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  1. #5495

    Amazing Date w Mia and Friend

    This is not strictly Seeking but very Seeking-like so I thought you might enjoy it. If U want the background on finding a true TEN, that's over in the Sao Paulo thread posted as a Casarao experience.

    Before diving in, just want to say if u are serious about best girl experience in the world you simply must get to Sao Paulo. Just nothing else compares. Enjoy!

    P.S. Flying in a fave from Rio tomorrow and almost disappointed I did that! That's how good it is. LOL.

    Recall that Mia, the unicorn 10, and I had put off our Sat date till Sunday when it is slow. We WhatsApp and set a time and are planning on Japanese. I think I will take a little nap around 3:30 but as I settle in I see her text "I'm sorry but I don't think we can go tonight". Dagger thru my fucking heart. And Mark is super bummed because he was really looking forward to her friend Manu, having gotten previously cock blocked by his Fatal Attraction girl at Casarao.

    I'm not quite ready to punt so I tell Mia I am very sad and maybe we could just not go all night. Or go earlier or later. Just groping at straws here when she says OK as long as we are done before 8:30 she can come on over!

    I think "woohoo" but feel a bit sorry for Mark as Mia says Manu cannot come. But shortly she texts and asks do I want her to bring another friend for Mark. I doubt this will work out as Mark has narrow taste but when she texts a pic that could pass for her sister it's on! (an 8. 5 to Mia's 10).

    They are just going to come to the hotel and come to our rooms. But in a flash of brilliance I say let's have a fiesta in my room so Mark and his girl can get comfortable. So I order a bottle of champagne to be sent up.

    The girls arrive about 1/2 hour later looking lovely. Mia has worn a conservative sun dress but she still looks awesome. Fernanda is wearing a tight two piece like you might see in the club and Mark is slain. Even better than her pics.

    No issues from the front desk at the hotel, we just meet our girls and head up to my room. It has a little seating area with a couch so we order some finger foods and pair it with the champagne. It's quite a fun little party and very comfortable so we order another bottle (a very reasonable 90 R) and continue chatting and listening to music. What a great idea the party was. We end up spending 1. 5 hours before departing to our private fuck fests.

    Mia and I are so much more comfortable night two. Don't get me wrong; night one was amazing but this far exceeded that. And I can partially thank Mark for that because he is the DATY master and had coached me up a bit.

    You see, on night one during the debrief he had told me about the DATY challenge he undertook with Gabi. She had said she never cums from DATY and he said "challenge accepted!" he worked her for a full half hour and she had a crashing O and that gratefulness that comes with it. Patient man that he is, he won the challenge and was amply rewarded. Kudos!

    So over picanha the night after Gabi, I had asked him his three best DATY tips and those came in handy with Mia. I class myself as pretty good at it, but adding in one trick and a lot of patience I took Mia to that crashing O and it was legendary. She too seemed surprised and amazed and that look afterwards is priceless. I've only seen it before twice with other girls. When you give them the O they didn't think they could get without a vibrator, the look they give you (Something between serenity, bliss, and gratefulness.) is absolutely priceless. And so is the next hour that follows!

    As Mia positions to give me the reward BJ I continue to be struck by her amazing body. You know how pretty much every girl has a little stomach pooch when sitting down. Even the pretty slim ones. She has ZERO stomach pooch and gorgeous high Cee cup tits and I just marvel. It doesn't seem possible. Yet here she is in my bed. With my dick in her mouth. WTF?

    For the BJ I am much more comfortable giving her direction, as she is not a pro in this department, despite or maybe because of her beauty. So as she licks balls I show her how to use the flat of her tongue not the tip. And how to suck them. She is careful not too suck too hard and looks to me with her doe eyes for approval, which I graciously give. Sim! Gostoso!

    I also show her how to harmonica and that is fucking amazing. She has thick beautiful lips and the feeling is electric. The visuals of her sucking my dick as absolutely legendary.

    We have some rather amazing sex in all the positions and the mirror on the closet provides some great visuals. She loves to look at herself being fucked in doggie and just seeing that alone is completely arousing. Plus her perfect butt in doggie is to die for. I grab that Brasileira bunda and fuck like my life depends on it!

    As my ninth fuck of the week (7 girls) I am a tough finish. We try tittie fucking with lube which clearly she hasn't done before but she catches on quickly and pushes her tits together. It feels amazing skin to skin and I build some.

    For the final finish we go to her sucking balls and me jacking. And that feels great and goes on forever. She's taking a little break from sucking and is just slip sliding my highly sloppy balls with her hand, amazing face nearby, giving me the bedroom eyes.

    She's actually enjoying watching my dick get harder and harder; and when I shoot out a nice load, she laughs and smiles and enjoys watching me shoot. Ah what a girl! Minha namorada (until Manuella arrives from Rio on Wednesday. Kkkkkk).

    Mark and his hottie return, nice time had by all and we kiss them goodbye at their Uber. SP totally rules. Best girls worldwide by a mile!

  2. #5494
    Quote Originally Posted by Gfefan  [View Original Post]
    Anyone has experience in Boston?

    City of universities. I am expecting a good collection there but any ground intel will be helpful.
    Friend is there. He is having great time. Young college students 18 to 24 years. 500 to max 700 usd they are happy to stay overnight and full one GFE experience and also lot of different races to choose from. Repeat cost is less with 30 to 50 percent discount. They just need nice restaurant dinner, drinks and nice hotels not the motel types.

  3. #5493

    OT: Sao Paulo

    Not Seeking stuff so not posting here. But São Paulo club scene is best girls worldwide imo. I've dropped three mega reports with more to come. If you have an interest head on over to the São Paulo thread. Going to drop another report on the second date with Mia, the 10 unicorn I found, in the next day or two.

  4. #5492
    Quote Originally Posted by Lusine99  [View Original Post]
    It seems, in london, its almost given that ppm means a platonic dinner date just for the pleasure of their company or "getting to feel comfortable" one step away from online. Ranges from 250 pounds to one girl wanted 700 for a coffee!! I think Charlie Sheen will be hapky with that compensation for an hour of his time and 18 espressos.

    3 years back 300 was a straight ppm. I'm not sure who would do this, pay someone to buy them dinner. The ladies seem to be upping the stakes. Maybe some men are enabling such behaviours. Maybe some have the money, and just LT need someone to talk to. I wonder if this is confined to London where their is a plethora of traffic and hard to even get a response, or something people have experienced globally?

    Even the less appealing girls are demanding rather high monthly allowances.

    I had a stint in Barcelona 17 months ago that was for more straight forward.
    London is trash. Take the train / bus to North UK. Liverpool, Manchester, Sheffield, Leeds, York, Newcastle. The area is still abundant with all type of girls ready and willing to ride your chorizo for 150 GBP + dinner. Don't waste your time in London.

  5. #5491

    This is way more complicated

    We've all had these requests for time compensation. These are either pros or very inexperienced noobs. I blow these girls off as soon as I figure that out. If I establish a back and forth connection to the point I really want to meet this girl and I'm reasonably sure she's interested in more than just meeting a nice guy; either I'll ask what she wants or she'll ask for a number outright or ask me to propose something. Every time, I say something like x after dinner plus why if we go back to my place where both numbers usually add up to what I give my regular. There are no surprises when it's set up like this. The reason I even offer something just for dinner is to give MYSELF an out. If we have zero chemistry or just a shitty time or I'm not feeling it, that's not necessarily her fault and I'm happy going separate ways with a clean conscience. I need to stress that my decision to meet someone is never based on a 5 min text conversation. I generally don't meet them until I've built some kind of basic interest outside of their looks and that can take days and lead to expectations on my part that don't pan out, again, not her fault.

    If you're worried about the price of the meal, meet them at Starbucks. The serious ones want to get the arrangement out of the way quickly. You can bring them to an expensive place on the second date.

    Quote Originally Posted by HumbleHal  [View Original Post]
    My time is worth much more than theirs I tell them, so I tell them we can meet and if we feel good about each other we can talk about starting an arrangement immediately, but no guarantees except I will pay for the meal. Otherwise they order crab, expensive seafood and walk away expecting to be paid also and you are a chump.

  6. #5490

    Don't' do that!

    Quote Originally Posted by Lusine99  [View Original Post]
    It seems, in london, its almost given that ppm means a platonic dinner date just for the pleasure of their company or "getting to feel comfortable" one step away from online. Ranges from 250 pounds to one girl wanted 700 for a coffee!! I think Charlie Sheen will be hapky with that compensation for an hour of his time and 18 espressos.

    3 years back 300 was a straight ppm. I'm not sure who would do this, pay someone to buy them dinner. The ladies seem to be upping the stakes. Maybe some men are enabling such behaviours. Maybe some have the money, and just LT need someone to talk to. I wonder if this is confined to London where their is a plethora of traffic and hard to even get a response, or something people have experienced globally?

    Even the less appealing girls are demanding rather high monthly allowances.

    I had a stint in Barcelona 17 months ago that was for more straight forward.
    Dudes that are doing this. Just stop. If you are feel bad, don't. And definitely don't let some young girl in her confidence or sob story manipulate you into paying her for her company. This is absurd.

    On a larger scale over time, our (SDs) behaviors all affect each other. We bang the same girls, and exchange cash and outings, etc. Hell, we have probably seen each other at the same steakhouses with our SBs without knowing hahahaha. I assume the majority of us are against a 300 pound / euro / dollar PPM for a f*#ki#g coffee or a croissant and the immense pleasure of their company. I come back to reality with the fact that most of us are professionals and probably can be considered high earners. Essentially, our time is worth more than theirs, so whenever I hear an SB say that she needs to be compensated for her time, I remind her that she is the one who is benefiting; she is the one looking for someone to raise her level or help her. When she puts her vag on the same level with the jewels of our experience, practice, financial ability and knowledge, she errs in her narcissism. Platonic dates can be fun, BUT it must be made clear that no cash jumps into your pocket until a deed has been done. Thems the rules. Haha.

    02.

  7. #5489

    What are your favorite places??

    I have used SA primarily across the US and Europe. The PPM and SB expectations vary from culture to culture and city to city. Some cities have a higher percentage of working girls posing as SBs, some have SBs that are more strict about the requirements, some girls want $500 ppm even though their looks, age and location don't warrant it (they make it seem like we are desperate. LOL. We are the ones with all the choices. We set the price. Just saying) and some cities have better quality across the board.

    What are your top two places to use SA. Just from an SB perspective, not the city's amenities?

    I've been vocal about my opinions regarding US SBs, so no US city was in consideration for even the top 10 spots. It's so bad that I even avoid / disregard American girls when I come across them when abroad. NO GO for me.

    Back to topic. I have 4 top cities that come to mind, but I'll stick to two, which is a bit difficult to narrow down. For me, it would be Madrid and London, with Lisbon and Prague as a close 3rd /4th. In my experience, my SB experiences have been with cool, down to earth girls, that never watched the clock (and didn't mention this $$ for a few hours crap), and more than likely stayed the night. They were able to get in the GF mode and really made the night (s) awesome, usually on more than one occasion and at times refused cash.

    What say you?

    02.

  8. #5488

    Update

    So after disappearing for about 14 months, I get a text message from my one and only sugar baby, and it's kind of like a "what's up"? I respond by sending her a picture of her at her wedding and ask, "So how's the married life"? LOLOLOL LMAO! That's all I said. It takes her about 2 hours to respond, probably trying to figure out what she should say. She finally says she was just checking in. I did not respond any further, and have no plans to. But I took great satisfaction out of letting her know that I know. And I know about a lot more than that too, but I kept that all to myself. What was that American Pi said? The duplicitous nature of people!

  9. #5487
    Quote Originally Posted by Lusine99  [View Original Post]
    It seems, in london, its almost given that ppm means a platonic dinner date just for the pleasure of their company or "getting to feel comfortable" one step away from online. Ranges from 250 pounds to one girl wanted 700 for a coffee!! I think Charlie Sheen will be hapky with that compensation for an hour of his time and 18 espressos.

    3 years back 300 was a straight ppm. I'm not sure who would do this, pay someone to buy them dinner. The ladies seem to be upping the stakes. Maybe some men are enabling such behaviours. Maybe some have the money, and just LT need someone to talk to. I wonder if this is confined to London where their is a plethora of traffic and hard to even get a response, or something people have experienced globally?

    Even the less appealing girls are demanding rather high monthly allowances.

    I had a stint in Barcelona 17 months ago that was for more straight forward.
    My time is worth much more than theirs I tell them, so I tell them we can meet and if we feel good about each other we can talk about starting an arrangement immediately, but no guarantees except I will pay for the meal. Otherwise they order crab, expensive seafood and walk away expecting to be paid also and you are a chump.

  10. #5486
    Quote Originally Posted by Lusine99  [View Original Post]
    It seems, in london, its almost given that ppm means a platonic dinner date just for the pleasure of their company or "getting to feel comfortable" one step away from online. Ranges from 250 pounds to one girl wanted 700 for a coffee!! I think Charlie Sheen will be hapky with that compensation for an hour of his time and 18 espressos.

    3 years back 300 was a straight ppm. I'm not sure who would do this, pay someone to buy them dinner. The ladies seem to be upping the stakes. Maybe some men are enabling such behaviours. Maybe some have the money, and just LT need someone to talk to. I wonder if this is confined to London where their is a plethora of traffic and hard to even get a response, or something people have experienced globally?

    Even the less appealing girls are demanding rather high monthly allowances.

    I had a stint in Barcelona 17 months ago that was for more straight forward.
    These girls are dreaming. I am sorry, I just do not believe it. I also hear these stories, but I politely laugh and move on.

  11. #5485

    Platonic paid dates

    It seems, in london, its almost given that ppm means a platonic dinner date just for the pleasure of their company or "getting to feel comfortable" one step away from online. Ranges from 250 pounds to one girl wanted 700 for a coffee!! I think Charlie Sheen will be hapky with that compensation for an hour of his time and 18 espressos.

    3 years back 300 was a straight ppm. I'm not sure who would do this, pay someone to buy them dinner. The ladies seem to be upping the stakes. Maybe some men are enabling such behaviours. Maybe some have the money, and just LT need someone to talk to. I wonder if this is confined to London where their is a plethora of traffic and hard to even get a response, or something people have experienced globally?

    Even the less appealing girls are demanding rather high monthly allowances.

    I had a stint in Barcelona 17 months ago that was for more straight forward.

  12. #5484

    Boston

    Anyone has experience in Boston?

    City of universities. I am expecting a good collection there but any ground intel will be helpful.

  13. #5483

    Epic

    These are Steve epic writeups.

    I'm never going to be able to do these. Hats off!

    Quote Originally Posted by Steve9696  [View Original Post]
    Thanks guys for the kind words. I love to write these up so I can relive them. And last night was one for the books. Totally smitten. Repeating tonight. And may try to fly her in the future. Just an amazing girl. Thank you Seeking!

    Met Maru on Seeking about 8 weeks ago. I was very struck by her pics and we had a bit of a slow start chatting but kept up some moderate contact. A couple weeks back we set the deal and the date.

    As is my modus operandi when in a city a few days, I put my number one pick on day one, second girl on day 2, and repeat with favorite on day three. Marina was my fave due to her girlfriendy attitude and Maru got day two despite better optics. No regrets really but Maru is a stone cold hottie and sweet girl and a sex demon. So no contest for day three. Here's how our date went down.

    We met up at a rooftop bar with an amazing view of the city. We had to meetup late because she had class. She's a junior psychology major. She showed up maybe ten minutes late and I got a start on a large gin and tonic.

    She texts me when she arrives and I hop down the four flights to meet her. Wow. She a petite hottie in her tight bell bottoms and platform Chuck Taylors. Soooo cute. As you can imagine my imagination goes wild following her tight bootie up the stairs. Hoping for an epic night.

    We settle back in at our table and she seems super stoked. All bubbly smiles. We had chatted earlier that she's never drank much and wants to be introduced. So when she sits down she asks what I am drinking and she takes a sip of my G&T. She rather likes it and we quickly have one ordered for her.

    The chemistry is awesome from moment one. Her English is really good and we chat about a variety of topics. The food is great. The view is great. And the chemistry is great. A date trifecta!

    After a lovely dinner and draining our gin and tonics we start the walk to my hotel 5-10 minutes away. There is never really any question if we were going to the hotel together. It's clear we are going to have a great time the chemistry is just soooo much easier than say last night for example. It just flows and flows.

    Back in the room it's a completely different experience from the night before. Part of this is that she's more comfortable. And part is that I am so smittten I am just drawn to getting intimate with her ASAP.

    I decide we should put on some music and as I do with most girls I say let's do your music. As she is standing and browsing for music, I sit on the bed and put my hands on her waist and pull her close. I am in flow state at this point and my hands are roaming around her waist and butt and tits and I am getting hard for sure.

    Once she's got the music on, we start kissing and it's lovely and deep and passionate. This girl is a firecracker. I pull her on top of me and she laughs I think she is prob used to Latin guys dominating her but I love a girl on top kissing me like she wants me inside her. And she gets right back to business tongue fucking each other.

    At some point she comes up for air and gets her top off. Perfect firm handful be cup tits. Absolutely perfect. And I get hands on for a bit before rolling her on her back and going to town with a full scale assault.

    I luv me a set of C or D cups from time to time but I love that girls with smaller tits are so much more sensitive. As I suck them deeply and work circles, she will inhale and throw her head back and close her eyes. You can tell she is getting super worked up and ready for me downstairs.

    After really spending some time here I get up to get my pants off. I kinda like a slow build of passion so I leave my undies on and she strips to her panties. We grind my hard cock against her pussy and make out like teenagers.

    Soon it's time to rock her world so I work my way down and take off her panties. Such a beautiful petite pussy to match her petite frame. I lick quite a bit above and around it to get her worked up but eventually dive in. She is super tight, so only one finger inside to work her Gspot while I slather the fuck out of her clit with my tongue and lips.

    She is moaning appreciatively and wet as fuck, throwing her head back from time to time when I build her really good. I must be down there a good 15+ minutes because I'm getting tired. There is never a clear earth shattering ending but she twice arches her back in a spasm where I can't even reach her clit for a bit and she is having a climax of some sort.

    Eventually I tire and think let's get some dick in this game. So I move up near her face and take off my undies. She gladly takes me in her mouth in the Steve2 position with me fingering her clit. From time to time I slip a finger inside and she lets out a gasp and moan and has to take me out of her mouth. Love that I can make her lose control like that! And the BJ is heavenly. I have her alternate sucking shaft and balls. Nothing like getting a BJ while fingering. Steve2 baby!

    After a really long time doing this because damn it's good we head for some fucking. She chooses the condom option and I oblige. She's def tight getting me inside, but once I ease in it's slippery slide time and we start some nice slow mish while kissing.

    We fuck a good long time this way but eventually switch to the Steve which she likes. And then I get her on top in cowgirl. TBH she's a grinder which doesn't do much for me but she is having a whale of a time and I must let her grind for ten minutes or more. I am very impressed by her stamina!

    Eventually she does tire and flop down beside me. She's staring at me with her amazing eyes there is just that connection feeling you rarely get.

    I let her rest a few beats but then ask her to BJ to finish. She cheerfully complies and gives an amazing BJ for a very long time. I am feeling bad because I can't cum but I am near the edge for forever so it feels great. Even after laboring for a very long time I can't finish and she finally packs it in, flopping down again.

    I am very grateful she worked so hard but I want to cum. So I ask her to get on balls and me on hand job. She again smiles and gets right on it. I love a good ball suck handjob combo and stroke for a bit before shooting s nice load. Ah. Finally.

    Some kiss and cuddle and we agree to meet tonight. (I'the decided 10 minutes into the bedroom that she's the repeat.) Call her an uber and slept the sleep of the dead. What a girl!

  14. #5482
    Quote Originally Posted by Foolish  [View Original Post]
    Not exactly what you're looking for, but on the apps, I usually Google Image Search photos that look "too good to be true". I noticed if the cropping / selection isn't the same, sometimes the photo doesn't come up as a match. If anything, try cropping the photo differently to see if it decreases the match rate. Not sure if the engines use the same algo..
    Whenever I google image search a girl, the results are always matches for the clothes she's wearing. Never the face. I feel like I'm probably doing it wrong.

  15. #5481
    Quote Originally Posted by AmericanPi  [View Original Post]
    I need to find a way to alter photos so that pineyes and the like don't identify me.
    Not exactly what you're looking for, but on the apps, I usually Google Image Search photos that look "too good to be true". I noticed if the cropping / selection isn't the same, sometimes the photo doesn't come up as a match. If anything, try cropping the photo differently to see if it decreases the match rate. Not sure if the engines use the same algo.

    Steve, yes, keep posting details!

    F.

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