Seeking Arrangements

[DonCarlos1234]

I unfortunately have that ingrained Midwestern trait of wanting to get value for what I pay LOL. Of course doing bareback, multiple pops, and the girl being gorgeous is worth all of that (and up to $140). I'm also here for 3 weeks on this trip so was trying to be thoughtful in feeling 'the goring rate' out first.

Some part of it may also be that it's earlier in the week. I've found girls become much more communicative towards the weekend as they arrange their plans and try to fit in a trick.

I am also (originally) from Chi Town / NW Indiana. And will be in Colombia for 3 weeks (maybe more) starting Thanksgiving. In the past I paid girls (who asked) what they asked for. Way more than anyone on the Medellin board would want to hear about. Now my concern is which girls to see on this next trip. One thinks she is in love. LOL.

SA banned me around 6 months ago. But I ran out of time to contact all the numbers I had saved. I still would like to get back on and see who is available.

[DramaFree11]

I'm sure if I bump my budget 2 x-3 x, up to 1 million cop, or more, the girls will be always on time and less drama LOL.

Time is money. I am glad to pay a little more, to eliminate a lot of the be. S.

[MiamiBoy1]

I am not going to argue that MDE is cheaper then CDMX, but for me time is money. The girls I deal with are on time for the most part or at least let me know when they will be late. The girls is CDMX that I am meeting on SA are definitely smarter, less drama and more honest then the Colombian girls.

There is absolutely no issues with Drugs or Violence in CDMX unless you go looking for it. Also, I do not have to deal with all the low end sex tourist in Colombia. Not to mention the shitty music and food in Colombia. Both places have attractive girls.

I'm sure if I bump my budget 2 x-3 x, up to 1 million cop, or more, the girls will be always on time and less drama LOL.

[Steve 9696]

So after a string of 8 girls in four days in Austria and Spain at the clubs, I got to squeeze in a single night in London. And I wanted the true GFE that only a real deal Seeking girl can provide. And boy did I find it!

I wound it down with Sarah after our last visit a few weeks ago. I felt kinda bad but we're not so sexually compatible (she's super tight and not so wet and I'm thick so sometimes we fail to have lift off!) and she wanted to Netflix and chill vs go dance. What's up with these girls?

Anyhow I started looking again and had some good prospects. Had been in tight contact with a Brasileira who asked 600 but accepted 400 and with Talita who was more girlfriendy and said it doesn't matter too much but 300 would be nice.

Honestly it wasn't the dollars but the attitude both on that topic and the generally daily girlfriendy chat that Talita kept rolling during the final weeks before meetup. So two days before my visit I let the Brasileira drop and went all in on Talita. I was unsure if choosing chemistry over looks would work out (I adore the brasileira look and Talita was highly variable across a handful of pics) but it was the right call for sure. And she turned out to be a 8.5! Pleasant surprise.

We met up at a small Italian restaurant in a toney part of London. Great food. Great service. And we hit it off from the getgo. Chatting came effortlessly and before we knew it we were alone and the chairs being put up (we ran 20 minutes past closing time). So we went walking in the direction of my favorite Soho dance bar.

I escalated a little with arm around her from time to time. And in the club we sat on the same side of booth which increased the intimacy. After one drink I said "want to catch an Uber" and she was down.

We had a Fuckton of difficulty getting an Uber or a cab. But a helpful pedicab guy said over near picadilly is best and we did finally score one. London cabs are the best. Like being on a couch together. Got much more flirty and friendly and my hand on her leg stroking gently the whole 20 min ride.

Up in the room not too much pretense. I think we had mutual chemistry and she was down to fuck. We put on some tunes and started making out. This is definitely one of the best things about Seeking girls it's like real life. In the club there's either no kissing or you pay for some simulation (I've stopped doing that) whereas with a hot 21 year old (she just turned in June) they want to kiss as much as you do!

I push her on her back on the bed and climb on top on all fours and start making out hard and pushing my dick up against her. I can tell she likes being dominated. She's got on a turtleneck but I push up the bottom and find a lovely black bra and pierced nipples just underneath. Her nipples are VERY sensitive but in a good way. So as I lick and suck them deep she starts moaning and grinding.

I slide a bit lower and start to tease her, licking and kissing her belly and at her belt line. I can tell I have her going. I massage her clit a bit through her pants. And then I rear up and start undoing her button and zipper. It's here I learn that she is not shy flower. She is looking me straight in the eye with unbridled lust as I strip her pants and panties off.

I'm a going to give myself an A+ for pussy work. I was feeling inspired and created a masterpiece. Clit licking and swirling and sucking. One finger in and out. Gspot stroking. Two fingers. Round the world clit massage. Gspot with fingers clit with tongue. You name it. I had her shaking like a leaf.

After letting her recover a bit she went down on me. I won't say her BJ is the best but it's adequate. And I get good and hard. It's amazing to see her tight little body going down on me. she can't be more than 90 pounds.

But I can't stand not feeling that pussy. So I swing her into 69. I am def better than she is LOL. But mutual pleasuring is so satisfying.

At one point she's straddling my stomach facing away from me and OMG her butt looks and feels amazing and she's just playing with my dick. And goddamn I want to fuck her so bad It hurts. So I do!

We suit up (May not have to next time) and I go in mish. She's really tight but not problematically so. And damn we go at it. Kissing deep while fucking mish. A fave. All the usual positions and strong pounding. Maybe 30-40 minutes since we started kissing. Then she mounts up on top. A vision. Hard worker but not feeling the build. In fact I have to pee. Goddamn it!

After short break I am not sure if I can crank her up again. But that's on me. So I do. Kissing. Tits. Pussy worship. And man she gets worked up. She has her hardest orgasm this time while I'm finger fucking her with two fingers. She's indicating harder and faster and frankly I am fucking the life out of her. I saw this with the lesbian duo. Some girls really love a deep hard finger fucking and this girl surely does.

Of course we then replace the fingers with something more suitable and then fuck some more. She says doggie is her fave so I give her s good pounding with her smiling over her shoulder, sometimes beckoning for a kiss which I oblige.

Well after tons of fucking (prob 1. 5 hrs total time?) still don't quite get there but we work it out. I lie on my back and start working my shaft and ask her to get on balls. I can tell she's a little tired honestly but she's a trooper. What she does instead is sit on my feet and start acting ridiculously sexy looking into my eyes. Sucking her finger. Getting it wet and making lazy nipple circles. Leaning forward to drool on my cock or give a few tongue taps under the head. More sexy tits and nipples while slip sliding my soaked balls with her hands and fingers and bam! Liftoff!

Wow. A true night of GFE. Wonderful chatty dinner. Arm around. Physical escalation to a crescendo. Dominance. Deep and meaningful kissing. Pussy work till she can honestly hardly walk. No lie. Great fucking. Doe eyes. Sexy AF. The whole package.

Seeking for the win win win!

[Elvis 2008]

Had Google Fi for a few trips now. It's magic. Worth every penny of $73/ month. Works everywhere. Unlimited data. So refreshing vs trying to get local SIM or get by from hotspot to hotspot (not recommended! Def check out Google FI if good comms with girls when you travel is important. Couldn't be happier.

I have a cheap Motorola phone with Google Fi I use as a backup for years, but you do have to activate the SIM card in the USA. And Steve, you are maxing out your data usage. If you use less data, it is even cheaper per month.

When women buy a phone, the #1 thing with them is the camera on the phone. That usually means they want an Iphone, but it is just because the women do not know about the Google Pixel. There is a tech podcast I have been listening to for years and the guy on there is like everyone he knows has a Google Pixel phone because techies know how good and cheap they are in comparison to the Iphone, but Samsung is way more popular to the general population. Like Google Fi, it is just not that advertised, and the Pixel phone really is not sold in third world countries: https://9to5google.com/2022/10/06/pixel-7-countries/.

But even though the phones are not sold there, they work just fine anywhere in the world especially if you have Google Fi.

I bought my gal a Pixel 3 XL on Ebay for $150 and she says it takes better photos than the Iphone. And right now, Amazon is selling a brank new Pixel 6 A, which takes amazing photos, for $299.

I had two women I chatted with on seeking who were on the site and lived in Colombia entirely to get a phone, and they were totally uninterested in anything but an Iphone. In hindsight, I do not think the shopping trips and gift giving amounted to any benefit with the women I was seeing, and I do not recommend doing it, but I would consider giving the women a pixel so they could communicate with me and take nice photos of themselves. Pixels are cheap phones that take amazing photos and not that many people know about them.

[Steve 9696]

Had Google Fi for a few trips now. It's magic. Worth every penny of $73/ month. Works everywhere. Unlimited data. So refreshing vs trying to get local SIM or get by from hotspot to hotspot (not recommended! Def check out Google FI if good comms with girls when you travel is important. Couldn't be happier.

[DramaFree11]

I have normally been paying 350 k for 3-4 hour dates, and 400 k to 500 k for TLN. I always try to keep it around $100 or below, this is my comfortable budget and like Elvis said, most girls wouldn't complain. Of course, I also have other costs, like taxis, restaurants, etc but I don't really care about them, since having a great time is my priority, and going out in MDE is really affordable even if you go to a high end venue. I like value too, this is why I prefer MDE over CDMX, because in CDMX similar quality girls are double that rate.

Occasionally, I get quoted 600 k to 1 million COP, but usually pass because I don't like when girls quote me numbers, I'm not interested in hardened pros or spoiled hookers. When it comes down to price negotiation, I give them my comfortable range, take it or leave it. Read my recent post in the Bogota thread about it.

I am not going to argue that MDE is cheaper then CDMX, but for me time is money. The girls I deal with are on time for the most part or at least let me know when they will be late. The girls is CDMX that I am meeting on SA are definitely smarter, less drama and more honest then the Colombian girls.

There is absolutely no issues with Drugs or Violence in CDMX unless you go looking for it. Also, I do not have to deal with all the low end sex tourist in Colombia. Not to mention the shitty music and food in Colombia. Both places have attractive girls.

[MiamiBoy1]

I'm in the process of reading through this forum as I usually post in the city thread. But my question is, what kinds of rates are you guys being quoted these days in Medellin? Over the past couple years I'd typically find girls quoting 350 k to 450 k in Cali and Barranquilla. I could usually talk them down to 300 k + propina and that worked out great, sometimes for TLN after the first trist with BBBJ and covered sex standard.

The rub is that I'm back in Medellin and using SA here after a 2 year hiatus. The women, many of whom are students, are asking 650 k to 700 k and many hinting at covered for everything. I'm countering with 400 k and met with silence. I'm a clean cut athletic guy in his early 40's, so I don't think they're concerned about my appearance or hygiene. Has it really gotten that expensive out there? I know the exchange is 5 k COP: 1 USD, so prices are going up, but have been very surprised.

The funny thing is that the Facebook girls have only upped their prices by 50 k or so (good ones for 300 k + propina), the Mileroticos girls are still 200 k or so, and I think short time in the casas is still 80 k to 140 k or so depending on place. It's just very odd that SA is so much more. Unsure if it's the OnlyFans dynamic and some of these girls being flown to Europe and Dubai by rich guys or what!

I appreciate the insight of others!

-Chicago.

I have normally been paying 350 k for 3-4 hour dates, and 400 k to 500 k for TLN. I always try to keep it around $100 or below, this is my comfortable budget and like Elvis said, most girls wouldn't complain. Of course, I also have other costs, like taxis, restaurants, etc but I don't really care about them, since having a great time is my priority, and going out in MDE is really affordable even if you go to a high end venue. I like value too, this is why I prefer MDE over CDMX, because in CDMX similar quality girls are double that rate.

Occasionally, I get quoted 600 k to 1 million COP, but usually pass because I don't like when girls quote me numbers, I'm not interested in hardened pros or spoiled hookers. When it comes down to price negotiation, I give them my comfortable range, take it or leave it. Read my recent post in the Bogota thread about it.

[DramaFree11]

Chicago, when you mention COP, I kind of go into a tail spin because 3000 COP used to be close to a $100 and is now $60. When I was there, another monger was paying 200 k which now is $40.

I paid from $80 to $140 and almost all girls were bare, and the average was $100. That $140 sounds outrageous at 700 k but the girl was smoking hot, let me go bare for hours at a time, and she was very skilled.

There was one hot girl in Medellin I paid $75 and went bare with her and later she bitched about how little I paid her. If I gave the women $100, there was no bitching and everyone was willing to repeat.

If you ask this on the Medellin forum where the centro rats live, make sure to cut whatever you paid in half or they will have seizures. But if you just pay $100, whatever the exchange rate, you should not have any trouble.

And I am so sick of the Medellin guys bitching about others "overpaying". You should not be doing SA if $100 is a lot of money to you. It is apples to oranges. The quality of women I was getting in Colombia for $100 was outrageously cheap, and it would be 5 X that in the USA or more.

If you want $10 or $20 pussy, sure go to Centro in Medellin or Santa Fe in Bogota, but every guy who criticized me for paying $100 for a SA girl had never used the service themselves. We are not in competition with them for their WGs, but those idiots think we are. Fuck them. Do not buy into their penny pitching habits. For us, $25 is nothing. For the women, it is a ton.

Elvis, so true, those guys on the MDE page complain about everything. I think if the sex was free, they would still complain. Good luck in MDE, remember safely first, MDE can be dangerous. You can read my thoughts about MDE, they are not good, I will leave it that.

[Chicago85]

Chicago, when you mention COP, I kind of go into a tail spin because 3000 COP used to be close to a $100 and is now $60. When I was there, another monger was paying 200 k which now is $40.

I paid from $80 to $140 and almost all girls were bare, and the average was $100. That $140 sounds outrageous at 700 k but the girl was smoking hot, let me go bare for hours at a time, and she was very skilled.

There was one hot girl in Medellin I paid $75 and went bare with her and later she bitched about how little I paid her. If I gave the women $100, there was no bitching and everyone was willing to repeat.

If you ask this on the Medellin forum where the centro rats live, make sure to cut whatever you paid in half or they will have seizures. But if you just pay $100, whatever the exchange rate, you should not have any trouble.

And I am so sick of the Medellin guys bitching about others "overpaying". You should not be doing SA if $100 is a lot of money to you. It is apples to oranges. The quality of women I was getting in Colombia for $100 was outrageously cheap, and it would be 5 X that in the USA or more..

Thank you very much Elvis. I appreciate your depth of insight here as well as on the Medelln forum and agree that guys are often comparing apples to oranges (and even bananas sometimes). $100 is not a lot of money for me, but I unfortunately have that ingrained Midwestern trait of wanting to get value for what I pay LOL. Of course doing bareback, multiple pops, and the girl being gorgeous is worth all of that (and up to $140). I'm also here for 3 weeks on this trip so was trying to be thoughtful in feeling 'the goring rate' out first. I was in Panama City a few weeks back and paying $100 to $140 there and felt fine as it was 'the going rate'. Very hot women too.

Since I wrote one girl came back and was fine with 300 k, but still waiting on the others. I think I'll try 400 k with them as you suggest and for a couple of the really hot ones that I haven't discussed price with yet will propose 500 k ($100). There are a few that are older and very into that game that I just know to avoid... one well travelled prepago from Costa Risa suggested that we do a Guatape helicopter tour, mountain top dinner, and I pay for TLN on the first date as an 'exclusive romantic package' (crazy).

Some part of it may also be that it's earlier in the week. I've found girls become much more communicative towards the weekend as they arrange their plans and try to fit in a trick.

[Elvis 2008]

Steve I used to think the same. Now that I am hanging out in CDMX and MTY. Crazy sex is the norm. I mean almost no rules. I am rotating 5 or 6 college girls and they are all total freaks. All love Anal and Rimming, what more can I ask for.

MTY is cool, but I am not sure you would like MTY. I am sure you would love CDMX. I miss Europe, but I am so happy in Mexico, no need to travel overseas any more. I miss Russia, but that is not an option anytime soon, but I had already made the decision that I would not return prior to Covid. Give CDMX a shot.

DF, you have an interesting take on the one versus many issue, and I am not advocating for either way. Being with five women versus one sexually is more fun, and it prevents the sex from getting tiresome for sure, and it almost always is exciting.

The hard part is how many women are really worthy of commitment. What I mean is how many women are there really who are not going to let you carry all the weight of the relationship? All this feminine bullshit aside, I am in an industry where the pay is set by third parties including government, and the government sure as hell is not paying men more then women. Still, men make more because they take on the harder jobs and work longer hours. The issue I have found is women do not want to be treated like WGs but often they act just like them if not worse.

So finding someone attractive, good in the sack, and who wants to contribute to a relationship sadly is so rare for most guys it is not an issue. It is best to keep 5 women around and if one acts up, you boot her and move on to another.

What is different with you and Steve is he is married and the benefit of you going deep with one women are really not going to benefit married men. With a married guy, a woman is going to perform possibly really well, but there is a piece of her that she is going to hold back. I know married guys do not want to hear that but it is true. Yeah, you can not tell women you are married or lie to them but if they find out and they do invest their heart in you, they are probably going to move on when they learned you lied to them. What I am getting at though is when an extremely talented and hot woman totally gives herself to you and trusts you that is the best sex there is.

And married guys have a legitimate relationship they can always go to. Single guys do not, and you think it does not wear on you but it does. Even if you try to make it out that the women are not WGs, and you like them, the WG image with your five or so women does bubble up from time to time. And the women know you are seeing other women and may say they are okay with it, but they would all prefer to just be with one guy because of the stigma it puts on them. If they got bills to pay, and you are spending money on other women, that can be hard for them to take.

Also, you have to hide what you are doing from your family and friends to some degree and to customs to some degree. Mr. E says he tells customs when he was in Colombia he went for pussy but I think that is a bad idea. Like with the women thinking they are WGs, I would tell myself, "Eh, it is not that big of a deal", but it adds weight. Men are always saying they can handle stuff and handle the stress, but often, I notice what a weight it is when the pressure and stress are no longer there.

And it has been a relief not to hide what I was doing. Instead of saying I am going to Mexico or Colombia for an unknown reason, I can tell everyone I am seeing my GF. I have not had to hide from family and friends what I have been doing, and there have been connections made between my family and friends and hers. We are driven by sex so you might not think this matters, but it has mattered to me. There is a kind of stress and shame when you going up against societal norms, even though we deny there is, and it has been nice to have that gone.

I am not saying one way is better than the other, and no guy should go the route of one woman only just to do it. There are just too few women especially today worthy of commitment. A guy's happiness is way more important than societal norms. I just wanted to bring up the pluses and minuses as I have seen them of having five women versus one.

[Elvis 2008]

I'm in the process of reading through this forum as I usually post in the city thread. But my question is, what kinds of rates are you guys being quoted these days in Medellin? Over the past couple years I'd typically find girls quoting 350 k to 450 k in Cali and Barranquilla. I could usually talk them down to 300 k + propina and that worked out great, sometimes for TLN after the first trist with BBBJ and covered sex standard.

The rub is that I'm back in Medellin and using SA here after a 2 year hiatus. The women, many of whom are students, are asking 650 k to 700 k and many hinting at covered for everything. I'm countering with 400 k and met with silence. I'm a clean cut athletic guy in his early 40's, so I don't think they're concerned about my appearance or hygiene. Has it really gotten that expensive out there? I know the exchange is 5 k COP: 1 USD, so prices are going up, but have been very surprised..

Chicago, when you mention COP, I kind of go into a tail spin because 3000 COP used to be close to a $100 and is now $60. When I was there, another monger was paying 200 k which now is $40.

I paid from $80 to $140 and almost all girls were bare, and the average was $100. That $140 sounds outrageous at 700 k but the girl was smoking hot, let me go bare for hours at a time, and she was very skilled.

There was one hot girl in Medellin I paid $75 and went bare with her and later she bitched about how little I paid her. If I gave the women $100, there was no bitching and everyone was willing to repeat.

If you ask this on the Medellin forum where the centro rats live, make sure to cut whatever you paid in half or they will have seizures. But if you just pay $100, whatever the exchange rate, you should not have any trouble.

And I am so sick of the Medellin guys bitching about others "overpaying". You should not be doing SA if $100 is a lot of money to you. It is apples to oranges. The quality of women I was getting in Colombia for $100 was outrageously cheap, and it would be 5 X that in the USA or more.

If you want $10 or $20 pussy, sure go to Centro in Medellin or Santa Fe in Bogota, but every guy who criticized me for paying $100 for a SA girl had never used the service themselves. We are not in competition with them for their WGs, but those idiots think we are. Fuck them. Do not buy into their penny pitching habits. For us, $25 is nothing. For the women, it is a ton.

[Chicago85]

I'm in the process of reading through this forum as I usually post in the city thread. But my question is, what kinds of rates are you guys being quoted these days in Medellin? Over the past couple years I'd typically find girls quoting 350 k to 450 k in Cali and Barranquilla. I could usually talk them down to 300 k + propina and that worked out great, sometimes for TLN after the first trist with BBBJ and covered sex standard.

The rub is that I'm back in Medellin and using SA here after a 2 year hiatus. The women, many of whom are students, are asking 650 k to 700 k and many hinting at covered for everything. I'm countering with 400 k and met with silence. I'm a clean cut athletic guy in his early 40's, so I don't think they're concerned about my appearance or hygiene. Has it really gotten that expensive out there? I know the exchange is 5 k COP: 1 USD, so prices are going up, but have been very surprised.

The funny thing is that the Facebook girls have only upped their prices by 50 k or so (good ones for 300 k + propina), the Mileroticos girls are still 200 k or so, and I think short time in the casas is still 80 k to 140 k or so depending on place. It's just very odd that SA is so much more. Unsure if it's the OnlyFans dynamic and some of these girls being flown to Europe and Dubai by rich guys or what!

I appreciate the insight of others!

-Chicago.

[Steve 9696]

Actually you know you are right. I think what I am actually describing is 20% Shayla connection and 80% the difference between a pro vs a seeking girl you really get on with. Now that I think about it, Kayla and Mika were 80% as good. And a few others very very good also. The real comparison is a Seeking girl who you establish comfort with vs a pro. There really is no contest. Tho I can think back to Diva girls who have amazing BBBJ. Much better than what I found in Austria, Germany, or Costa del Sol.

Doh almost forgot my duo with two totally newbie college girls in Cinci who were true lesbian lovers. That was the most epic sex on planet earth. BJ while DFK. Double BJ — one on balls and one on shaft. Fucking one doggie while she two fingers her friend in a frenzy. Learned a ton about female anatomy that night! 😂 That was true epic sex. No emotional connection whatsoever with me. Tons with each other. And of course Seeking for the win once again!

[Steve 9696]

Steve I used to think the same. Now that I am hanging out in CDMX and MTY. Crazy sex is the norm. I mean almost no rules. I am rotating 5 or 6 college girls and they are all total freaks. All love Anal and Rimming, what more can I ask for.

MTY is cool, but I am not sure you would like MTY. I am sure you would love CDMX. I miss Europe, but I am so happy in Mexico, no need to travel overseas any more. I miss Russia, but that is not an option anytime soon, but I had already made the decision that I would not return prior to Covid. Give CDMX a shot.

Actually you know you are right. I think what I am actually describing is 20% Shayla connection and 80% the difference between a pro vs a seeking girl you really get on with. Now that I think about it, Kayla and Mika were 80% as good. And a few others very very good also. The real comparison is a Seeking girl who you establish comfort with vs a pro. There really is no contest. Tho I can think back to Diva girls who have amazing BBBJ. Much better than what I found in Austria, Germany, or Costa del Sol.