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  1. #3085
    Finally had a solid SA experience. Had a first date with a girl last week. Cute, early 20's with a nice behind. Had met for coffee the previous week and had gone fine. A few hours before she texts to confirm ppm and asks if I'the been tested. Said I had in Feb, she had as well. When clothes started coming off she said she was ok with bb and said she was on the pill so I cip. I was a little surprised at how comfortable she was with it. Afterwards I asked her if she was seeing anyone else and she said not at the moment, same for me. Told her I didn't mind if she did but I'the want to know and use protection if she was. I'm still a little worried she could be lying about the pill so pull out next time. Planning on seeing her next weekend, hoping it could be regular.

    I know initial coffee platonic date isn't recommended but it makes planning much easier for me. Got a reservation at a nice place, hotel 5 minutes away. The ambiguity and logistics stress me out on first meets when I'm not sure what they're down for.

    This was also the first time I took v. It definitely helped but I'm a little sad I needed it even with bb barely over 30. Does it affect your sensation at all? I wasn't really sure. Are you guys able to have sex without it? I don't want it to be a crutch either.

  2. #3084
    Quote Originally Posted by Gfefan  [View Original Post]
    Steve.

    When you meet these girls after long, do you go BB?

    One of my SBs I met months ago is coming to town. I am most likely not going to BB considering she would have met other men. I don't ask her because we had a great equation when we were regular. Don't want to offend her. On the other hand, when I wrap my tool, she is probably going to roll her eyes as historically we have been BB and fucked like dogs. LOL.
    Had one who hinted after our first time of sex it wasn't necessary. She was seeing 1-2 other guys. Then after a few meets said she was taking the pill, dropping it as a hint. By that time I was her only one (she said). Never had a meet to try it out.

    Then there one which let to BB one the first meet with sex. She was one top and just slid it in, and I didn't ask / protest. After sex she wsaid she was on the pill and there was nothing to worry. She was seeing two other guys but not frequent.

    Quote Originally Posted by GoingDumb  [View Original Post]
    How do you guys bring up bb / cip without spooking them? Multiple posts have advised not to bring up sex or compensation. Is bb something you only do with regular sb?
    I don't, I leave it to the lady to let it know when she feels comfortable doing it. And if it does come up it has to be somebody I'm planning to see frequent.

  3. #3083
    I was in a smaller city this weekend and planned to meet up with two girls. I did not discuss price with them prior. The first girl is 26 said she is a student. We planned on meeting up at a cafe, but only communicated with her by text which was my mistake so I got stood up. I should have called her a day prior before meeting. Fast forward to later that night, went out with girl #2 24 years old. She was with me at dinner for about 2 hours we were having a good time. Went back to the hotel and I started to kiss her on the neck and boobs. She didn't want to make out with me because it's not her thing, OKI get it you don't want to make out with me. I had her top off when she asked me about money. This girl was expecting me to give her $1000 wtf. She said her last arrangement was giving her 1500 per meet. Who is out here paying girls 1500 for sex? She left after I offered her a few hundred and sounded insulted saying crap like a guy who makes X could afford it. My subscription on seeking expired and I'm not renewing. It just doesn't seem worth it in the US. Other countries works great, but there is too much golden pussy syndrome in the US.

  4. #3082
    Quote Originally Posted by Steve9696  [View Original Post]
    So Cane's comment that it's super common made me poke around. Definitely no consensus on name. Some say table top. Some say Edge of Bed. And it appears Butterfly might be the most elegant term. I'm going to continue to go with The Steve since I guess I am not sex educated enough and just made it up one time. Anyhow. Butterfly or The Steve. It's the BEST by any other name.
    I did this position with the first girl I had sex with kind of on accident. Pushed her backwards on to the bed and did it. Finding a bed the right height is the hardest part though LOL. It's the only way I like miss.

  5. #3081
    Quote Originally Posted by TeFab456  [View Original Post]
    The crypto scam Asians have been all over the place since more than 12 months (SA, Tinder) some of them play a pretty long game with a lot of chatting but all their personal stories are made up.
    To add legitimacy they will be using legitimate pics and stories from real girls so they a have a daily feed of new pics.

  6. #3080

    No Consensus!

    Quote Originally Posted by Globo  [View Original Post]
    Hey Steve,

    That is also a position of choice for me although if the bed is low I do get a crap after a while and need to reposition. Oddly enough I always kinda thought of it as modified Missionary.

    But henceforth I shall refer to it by its proper name The Steve.
    So Cane's comment that it's super common made me poke around. Definitely no consensus on name. Some say table top. Some say Edge of Bed. And it appears Butterfly might be the most elegant term. I'm going to continue to go with The Steve since I guess I am not sex educated enough and just made it up one time. Anyhow. Butterfly or The Steve. It's the BEST by any other name.

  7. #3079
    Quote Originally Posted by Steve9696  [View Original Post]
    I think I mentioned before my fave position I call The Steve just because I've never seen a name for it. It is absolutely the best but most girls are unfamiliar with it. It is amazing because:

    It's like mish but you don't get tired.

    You can def fuck forever like this.

    You can watch the slide in and out action.

    You can optionally lean over and make out.

    You can do the dick to clit massage thing so easy.

    Girls love it.

    I am surprised how when I stand up, grab my girls ankles and haul her to the edge of the bed they are always surprised. Like they have never done it before. Even fairly pro girls. It is the most under rated position on the planet.
    Hey Steve,

    That is also a position of choice for me although if the bed is low I do get a crap after a while and need to reposition. Oddly enough I always kinda thought of it as modified Missionary.

    But henceforth I shall refer to it by its proper name The Steve.

  8. #3078

    The Steve

    Quote Originally Posted by Steve9696  [View Original Post]
    I think I mentioned before my fave position I call The Steve just because I've never seen a name for it. It is absolutely the best but most girls are unfamiliar with it. It is amazing because:

    It's like mish but you don't get tired.

    You can def fuck forever like this.

    You can watch the slide in and out action.

    You can optionally lean over and make out.

    You can do the dick to clit massage thing so easy.

    Girls love it.

    I am surprised how when I stand up, grab my girls ankles and haul her to the edge of the bed they are always surprised. Like they have never done it before. Even fairly pro girls. It is the most under rated position on the planet.
    That's seen in porn all the time. Don't know why any girl would act like it's something novel. It's not. Maybe they haven't watched a lot of porn? LOL! I like to do something similar, only I like them on all fours "perro-style" at the edge of the bed. The Cane? LOL!

  9. #3077

    OT: Public Service Announcement

    I think I mentioned before my fave position I call The Steve just because I've never seen a name for it. It is absolutely the best but most girls are unfamiliar with it. It is amazing because:

    It's like mish but you don't get tired.

    You can def fuck forever like this.

    You can watch the slide in and out action.

    You can optionally lean over and make out.

    You can do the dick to clit massage thing so easy.

    Girls love it.

    I am surprised how when I stand up, grab my girls ankles and haul her to the edge of the bed they are always surprised. Like they have never done it before. Even fairly pro girls. It is the most under rated position on the planet.

    Technique. Stand at edge of bed. Have girl roll on her back. Grab her ankles and pull her down till pussy is at edge of bed. Feet in air spread wide. Spread your legs till you lower enough to line up pussy with dick. And voila in you go. Lean over from time to time to make out. Pull out and dick clit massage from time to time and plunge deep again.

    I promise you will love this position if you have not done it before. Let us know how it goes!

  10. #3076

    All the time

    Encountered many like this. Exact modus operandi as you explained.

    One example: a 20 something Chinese girl based in Hongkong makes a million / year selling wine.

    Wanted me to invest into some stock trading platform (meta trader). I asked her send a video message saying my name. End of story. LOL.

    I even came accross very similar scammers on Tinder as well.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ggekko2009  [View Original Post]
    I am sharing some of the red flags that I had encountered in SA and transition to WhatsApp.

    - Pay special attention to initiation of contact from the girl who would then want to transition to WhatsApp, and then finding that message thread disappear from your message list the next day.

    - On WhatsApp, she would appear to so caring to be the point of being annoying, questions like "How's your day? Did you have a good rest? Have you eaten yet? Etc etc. " Maybe if she claimed to be an Asian, that could fit into the profile, but to say that she is an European who happened to be living in the US, yeah right. Anyway, even for Asian girl, I would still look at it with suspicion.

  11. #3075
    Quote Originally Posted by Ggekko2009  [View Original Post]
    Feels like a scam that they want to reel you in initially. I could be a cynics, but has anyone ever encountered this before?
    The crypto scam Asians have been all over the place since more than 12 months (SA, Tinder) some of them play a pretty long game with a lot of chatting but all their personal stories are made up.

  12. #3074

    Red Flags to Watch For

    I am sharing some of the red flags that I had encountered in SA and transition to WhatsApp.

    - Pay special attention to initiation of contact from the girl who would then want to transition to WhatsApp, and then finding that message thread disappear from your message list the next day.

    - On WhatsApp, she would appear to so caring to be the point of being annoying, questions like "How's your day? Did you have a good rest? Have you eaten yet? Etc etc. " Maybe if she claimed to be an Asian, that could fit into the profile, but to say that she is an European who happened to be living in the US, yeah right. Anyway, even for Asian girl, I would still look at it with suspicion.

    - Saying that she is into cryptography or XYZ investment, that is another red flag to hook you in.

    So a girl in the US initiated a chat with me last night on SA and we moved to WhatsApp last night and this girl claimed to be a Dutch who happened to living with her relatives now in the US. The next day, she chatted with me again, except this time, I tried to check up on her contact info in WhatsApp. I guessed she (or maybe even a he) failed to remove the "About Me" section and there were Chinese text that said 线 上 which means online. I probed her by trying to chat up with her in Dutch (courtesy of translate app) and she began to question me on my insincerity yadiyada. She never replied to me in Dutch and she said she did not know any Chinese. I checked back the message section on SA, that message thread was gone. Anyway, I blocked her ass on my WhatsApp.

    I had also encountered other instances where the girl would say she is from HongKong or some other Asian countries and then after a few idle chat, asked me what I do and then said she is into cryptocurrency or other BS investment etc. Anyway, I always put them on my ignore list.

    Feels like a scam that they want to reel you in initially. I could be a cynics, but has anyone ever encountered this before?

  13. #3073
    Quote Originally Posted by HumbleHal  [View Original Post]
    I just got banned for "soliciting prostitution" on their website. Then I got an email that said they banned me from their sister websites and "reserved the right" to turn me in to local authorities. Has anyone ever been turned in or had bad action other than being banned?
    Many including myself have been banned. I once also received a requirement to sit through 10 minutes of good behaviour videos before I could login again. I have seen the "reserved the right" message but maybe I didn't bother reading it in enough detail.

  14. #3072

    Yep!

    Quote Originally Posted by Ggekko2009  [View Original Post]
    Suspecting this to be a scam, since each time anyone initiated a contact and carry on a conversation, she would always dive into what I do and then follow with her mentioning that she is into cryptocurrency investment. Trying to get me interested and in most cases I would just mention I don't know much and not interested in such activities, and the conversation will slowly die away.

    Anyone encountering this type of contacts from women in the US?
    All the time. Nothing but a pure scam! I mean, how many 20+ year-olds do you know who are financial gurus who got rich investing in cryptocurrencies and such? If it was that easy, don't you know everybody would be doing it? No, what most hot girls do it look for a man to take care of their asses. Things got to the point that if anybody mentioned that to me, or said something about that in their profile, it was an immediate block!

  15. #3071

    My SA Experience in Bogota

    Decided to spend a bit of time away working remotely while checking out life in Bogota. My other objective was to experience personally what some of these regular girls can offer primarily through SA. This is my second trip to Bogota.

    There is definitely a lot of work that needs to be done on SA, and for me, it is a learning process. Many have reported that it is just too much work on SA without the sight of quick return. I would agree especially if the preferred method is to bang as many girls with least minimal effort.

    It will be very difficult to meet and get the girl that one want and willing to have sex with on a short notice on SA. However, if one is of the type who prefer companionship with sexual intimacy, SA could be a potential avenue to explore.

    A month prior to my trip, I had started to collect the girls contact info. So much so, I have more girls willing to meet than I have time for them. Naturally, I will prioritize girls who are showing more interest in me than simply ignoring me beyond a simple greeting. Probably in hindsight, it is not the best approach, but without much prior experience, I work with with what I have.

    These were the girls that I met in person.

    SA Girl #1

    Got a message from this SA girl on my first evening in Bogota. I was surprised that she kept tab of when I would be in Bogota based on my last conversation almost a month back and with whom I had never chatted since.

    I gave this girl a wider berth since she seemed to be fluent in English, and as I did not feel like eating dinner alone. She happened to be in the area on a medical visit when she chatted with me and I invited her over for a dinner. We had a pretty good dinner date and did not do anything beyond that since I was tired and would have a important meeting that I need to prepare for the next day. So we parted after dinner but kept the option of seeing each again open over the weekend.

    SA Girl #2

    She is probably one of the most enthusiastic lot given how she would check in on me regularly even prior to reaching Bogota. She is in her early 20's and looked cute in the picture that she sent me and I imagined that she has a nice pair of boobs underneath.

    I had a few hours to spare during daytime after lunch and scheduled a time for her to come. I met her in a coffeeshop near my apartment before heading back together.

    I made a noobie mistake of not clarifying on the service that I wanted before our meeting. So when she asked for protection while we were making out, I did not want to insist on BB on her. Anyway, her tits were simply boobalicious. Also, this was the first time I was with any girl who can really squirt. I was taken back when her pussy juice were spraying all over my bed and I had to scramble for a towel to contain this mess.

    I asked if she has sex with many other people afterwards but said she only have sex with her boyfriend. I had seen her boyfriend in her WhatsApp post in the past. She wanted to see me again, I told her only if she is willing to go BB the next time which she agreed. She was a college student and was on SA for only a month and I was her first encounter.

    Alas, I did not have the time for the second meet, since I had so many other girls that I want to try out with my somewhat limited time.

    SA Girl #3

    I had this Girl #3 the next day who is in her mid-20's. She was almost as enthusiastic as Girl #2. This time I learned from the earlier mistake, and told her that I wanted BB before agreeing for her to come by in the evening, and she agreed.

    I asked her to send me her photo to be taken at that moment and unfiltered, which she did shortly. She did not look that great in that photo but was not too bad either. So I told her to come over to my apartment after her restaurant shift in the evening.

    When she arrived, she looked much cuter in person than in her photo. I was attracted by her smile and that almost innocent girl next door look. Before the deed, we showered together because I wanted to go down on her and also expecting reciprocity. She was one of the only SA girl where I received a BJ and a decent one too. The sex was only okay.

    I asked her how long she had done this and she mentioned that I was her first SD with an expected meet up with another SD the following month.

    Anyway, after sex, I was hungry and we walked to Zona T where there were plenty of good restaurants. During dinner, I asked if she has friends and she hinted if I was interested in a threesome and I mentioned I would like it only if she is comfortable with it.

    Then she showed me a photo of this girl (SA Girl #5) whom I recognize from one of the SA girls that I had communicated earlier. At that moment, I was thinking maybe I can have her spend the weekend with me while giving me the option of exploring other girls while she was with me. I offered her the arrangement for her to stay with me over the weekend and she agreed. On hindsight, it was probably a mistake as I was hoping to replicate the fun times that I used to have with this Colombian bisexual girl in my previous trip.

    At that moment, I forgot that I have already a meet with SA Girl #4 that evening for a dinner and sex. I did not want to cancel of that girl since she looked so pretty in that picture that she sent me and a really nice pair of rack. Plus she had also agreed to BB. So, I reshuffled our meet to noon the next day.

    Girl #3 showed up on my apartment the next evening after work, and we had a quickie before heading over to the Irish pub in Zona T to meet up with a new ISG member and a friend who happened to be in Bogota at that time. After a few drinks there, my friends and us headed over to the Lio bar and had a wild night partying in that club. I was completely wasted that night and the girl and I both woke up with a huge hangover the following day.

    Anyway, without dragging out the boring details, the longer this girl stayed with me the less that I like her. That initial infatuation that I felt for her wore off. Many small details added up to big ones that would prevent me from ever wanting her to stay any longer than a meet in the future.

    SA Girl #4

    She is only 19 but, oh boy, she was the best screw among all the SA girls. I say SA girls, since I actually had better sessions with the escort agency girls, which I will write up below.

    Anyway, I rescheduled our meet to noon that Saturday since I have asked Girl #3 to come that evening to accompany me that night through the weekend.

    This girl wanted me to send her an Uber which I did. For a 10-mile ride, the total trip took an hour on a weekend. This gives you an idea of how bad Bogota's traffic is.

    I met her in front of the building and we headed for lunch together to a restaurant nearby since I was hungry. She was shy and almost quiet during this whole encounter. When she took off her mask, I was actually disappointed that she was not as attractive as her photo. Still attractive but not as good.

    After lunch, we headed back to my apartment and we were in the apartment, this girl transformed into a wild one in bed. She would kiss me passionately and as soon as our clothes were off, she would dry hump me as I fondled and sucked on her big natural tits and my dick got super hard real fast. Just as soon, she took off of her underwear, climbed on top of me and slid my dick into her pussy. She would gyrate her hips and those internal friction made me came before long. As I came into her pussy and she would continue to gyrate non-stop until I have to eventually stop her as I can't take it any longer.

    We chatted for a while and 10 minutes in, and my dick would get hard again. She would grab it and started to ride me. Coming twice in a single day is somewhat of a rarity for me these days. Making me come twice in a span of an hour requires a real skillset from that girl. I came into her again but at that point, it was probably just blanks. Let's hope that she does not claim to be pregnant in a few months.

    SA Girl #5

    This girl was on SA the longest and told me she had two SD before me with the platform. Turned out that she was a Venezuelan. I conducted the same protocol with this girl, unfiltered photo and if she is okay with BB. One thing that struck me was she said that even though she took great care of herself, she was willing to do it with me. We agreed to meet and have her come to my apartment that evening. Anyway, this girl turned out to be a real disaster in bed, which I would explain later.

    At this time, I had not yet has a chance to use the service of my go-to escort agency eroticasbogota, and I wanted to sample their girls again while in Bogota.

    So I texted them and picked Diana who was able to do CIM as an extra service. She showed up at my apartment in the afternoon, and she was this cute spinner with a beautiful balanced sets of body and tits. Very passionate and GFE and I told her that I wanted to CIM before I screw her and she obliged.

    I did not get a chance to do a CIM so far, and that was the best come that I had so far in this trip. For a minute or so as she sucked them all up, I thought that she might swallow it until she gestured for a permission to go to the bathroom to spit them out. We continued with more banging afterwards. Overall, it was a good session and the girls from eroticasbogota rarely disappoint.

    I got a few hours to recuperate before my next meet with SA Girl #5.

    I told this girl to be at my apartment at 6 pm and given that she lives at Chapinero, I thought it would not take too much time. 30 minutes in, she said she was still on her way and she showed me a screen shot of where she was and how much more time it would take to reach my apartment.

    To my surprise, her screen shot was showing it to be still 50 minutes away and what is worse, it was showing how long it would be to walk to my place. WTF. I told her to grab an Uber and I will pay for it which she immediately did.

    When she got to my apartment, we spent a good time chatting and she was a pretty upbeat girl. I was not ready to dive straight into sex since I had already done so a few hours earlier with Diana.

    My friend texted me then and asked me if I would like to grab dinner or a drink since I will be flying back the next day. I said yes and told him that I will be bringing along this girl. By the time we wrapped up our dinner, it was 9 pm. The girl mentioned to me earlier that she need a hard stop at 11 PM. I offered her extra if she can stay later or until the next morning, and she was adamant that she can't and had to leave no latter than 11 PM as previously agreed with me.

    Since I wanted to know how it was like to bang this girl, I had to cut the meeting with my friend short and hurried back to my apartment on taxi. I really didn't like the rush. Anyway, when we got to my apartment, we stripped and she asked me what I would like. I said let's start with a BBJ and then a BB. She resisted with the BB initially until I showed her our previous text on WhatsApp. Alas, it was for nothing, since after I poked my dick into her pussy, I smelled something was not right, and I meant that literally. Her pussy had this unbearable stench, and I just dipped my dick into that stench.

    I stopped all activities and went to the bathroom to wash it off with a wet towel. Still that stench remained, and I had to take a shower and probably used my body wash three times to get rid of that smell. I have to say that a stinky pussy is like a kryptonite.

    Given it was my last night, I did not want to end my trip with this stench. I texted eroticasbogota to see if they can still send a girl over to me at this hours, and they said yes and one can arrive in 30 minutes. After that, I stepped out of the bathroom and while the girl was still wondering what was going on, I paid her and gave her taxi money and told her that I need her to leave in 5 minutes. She did but was still wondering what was going on. Anyway, that will be the last time I will be seeing her.

    About 30 minutes later, Hanna from the agency came. The front desk called me if it is ok to let her up and I said yes. Hanna was just as adorable as Diana and her service was just as good.

    I was glad that I was able to leave Bogota with a still favorable experience and had these agency girls come to the "rescue" when needed.

    Anyway, this is my first experience with SA girls and I thought of sharing this with everyone.

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