Seeking Arrangements

[Steve 9696]

How do you guys deal with situations when your SB dates someone else or has an arrangement with someone else when you are away? Every time I find out my SB fucks somebody, I go nuts. I understand that she is techically free to do whatevere she wants, because my arrangements are not exclusive (no monthly or weekly allowance, just PPM) and while I'm away she needs to pay her bills, have support, be taken care of and be loved / fucked. At the same time, I become super jealous and there is nothing I can do about it. I think the reason this is happeing is because I often, if not always, catch feelings for them. I'm not talking real true love. I'm talking affection, care, friendship, emotional connection. Every time I meet a seeking girl I do my best to make her my regular SB, someone I could see on a regular basis or during my future trips. I have always been traveling to pretty much same countries and cities just because I want to see the girls I had met prior. I try not go hunting unless I really have to and prefer to rely on a few girls that I met before rather than chase new ones. Once I'm away, my SBs don't stay alone for a long time, someone always grabs them. Some girls continue to date guys from Seeking, others find a boyfriend. When I'm away I usually keep in touch with them, especially if I have another trip planned soon. I also follow them on social media, so I have a good idea where they have been and what they been up to.

If I was a weekend warrior traveling places and meeting girls 1-2 times per trip, I probably would not give a fuck about what they do and whom the fuck. But I'm the opposite, I travel for extended periods of time, invest time and effort in building good relationships (even though, ppm, but you know what I mean) and it sucks to see them fucking others. The only solution I see is to stop following them on social media or texting, this way I won't know anything, but not knowing anything would also drive me crazy.

Yeah totally get this. I learned early in my journey to move to a don't ask don't tell policy. After my initial amazing week in London with Thifany I got her IG sorta by accident. And I learned that three weeks later she got engaged! Brasileiras eh? Man it was hard to see her all happy with her fiancée. I was happy for her but it hurt like fuck. I stopped looking.

After that I made it policy to NOT follow any girls social. You know they are partying and fucking random guys but fuck I don't want to see it! I've been much happier.

Actually my home girl Shayla who I am smitten with. I've accidentally run across her active on Seeking a couple times. So she's still on the prowl for one reason or another even tho I think I meet her every need. Did not like that feeling! I have changed my location so she doesn't come up anymore. I've def caught feelings and don't ask don't tell is the only way to mitigate that.

[FilthyBeaver]

If you're not giving them enough to support themselves while you're away and / or have not had the exclusivity talk then what do you expect? If you're naive enough to think you're the only guy she's seen or seeing I have a bridge to sell you that has great toll income for really cheap.

Be smart enough to not want to know the answer to whatever questions are driving you crazy and you'll be at ease. If you can't, this isn't the lifestyle for you.

I'm not jealous but I have fallen for a couple of them. When it ended I was really sad but when it was on I didn't think about things I couldn't control and it really didn't bother me all that much.

How do you guys deal with situations when your SB dates someone else or has an arrangement with someone else when you are away? Every time I find out my SB fucks somebody, I go nuts. I understand that she is techically free to do whatevere she wants, because my arrangements are not exclusive (no monthly or weekly allowance, just PPM) and while I'm away she needs to pay her bills, have support, be taken care of and be loved / fucked. At the same time, I become super jealous and there is nothing I can do about it. I think the reason this is happeing is because I often, if not always, catch feelings for them. I'm not talking real true love. I'm talking affection, care, friendship, emotional connection. Every time I meet a seeking girl I do my best to make her my regular SB, someone I could see on a regular basis or during my future trips. I have always been traveling to pretty much same countries and cities just because I want to see the girls I had met prior. I try not go hunting unless I really have to and prefer to rely on a few girls that I met before rather than chase new ones. Once I'm away, my SBs don't stay alone for a long time, someone always grabs them. Some girls continue to date guys from Seeking, others find a boyfriend. When I'm away I usually keep in touch with them, especially if I have another trip planned soon. I also follow them on social media, so I have a good idea where they have been and what they been up to..

[MiamiBoy1]

How do you guys deal with situations when your SB dates someone else or has an arrangement with someone else when you are away? Every time I find out my SB fucks somebody, I go nuts. I understand that she is techically free to do whatevere she wants, because my arrangements are not exclusive (no monthly or weekly allowance, just PPM) and while I'm away she needs to pay her bills, have support, be taken care of and be loved / fucked. At the same time, I become super jealous and there is nothing I can do about it. I think the reason this is happeing is because I often, if not always, catch feelings for them. I'm not talking real true love. I'm talking affection, care, friendship, emotional connection. Every time I meet a seeking girl I do my best to make her my regular SB, someone I could see on a regular basis or during my future trips. I have always been traveling to pretty much same countries and cities just because I want to see the girls I had met prior. I try not go hunting unless I really have to and prefer to rely on a few girls that I met before rather than chase new ones. Once I'm away, my SBs don't stay alone for a long time, someone always grabs them. Some girls continue to date guys from Seeking, others find a boyfriend. When I'm away I usually keep in touch with them, especially if I have another trip planned soon. I also follow them on social media, so I have a good idea where they have been and what they been up to.

If I was a weekend warrior traveling places and meeting girls 1-2 times per trip, I probably would not give a fuck about what they do and whom the fuck. But I'm the opposite, I travel for extended periods of time, invest time and effort in building good relationships (even though, ppm, but you know what I mean) and it sucks to see them fucking others. The only solution I see is to stop following them on social media or texting, this way I won't know anything, but not knowing anything would also drive me crazy.

[AmorPorFavor]

I've had a couple conversations like this. Her: $500. Me: you are absolutely amazing but that's a bit beyond my budget. Let's do $400? Her: $500. Me: How about this. I really like you an Will want to see you a lot. We do $500 because it's the first meeting. But if we vibe and are seeing each other often we move to $400.

Had this work more than once and if you are fun to hang with they won't think twice about it once you are a thing.

So I guess I should counter offer with $400 and no lower?

[AmorPorFavor]

A little off-topic, but something interesting I learned doing SA and escorts in Mexican cities. All of them. As a gringo you naturally go to the center of town. It's where the safety and action are. I always ask girls where they are coming from because I'm interested. 9 out of 10 times girls live way far away. Not like cities over. But far. In Tijuana it might be south or East Tijuana like Tecate. In CDMX it might be way south of the city center like a 45 minute Uber, or east near the airport which is kind of gritty.

This is not instructive in any way. It's merely interesting. I stay in nice hotels or apartments, and I've come to expect that girls will really linger in the showers. I've realized it's because the bathrooms are not like the ones they have at home. They probably appear to be luxurious and a treat.

Again no specific action on the insight. But interesting to see from their perspective how a 4 star hotel in the city center must appear if you ubered from a working class exurb.

I almost always take girls to really fancy restaurants because that's where I want to eat and I want company. Some girls settle in pretty convincingly. Most appear as fish out of water. Like they order the wrong things. For ex you go to a restaurant with a really well considered wine and cocktail selection, and they'll order a Tecate.

I take my regular girl to one of the nice restaurants in Tijuana every time as well. And they are as good as any in San Diego. But she is from an upper middle class family and has already eaten at most of them so knows how to order the good stuff and helps me with my order. She lives with her family in the suburbs. And, of course, I stay in a nice hotel and she does love the long showers.

[AmericanPi]

A little off-topic, but something interesting I learned doing SA and escorts in Mexican cities. All of them. As a gringo you naturally go to the center of town. It's where the safety and action are. I always ask girls where they are coming from because I'm interested. 9 out of 10 times girls live way far away. Not like cities over. But far. In Tijuana it might be south or East Tijuana like Tecate. In CDMX it might be way south of the city center like a 45 minute Uber, or east near the airport which is kind of gritty.

This is not instructive in any way. It's merely interesting. I stay in nice hotels or apartments, and I've come to expect that girls will really linger in the showers. I've realized it's because the bathrooms are not like the ones they have at home. They probably appear to be luxurious and a treat.

Again no specific action on the insight. But interesting to see from their perspective how a 4 star hotel in the city center must appear if you ubered from a working class exurb.

I almost always take girls to really fancy restaurants because that's where I want to eat and I want company. Some girls settle in pretty convincingly. Most appear as fish out of water. Like they order the wrong things. For ex you go to a restaurant with a really well considered wine and cocktail selection, and they'll order a Tecate.

Guys have different scales. I had no issues getting the 8 types for $100 or $150 for an hour in Mexico City, and that is usually what I got. The 10 types wanted $500, and two out of three times I paid it, and it was worth it, but that was in Mexico City.

You might want to try an allowance after you first date if you are there every weekend. I would not do this unless there was a 10 type but there were two women, one Venezuelan and one Colombian in Mexico City, that were 10 types and down with my seeing them as much as I wanted if I covered their expenses. One wanted $1200 and the other $1500 per month. That is something to consider if you are there every weekend. Both of these women would be in the $1000 in hour club in NYC.

[Steve 9696]

I'm down there every week now for a year and a half for one night, TLN BBFS, with a SB from SA but its getting old. I would rate her an easy 8. I go to HK every now and then. Had a lunch with a smoking hot SB last week, a 10. She is asking $500 and said she would spend 5 hours with me but I doubt it. Its too much as I pay $250 now. Wondering how much to counter with?

I've had a couple conversations like this. Her: $500. Me: you are absolutely amazing but that's a bit beyond my budget. Let's do $400? Her: $500. Me: How about this. I really like you an Will want to see you a lot. We do $500 because it's the first meeting. But if we vibe and are seeing each other often we move to $400.

Had this work more than once and if you are fun to hang with they won't think twice about it once you are a thing.

[Elvis 2008]

I'm down there every week now for a year and a half for one night, TLN BBFS, with a SB from SA but its getting old. I would rate her an easy 8. I go to HK every now and then. Had a lunch with a smoking hot SB last week, a 10. She is asking $500 and said she would spend 5 hours with me but I doubt it. Its too much as I pay $250 now. Wondering how much to counter with?

Guys have different scales. I had no issues getting the 8 types for $100 or $150 for an hour in Mexico City, and that is usually what I got. The 10 types wanted $500, and two out of three times I paid it, and it was worth it, but that was in Mexico City.

You might want to try an allowance after you first date if you are there every weekend. I would not do this unless there was a 10 type but there were two women, one Venezuelan and one Colombian in Mexico City, that were 10 types and down with my seeing them as much as I wanted if I covered their expenses. One wanted $1200 and the other $1500 per month. That is something to consider if you are there every weekend. Both of these women would be in the $1000 in hour club in NYC.

[AmorPorFavor]

There were not that many women there when I looked, and it is pretty easy for women to work the clubs and make decent $ if they are willing to sell their bodies. The strippers in Hong Kong are a little different than USA strippers in that they come from all over Mexico. I hooked up with a beauty from Puerto Vallarta at HK and she badly wanted to show me her home town. I did not follow up on it, but I think that approach to find beauties would bear much more fruit than SA in Tijuana. I think outside the strip club the women will look at you more as SD and less as a mark but I could be wrong. SA is great in the bigger Mexican cities. I had a friend even score big in Cabo.

I'm down there every week now for a year and a half for one night, TLN BBFS, with a SB from SA but its getting old. I would rate her an easy 8. I go to HK every now and then. Had a lunch with a smoking hot SB last week, a 10. She is asking $500 and said she would spend 5 hours with me but I doubt it. Its too much as I pay $250 now. Wondering how much to counter with?

[Elvis 2008]

Has anybody used SA in Tijuana? Any ideas on what would be the most you should pay for a top shelf chica? Like a easy 9 or 10.

There were not that many women there when I looked, and it is pretty easy for women to work the clubs and make decent $ if they are willing to sell their bodies. The strippers in Hong Kong are a little different than USA strippers in that they come from all over Mexico. I hooked up with a beauty from Puerto Vallarta at HK and she badly wanted to show me her home town. I did not follow up on it, but I think that approach to find beauties would bear much more fruit than SA in Tijuana. I think outside the strip club the women will look at you more as SD and less as a mark but I could be wrong. SA is great in the bigger Mexican cities. I had a friend even score big in Cabo.

[Elvis 2008]

The woman is a 9. 9. Intelligent, beautiful, funny, 5'8", blonde, blue eyes, real breasts, no lip fillers, financially stable and fit as fuck.

That is like my gal. If she was on the NYC escort scene, she would be doing $1000+ an hour like your gal would.

She just turned 28, I know too old for some of you. But, I'm 48.

It is 24 years difference with me and my gal.

Treated her like a personal slave, plus he controlled her income, a very very unhealthy relationship.

Pretty much same deal. She had a bad relationship and swore off men. Covid hit, and she was not as active and got lonely.

No money exchange. Last night we went to eat at Black and Blue, I come out of the bathroom and ask for the check and she had paid. The bill was $620 for 2 people.

Whenever a woman does not take money from a guy on seeking, she wants some kind of real relationship. The second part is that when she paid for the bill she is showing you that she wants to be a partner and not a leech. These are very good signs, and I never got them when I was on seeking and married.

After we are done ravaging each other with her hand massaging my balls, she says to me "how about we be exclusive".

I start sweating, lose 2 shades of my complexion. She says "look, I see the amount of ass you slay."

LOL. This kind of thing always gets me in that men think they are getting away with seeing other women. There are a million tells with both sexes. If the "cheating" is silent, it usually will be tolerated.

With the age thing, everyone has personality types and traits. My top two traits are sensing, how the world is, and thinking, using facts to make decisions. My current girl's top two traits are opposite of mine, feeling and intuition, how the world can be.

I used to put down feelers as irrational and intuitive as unrealistic and with age, it is even easier to put down the traits you prefer not to use. But I know now no matter how smart I am, I will never be as good with feelings or intuition as her. I have no problem now asking someone who is 28 and better at those things for advice, so the age does not matter as much to me now. I no longer expect to be smarter on all things.

As far as people and the age difference, people can easily see if a girl on a guy's arm is in love versus one getting paid.

When I was with my woman, she shed real tears at the end of one of our first trip, and I was like, "Holy shit, this woman is in love with me. " I gave up my fun relationships for a more meaningful one because I knew how rare this was. I will never forget what one female friend said about the fun girls, "Those WG are not going anywhere."

But before I did, I had sex with someone great in bed before I committed and honestly, the sex was no better than I had with my gal. I went to strip clubs twice and made two stunners cum. Both wanted to see me outside the club but one was bipolar and the other was pretty much a sugar baby type pro, and I realized even if the sex is great, inevitably things are going to fade or not going to end well. Been there, done that. The thrill of the hunt for me was gone.

When you are on the hunt, you are always looking for that great next kill. Thing is you forget the no shows, the women who are horrible in bed, the greedy pigs, the fools, the games ETC. Unlike with a new girl, I know with mine, she is going to be there, and the sex will be great. And even though I never minded the spending at the time, I would look after the fact at how much the bills were when pursuing women and would ask myself, "If you had to spend it again, wouldn't you rather have a 100 inch TV (or whatever) versus the money you just spent on these women?" That was not always the case but it was way too often. The amount of money and time we spend pursuing and catching these women is massive.

So Fast, you have to ask yourself are you tired of the bullshit and cost of the chase? Or can you convince yourself you are?

The bonus is as good as your woman has been in bed with you, it will get better when you commit. You think she has nothing more to give but when she truly is your woman, she will really give you all she has. I do not think you can have the best sex with a woman unless there is commitment. They will always hold a little back IMO.

As of now, she knows you and you can be straight with her. If you are afraid that you will stray, tell her that. Tell her you just got out of a painful divorce and not yet ready to settle in. She will tolerate your playing for a while.

I was scared of straying so I asked if she were open for threesomes. She said no, but I do not think it hurts to ask. I would have committed sooner had she said yes.

We have talked marriage but before I even brought up the hard prenup questions, she said, "I will sign whatever you want. " I suspect your gal would do the same. A working woman gets wanting to keep the fruits of labor. A non working woman may not.

If you really have found a great woman, it is probably best to put the energy of the hunt into something else. I was engaged to a different woman who still has the best body of any woman I have been with, and it took me two years of looking really hard to truly find someone in her class. The extreme beauties are not easy to find and even harder to land, and you have to sift through all the ones who are narcissists, bipolar, or just crazy selfish. But to find one who can pay her own way? That is even rarer.

There was a massive 2002 (meta analysis that showed condoms pretty much do not work to prevent STDs. The government tried to bury it, and I have been latex free since reading that study and have not had any issues. Like you, I had an antibiotic / antiviral cocktail I take if I am concerned with STDs and unlike condoms, they really work. Latex is a huge allergen, and I think the notion of calling condom use "safe sex" is foolish. Show her the study and say you will get tested every 3 or 4 months, and I bet she will consider staying condom free.

Every woman has red flags. With my ex, I saw them and naively thought when we were married, they would get better. Of course, they did not. This time, I had a trusted female friend vet my gal and she told me her flaws and I did listen. After that, she said, "But I think she is too good for you. " Hopefully, you will have the same.

[DramaFree11]

I have. Saw a 19 yo tiny little spinner. So cute. And prior time a 21 yo hottie.

I tend to be generous because my biggest fear is cancellations. Like going down there and having nothing to do.

I usually offer 6000 to 7000 pesos, about 300-350 dollars, for dinner and time after, usually 5 hours. This has never been negotiated higher so I assume it's considered very good.

If you don't have global entry don't bother tho. The line to get back to the states can easily be 2-3 hours.

What area in Mexico is this? I usually offer 4000-5000 pesos in CDMX, for 3-4 hours and 2 pops. This works like a charm. I will go to 6000 if they are super hot, 9 or 10. I pay a little less in MTY.

[AsianPursuits]

So she also says "I know you get a lot of messages on SA", I said how does she know, she said there is a forum for woman and they enter a profile, almost like a yelp she said, it's more to weed out stalkers / rapists / fat old fucks / fake pics. I said show me and she said "let's not change the conversation". That was news to me.

Thanks for the good insight into this lady. Did you (or anyone) every get details of this site?

[AmericanPi]

Has anybody used SA in Tijuana? Any ideas on what would be the most you should pay for a top shelf chica? Like a easy 9 or 10.

I have. Saw a 19 yo tiny little spinner. So cute. And prior time a 21 yo hottie.

I tend to be generous because my biggest fear is cancellations. Like going down there and having nothing to do.

I usually offer 6000 to 7000 pesos, about 300-350 dollars, for dinner and time after, usually 5 hours. This has never been negotiated higher so I assume it's considered very good.

If you don't have global entry don't bother tho. The line to get back to the states can easily be 2-3 hours.

[Steve 9696]

But recall that the price was not "my" bid. She threw out $250 per meet. And who was I to disagree? LOL! No, my original budget was going to be $500 per meet. Double what she settled for! Of course, I never told her that. If and when I go forward, I will max at $500 per meet again. And we shall see. Had one hottie talking about $1,000 per meet. Not going to happen!

I'the forgotten that part of the story. What a grand slam home run touchdown game finisher.

But you are all set then. You can def find a top shelf hottie for $500. Just got to weed out all the posers and girls who ask 800-1000. Agree. Wtf? But wade thru all that and you will have urself SA hottie #2!