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03-13-24 03:27 #5559
Posts: 51Originally Posted by GoingDumb [View Original Post]
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03-13-24 02:50 #5558
Posts: 347Sounds like you're both down for the same thing
So why not ask her? I'd never hesitate to ask someone if I insulted them especially if I didn't mean to. I can't think of a more honest question and it can't possibly make things any worse than you perceive them.
I wouldn't put too much thought in on her activity. Every sb I ever had was still active somewhat if nothing more than to clean their inboxes. I've been lucky enough to have some really desirable girls and they tell me their inboxes are unmanageable. They just delete everything and start with the newest messages when they're back on the market. I've been seeing my current for about 10 months now and she logs in occasionally to do exactly what I just said. I doesn't make me jealous or worried that I'll lose her but I'm probably the least jealous person on the planet. At the end of the day, she gets what she wants and I get what I want plus we're both reliable and still enjoy the sex so everybody wins.
Originally Posted by GoingDumb [View Original Post]
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03-13-24 01:15 #5557
Posts: 125Originally Posted by Steve9696 [View Original Post]
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03-13-24 01:00 #5556
Posts: 125Originally Posted by BallsDeep1980 [View Original Post]
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03-13-24 00:57 #5555
Posts: 125I've been seeing a girl from sa for about 2 months now. PPM / allowance didn't come up until we were in bed the second time and when I asked what she expected she said she wasn't looking for money, just casual sex. She is ok going bare as well which is nice. Since then we go out once or twice a week and she stays over. Taken her to some nicer places she wanted to try and sent her money for a dress.
When she was over last week we were talking about dating / sa and I said something she took as an insult about her getting hit on in public. She also asked what I was looking for on sa and if I'the done allowances before. This past weekend she's active on sa again and I'm worried I messed it up by insulting her or if she's feeling shorted about the allowance. We both agreed that if we saw other people we'the use protection but I don't want to bring it up and look possessive.
I like her company but don't want a relationship. She doesn't either and ended her first experience on sa when the guy wanted one. I was thinking about taking her on a trip but now I'm not sure. I'the like to know how you guys handle or decide how much to put into this kind of relationship. I know it's not really sugar and more like a fwb but don't know where else to post.
Also, for guys like Steve that sound like their game has gotten pretty good, have you tried picking up regular girls? The one good thing about seeking is I've gotten a lot more practice dates that way.
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03-12-24 15:32 #5554
Posts: 347Two things
Anyone notice that seeking offered 1 HR premium service for free yesterday? I was able to utilize it 4 times and got a total hottie from SP over to whatsapp. She asked me what I gave my regular sb but wouldn't tell me what she got in the last or what she wanted. She said she'd tell me when my trip gets closer. I'm thinking 1-1.5 k without seeing her in person to be adjusted up or down depending on how the meet and greet goes.
Originally Posted by Steve9696 [View Original Post]
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03-12-24 15:07 #5553
Posts: 590Originally Posted by BallsDeep1980 [View Original Post]
Why not try this. Tell her listen, we are both meeting someone we met online that we know nothing about. You're a woman and you should have security concerns meeting men off the internet and you want her to feel secure. And you try to use best practices too because you don't meet many girls online and are selective about who you meet with. So you'd like to do a video call first and then make plans to meet in a public place. See how you can vet her more thoroughly but make it all about your concern for her and her safety?
If she makes this anything but easy for you she's a scammer.
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03-12-24 14:38 #5552
Posts: 2709Brazil Prices
Originally Posted by Robotron [View Original Post]
That said I had an amazing Seeking girl in Rio for 500 R. So clearly the gems exist. And Mia from Casarao who is a ten only wanted 1200 R for overnight. So I'm sure she would have taken that or less if she was on seeking. So I'the say between 500-1200 R seems like it should work?
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03-12-24 11:18 #5551
Posts: 51Are scammers / robbers common?
I am in contact with a drop dead gorgeous 21 year old and she says she can't wait to be with me etc, I did do a good job of flirting with her for sure, but I can't help just thinking this seems a little too easy and wondering if I'm being setup.
For the record, she has sent me selifes, voice messages, and I'm on her instagram, and everything there looks solid.
The other thing is I messaged her once on SA and she gave me her whatsapp. I then tried to talk to her again a couple weeks later, and her whatsapp number had changed. Could that be a red flag?
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03-12-24 08:24 #5550
Posts: 60Originally Posted by Steve9696 [View Original Post]
And for the allowance, if you usually do 400 USD, are you messaging Brazilians 2,000 or R2,0000 assuming they know you mean BRL or in Colombia for example, 2 mil pesos? I don't want to be that guy overspending and driving up the market.
In my own experience in the US, I tend to be direct off the bat. I've had some dates where we flirt all week, meet up, and the chick wants me to pay her 250 for dinner alone. I figure messaging this way saves time to filter the BS, but at the same time it's likely cost me real experiences and actually hooking up as you describe.
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03-11-24 20:37 #5549
Posts: 2709Same as USA
Originally Posted by Krilimag [View Original Post]
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03-11-24 18:01 #5548
Posts: 2933Originally Posted by Steve9696 [View Original Post]
Another thing I want to add is that the price can't be generalized. It depends on the look of the girl. When someone just asks what the price is, that is too general a question to reply. Because the replied price is still depending on one's preference. It can go from 500 to 5000. I may say it is 500, and you may think wow! 500 can get me a runway model type of girl. LOL
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03-11-24 17:39 #5547
Posts: 17Just To Clarify In SA
Originally Posted by Robotron [View Original Post]
What is the website for seeking arrangement Brazil?
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03-11-24 17:21 #5546
Posts: 2794Originally Posted by Steve9696 [View Original Post]
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03-11-24 17:05 #5545
Posts: 2709Guide to Seeking Game
Here is my guide from a few years back. I need to update it a bit so any and all feedback welcome!
Seeking Arrangement Saves the Day -- Release from Pussy Prison.
Good as it was to discover P411 and get out of complete pussy drought, Seeking Arrangement opened a whole new world for me -- Sugar Baby. Sugar Daddy dating. I had gotten a taste of this with Thifany. I mean that is really what we were doing when I flew her to London. I paid her a very reasonable allowance for the week and we just played boyfriend and girlfriend. What fun.
I came to realize through the Thifany experience that I like more than just paid sex. And in fact I love having a girlfriend. I enjoy texting each other. I enjoy that someone cares about me (even if she's pretending -- just never tell me so!) and of course I love the complete experience of dinners and dancing and just acting like real lovers. Not transactional sex partners. And SB / SD is all about this same experience. When done properly.
So how do you do it properly? I suppose this could vary widely depending on what you are after. But I am after a girl who FEELS like a girlfriend. She's affectionate, appreciates an evening above her usual stature in life, and is able to actually enjoy herself with you. She views the allowance / gift (I. E. Money!) as a bonus. Not the only thing she is after. Any girl where I feel money is the primary motivation and she will go with anyone for a high enough price, gets kicked straight to the curb. She's got to be a girlfriend first, and any "benefits" come second.
Knowing that this is the kind of girl I want to attract (and other guys I have talked to also find this persona the most attractive), there is a set of rules you have to play by. Understand that SA is NOT AT ALL like picking up hookers. It is much more like meeting a girl in a bar and seducing her to leave with you. It's just an online bar. Sure you need money, but you also need some texting game and you need to treat her with respect. If you do, you have a chance of closing the deal. However, the moment you disrespect her, she will be gone.
The most important rule when vibing with a girl and getting a meeting set up is: never discuss sex or money. These things will be implied and they will be done offline. Never discuss sex or money on the Seeking Arrangements platform and really never discuss sex at all. As soon as you are that explicit, the kind of girl you are after will feel disrespected and ghost you in no time flat. Plus, it can get you booted from SA for life if you are reported. Don't worry, there are ways to have this conversation properly, explained below.
Start your engagement with a girl with some light chat and flirt. Your opener should be something specific to her that you read in her profile -- not something generic. And ALWAYS end every message with a question. This prompts her to respond. If you don't ask a question, she will not take the initiative and the conversation will just die. You have to drive it; and you drive with questions. Get her to tell you a few things about herself: what she likes to eat, her favorite wine, dog or cat person. It doesn't really matter what you discuss; just something that will get her to engage a bit.
At some point you will establish that you like each other reasonably well and one or the other will suggest taking the conversation off of SA and over to text. If tries to take you offline right away, she is probably a hooker. If she doesn't ask for a pic pretty early on, she is probably a hooker. Often, I am the one to suggest going over to private phone text. You can keep it pretty innocuous, saying you notice she is not on often and it might be easier to connect up by text. But don't do it too early – this spooks the nice girls. Have a conversation over a few days and then take it off SA to texting.
Once you are texting, pick up the thread you had going and continue a little friendly chat. At some point, you will suggest that you think you vibe well and should meet up. Most often she will agree and now its time to establish that you will have sex (without saying it!) and how much is the agreed price (without saying it's a price! Some guys cover the price discussion in person, but I find that awkward and always set it ahead of time.
Once she's said "yeah, lets meetup" I say I want to describe our date to her (this is how I introduce the sex topic without getting explicit.) I usually say something about going out for dinner or drinks and having an epic time, laughing a lot and if the chemistry is right spending some private time (or intimate time or adult time -- insert your favorite euphemism -- but never say SEX!) or on the off chance we don't vibe, we can part after dinner no harm no foul. And ask if that sounds about right to them. Most often, if they are the kind of girl you are after, they will be down with this description and say, sure that sounds good.
This opens the door for the pricing discussion. I usually say something like "Of course I'the want to give you a gift / allowance. Did you have something in mind?" and the negotiation is underway.
Never ever say "what's your price" or "how much do you charge for PPM". Always use the approach above, that you want to give them something. Sometimes, she will say she doesn't know and get you to give the first figure (good negotiating tactic on her part, but often they are in fact new). I am OK with this and say "well, what I've done before is 300. I hope that works for you. " (note no $ sign).
As far as what you should pay, I've found a strong correlation between what a pretty hooker charges for an hour (in a given city) to be what an SA girl will take for an evening. I'the say (pre-pandemic) most big US cities $400 is reasonable for a pretty girl (lots will ask more – I just kick them to the curb) with SF and NYC more like $500. In second tier cities, $300 should do it and I've found a few gems at $200 (though more in the 6-7 category). During the pandemic, I've found a lot of these girls are struggling, so if they ask 500, when 400 is more correct, I usually don't push them on it and just go with what they asked.
Once you have said "we are going to have sex, right" -- without saying it -- and money discussion out of the way, you should be good to go. Just keep on with the flirty texts without being too frequent, clingy or annoying and then meet up at the appointed day and time. More often than not, if you are not terribly objectionable looking, have a little bit of charm, and follow the "let's get out of here" model you might use with a regular pickup, you will end up in the room with your girl and have a rocking time.
Having done this alot (more than 50 times in many different cities), I've found that having sex on the first date is super important. The few times I've had a platonic date (especially a non-alcoholic one) to be followed by sex on the second date – it never happens. You have to take the momentum on that first date and take it all the way to the bedroom. Remember girls are submissive and will largely follow your lead – even if that lead is to the hotel room.
Finally, I should note that how much time you spend with her is largely up to her and how well you vibe. It's not something you negotiate, like you would with a hooker. Most times it will probably be 3-4 hours including dinner and sex, after which she might say she needs to get home. But, in my experience, about 50% of girls sleep over. It's not something you discuss. It just happens. You cuddle after sex and next thing you know she's taking off her necklace to the bedside table. Bingo!
Seeking is absolutely the best, if you take the time to find the gems amongst the bullshit and follow the above guide.