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Finishing the Long Weekend in CDMX
Tuesday was just as good as all the other days. 3 sessions. First, girl hung out at the apartment all morning, she arrived at 7:30, took a nap and then we had sex. I was under the impression we would have multiple sessions, this did not happen, but was still fun. Short hot skinny girl. The second girl, I am seeing regularly, she is a solid 8, maybe 9. Total freak in bed, no rules and loves sex. Her parents are very strict, so we can only hang out for a couple hours. I would totally commit to her.
The last meeting is super hot and freak as well. She is doing her on-line course, in my shirt and no panties. We had sex before class and will have sex during the break. So cool!
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Top FKKs
Originally Posted by WyattEarp
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AmericanPi, can you clarify why you consider Oase and Sharks "granddaddy" FKKs?
Is it because the male customers are older or is because these two famous FKKs have been around a long time? Thanks.
Sharks is widely considered the best FKK in Germany (possibly the world — some like Globe in Switzerland better) and Oase number 2 tho some will argue the order. Either way they are pretty widely considered 1 and 2. Best combo of classy facilities and girl line up.
My personal nod goes to Sharks which is significantly bigger than Oase. It's quite the spectacle with 50 ft high ceilings and big open area with girls roaming about. There is some bitching in the Sharks thread about the lineup and price increases but meh I'm sure there are hotties to be found. I'll let you know next month!
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Originally Posted by AmericanPi
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Thanks for that great perspective.
I have done FKK several times in Frankfurt. Go to one of the granddaddy ones, like Oase north of the city or sharks south.
It's like Disneyland the first time you go. Seriously. It's amazing. It's hard to describe. But like many things each subsequent time you go loses some luster. So really enjoy that first time. Plan to stay all day. Bring lots of cash even if it's not expensive so you're not rationing yourself.
AmericanPi, can you clarify why you consider Oase and Sharks "granddaddy" FKKs?
Is it because the male customers are older or is because these two famous FKKs have been around a long time? Thanks.
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Originally Posted by NeilGeorge
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The second time you see them you can smell their pussy before DATY. If it smells like rotten fish, then someone else has been tapping into and unloading into that pussy. If it smells fresh, then stick it in!
I would guess that most of the girls on SA are banging other guys, besides their arrangements. Most have boyfriends, fuck buddies, or husband in addition to us.
You can spend a lot of time and negative energy dwelling on this. Like most say if you follow your girls on Social Media you are probably in for a rude awakening. Enjoy the moment, practice as much safe sex as possible. Most of all have fun.
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Originally Posted by Elvis2008
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Like DF said, guys should not care about this. She should be loyal when she is with you and that is all you should ask for.
If you want to enforce this, you can look at their phone or social media accounts. Social media is a way you advertise yourself. If you see a girl next to the new new thing, that is a bad sign. Any time a seeking woman is dining at a great restaurant and not showing their companion, a sugar daddy is paying for it. And women live their lives on their phones. You can practically see everywhere she has been with it. I have never been creepy enough to do that, but if it were an exclusive arrangement, you could insist on it. Google has a places you have been time line that is scary accurate. If you want exclusive, focus on the women hanging with their family and non-sleazy friends. I am not religious but church going women are more loyal IMO.
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Why are you turning this into work? I remember a scene at a club where a guy paid for a night and spent the time guarding the girl from others who approached her. Pathetic. If you are paying her, she should be serving you. Otherwise, you are not paying enough, or you should kick her to the curb.
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Smell that pussy the second time, if rotten fish, then someone else has been tapping
Originally Posted by Elvis2008
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Usually the best sex I have with a woman is the second time I see them... I think I do a better job of screening than most men, and I do not trust myself with this.
The second time you see them you can smell their pussy before DATY. If it smells like rotten fish, then someone else has been tapping into and unloading into that pussy. If it smells fresh, then stick it in!
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Originally Posted by Elvis2008
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Like DF said, guys should not care about this. She should be loyal when she is with you and that is all you should ask for.
If you want to enforce this, you can look at their phone or social media accounts. Social media is a way you advertise yourself. If you see a girl next to the new new thing, that is a bad sign. Any time a seeking woman is dining at a great restaurant and not showing their companion, a sugar daddy is paying for it. And women live their lives on their phones. You can practically see everywhere she has been with it. I have never been creepy enough to do that, but if it were an exclusive arrangement, you could insist on it. Google has a places you have been time line that is scary accurate. If you want exclusive, focus on the women hanging with their family and non-sleazy friends. I am not religious but church going women are more loyal IMO.
With seeking, if you make someone a favorite, you can see when she last logged in. Even if she hides the log in times, you can see based on the other women when she logged in. Obviously, if she is logging in all the time, she is seeking out other men.
Hotels are key. You want women who are blown away by them and do not understand what to do. A woman who pulls her ID at the check in counter without being asked is a WG. The same goes for a woman who raids the mini bar without asking.
And you want women who are not there for the money and do not expect to be paid. If you do give them money, how long do they stick around afterwards? Are they trying to impress you with things other than sex? Do they introduce you to their family and friends? If they stick around, do things other than sex, and introduce you the people in their life, they are candidates to be exclusive.
Why would I guy do this? Well, the guys who have done this a while may meet women they could not hope to score by other means. The women I have met on seeking and dated are by far the best looking, best in bed, and most interesting women I have met. Still, most are fucked up in one way or another, but then you meet one that is not.
Usually the best sex I have with a woman is the second time I see them, but if it is really great, then why would I waste my time trying to find someone else as good? Why am I wasting my time playing "Does she really like me or my money" game? Why am I risking my time with a great one versus pursuing another who might be a no show?
At some point, you come to the realization that the one you have in hand is almost always going to be better than the next girl. You just need to have people particularly other women you trust confirm for you that the woman is really interested in you. I think I do a better job of screening than most men, and I do not trust myself with this.
The word exclusive is not part of my vocabulary, unless many of the things above happen. Also, we would have to be living together.
I am living a dream at the moment in CDMX. This by the best time in my life, by far. I am meeting incredible girls and having the best sex of my life.
One thing that you did not mention is I will not deal with family issues. This is a major deal in Mexican families, especially the mom's. A large percentage of them are Jealous, controlling and sabotage there daughter's lives. It is just crazy. This more of issue in MTY, not as bad in CDMX, but it is still a problem.
One more day in CDMX. I had 2 meetings Saturday, Sunday 4, Monday 3. We will see what happens Tuesday. I also tried a new Italian Restaurant, just incredible.
One of my regular girls from MTY had layover in CDMX tonight, she is spending the night and leaving in morning. It will be a great night!!
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Originally Posted by NeilGeorge
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Just wondering if you promise a SB an exclusive arrangement, then have 2-3 others on the side? Do you think the SB is also being unfaithful to you? Or that is the excitement of not knowing and lying a little?
Like DF said, guys should not care about this. She should be loyal when she is with you and that is all you should ask for.
If you want to enforce this, you can look at their phone or social media accounts. Social media is a way you advertise yourself. If you see a girl next to the new new thing, that is a bad sign. Any time a seeking woman is dining at a great restaurant and not showing their companion, a sugar daddy is paying for it. And women live their lives on their phones. You can practically see everywhere she has been with it. I have never been creepy enough to do that, but if it were an exclusive arrangement, you could insist on it. Google has a places you have been time line that is scary accurate. If you want exclusive, focus on the women hanging with their family and non-sleazy friends. I am not religious but church going women are more loyal IMO.
With seeking, if you make someone a favorite, you can see when she last logged in. Even if she hides the log in times, you can see based on the other women when she logged in. Obviously, if she is logging in all the time, she is seeking out other men.
Hotels are key. You want women who are blown away by them and do not understand what to do. A woman who pulls her ID at the check in counter without being asked is a WG. The same goes for a woman who raids the mini bar without asking.
And you want women who are not there for the money and do not expect to be paid. If you do give them money, how long do they stick around afterwards? Are they trying to impress you with things other than sex? Do they introduce you to their family and friends? If they stick around, do things other than sex, and introduce you the people in their life, they are candidates to be exclusive.
Why would I guy do this? Well, the guys who have done this a while may meet women they could not hope to score by other means. The women I have met on seeking and dated are by far the best looking, best in bed, and most interesting women I have met. Still, most are fucked up in one way or another, but then you meet one that is not.
Usually the best sex I have with a woman is the second time I see them, but if it is really great, then why would I waste my time trying to find someone else as good? Why am I wasting my time playing "Does she really like me or my money" game? Why am I risking my time with a great one versus pursuing another who might be a no show?
At some point, you come to the realization that the one you have in hand is almost always going to be better than the next girl. You just need to have people particularly other women you trust confirm for you that the woman is really interested in you. I think I do a better job of screening than most men, and I do not trust myself with this.
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Originally Posted by DramaFree11
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I do nor care if they are exclusive. If they make my life better, that is all I care about.
Just hope they do not give you crabs or scabies. After a trip to Thailand I had visited BlackBeards in Dom Rep. Then found I had scabies. Not sure where they came from, but I had to wash and shampoo with a special formula to get rid of it.
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Yup. Sounds about the same
Originally Posted by AmericanPi
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Thanks for that great perspective.
I have done FKK several times in Frankfurt. Go to one of the granddaddy ones, like Oase north of the city or sharks south.
It's like Disneyland the first time you go. Seriously. It's amazing. It's hard to describe. But like many things each subsequent time you go loses some luster. So really enjoy that first time. Plan to stay all day. Bring lots of cash even if it's not expensive so you're not rationing yourself.
That sounds pretty inline with what I have heard from others. Pretty much, give it a shot; it might not be your thing, but at least taste the ice cream. I'll probably be in Hamburg, but def in Berlin and from what I can see, the clubs there are ok in Hamburg and the one club in Berlin is hit or miss. I'm going to give it a shot and see how it goes. I know this isn't the right forum, but I'll still report back for others that may have the same thoughts. I know Frankfurt has the bigger clubs, and I can go to Frankfurt, but it puts me out of my way to get to Berlin. It's the differnce between a 4. 5 HR train ride and an 1. 5 HR train ride. Besides that, I've never been to either city, and I've heard to Hamburg is nicer. All things to consider.
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Originally Posted by Midwestern
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I've had exclusive arrangements with SBs. At first, it drove me nuts wondering if they were being faithful to me. And I eventually found out that one was being unfaithful. I was pretty upset, but then I decided to let it go, and now I don't care if they are unfaithful to me. I might still ask for exclusive arrangements, and maybe some are faithful and some are unfaithful, but I no longer care and that makes me happier, probably also because I am never faithful anyway.
On a related note, I never explicitly cut ties with an SB, especially if they were PPM to begin with. For ones that were monthly arrangements, I don't cut ties with them when I want to stop the arrangement, I just tell them that I suddenly am experiencing money problems and cannot keep the arrangement anymore. I never say that I am breaking up with them. Where it goes from here, it's up to them.
I do nor care if they are exclusive. If they make my life better, that is all I care about.
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Originally Posted by NeilGeorge
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Just wondering if you promise a SB an exclusive arrangement, then have 2-3 others on the side? Do you think the SB is also being unfaithful to you? Or that is the excitement of not knowing and lying a little?
Not trying to be judgey mc judge, but any dude that thinks he can pay a girl a fixed amount and she will turn away from sex with anyone else is a fool.
Put yourself back in your shoes in your twenties. You think you're going to meet someone you're attracted to, who maybe you might be interested in, and head home from the bar early for fear you might do something irresponsible? Please. A sugar baby is by definition someone in a relationship for money. These are often great girls, but they are not innocent.
You can't buy fidelity.
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Originally Posted by NeilGeorge
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Just wondering if you promise a SB an exclusive arrangement, then have 2-3 others on the side? Do you think the SB is also being unfaithful to you? Or that is the excitement of not knowing and lying a little?
I think exclusive arrangements are feasible only if you live in the same city, or live together. So that you can have sex on demand and have some control over her activities. If she thinks she can get away with having 1-2 side dudes, most likely she will cheat.
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Originally Posted by NeilGeorge
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Just wondering if you promise a SB an exclusive arrangement, then have 2-3 others on the side? Do you think the SB is also being unfaithful to you? Or that is the excitement of not knowing and lying a little?
I've had exclusive arrangements with SBs. At first, it drove me nuts wondering if they were being faithful to me. And I eventually found out that one was being unfaithful. I was pretty upset, but then I decided to let it go, and now I don't care if they are unfaithful to me. I might still ask for exclusive arrangements, and maybe some are faithful and some are unfaithful, but I no longer care and that makes me happier, probably also because I am never faithful anyway.
On a related note, I never explicitly cut ties with an SB, especially if they were PPM to begin with. For ones that were monthly arrangements, I don't cut ties with them when I want to stop the arrangement, I just tell them that I suddenly am experiencing money problems and cannot keep the arrangement anymore. I never say that I am breaking up with them. Where it goes from here, it's up to them.
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Use VPN
Originally Posted by NeilGeorge
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After getting banned from SA, for once mentioning my compensatory rate, I have been looking for another, perhaps better way to meet the 20-25 year old wayward young girls for good sex while in sex prison. Anyone have other sites they would recommend? I have tried getting back on SA with a different email account, different credit card, and apparently they track the IP address so I am banned for life. Any suggestions? I have recently subscribed to SugarDaddy. Com but have not pulled anyone yet off this site. Suggestions please? Thanks.
Those other sites suck big time. Like pay for this pay for that. And even sometimes spam daddies without a girls permission. Generally very disappointing.
When sesta / fosta came on I the US one of my fave sites banned people from the US. So I just set up a VPN app and you can appear from anywhere in the world. So that would solve your IP tracking problem. I'm sure if you search VPN on App Store there will be plenty.
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