuck.

She is so horny that she sometimes initiates sex before I do. I love that.

[DwayneJohnson]

Hi.

Anyone used seeking in Nordic region? I have a job offer that provides option to choose between Finland, norway or sweden and I was wondering what would be best place to meet non-professional or semi-professional girls. I have tried seeking in Estonia and most of the real pretty girls are expecting at least $1 K per meeting which isn't sustainable for me in long term.

Thanks.

[Artvand1]

The NRW region is my least favorite for FKKs in Germany. Much prefer Frankfurt, Hamburg, Berlin, and even the Munich scene where PSE sex is very common, including lots of anal on offer.

Interesting, thanks for your reply! Never knew PSE was common in FKKs LOL. Good to know. Will definitely try out next time I visit. Of course these would be extras that we negotiate with the girl, right?

[The Cane]

Cane, I have been with a stripper in a club when she was dressed as a civilian. She showed me how a dancer thinks when she asked "What guys in here do you think have the most money?" There was nothing about looks, and I honestly had never looked at a strip club like that before.

I also had a woman show me her seeking account. She had dozens if not hundreds of replies. The number of scammers were staggering. I guess a few of the scammers were attractive, but there were four guys I picked out as legit meaning they could afford to pay her, and she picked the same four.

I am not sure I would say caring for money over looks means women are less superficial. As for looks versus money with women, any decent looking woman can find and fuck a guy who is good looking. Hell, even the not so decent looking women can have that.

You're not just talking about "women". You're talking about a "specific subset of women" (strippers and prostitutes) where money is going to overrule almost everything else. That's not what I'm talking about. I'm talking about women who are looking for meaningful, serious relationships. In those circumstances, women can be just as shallow as men in terms of who they give a chance too (physical attraction being the key).

[Elvis 2008]

Move on to Mxico. So much better and less bull shit then Colombia. Especially if you have a decent budget you will love it.

The only reason to go to Colombia is if you are into Fake Asses or you are cheap. If you have any standards, you will probably hate Colombia and all the be. S. That comes with it. Sorry Elvis.

LOL. Actually my gal and her daughter both hate paisas and Medellin. Medellin has a Las Vegas type moral attitude and Bogota is more like NYC. There was a big difference in attitude between the two cities with women.

But you go where the gems are and honestly DF pre-covid, I did not do well in CDMX. After Covid hit, it was amazing.

[Elvis 2008]

I have met so many women over the years who claim women don't care about looks, and they're totally full of shit. Women can be, and usually are, just as superficial as men are. If a man cares about looks 95% of the time, then a woman cares about looks at least 90% of the time. And as far as I'm concerned, that's a difference that makes no difference! Women are superficial and care about looks, especially with women's lib and their newfound freedoms and independence, and don't let them snow you into believing anything else in an effort to make themselves appear not superficial, and therefore "better" than men.

Cane, I have been with a stripper in a club when she was dressed as a civilian. She showed me how a dancer thinks when she asked "What guys in here do you think have the most money?" There was nothing about looks, and I honestly had never looked at a strip club like that before.

I also had a woman show me her seeking account. She had dozens if not hundreds of replies. The number of scammers were staggering. I guess a few of the scammers were attractive, but there were four guys I picked out as legit meaning they could afford to pay her, and she picked the same four.

I am not sure I would say caring for money over looks means women are less superficial. As for looks versus money with women, any decent looking woman can find and fuck a guy who is good looking. Hell, even the not so decent looking women can have that.

[The Cane]

LshRoomer, my recommendation is to check out Bernds and Babylon in the NRW region. These ladies in these two establishments provide nice GFE. Although the quality of Bernds dropped they are still good compared to other FKKs. You won't go wrong, trust me.

The NRW region is my least favorite for FKKs in Germany. Much prefer Frankfurt, Hamburg, Berlin, and even the Munich scene where PSE sex is very common, including lots of anal on offer.

[Artvand1]

For starters, I know this is not the right forum. However, I wrote that I would briefly report my FKK experience for those GFE guys, like me, that have curiosities.

I'll keep it brief.

Which FKK did I visit? Artemis. Berlin.

Look of the girls? You can definitely find more than one that you like, either natural or plastic, tall or short, thin or not thin, in all colors (not all. I didn't see any asians).

Overview: You are wearing a robe and the girls walk around wearing nothing or close to nothing and they are spread out around the property. Some will approach you and some won't.

They are down for whatever:

Oh, you want your dick sucked in the movie theater, cool.

Oh, you want a threesome with anal, cool.

Oh you want her to stick her tongue in your ass, cool. LOL. I'm not even joking. Facts.

It feels like a strip club where you are a lot closer to the girls because you are both naked and yes, you can comfortably chill there for hours.

I'll give the same advice that I received before going. Take it for what it is. Don't expect magic and definitely don't expect GFE (I would not pay for anything GFE related). Have fun and treat it like a spa. Meaning take a walk in the pool, then bust a nut. Get a massage. Take a quick nap in the corner, wake up, bust a nut. Eat a light dinner (included). Hop in the sauna, then go home or bust another nut. Think of it as the girls are amenities there for you, the patron. If you look at it like that, you will feel more like a native, fully able to navigate the calm and hostile FKK waters.

Final thoughts: Give it a shot. Check it out. The experience is well worth it. I'm going to go one more time in the frankfurt area for the sake of comparison and I plan to say longer than 3 hours this time.

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LshRoomer, my recommendation is to check out Bernds and Babylon in the NRW region. These ladies in these two establishments provide nice GFE. Although the quality of Bernds dropped they are still good compared to other FKKs. You won't go wrong, trust me.

[AmericanPi]

Agree this is not the right place for this, but you started it.

FKK is something everybody should try once. It's a mind f. Like you can't wrap your head around it. The ones in Frankfurt are known to be among the best all that there's not much to do in Frankfurt otherwise. I did a few layovers there. You literally walk around with a robe or towel deciding which girl you're going to bang. Like it's just crazy walking around thinking which girl will get your spunk today because they can't possibly all and you need to ration it. It's nuts.

Only downside is once you've done it once, it's not as magical the second or third time. It's still good but the shock and awe is gone.

Everyone at least once must experience the magic.

For starters, I know this is not the right forum. However, I wrote that I would briefly report my FKK experience for those GFE guys, like me, that have curiosities.

I'll keep it brief.

Which FKK did I visit? Artemis. Berlin.

Look of the girls? You can definitely find more than one that you like, either natural or plastic, tall or short, thin or not thin, in all colors (not all. I didn't see any asians).

Overview: You are wearing a robe and the girls walk around wearing nothing or close to nothing and they are spread out around the property. Some will approach you and some won't.

They are down for whatever:

Oh, you want your dick sucked in the movie theater, cool.

Oh, you want a threesome with anal, cool.

Oh you want her to stick her tongue in your ass, cool. LOL. I'm not even joking. Facts.

It feels like a strip club where you are a lot closer to the girls because you are both naked and yes, you can comfortably chill there for hours.

I'll give the same advice that I received before going. Take it for what it is. Don't expect magic and definitely don't expect GFE (I would not pay for anything GFE related). Have fun and treat it like a spa. Meaning take a walk in the pool, then bust a nut. Get a massage. Take a quick nap in the corner, wake up, bust a nut. Eat a light dinner (included). Hop in the sauna, then go home or bust another nut. Think of it as the girls are amenities there for you, the patron. If you look at it like that, you will feel more like a native, fully able to navigate the calm and hostile FKK waters.

Final thoughts: Give it a shot. Check it out. The experience is well worth it. I'm going to go one more time in the frankfurt area for the sake of comparison and I plan to say longer than 3 hours this time.

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[LshRoomer]

For starters, I know this is not the right forum. However, I wrote that I would briefly report my FKK experience for those GFE guys, like me, that have curiosities.

I'll keep it brief.

Which FKK did I visit? Artemis. Berlin.

Look of the girls? You can definitely find more than one that you like, either natural or plastic, tall or short, thin or not thin, in all colors (not all. I didn't see any asians).

Overview: You are wearing a robe and the girls walk around wearing nothing or close to nothing and they are spread out around the property. Some will approach you and some won't.

They are down for whatever:

Oh, you want your dick sucked in the movie theater, cool.

Oh, you want a threesome with anal, cool.

Oh you want her to stick her tongue in your ass, cool. LOL. I'm not even joking. Facts.

It feels like a strip club where you are a lot closer to the girls because you are both naked and yes, you can comfortably chill there for hours.

I'll give the same advice that I received before going. Take it for what it is. Don't expect magic and definitely don't expect GFE (I would not pay for anything GFE related). Have fun and treat it like a spa. Meaning take a walk in the pool, then bust a nut. Get a massage. Take a quick nap in the corner, wake up, bust a nut. Eat a light dinner (included). Hop in the sauna, then go home or bust another nut. Think of it as the girls are amenities there for you, the patron. If you look at it like that, you will feel more like a native, fully able to navigate the calm and hostile FKK waters.

Final thoughts: Give it a shot. Check it out. The experience is well worth it. I'm going to go one more time in the frankfurt area for the sake of comparison and I plan to say longer than 3 hours this time.

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[DramaFree11]

My reasons for going to Colombia is that it's closer to my preferred timezone (CDMX is about 1. 5 h the other direction) and I legitimately think the optics are better here. I see the cheapness as a con, where you trade time for lowered prices. But maybe the right way to do things is to try both. After a week in Cartagena, I'm heading to Medellin for 2 where I will put more effort into girls around 25, and offer more sugar in exchange. Then go to CDMX for 2 weeks afterwards.

SA is pretty dead in Cartagena. I met one girl who said she was 25, but was really 20. Model, stuck up attitude, on her phone a lot and yet when the clothes came off soft body and bad implants. Another girl said she was 27 but really was 29, came from Barranquilla. Overall a good experience but hard to have a decent conversation as most of what I was talking about seemed to go over her head. Both girls had this willingness to please which made me very happy and was overall lacking in Argentina. If the girls I'm Barranquilla are like her, meeting a younger one would make me very happy..

I will be interested to hear your take on MDE, but judging from your report, I doubt you will like it. You will run into the same issues you were having in Cartagena, but it will probably be much worse. Good luck.

[LshRoomer]

I guess I look at it differently. I mean they are looking for $$ more than looks but they want someone they won't dread spending time with and vice versa. My experience is if we don't vibe and really chat and "get along" on text then it's not going to work for a date. Girls who just respond with Hey. Yes. No. Ok sounds good. To me these are non starters. Maybe some of these girls would be ok to fuck but dinner would be a real chore.

It's an art. If you want a pro sort of experience, you can quickly find a girl on SA that gives you her whatsapp without even looking at your profile. I ignore those girls. When you find that the girl mentions something in your profile, I found that in those cases they are usually hooked. They have found something that piques their interest and it kinda straddles that nice line where they like your look and you seem like a person they would be interested in chilling with.

I have Lili in Madrid that I hit up whenever I'm in town and last time I was there, she told me that I'm the only person that she still talks to from SA. Now, that may not be the truth, but it was unsolicited. Even still, we have great times together, her english is perfect (english teacher) and it's always 200-250 whenever we link up. There's also light conversation during the time between trips. The point is that I am bonus cash that comes around once in a while, but it's a win for her too because she really likes the sex (this was the girl that laid paralyzed on the bed after some rough doggy and the only word she could muster between breaths was "Wow" LOL) and appears to genuinely like to hang out. She also brings me into her life, explaining how she intends to use the money that I'm helping her out with. THese are the types of arrangements that I favor; one where both people are invested. I guess I would describe it as the nether regions of transaction where the influence of humanity blurs the simplistic trade rules of sex for money and money for sex. LOL.

Then there is Maria in Madrid. That's a totally different specimen of complexity and at this point, no cash has been traded and physically she can't get enough. I think I'm starting to see that the medium of exchange is not cash with her; It's more of an exchange of emotional capital.

The gems are out there and a gem for one guy will be coal for another (assuming you are not a coal miner), as personality plays a big part. SBs often write that they want a guy that knows what he wants. When you have experience finding what you want, it becomes easy to dismiss some, while investing in others. I usually avoid most girls that don't speak enough english to converse without a translator. Maria doesn't speak english, but there was something that made me give her a chance. I later (much later) found that she speaks romanian but grew up in Spain, so now we sit there for hours with broken romanian / spanish / english and comms are easy. Find those gems!

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