Seeking Arrangements

[EuropeanDmv75]

Want to ask my fellow Seekers something.

My best seeking experiences have been in major cities. Mexico City, Barcelona, New York, etc. Pretty sure this is because the pool is always being filled with new competition.

But I want to go to Eastern Europe.

Anyone themselves been to Eastern European markets with excellent supplies of Seekers?

Is London any good? (I'the assume it's expensive, like nyc, where my 350 dollar donation won't go far).

If you want to try Eastern Europe, I lived in Warsaw for 2 years (returned one year ago) and had great experiences there. The supply is not as great as London or Mexico City but there are enough girls to have fun. During that time I usually paid anywhere between 400 zl to 800 zl (about 100 to 200 usd). With inflation it may require more now but I would say that you will be able to find some nice girl for 200-250 euro with no problems.

I was actually planning to return to visit some friends and I was thinking of flying from there to Riga and spend a few days there. So I have been doing some research and talked to a couple of girls. Here is what I got.

Megija (22) - 150 Euro per encounter (few hours).

https://members.seeking.com/member/1...1-a4bcb974d501

We have been sexting and she seems fun. She even has an free Onlyfans if you want to check some of her pictures (she sent me some naughty ones in Whatsapp).

https://onlyfans.com/madlenaxoxo

Chanel (30) - We agreed in 400 Euro for the week (2-3 times).

https://members.seeking.com/member/e...c-b8706f547d7a

We have been chatting a lot. She seems legit.

[ShadowGuy22]

Looking for advice on where to go next, heading to Medellin in the next 2 weeks and I wanted to go to another country or 2 in Latin America before the year is over.

My criteria is great quality seeking girls, decent weather (not too hot), good food, and decent internet.

Currently considering:

Mexico.

Costa Rica.

Panama.

Peru.

Ecuador.

[Steve 9696]

Want to ask my fellow Seekers something.

My best seeking experiences have been in major cities. Mexico City, Barcelona, New York, etc. Pretty sure this is because the pool is always being filled with new competition.

But I want to go to Eastern Europe.

Anyone themselves been to Eastern European markets with excellent supplies of Seekers?

Is London any good? (I'the assume it's expensive, like nyc, where my 350 dollar donation won't go far).

I've had good experiences in London. You should be able to find something at $350. Or maybe $400.

My last girl wanted 400 £ but we agreed 400 first time and 300 other times. That's like $330 or something.

Have two girls lined up for visit coming up. A Brazilian asked 600 £ and accepted 400 £. And a much more "college girl type" said 300 £ right out the gate and implied there was room to move but I didn't try because it's a good deal.

[AmericanPi]

Want to ask my fellow Seekers something.

My best seeking experiences have been in major cities. Mexico City, Barcelona, New York, etc. Pretty sure this is because the pool is always being filled with new competition.

But I want to go to Eastern Europe.

Anyone themselves been to Eastern European markets with excellent supplies of Seekers?

Is London any good? (I'the assume it's expensive, like nyc, where my 350 dollar donation won't go far).

[AmericanPi]

Your first FKK!

It was life changing for me.

The first time. After that it's like your second time to Disneyland. Good but the magic doesn't have as much pixie dust.

Enjoy every minute. It's not often as adults you get true first times of things. And FKK is def a unique experience.

I've thought back on this multiple times and my little head never encouraged me to make the move. There is usually a feeling that propels you forward to touch her, kiss her or pull her to you, either to be welcomed or rejected, but even that didn't happen. I literally had nothing at all. I've only felt this feeling with girls that I didn't find attractive. Perhaps there was something about her that really rubbed me the wrong way subconsciously? IDK.

I'll be in EU in the next few weeks and I intend to get the FKK experience under my belt. It sounds like it's something to try and from what I've read the girls can be sharks, the sex only okay, and the selection underwhelming; YMMV obv; it sounds super interesting, but at the same time I don't have high hopes. I'm a DFK dude that refuses to pay extra for it (hence why I default to SBs) There are only 2 days that can be used for FKK, so the mission will be to Penelope (near Essen) and Artemis (2 for comparison's sake). If you guys know of any FKKs near Essen that are more worth it than Penelope, I'm all ears and willing to travel about an hour.

The bonus is that I'll be starting the trip with a few days with Maria. Texts from her have become almost daily and she seems to be super excited with my return. TBH, I'm not quite sure where we sit? LOL. Great sex, she is ready to ditch the condoms and go on birth control (after a mutual std screening first) and she doesn't want cash and doesn't behave like an SB. It's almost as if she is behaving like a long distance GF that knows better than to outwardly apply the term, but has mentioned that we should be 1 on 1. I'm along for the ride and enjoying the scenery LOL.

The last SB that wanted to take things further wasn't able to handle the terms. I gave it a shot and made her aware that I will come and go as I please without a "need" to inform or involve. It sounds harsh, but that's why SBs are so awesome (and I won't have my moves influenced by an SB); there is a freedom that comes with privacy and she simply wasn't able to handle it. Maria, in this case seems to completely understand the terms and doesn't want anything from it. Like I mentioned, interesting and fun but each step forward is with caution.

[Steve 9696]

As I wrote in an earlier post, I am also in uncharted waters and I got my camera out taking pictures and making sure not to miss the scenery LOL.

It's all about the experience and the act of exploration. It's awesome that in your travels you have found a girl with an unbelievable sex drive, especially when there are guys out there that have mediocre to bad sex their entire life LOL. That's what amazing about an arrangement / agreement. You define the rules from scratch (nothing pre-existing) and end up with a delightful game to play LOL. LOL. No one is misled, old school definitions can be thrown out the window (GF, mistress, etc) and you can just exist in the new f (x) that you have created.

I know you don't expect exclusivity and you mentioned don't ask don't tell, but are you okay with her having guys over in a place that you foot the bill for (just curious), or is it meaningless as long as you are given supreme priority, leagues above the rest, LOL?

.02

Yeah def having guys to her place (our place) is a line she should not cross. I've not said it but she surely knows that's a boundary to not cross. I have a key and usually let myself in if she doesn't answer right away. She's an interesting beast and it feels like she's exclusive because she's always available when I ask and she's says "stop by any time honey". In fact I saw her four times a week ago and then a couple times this week including passionate sex two different times this week. It's become much more organic. Def a great new adventure.

Its interesting what u say about the rules. About two weeks ago she was def lower prioritizing me relative to her friends and it felt weird. We are much more bfgf than SBSD so it didnt feel right to say Im paying so u need to do x. I just told her it made me really unhappy that she was prioritizing her friends above me. Well she damn well changed. Shes been all about me ever since. Im not saying its cuz she cares about me more. Shes a smart cookie and knows Im both a BF and a meal ticket. But it def worked to have a talk. All smiles and fucking ever since. The only complaint she has is when I have to cut our time to a couple hours and she begs me to sleepover all the time. First world problems!

[LshRoomer]

Yeah I don't really know the definition. Point was we have moved to a new level in our relationship. Completely new territory for me. Including meeting up and just hanging out, because we can have sex some other day that week (once a week is enough for me on a regular basis). To be clear I don't pay her anything beyond her rent. No extra allowance. Tho I do treat her like a girlfriend like the TV broke and I bought a new one.

At some point I had the don't ask don't tell conversation with her. That I don't expect exclusivity she has a life after all. But if she sees other guys I don't want to know about it. The presumption is this goes both ways. Don't ask don't tell.

As I wrote in an earlier post, I am also in uncharted waters and I got my camera out taking pictures and making sure not to miss the scenery LOL.

It's all about the experience and the act of exploration. It's awesome that in your travels you have found a girl with an unbelievable sex drive, especially when there are guys out there that have mediocre to bad sex their entire life LOL. That's what amazing about an arrangement / agreement. You define the rules from scratch (nothing pre-existing) and end up with a delightful game to play LOL. LOL. No one is misled, old school definitions can be thrown out the window (GF, mistress, etc) and you can just exist in the new f (x) that you have created.

I know you don't expect exclusivity and you mentioned don't ask don't tell, but are you okay with her having guys over in a place that you foot the bill for (just curious), or is it meaningless as long as you are given supreme priority, leagues above the rest, LOL?

.02

[LshRoomer]

I had an initial lunch date with a SB prospect. She had lots going for her. She told me she about her marriage, her kids, her interests and that she's allowed to play. Went parking for a while and trying to get things happening. Nothing felt natural at all. I dropped her back to her home and texted her after thanks but no thanks.

Maybe the swingers' game is different to the SB / SD game.

I've thought back on this multiple times and my little head never encouraged me to make the move. There is usually a feeling that propels you forward to touch her, kiss her or pull her to you, either to be welcomed or rejected, but even that didn't happen. I literally had nothing at all. I've only felt this feeling with girls that I didn't find attractive. Perhaps there was something about her that really rubbed me the wrong way subconsciously? IDK.

I'll be in EU in the next few weeks and I intend to get the FKK experience under my belt. It sounds like it's something to try and from what I've read the girls can be sharks, the sex only okay, and the selection underwhelming; YMMV obv; it sounds super interesting, but at the same time I don't have high hopes. I'm a DFK dude that refuses to pay extra for it (hence why I default to SBs) There are only 2 days that can be used for FKK, so the mission will be to Penelope (near Essen) and Artemis (2 for comparison's sake). If you guys know of any FKKs near Essen that are more worth it than Penelope, I'm all ears and willing to travel about an hour.

The bonus is that I'll be starting the trip with a few days with Maria. Texts from her have become almost daily and she seems to be super excited with my return. TBH, I'm not quite sure where we sit? LOL. Great sex, she is ready to ditch the condoms and go on birth control (after a mutual std screening first) and she doesn't want cash and doesn't behave like an SB. It's almost as if she is behaving like a long distance GF that knows better than to outwardly apply the term, but has mentioned that we should be 1 on 1. I'm along for the ride and enjoying the scenery LOL.

The last SB that wanted to take things further wasn't able to handle the terms. I gave it a shot and made her aware that I will come and go as I please without a "need" to inform or involve. It sounds harsh, but that's why SBs are so awesome (and I won't have my moves influenced by an SB); there is a freedom that comes with privacy and she simply wasn't able to handle it. Maria, in this case seems to completely understand the terms and doesn't want anything from it. Like I mentioned, interesting and fun but each step forward is with caution.

[WyattEarp]

Well I do hate the word monger because it's a complete misuse of the word. Monger means to market / sell. And I'm buying not selling! So yeah def not a monger. But I like the term girl enthusiast and I think that describes me well.

I always found the UK term "punter" intriguing. I don't know if it is considered very derogatory when used in the ISG sense.

[The Cane]

I also think that they are mixed, but why are you guys assuming that the mix is between Black and White? The question they are answering as mixed is ethnicity. There are other ethnicities besides Black and White, American Indian or Alaska Native, Asian, Hispanic or Latino and Native Hawaiian or Other Pacific Islander.

It was AmericanPi who made that faulty assumption. For purposes of replying to his specific post on the matter only, I went with that, but obviously all kinds of "ethnic mix" is possible (and actually is). A broader point I make on it now is that so many of the profile pictures featuring supposedly "mixed" women are of women so white in their appearance that if they were trying to hide or deny something, as AmericanPi suggests, then why not just say they're white / Caucasian then? Because nobody would know any different based on their looks. They could "pass" without being questioned. Seems like I may have stirred up a hornet's nest here, but it was a serious inquiry about a phenomenon I'm seeing on SA. And I mean a lot! If it was like only a few profiles here and there OK. But I'm seeing a hell of a lot of them from women who claim to be living in my metro area (saying they're "mixed" but look like Marilyn Monroe LOL), and I was wondering if anybody else had noticed the same thing and had wondered about it like I have. That's all.

[Houston Player]

Well personally I think they are mixed. To me it's the silliest thing in the world that in the US if you have any black at all you are considered black. What nonsense. If a white guy and a black girl get together and have a kid that kid is mixed! African w N European say. To say they are black is patently silly. We dont do this with any other ethnicity. Why this exception?

I also think that they are mixed, but why are you guys assuming that the mix is between Black and White? The question they are answering as mixed is ethnicity. There are other ethnicities besides Black and White, American Indian or Alaska Native, Asian, Hispanic or Latino and Native Hawaiian or Other Pacific Islander.

[Steve 9696]

I think it may just be a matter of semantics. What really makes a SB a mistress? Does a monthly allowance qualify? In Asian culture, guys with financial means usually tend to keep a mistress. They will pay for the girl's apartment plus monthly allowance, and will visit them when they feel like it. It sounds like the arrangement you currently have right now.

By the way, did your mistress made any request that you stay exclusive with her or maybe she's just okay with you meeting other girls?

Yeah I don't really know the definition. Point was we have moved to a new level in our relationship. Completely new territory for me. Including meeting up and just hanging out, because we can have sex some other day that week (once a week is enough for me on a regular basis). To be clear I don't pay her anything beyond her rent. No extra allowance. Tho I do treat her like a girlfriend like the TV broke and I bought a new one.

At some point I had the don't ask don't tell conversation with her. That I don't expect exclusivity — she has a life after all. But if she sees other guys I don't want to know about it. The presumption is this goes both ways. Don't ask don't tell.

[Ggekko2009]

To start with Shayla is officially my mistress. No more PPM. She's a kept woman. I pay for her place and she is the best girlfriend a guy could ever ask for. Didn't think I'the ever get to this level but 40 Seeking girls later I officially have a mistress.

I think it may just be a matter of semantics. What really makes a SB a mistress? Does a monthly allowance qualify? In Asian culture, guys with financial means usually tend to keep a mistress. They will pay for the girl's apartment plus monthly allowance, and will visit them when they feel like it. It sounds like the arrangement you currently have right now.

By the way, did your mistress made any request that you stay exclusive with her or maybe she's just okay with you meeting other girls?

[Steve 9696]

Let's be politically incorrect for a second.

In my experience, most of the girls who claim to be mixed, are actually black. If I'm being honest I think they mark mixed to not be weeded out by guys who don't dig black chicks so much. But they're clearly black.

I don't need to hear that you yourself love black chicks and the world is a rainbow. Just calling the shots as I see them.

Well personally I think they are mixed. To me it's the silliest thing in the world that in the US if you have any black at all you are considered black. What nonsense. If a white guy and a black girl get together and have a kid that kid is mixed! African w N European say. To say they are black is patently silly. We don’t do this with any other ethnicity. Why this exception?

[The Cane]

Let's be politically incorrect for a second.

In my experience, most of the girls who claim to be mixed, are actually black. If I'm being honest I think they mark mixed to not be weeded out by guys who don't dig black chicks so much. But they're clearly black.

I don't need to hear that you yourself love black chicks and the world is a rainbow. Just calling the shots as I see them.

Did you actually read what I wrote? You certainly didn't comprehend it. I said that there are women marking themselves as "mixed" who look white as rice, and that there are a lot of them with that kind of look doing it, raising my suspicions about those profiles as being fakes (along with other things I have come to view as fraud indicators). There's no way in hell anybody would look at them and view them as being "actually black" as you put it, thus subjecting them to being weeded out by guys who don't like black women. So, my question is why? What is going on here with these profiles? Why are they doing this? As for myself, and for your edification, I'm not sexually attracted to most black (or Asian) women. The Latinas and the white girls are the ones who float my boat. It's why I've paid any attention to these profiles in the first place. The women look "actually white" to me LOL! Here is an example of what I'm talking about. Does she look "actually black" to you? And there are plenty of others indicating "mixed" whose skin is as white as feta cheese! What's the deal? Doesn't pass the smell test. Something fishy going on here. Hmmm?

https://members.seeking.com/member/b...9-6cedbd948d26