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04-21-22 14:32 #3202
Posts: 2732Yeah Both Ways
Originally Posted by AsianPursuits [View Original Post]
I would say the average "regular girl" seeking lifetime is 2-4 weeks. You have to be on top of it to catch the good ones.
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04-21-22 11:05 #3201
Posts: 6441Affirmative
Originally Posted by AsianPursuits [View Original Post]
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04-21-22 00:00 #3200
Posts: 462Originally Posted by Bdb013 [View Original Post]
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04-20-22 18:36 #3199
Posts: 596I appreciate the depth of your reports. And your transparency.
I have to say, I've had a totally different experience than you.
I normally use SA in somewhat poorer countries (Mexico, Greece, Bolivia, etc). And I'm pretty generous with my offers. Usually 300-350 dollars to join for dinner and action afterward. And I'm not too bad looking, though I'm middle aged.
But my experience is quite different. I hit up girls in the 18-25 range. Usually a canned paragraph- I'm coming to your city for work, looking for some cool company, etc. About 50 pct write back, and I suspect it's only that low because I don't have a profile picture up. Then I quickly try to get to offer time so nobody's wasting time. Of those I offer, about 25 pct bite. Those that don't either are expecting more, or want a long term deal, or want date 1 to be no sex, or whatever.
But still, the math on that is that 12.5 pct or so of the girls I reach out to will be a bed possibility for me.
The odds are quite good.
Originally Posted by Pessimist [View Original Post]
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04-20-22 18:35 #3198
Posts: 122Originally Posted by TheCane [View Original Post]
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04-20-22 13:27 #3197
Posts: 6441Finale
So, do I have a certain disdain for Seeking.com? Oh you better believe I do! But hate? LOLOLOL! That's just silly and too strong a word. "Hate" is an all-consuming thing that only brings you down with it. I have more useful things to spend my time thinking about and moving me on to action versus draining my batteries hating Seeking.com. I'm actually glad that I spent that three months on the site though. I met a great girl out of it. And now I know, and no need to ever wonder "what if". For those of you who love it great! For those of you who hate it don't. It's not that important believe me. And for those of us who have total disdain for it? Let's just be moving it on.
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04-20-22 13:03 #3196
Posts: 6441Thank you!
Originally Posted by Pessimist [View Original Post]
But, I must say that there's nothing "unfortunate" about it or something to "hate". Don't be so dramatic. It's not that important to me in my life LOL! It is what it is, and now I'm happily moving on after three solid months of working it with 100's and 100's and 100's of contacts. That's hardly "spiking the ball" after the first score, then walking away after the first "fumble". I don't have those traits in me as a person, and that's not how I live my life. If I did, I never would have achieved the successes in life that I have. It takes "sticktoitiveness" to have success obtaining many things in life worth having. But, it also takes knowing when it's time to cut bait and follow another direction in order to achieve your goals. I know when and how to do that. So, this piece of what you wrote (essentially being a quitter) is nothing more than a mean-spirited mischaracterization of what I did. You actually know nothing of the hours I gave to this. Then too, it's a relatively expensive "dating" site where I think it behooves one to to do a cost-benefit analysis as to whether or not to turn off the spigot sooner rather than later. Three months of Seeking.com getting my money was enough time in my estimation. As wealthy people know, what you keep is as important as what you earn.
This is something that, like you say, I did out of curiosity. But curiosity didn't kill the cat! In your pointers about a tragic lesson, you totally left out the full epilogue. The fact that I did meet one great girl on Seeking.com who I'm still seeing today. She meets all of my physical criteria, we get along great, the sex is at the pinnacle of monger success (BBCIP), and all at a cut rate price too! And I can honestly say that we have become real friends, and I expect that we will remain that way for some time. So yes, I'm saying goodbye to Seeking.com. She did too by the way! But, we haven't said goodbye to each other. And we're both so, so grateful that through it all we found each other. We both know how hard it is to find somebody "real" on Seeking. And this gets to the true core of the lesson to be learned here, without a need for all of the lengthy analysis. Yes, you can have success on Seeking.com, but from my perspective you have to put in way too much work over way too long of a period of time, and all on a service platform that is quite expensive for its particular industry. Making the return on investment not worth it. At least not to me. But don't cry for me mongerdom! This isn't the play "Death of a Monger". When the time is right, I will be returning to doing what I do. No stripclubs, no swinging, no Seeking. No, I'm talking flying all around the world easily fucking pretty girls in the ass. I know who I am. And that's the kind of ROI I "seek".
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04-20-22 04:23 #3195
Posts: 462Originally Posted by Mmusic [View Original Post]
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04-20-22 03:40 #3194
Posts: 18Best one yet
Had a amazing experience with an SB. Before my account expired I messaged some girls and got their numbers. I was up front, and most did not reply back except for one. We met up for dinner and drinks, then headed back to my place after. It was BBFSCIP. Had her lay belly down on the bed and fucked, damn her pussy was so tight. Pulled her legs close against me and went at it in doggy for a bit. I put her on top of me in cowgirl and had her ride me until she came. Then switched to missionary and half came inside her pussy then pulled out and finished the rest on her body. She told me she is on BC so crisis adverted.
This was one if not the best arrangement I had so far and will probably meet her again. Even though this was a great experience and no golden pussy syndrome. I'm not renewing my membership until I travel outside the country. In the US I got with 4 girls in the past 3 months and like others said it was a ton of work and hours spent. Two of them were great and I will meet with again.
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04-19-22 23:21 #3193
Posts: 1385Seeking
This is the unfortunate result when desperate Newbs backed up after 2 years of quarantine flood SA and of course "girls" take advantage of them.
For instance, this poster was initially quite reluctant and skeptical about SA, when Covid just hit.
"The sugar baby thing isn't for me! Reminds me of tutes asking me to tip them just because they spent some of their invaluable time to chatting with me. " this was on 5/12/20.
But in.
http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/...781&viewfull=1#post2642781.
"I've decided to look into SA starting in 2022. One thing I would like to know is this. Typically how many duds do you have to wade through before you find one girl that you vibe well enough with that you end up bedding her? I know this is something we all have to work at, but you seem to enjoy yourself, and you've been successful. So give me a rough number of how many encounters on average for you to find a gem who delivers the kind of experience you're looking for. Is it 10,15, or 20? More? Please keep it real."
OK, good, this was a realistic question.
Then the initial giddiness.
http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/...704&viewfull=1#post2647704.
"After being on SA for just a short while, I have a few observations to make. First of all, I don't know about anywhere else, but in my town, there are some damn fine ass black girls on that site! I'm talking smoking! And I'm not even into black girls that much. Brother Steve, if this is what you been fucking, then man I can see why you are one happy man. I got to take my hat off to you. Just damn! Second, there is a plenty of what I like the most too. And that would be young, blonde, white, and tight! I haven't had a full membership for even a whole week yet, and already I have my first meet and greet set up with a real cutie! Wow! We've already exchanged photos, been on the phone, and everything! And she knows I'm not looking for just "platonic."
I mean, am I in a dream? I thought I could have some success with this thing, but not like this so fast! I mean, she's almost too good to be true! And you know what they say about that. I'm trying not to look a gift horse in the mouth here!
And then the inevitable comedown.
http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/...475&viewfull=1#post2687475.
"As you will recall, I signed up for a three-month premium membership, which actually ended a few weeks ago. And to be perfectly honest, I couldn't wait! A big thumbs down to Seeking.com from me! And the reason? Well, at least in the United States, the site is just infested with fakes, flakes, fraudsters, and scammers. It's just overwhelming and totally ruins the experience. Seeking is out of the question for me going forward, along with the other two "S's". That would be stripclubs and swinging."
Honestly, this is a textbook example of initial skepticism, to curiosity, then euphoria, then disappointment, and finally hatred.
I feel like the people who have used it for a while have actually given sound advice.
Steve said in one of the earliest posts in January 2020:
http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/...270&viewfull=1#post2411270.
"I am a relative Newbie at it having just pulled my first girl in June. But I've pulled 15 girls since June and had some awesome experiences, many of which I can and will share here. IMO in the US it's the only way to fly tho I have had a good experience in London and Buenos Aires also.
The key point is it does in fact take a ton of time, which I don't mind. I typically start my search for the perfect girl about a month ahead of visiting a given city and am on SA every night. If you like chatting with girls and finding the gems in the pile of BS like I do (there is something viscerally satisfying about it) then it's not work but part of the fun."
I said the following in late January 2020:
http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/...654&viewfull=1#post2416654.
"I have been with SA on and off for 4 years. Mostly on, and when I was off, I tried secret benefits and a couple of other sites but SA has been my best site for a while. The biggest problem is the sheer number of fakers, no sex girls, girls looking for online only arrangements, and many outright scammers. It is a lot of work. But I the end it is all rewarding if you get hold of some good girls. The good news is that over time you build your database. Now I have several dozen girls in my stable so to speak."
I know MW, Elvis, several others who are experienced SDs have provided sound advice too. All of it documented, easily searchable.
On Jan 2, 2022 I said this:
http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/...008&viewfull=1#post2646008.
"I don't disagree there is a high amount of flakiness and if anything, it has increased massively since the pandemic.
That said, I don't disagree that SA is a lot of work. I used to think success rate is 5% to 10% at most, now it is probably 2%. I. E. If I send a "Hello, how are you?" message to 100 girls, the chance that I will actually fuck one of them is 2/100, AT the price point I want to. Even if I went up to $500 or more, the chance only increases to 10% to 20%. Nearly 50% or more of the "girls" on SA are absolute scammers, thieves."
In Jan'2022 I said the following.
http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/...468&viewfull=1#post2646468.
"I would say, 30% or more are total scammers. I. E. They might be dudes sitting in some foreign country looking to scam some money off horny US gentlemen.
At least a third or more will not have sex whatsoever. Platonic only. Nearly 80% of 18-20 age group falls into this category. Most of them do not even want to meet. Some of these girls can be totally clueless.
I'd say, the remaining (may be a third) are open to meet, perhaps to sex. Since I don't outright ask for sex due to concern about sting operations, it is always somewhat implied, never stated. I typically ask to meet for a drink / coffee meet. Here, many discussions break down. Quite a few want upfront payment for the intro meet. "why should I meet you and spend time if I don't get compensated" is a common refrain.
The change I have seen is that prepandemic to now, the percent demanding upfront payment has spiked up a lot. Very puzzling because so many are broke and need money.
Some of them are full of themselves. "my time is of value" they arrogantly claim.
That leaves really 10-20% who are truly interested and will meet and have sex and all that; since I will always have a allowance negotiation prior to a intro coffee meet, and with my strict discipline, I lose quite a few there."
The problem is that if you are the Newb type who will spike the ball after scoring a first down but leave the game after your first fumble, SA is not your thing. Experienced SA'ers knew this all along and even repeated the advice multiple times. Patience gets rewarded. Enjoy the process. Take your time. Don't pay up, don't get emotional; when things are low, keep your chin up and when things are high, don't strut and dance. These are good things to keep in mind in life, and definitely true on SA.
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04-19-22 19:00 #3192
Posts: 3278Originally Posted by TheCane [View Original Post]
Thing is I would really get like one date a month from seeking in the USA, one a day in Mexico, and in Colombia, it was like three per day. So I get giving it up in the USA. The real value though IMO is abroad.
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04-19-22 18:34 #3191
Posts: 3278Originally Posted by DonCarlos1234 [View Original Post]
Originally Posted by DonCarlos1234 [View Original Post]
When you go exclusive, the sex you are having and the intimacy is at a whole new level. The sex I had at the SB level was great but when I went exclusive, it was the next level up. My woman gives me everything she has now, and it is the best sex I have ever had in my life.
Temptation flares a little when my gal is not around but when I am with her, I do not care to be with anyone else. If you feel like you are not missing out on anything when you are with your gal, then I would go for exclusivity. In marriage you are giving up seeing other women and getting nothing in return. With my gal and I suspect with yours, they are going to make sure you are rewarded.
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04-19-22 17:48 #3190
Posts: 6441Hater?
Originally Posted by Bdb013 [View Original Post]
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04-19-22 17:28 #3189
Posts: 39SA London
I hope any of you with experience from London can give me some good advice?!
As intro; I'm on SA for 4 yrs, most arrangements are in south-east Europe, and occasionally I take women from SE Europe with me on my travels to western Europe. This time I'm thinking of arranging a date in London. So I did some pre-work (yeah, I've read many pages here; from the very first day on SA I practice only 30-days subscription, then I pause (even for 6+ months) since the filtering is a full-time job!) and one of possible dates "shocked me a bit".
She sent me one longer msg. Prt scr attached. And then we moved to Wapp.
So far I had two arrangements in LON, back in 2018 (both dates were very very good experience; Polish girls are / can be crazy)) !) and was 400/350. One was overnight until midday, followed by (after finally house keeping managed to "fix my room) daytime 3+ hrs tea in bar and amazing sex. That was funny stuff to handle the matter one out / another on-hold in bar while "begging" reception to do finally my room!
Out from what I read here, nowadays really are those prices in LON?
To me seems also this gal is pro. Not much texting on SA, she just sent Hi, and then that long text. On Wapp she just asked if I'm in LON, and then "OK see you then" and she sent me also 4 her pics.
One other, from UK around 35 year old, is looking for discreet arrangements but no any mention so far about gift for her. And then is another Australian (as above one), 36 yo with whom we chat in that real mode to get to know each other, before.
Thanks for any of your tips!
* now after I found this tread will try to post more, with some past SA experiences from several dates.
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04-19-22 13:41 #3188
Posts: 122I agree
Originally Posted by Steve9696 [View Original Post]
For all the SA haters out there, be willing to put in a little effort and it will pay dividends.