Seeking Arrangements

[MiamiBoy1]

My job is fully remote, and I can spend 6 months per year in Brazil without worrying about breaking any laws. The challenge is where to spend the other 6, given that Brazilian women are so amazing.

I initially wrote off Mexico, because many of the women I've found on SA there aren't attractive. But after a closer look weeding through the noise the last few weeks, I've found a couple which looked decent and perhaps even better, found a number of foreign women in Mexico (Argentinians, Russians, Venezuelans). Mexico looks like a good choice for 3 months.

I've been surprised why the 9+ Colombians on SA aren't responding to me (like none of them). Maybe I'm too young? Maybe I don't blow enough smoke up their asses? Would they be more receptive if I bought them something from their wishlist first? I'm tempted to take another 3 months a year in MDE to find out. I did make contact with a few attractive ones who did not live in Medellin, and the plausible explanation is a high volume of gold diggers where it's hard to find the girls with good personalities. Will try to confirm next year.

Where would you guys spend your time?

I have always said that the best looking girls in Mexico are not Mexicans, but foreigners. An average Mexican girl is less attractive than average Colombiana or Brasileira. But speaking of higher end market, Mexico got an advantage, because there is money to be made and all the hot girls from other countries flock there to work. CDMX got plenty of model agencies. Rich Mexicans love white Eastern European girls and are willing to pay premium. DF says Mexicans have better personality and are more fun, but I think they are not any better than other central or Latin america girls, it all depends on chemistry and varies case by case.

In Mde it is definitely not easy to get 9's and 10's attention. Simply because the supply of hot girls is limited, while you are competing with a ton of gringos who travel there for pussy. Be persistent, make your Seeking profile stand out, and if it doesn't help, move on. If you speak Spanish you would probably be better off approaching hot women in malls, restaurants, etc. Online game in mde is super tough.

Oh, and wishlist is such a BS, don’t even pay attention

[NeilGeorge]

Big thing is that you have to watch out for is the Mann Act. Someone could say you are transporting a woman across country lines for sexual purposes,
The Mann Act is also like drugs in the sense that the government can seize anything involved with the transportation of suspected trafficking.

The Mann Act requires, "with intent that such individual engage in prostitution, or in any sexual activity for which any person can be charged with a criminal offense" Having personal sex with a consenting female is normally not a crime. Unless she is a minor or you pimp her out.

You are off base, my friend.

[TedFerguson]

My brother said he had no problem finding an 8 in Argentina but never saw a 10, and I agree with that too. .

I guess the thing is when you find a good woman in Colombia the stereotype for fleecing American men is so strong these women go out of their way not to do it. So from a sugaring perspective, the elite women there are and were great. You just have to weed out the gold diggers which are most of them.

My job is fully remote, and I can spend 6 months per year in Brazil without worrying about breaking any laws. The challenge is where to spend the other 6, given that Brazilian women are so amazing.

I initially wrote off Mexico, because many of the women I've found on SA there aren't attractive. But after a closer look weeding through the noise the last few weeks, I've found a couple which looked decent and perhaps even better, found a number of foreign women in Mexico (Argentinians, Russians, Venezuelans). Mexico looks like a good choice for 3 months.

I've been surprised why the 9+ Colombians on SA aren't responding to me (like none of them). Maybe I'm too young? Maybe I don't blow enough smoke up their asses? Would they be more receptive if I bought them something from their wishlist first? I'm tempted to take another 3 months a year in MDE to find out. I did make contact with a few attractive ones who did not live in Medellin, and the plausible explanation is a high volume of gold diggers where it's hard to find the girls with good personalities. Will try to confirm next year.

Where would you guys spend your time?

[Elvis 2008]

Elvis and what was the compensation for a weekend. Flight + lodging and 1000 USD?

I paid her $300 to $500 for a few days and took her shopping twice. Big thing is that you have to watch out for is the Mann Act. Someone could say you are transporting a woman across country lines for sexual purposes, so you have to make sure she refers to herself as your GF or someone you are dating and it is best if you have GF type activity photos on her and your phone with all you and she did in Mexico. Also, I would have her say that you did not meet on seeking. It might even be better if she could mention the reason for her travel is some other reason than to meet you like she is going to a concert, convention ETC and is just staying with you. And absolutely she should not have anything on her phone with regards to you paying her.

Also, this Mexican gal with me dressed up very provocatively, and she got harassed badly the first time she came into the country. Trump was president then and the border agents acted differently with him as president especially with Mexicans. I think she came three times and she flew though customs the second and third time, but the first time she was very upset and in tears because she was harassed so badly.

The Mann Act is also like drugs in the sense that the government can seize anything involved with the transportation of suspected trafficking. So if you picked her up on the border with a car, they could seize the car without a warrant if trafficking is even just suspected.

My gal was a lawyer, spoke English, and knew better than to say to customs, I am here to fuck a guy for money. Of course, that was not true, but you better be damned sure you screen a woman you are flying across and drill them on what to say and how to look. If she is young, attractive, and traveling alone, she meets the profile for being trafficked.

Other thing you could do is just fly her to a border town like Tijuana or Juarez and have her come across by bus or walk across saying she is going to shop for a few days in the USA and then fly her from San Diego or El Paso to wherever after that. That is probably a lot safer way to go. It is more of a hassle but probably worth it.

And I would not do this with any woman who does not have a job or is on any kind of escort site.

[Pk099]

AS DF says, I agree that CDMX SA scene is awesome if you find English speaking girl (for those who do not speak Spanish).

If you speak Spanish CDMX is gold mine.

As Elvis said proximity to US is very big factor in CDMX (or any city in Mexico).

For some of us from Texas, 2 HR flight and cheap tickets allow to have bigger budget for multiple quick trips.

Also the quality and availability of Love Hotels only adds more fun to the scene. (I never seen love hotels outside of CDMX, this should be everywhere.

I can not comment on any other LATAM county as never been there.

But definitely have a plan for Columbia and Brazil. Just need time as I will loose 2 whole days in travel.

I wanted to go to Medellin with ElPapi last month but logistics just did not work (ticket price and travel time).

I had 2 trips to Mexico in last 2 months.

In the 1st trip I had 2 SA girls and 3 non-SA pro girls. My experience with SA girls is very good if they speak English.

First SA girl did not speak English and for me it was not fun even though she tried her best and was hot looking.

Second SA girl was a blast, spoke good English, really fun to talk, not hot but beautiful with very nice body, enjoyed sex.

She was with me from 7 pm dinner till 7 am in the morning.

Of course her allowance expectations were 40% more than the first girl. But it was totally worth. (I have FRs in DF section).

http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/...orts&p=2760845#post2760845.

In my 2nd CDMX trip, I met 3 SA girls and a 3 some with 2 non-SA, Columbians WG on first night as there were no SA girl available for late night (FRs coming soon).

I met the English speaking SA girl from previous trip and this time it was extension to previous night, just got better.

2 other SA girls I met also spoke English and both girls were lot of fun and all 3 girls showed interest in 3 some, so next trip will be multiple 3 somes.

Wyatt, I did not do the sugar baby thing until 2009 and was last in Argentina in 2007. One guy said Peru women max out at a 7, and I agree with that. My brother said he had no problem finding an 8 in Argentina but never saw a 10, and I agree with that too. I did see 10's though in Colombia and Brazil and saw 10's from Paraguay and Venezuela in other countries.

I probably bedded 20 women there, and 18 or so were from Argentina and 2 were from Paraguay. I would have repeated with 2 of the 18 Argentines but both of the women from Paraguay. I really was never selling the sugar baby concept there or in Brazil. What I posted was what I saw prior to knowing the Argentine stereotypes.

Maybe if I had approached with the sugar baby concept, things would have been better, but I will probably never know.

Thing is I learned the most about the Latin stereotypes from this youtube channel called Joanna speaks. Here is one on Argentina: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rsHn9VJuTzA.

Thing is you would think I would disagree with DF about Colombia seeing as how I have hit gold there, but I really do not. In the P4 P world, I was totally disappointed with Colombia. The women did not look as good as Brazil or Argentina and IMO were even more full of themselves than the Argentines and wanted even more money.

I guess the thing is when you find a good woman in Colombia the stereotype for fleecing American men is so strong these women go out of their way not to do it. So from a sugaring perspective, the elite women there are and were great. You just have to weed out the gold diggers which are most of them.

From a P4P POV though, I found the Vennies in Colombia better looking, better performing, and nicer.

When I sent out PMs to women on seeking, I found the Brazilians friendlier and better looking all in all though than the Argentines. Still, why bother? It is a 10 hour flight to both places compared to 2 with Mexico. The flight costs dwarf what you would pay the women.

Colombia is closer but the flights times to everywhere but Bogota are going to run you 8 hours or pretty much all day. Given it takes 2 days to travel then, it is not realistic for many guys to go there and have a sugar baby. Half the time I have had to meet my woman in Mexico or Central America due to my tight schedule.

If you are in the North, Canada may work out for some guys. And much of Central America is doable from a time perspective but I have not seen much I like in Central America woman wise which leaves Mexico.

Thing is there are many Mexican cities with direct connections from the USA off the beaten path. I never followed up on them but I missed out on some real lookers in the mid sized cities. Thing is even if you do not want to go to their city, it is dirt cheap to fly them to say Mexico City or Cancun.

And the other thing is that it is super easy for Mexican women to get American tourist visas. I had one that I flew back to my place for a weekend. Fun times.

[NapataJohn]

And the other thing is that it is super easy for Mexican women to get American tourist visas. I had one that I flew back to my place for a weekend. Fun times.

Elvis and what was the compensation for a weekend. Flight + lodging and 1000 USD?

[Elvis 2008]

This sounds like the usual stereotyping of Argentinians, but there are decades of truth behind it. It's not just the aloofness and attitude of the women. This arrogance and drama is endemic in the entire culture. The business culture is affected by the same delusions. History has moved on and left them with a very bad psyche.

Wyatt, I did not do the sugar baby thing until 2009 and was last in Argentina in 2007. One guy said Peru women max out at a 7, and I agree with that. My brother said he had no problem finding an 8 in Argentina but never saw a 10, and I agree with that too. I did see 10's though in Colombia and Brazil and saw 10's from Paraguay and Venezuela in other countries.

I probably bedded 20 women there, and 18 or so were from Argentina and 2 were from Paraguay. I would have repeated with 2 of the 18 Argentines but both of the women from Paraguay. I really was never selling the sugar baby concept there or in Brazil. What I posted was what I saw prior to knowing the Argentine stereotypes.

Maybe if I had approached with the sugar baby concept, things would have been better, but I will probably never know.

Thing is I learned the most about the Latin stereotypes from this youtube channel called Joanna speaks. Here is one on Argentina: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rsHn9VJuTzA.

Thing is you would think I would disagree with DF about Colombia seeing as how I have hit gold there, but I really do not. In the P4 P world, I was totally disappointed with Colombia. The women did not look as good as Brazil or Argentina and IMO were even more full of themselves than the Argentines and wanted even more money.

I guess the thing is when you find a good woman in Colombia the stereotype for fleecing American men is so strong these women go out of their way not to do it. So from a sugaring perspective, the elite women there are and were great. You just have to weed out the gold diggers which are most of them.

From a P4P POV though, I found the Vennies in Colombia better looking, better performing, and nicer.

When I sent out PMs to women on seeking, I found the Brazilians friendlier and better looking all in all though than the Argentines. Still, why bother? It is a 10 hour flight to both places compared to 2 with Mexico. The flight costs dwarf what you would pay the women.

Colombia is closer but the flights times to everywhere but Bogota are going to run you 8 hours or pretty much all day. Given it takes 2 days to travel then, it is not realistic for many guys to go there and have a sugar baby. Half the time I have had to meet my woman in Mexico or Central America due to my tight schedule.

If you are in the North, Canada may work out for some guys. And much of Central America is doable from a time perspective but I have not seen much I like in Central America woman wise which leaves Mexico.

Thing is there are many Mexican cities with direct connections from the USA off the beaten path. I never followed up on them but I missed out on some real lookers in the mid sized cities. Thing is even if you do not want to go to their city, it is dirt cheap to fly them to say Mexico City or Cancun.

And the other thing is that it is super easy for Mexican women to get American tourist visas. I had one that I flew back to my place for a weekend. Fun times.

[Steve 9696]

Ganar ganar literally means I'll fuck you for money. You're happy, I'm happy.

Makes sense now that you say it out loud. Win win. We use that expression in America also. For sex in exchange for money we use the euphemism "mutually beneficial" but it's nearly the same turn of phrase as ganar ganar.

[DramaFree11]

Dude just read back some pages. DramaFree talks all the time about how awesome the SA scene is in CDMX. He claims best in world. He seems a credible guy. Give it a whirl!

And oh if a girl is on seeking she PLANS to be intimate. Thats what everyone is there for. The 5% platonic girls are delusional. U can weed them Out easy.

Clarification, SA is awesome in CDMX. I am not sure about the best in the world. Also takes, multiple trips, hard work and a decent budget.

[ContinentalF]

Would anyone else mind sharing their experience too specifically in CDMX? Most interested in if knowing if sb have been willing to be intimate and am I reading too much into this ganar ganar thing? I know it all varies by person and another user had made a great post about how to message but wanted to hear from others on their experiences, thanks.

Ganar ganar literally means I'll fuck you for money. You're happy, I'm happy.

[Steve 9696]

Would anyone else mind sharing their experience too specifically in CDMX? Most interested in if knowing if sb have been willing to be intimate and am I reading too much into this ganar ganar thing? I know it all varies by person and another user had made a great post about how to message but wanted to hear from others on their experiences, thanks.

Dude just read back some pages. DramaFree talks all the time about how awesome the SA scene is in CDMX. He claims best in world. He seems a credible guy. Give it a whirl!

And oh if a girl is on seeking she PLANS to be intimate. That’s what everyone is there for. The 5% platonic girls are delusional. U can weed them Out easy.

[JuliusGeezer]

How was your experience in CDMX? Did you set your expectations firmly up front with them as in if there is chemistry blah blah blah, we will head back to my place? I'm guessing there might have been some that flaked or do they all fully understand the terms? I'm sure there's some who expect $ for just showing up for a coffee or a dinner, sorry for the questions but noob here which is why I ask.

I've been seeing ganar ganar in a lot of profiles, does that just mean win win or is that code for something else? LOL.

Would anyone else mind sharing their experience too specifically in CDMX? Most interested in if knowing if sb have been willing to be intimate and am I reading too much into this ganar ganar thing? I know it all varies by person and another user had made a great post about how to message but wanted to hear from others on their experiences, thanks.

[DramaFree11]

I just want to share this news here. A lot of discussions on the Medellin site over this robbery and murder incident that originated from Tinder.

Be extra careful especially drinking from an unknown source or while your drink is left unattended in bar etc. Drugging and then robbing you is more common than one might think. I personally know someone who was drugged and was completely cleaned out and he was an expat living in Medellin. It could be a lot worse.

Here is the link to the recent news of the Medellin Tinder murder.

https://www.vice.com/en/article/z34k...n-death-tinder

https://nextshark.com/california-man...e-in-colombia/

Thank you. I will never understand why guys like Colombia so much. Too dangerous and way too many drugs for me. Not to mention, I have zero attraction to Colombian Chicks.

[Steve 9696]

Thought about this girl the other day. Maybe because we were talking heavy girls. But it's a great story about how some girls are complete non-pros. Not even semi-pro but like total babe in the woods first timers. Tons of persistence and some Nampa and I have her doing things she's never done before. Here's the story. 2020 or early 2021 I think?

So I met Mariah about two weeks ago on SA. Pretty face but clearly a larger girl. Decided what the heck I need a girl who kisses and BJs like her life depends on it and the rest doesn't matter. I try to get her out on a date but honestly she is scared total SA virgin. I finally get her to agree by saying we absolutely won't go to the room. Most we will do is kissing.

This turns out to be a master stroke because:

1. It gets her to agree to the date.

2. It puts kissing squarely on the menu.

So we had dinner at My favorite place. Honestly it was a nice dinner but not the conversational chemistry of some girls. Still a very nice time. I learn that she's Jordanian, very strict upbringing. And lots of other interesting back story. But as I continue to drink I think yeah we could fuck. So I ask her if she wants to go for a walk and she says sure. A bit of Nanpa here:

1 change venue and isolate.

2 lead the girl. If she says yes you are halfway there.

So we walk down the street a few blocks and back. Halfway back I stop her and go for the kiss. A couple light kisses then full on passion. Best kisser since Valentina last fall. And we kiss against her car. I mean full on tongue tangling bliss. Top notch. And I have her her hooked.

So we have a couple failed follow ups due to logistics but tonight is the night. We managed to get sex on the table during the chatting and agree we will have drinks then hit the Hyatt. She texts me her tits one night. I get the feeling this girl (currently separated) needs to be fucked bad. And man was I right.

We have drinks and some amiable conversation but then head to the room where a bottle of Moscato Champagne awaits. A couple glasses and it's on. The kissing is super passionate. I put her hand on my swelling cock and that lights her fire. She starts undoing my belt. And pushes me onto the bed. You can just tell she is like completely lit w passion. She starts a great BJ.

The clothes are getting in the way so we shed them. She's naked and gets on top me and the kisses continue. Next thing I know she is putting me inside her raw! Doh! I tell her "babe I don't think we can do that" so she backs off but damn she was going to bareback me straight out the gate!

Goes down to BJ and it's very very good. All good shaft work and BLS. I've found that girls that love to kiss love to suck cock too and here it is. You can tell she loves sucking cock.

I maneuver her onto her back and start working her pussy with my hand while I get my cock back in her mouth. She LOVES this. She is a sloppy wet mess. I've grown to love this position did it a lot with Alex kneeling by her head, left hand in pussy, and cock in her mouth. Wow. Really love FIV and being blown at same time.

As we progress thru our sexual encounter it becomes clear (and she later confirms) that she has never:

1. Had her gspot worked.

2. Done 69.

3. Taken a load of cum CIM.

She's 26 and I am not lying. Been with four guys lifetime (who obviously did not know wtf they are doing!) I completely rocked her world! It was a blast.

I can't really describe the passion. It was different and off the charts. Like she needed cock so desperately she'the do anything. And sooooo much deep passionate kissing.

I can't remember the exact order but a few highlights:

She's blowing me and I start pulling her around to 69 and she's like "uh, are you sure? Um ok. " (Didn't know then she'the never done it before). She's got a great pussy and dripping wet so it's lots of fun. You can tell she is worked up and having trouble BJing and being eaten at the same time. It's adorable.

Later I have her on her back and go down on her. My tongue is still sore this morning. No joke. I have FIV on gspot and tongue on clit and she is going nuts. I keep feeling pussy clamps as she builds. Wow. The real deal.

I end up cumming when in mish while kissing deeply. Luv that.

When fucking her the second time. She's managed to get her hand down between us in mish and is working her clit. It's a little distracting but she's having g so much fun I don't mind. She starts softly moaning and saying things in a whisper that I can't quite hear. But I do hear her say "you dick feels sooo good". Aw nice to hear that!

So shortly after that she's pretty spent and I pull out and take off the condom and say I want to finish in your mouth. You can see her hesitate and be like "Ummm ok" and I wonder for a second because it's my most common finish.

So we roll me on my back and and she launches some awesome BBBJ. A little too fast but she slows down when I ask. So I build and start shooting my load in her mouth. Around shot three she gags and nearly barfs on me. But quickly gets it together and puts it back in her mouth for a few more pumps.

She strokes and massages me a bit like she's not quite sure how to proceed with a mouthful of cum. But after a minute or so (longer than necessary) she goes and spits. Later she confesses she's never done CIM before. LOL. Love me a virgin mouth.

So two solid rounds of all the trimmings and it was GREAT. There is just something about being with a girl who needs cock soooo bad and who has never been fucked properly. Passionate kissing, great BJ, great attitude, fun Newbie.

[Ggekko2009]

I just want to share this news here. A lot of discussions on the Medellin site over this robbery and murder incident that originated from Tinder.

Be extra careful especially drinking from an unknown source or while your drink is left unattended in bar etc. Drugging and then robbing you is more common than one might think. I personally know someone who was drugged and was completely cleaned out and he was an expat living in Medellin. It could be a lot worse.

Here is the link to the recent news of the Medellin Tinder murder.

https://www.vice.com/en/article/z34k...n-death-tinder

https://nextshark.com/california-man...e-in-colombia/