Seeking Arrangements

[FilthyBeaver]

Agree. If you like them enough to see them several times, why wouldn't you treat them like a GF? Even if it's an illusion, the more real it feels the better the experience. I'm all for shows, travel, dinners, etc. But I don't do it with girls who can't hold a conversation or I'm only interested in banging. I like doing those things and having company I enjoy is totally worth it. I'm not much of a gift giver mostly because I hate thinking about what to give them but I own a business that provides services that almost everyone on the planet needs so I also help them out there.

Women love little shit like remembering their birthdays. I couldn't care less about mine, haven't celebrated it since I turned 21.

Some guys might think I'm crazy but I try to treat any SB I get more than one (sex) date with like a long term girlfriend. I always find out her birthday early on and store it with all my other girls. Any girl that I *might* see again or we had a deep connection I send her a CashApp on her birthday. Usually just like $100. I suppose I sent 5-10 birthday presents this past year. I don't honestly do this to get something back. It just feels right with someone you care about.

Am I crazy? Maybe. But I like these girls. And they are always so thrilled mostly because I remembered their birthday. It makes me happy somehow. LOL.

[FilthyBeaver]

I lurk with a profile that isn't paid with no pics. It's not findable or searchable. Once I have a stable of 15 that I'm interested in I'll pay & load pics. It takes me 3-4 mo to get to that number. In the meantime I'm watching for changing locations, pics, and text in the profile.

As for actual communication when I'm paid, I respond almost immediately whenever I can. I'll get a message and if I miss her there's a high likelihood I'll never hear from her again. At least that's my experience.

You are absolutely correct on waste fraud & abuse. It's a cesspool, but I've come to accept the fact that it's the only way I'm going to get introduced to girls I'm actually interested in (and has paid off in spades). I made the mistake of looking for people my own age (I'm still in my 40's) and I swear there were more pics of my grandma than anything else. I loved both my grandmothers but I didn't want to fuck either of them.

I don't follow your response. In the first part of it you say that you watch profiles for several weeks and look to see if there is a change of location. If so, then you will block the profile. That's in line with what I said, more or less, not the reverse. What's the reverse is what you say in the second part, which is that one should strike immediately while the iron is hot. Which makes it sound like you don't advise ever waiting to see if one can notice any funny business with a profile. So which one is it? I just found that there's so much fraud, waste, and abuse on SA that it's worth it to wait a few days (not several weeks) to see if you can catch the person behind the profile moving around all over the place within a short period of time.

[Steve 9696]

Thanks for the report. Great fun to read. You however are playing a completely different game than the rest of us. Single, loaded, and attractive. You are using SA as a dating site not a Sugar site. The rest of us are handing out sugar because that's part of the game. If you are not handing out sugar but pulling the hotties anyhow then it's a different game. It's called dating!

Kudos for that. We all wish we could pull hotties for nothing but it's not reality for most of us (married, older, less attractive). But it comes with side effects. If you are fucking several girls — esp bareback — they want and rightfully expect more. They will want more BFGF status and future else why they doing it? And you become a heartbreaker.

Beautiful girls have heart crusher power and some wield it like a weapon. You have been gifted a certain amount of heart breaker power. Wield it wisely Luke, my son! 😜.

[Ilst28]

Holy cow, this is news to me too. Any idea or more info on where this forum would be?

I've been on and off SA for about 3 years now and found some connections. After you look at so many profiles certain keywords and phrases start to stand out. Sometimes whole paragraphs. I always suspected there is some 'coaching' style site out there that these girls are all copying this language from. Some examples:

"I don't care about his age but he's generous enough."

"Someone with the means and integrity to provide for my lifestyle".

"If you can stimulate my mind with conversation."

You get the idea. Not a typical tone or wording that you'd expect to see from so many girls.

I do agree it's getting harder and harder to weed through the nonsense on SA to find those gems and you really have to put in a lot of time to do it.

[The Cane]

So you going to have to raise your bid! But I am very confident you will find your girl if you do so.

But recall that the price was not "my" bid. She threw out $250 per meet. And who was I to disagree? LOL! No, my original budget was going to be $500 per meet. Double what she settled for! Of course, I never told her that. If and when I go forward, I will max at $500 per meet again. And we shall see. Had one hottie talking about $1,000 per meet. Not going to happen!

[Steve 9696]

Your group 4 works well with my baseball home run analogy. You see in baseball there are three bases plus home plate. You want to round the three bases and get to the fourth and final stop of home plate to score a run. And when you finally do score a run on SA, there's so much bullshit you had to wade through rounding those three bases to get to home that it's like you just hit a grand slam home run to win the "game"! It's the bottom on the ninth and we're three runs down, bases loaded, with a full count of three balls and two strikes. Here's the pitch and a swing! Pow! That. Ball. Is. Out of here! Gone! The Cane wins the pennant! The Cane wins the Pennant! The Cane wins the pennant! LOLOLOL! I'm pondering a return. Yes I am. As I told Steve, sometimes I wish I hadn't scored my early success. That way, I could just say that the whole site sucks and write it off for good. I still conclude that it mostly does LOL! But, because I had that initial grand slam, I always think about trying to do it again. And now that the sexual relationship with Abby ended after six months of bareback CIP glory, and now that I have decompressed from that experience and learned more strategies and tactics to use to achieve success, I'm thinking about a return. Yes siree Bob I am!

Love the play by play. Yep that's how it feels! There is absolutely an awesome girl out on SA for you, but the likelihood of finding her for two bills like your last girl is zero imo. You should have high expectations to find another awesome girl. After Thifany, I found Alexa, Kayla, Mika, and Shayla (plus numerous other "very good" girls). But in my experience there aren't gems out there under $400. That's kinda the low bar these days! Even in tier two cities!

So you going to have to raise your bid! But I am very confident you will find your girl if you do so.

[Ggekko2009]

So she also says "I know you get a lot of messages on SA", I said how does she know, she said there is a forum for woman and they enter a profile, almost like a yelp she said, it's more to weed out stalkers / rapists / fat old fucks / fake pics. I said show me and she said "let's not change the conversation". That was news to me.

Holy cow, this is news to me too. Any idea or more info on where this forum would be?

[The Cane]

She was group 4 of my categories and a complete win till "exclusive".

Your group 4 works well with my baseball home run analogy. You see in baseball there are three bases plus home plate. You want to round the three bases and get to the fourth and final stop of home plate to score a run. And when you finally do score a run on SA, there's so much bullshit you had to wade through rounding those three bases to get to home that it's like you just hit a grand slam home run to win the "game"! It's the bottom on the ninth and we're three runs down, bases loaded, with a full count of three balls and two strikes. Here's the pitch and a swing! Pow! That. Ball. Is. Out of here! Gone! The Cane wins the pennant! The Cane wins the Pennant! The Cane wins the pennant! LOLOLOL! I'm pondering a return. Yes I am. As I told Steve, sometimes I wish I hadn't scored my early success. That way, I could just say that the whole site sucks and write it off for good. I still conclude that it mostly does LOL! But, because I had that initial grand slam, I always think about trying to do it again. And now that the sexual relationship with Abby ended after six months of bareback CIP glory, and now that I have decompressed from that experience and learned more strategies and tactics to use to achieve success, I'm thinking about a return. Yes siree Bob I am!

[FastMdSter]

So have been busy last few weeks since my last post, mainly due to my travel schedule and having a full SB lineup.

Currently, I'm in a very interesting place (not geographically) but personally. I have been juggling a few incredible SBs in different parts of the world and they all started to fall into a force rank almost of how I feel about them. I also started to lose interest because one has just been above and beyond. The problem was 3 caught feelings hard and I was not doing right by them (canceling trips, in their city but not seeing them, ignoring calls etc). I ended it with 2 of those, 1 ended it for me, but she became an emotional mess calling constantly, texting etc, there was never any money exchanged with her or the other 2 above, just dinners, nights out etc.

Which brings me to my current state of affairs (LOL). You may recall that I met a woman on SA in Vancouver who was a real estate agent. She was on the site for 4 days before closing her account. The woman is a 9. 9. Intelligent, beautiful, funny, 5'8", blonde, blue eyes, real breasts, no lip fillers, financially stable and fit as fuck. Now, you are asking why the fuck was she on there, as did I. After hours of speaking, and after meeting in person 3 x, and then we will be in Napa this week for a tour of some wineries I have an answer. I also expect her situation is no different.

She just turned 28, I know too old for some of you. But, I'm 48.

At 23 she started working for a building developer in Vancouver, the owner and her started a relationship. He was married, had introduced her to his family blah blah. She got the story he would leave, he had no intention. Treated her like a personal slave, plus he controlled her income, a very very unhealthy relationship. No trips, no gifts, no treatment like a girlfriend etc, sex slave basically. But she was young, thought she was in love, we all know the story. But, he also knew what he had, so would track all her movements, calls etc.

After 4 years she finally got the sense to break it off after being convinced by her friends / sister etc. She was not looking for a relationship after that, her motto was "single heartbreaker". So the usual tinder, nights out etc.

End of June she decides she wants to go on vacation, but not by herself. All her friends have boyfriends etc. Her best friend and sister tell her get a Sugar Daddy and be spoiled and have him take you on vacation. They set up a profile on SA use a fake pic with no face of a brunette, not very provocative, but looks very attractive. As all the profiles she starts getting a ton of responses, most are deranged as we know and she decides to close out after 4 days.

I had reached out and sent her my pics, my usual rap, and number. We text a few times on SA and then I see her profile is gone.

About 2 days later she texts me. We have an exchange, goes cold, I send a "hey back in town if your free etc". We speak on the phone, face time blah blah. When we finally met the first time we hit it off amazingly. 100% sexual match and personality.

No money exchange.

In between I'm still fucking my other SBs, but can't get her off my mind. We text almost everyday between that time.

About 3 weeks ago, I'm in Seattle and she's like come see me. I do, because I have 2 other woman there also. Again, it's the same 100%. No money exchange.

This past week I make trip out there and we meet again, only problem is I got greedy and set up for my other 2 woman also. I completely ghosted them, and they would call, text incessantly when I was there. The meeting this time went to another level sexually, and if you remember I'm a PSE guy.

I stayed at the Paradox this time in their big suite which made it even cooler, plus they have lounge with a DJ and a nightclub, so the evenings after dinner and before the sex were also a lot of fun.

Last night we went to eat at Black and Blue, I come out of the bathroom and ask for the check and she had paid. The bill was $620 for 2 people, I was dumbfounded. She has also paid for all our Ubers / Lyfts, door dash one night etc.

But, the rub was about to come.

That night we both agreed she wouldn't sleep over because, I had an 830 flight back to NYC and she had a 9 am showing.

After we are done ravaging each other with her hand massaging my balls, she says to me "how about we be exclusive".

I start sweating, lose 2 shades of my complexion. She says "look, I see the amount of ass you slay, we go unprotected, I don't want to know what you are doing with the others, but we stay like this, it's exclusive". "You going to fuck use a condom and tell me, it won't end it, but I'm catching feelings and then maybe I pull back".

So she also says "I know you get a lot of messages on SA", I said how does she know, she said there is a forum for woman and they enter a profile, almost like a yelp she said, it's more to weed out stalkers / rapists / fat old fucks / fake pics. I said show me and she said "let's not change the conversation". That was news to me.

She was group 4 of my categories and a complete win till "exclusive". I will roll with it next week and see how it goes. The problem is I'm an eternal player, always have been, when I settle down, I stray. I enjoy the hunt as much as the kill.

Until then, be safe and keep slaying.

[DramaFree11]

In my experience, most girls that I met on SA in Colombia are in it for the money. They are not pros in that sense, but they do need financial help.

I don't mind giving them the money and helping them as long they know that this is just a transaction that are mutually beneficial and not to be expecting anything beyond that.

I have to agree, 90% of the Colombian I have met are all about the money. The is why I like the girls from Mxico so much better, they so humble and fun.

[DramaFree11]

Some guys might think I'm crazy but I try to treat any SB I get more than one (sex) date with like a long term girlfriend. I always find out her birthday early on and store it with all my other girls. Any girl that I *might* see again or we had a deep connection I send her a CashApp on her birthday. Usually just like $100. I suppose I sent 5-10 birthday presents this past year. I don't honestly do this to get something back. It just feels right with someone you care about.

Am I crazy? Maybe. But I like these girls. And they are always so thrilled mostly because I remembered their birthday. It makes me happy somehow. LOL.

I do the exact same, but since I am single, so if I meet a girl I am attracted too, I am not opposed to a relationship with them. There is a couple of girls in the CDMX, that I am both physically and mentally attracted too, I would love to have a serious relationship with either. SA rocks, I am having the best tine of my life. I am killing professionally and socially.

[Steve 9696]

Some guys might think I'm crazy but I try to treat any SB I get more than one (sex) date with like a long term girlfriend. I always find out her birthday early on and store it with all my other girls. Any girl that I *might* see again or we had a deep connection I send her a CashApp on her birthday. Usually just like $100. I suppose I sent 5-10 birthday presents this past year. I don't honestly do this to get something back. It just feels right with someone you care about.

Am I crazy? Maybe. But I like these girls. And they are always so thrilled mostly because I remembered their birthday. It makes me happy somehow. LOL.

[The Cane]

I lurk and watch profiles I like for several weeks before I contact them. The number one thing I look for is change of location, if it changes I block the profile so I never see it again. I'm pretty picky so I may only have 15 or 20 profiles at anytime I'm watch.

I don't like the idea of waiting to reply, you need to strike while the iron is hot because some girls only log in once every several weeks. Ideally you catch them as soon as they message you to sink the hook.

I don't follow your response. In the first part of it you say that you watch profiles for several weeks and look to see if there is a change of location. If so, then you will block the profile. That's in line with what I said, more or less, not the reverse. What's the reverse is what you say in the second part, which is that one should strike immediately while the iron is hot. Which makes it sound like you don't advise ever waiting to see if one can notice any funny business with a profile. So which one is it? I just found that there's so much fraud, waste, and abuse on SA that it's worth it to wait a few days (not several weeks) to see if you can catch the person behind the profile moving around all over the place within a short period of time.

[Ggekko2009]

In Colombia, and it probably is not like this now, money was a secondary concern in so many cases with me that I did not even bring it up, and the best dates were ones where money was not expected. One GF type was so happy after meeting me she told all her friends to use the site, and I did not give her any money when we met.

My current gal was usually in her home, at work, daughter's school, the gym, church, or hanging out with friends at bars prior to my meeting her. Is she a different woman if I met her at one of those places and not seeking?

In my experience, most girls that I met on SA in Colombia are in it for the money. They are not pros in that sense, but they do need financial help.

I don't mind giving them the money and helping them as long they know that this is just a transaction that are mutually beneficial and not to be expecting anything beyond that.

[NapataJohn]

I don't like the idea of waiting to reply, you need to strike while the iron is hot because some girls only log in once every several weeks. Ideally you catch them as soon as they message you to sink the hook.

I see if they are very new and talk and I also talk to someone who has been there for a while as that means they have not had much luck and are interested in a SD.