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  1. #2974
    Quote Originally Posted by Midwestern  [View Original Post]
    I used to value exclusive arrangements a lot
    I always tell the woman I am looking for an "exclusive arrangement. " Then they think they are the only one. All 5 of them. And they are more likely to go bareback if they think they are the only one.

  2. #2973

    But how to explain it to the missus?

    Epic advice and detailed instructions! But there's an elephant in the room. How to explain your sudden desire in having a bald eagle to the missus? I have told many old and married doods to shave their cock, because pros, mistresses, GFs, SBs, like a shaved cock. But they always respond, "but my wife will think it is weird that my cock is suddenly clean shaven. ".

    Quote Originally Posted by Steve9696  [View Original Post]
    First things first. Anyone who says it doesn't matter has clearly never done it. It matters A LOT to the girls and honestly it improves the feel of BLS by about 2 X. Win win. But I thought it might help to share some about the mechanics and tips from the school of hard knocks (been doing about six months)

    Do not skimp on razor and do not attempt with a mens double blade. Get a Venus five blade with the built in lube strips. Do not ignore this part. It is probably the single most important part.

    Final tip. The way I typically initiate is during BJ. I gently slip it out of her mouth and pull it up against my tummy and say "can you do down here" indicating my balls area. And down they go!

    Have fun!

  3. #2972
    Quote Originally Posted by Akibono  [View Original Post]
    Unless you are paying enough to cover all her expenses, I expect them to see others on the side. It's about sex and not ego.
    We have all been there.

    If you hit off with a SB, the excitment and the attraction blurs a few fundamental things, namely its a transactional relationship with consideration involved.

    No matter how good it is, everyone is partial with the truth. I am pretty sure, if as a SD I found another 10/10 with whom I clicked, I'd wouln't pass the opportunity. Works.

    Both ways.

    And yes we all stalk in our own ways.

  4. #2971
    Quote Originally Posted by JJanni  [View Original Post]
    So, I've reupped with Seeking to kill the dead couple of weeks I'm going to have to hang around in the UK.

    Chatting to lots of quality girls. My current exotic 'accessing from' location is playing into my favour. I'm spinning quite the story haha.

    Some observations so far. It might just be me, my luck, British girls or a sign of the times. But I'm talking insta-ho level girls are agreeing to BBFSCIP readily.

    I've got one potential freebie lined up on my UK doorstep. An in shape MILF who sent me some very interesting pictures.

    And I'm back on touch with my chavvy teen dream from last year. The little spinner with a drum taut body, olive skin, black hair and doe eyes. 19 now. Fed her some cock and bull story to explain my ghosting.

    She's still up for a ppm of 100 gbp. She's still as chavvy and lazy at replying as she was. And she's already tried to get money out of me before we meet, same as last time.

    I'm thinking I just got lucky last time I met her and on any other day, she'd flake. She just needed money for a Friday night out, none of her scamming had paid off and I was sat in a hotel room three miles from her, offering 100 quid to fuck her.

    I doubt it'd pay off again. Maybe I should leave it as a happy memory rather than chase it again. The same level of thrill wouldn't be there. The first time with a girl is always the best for me.

    But man, I'm sorely tempted to throw caution to the wind again. I've fucked 18 and 19 year old girls in a few different countries, but the added thrill of it being a girl of the same nationality. How cute she is. How chavvy.

    Who am I kidding, I'm giving it another shot haha.
    You're unlikely to score with anyone for £100 GBP. If you are charming you would be lucky to get the girls to agree £200 ppm in london which is where most of the action is. Usual asking is anywhere between 250-400.

  5. #2970
    So, I've reupped with Seeking to kill the dead couple of weeks I'm going to have to hang around in the UK.

    Chatting to lots of quality girls. My current exotic 'accessing from' location is playing into my favour. I'm spinning quite the story haha.

    Some observations so far. It might just be me, my luck, British girls or a sign of the times. But I'm talking insta-ho level girls are agreeing to BBFSCIP readily.

    I've got one potential freebie lined up on my UK doorstep. An in shape MILF who sent me some very interesting pictures.

    And I'm back on touch with my chavvy teen dream from last year. The little spinner with a drum taut body, olive skin, black hair and doe eyes. 19 now. Fed her some cock and bull story to explain my ghosting.

    She's still up for a ppm of 100 gbp. She's still as chavvy and lazy at replying as she was. And she's already tried to get money out of me before we meet, same as last time.

    I'm thinking I just got lucky last time I met her and on any other day, she'd flake. She just needed money for a Friday night out, none of her scamming had paid off and I was sat in a hotel room three miles from her, offering 100 quid to fuck her.

    I doubt it'd pay off again. Maybe I should leave it as a happy memory rather than chase it again. The same level of thrill wouldn't be there. The first time with a girl is always the best for me.

    But man, I'm sorely tempted to throw caution to the wind again. I've fucked 18 and 19 year old girls in a few different countries, but the added thrill of it being a girl of the same nationality. How cute she is. How chavvy.

    Who am I kidding, I'm giving it another shot haha.

  6. #2969
    Quote Originally Posted by Midwestern  [View Original Post]
    Pros know how to give great BJs, and they know how to get guys hard for covered sex. They have been doing it for years. For SBs, they will definitely be less adept at both.

    For me, I always use V or see the first time I have sex with anyone that I am in to. If I were in your shoes, I would be kicking myself for not taking a V or see, and I would be looking at that 500 bucks as wasted money. But that said, you did learn some stuff about yourself and about SA, and you helped a poor gal out. So, it's all good.
    I've never tried either since it hasn't been much of an issue lately. Do they work even if you're nervous? I have more nerves the first time with regular girls but have been OK with pros.

  7. #2968

    Condoms and getting hard

    Quote Originally Posted by GoingDumb  [View Original Post]
    Unfortunately little guy got spooked by the cover so sex didn't happen but I enjoyed fingering her a couple times. She was super tight and super wet, to the point where I asked her if it was ok since she was so tight. Had she been ok with bb I'm sure it wouldn't have been an issue but oh well. I thought I was ok with condoms after hobbying for a couple years and it not being an issue but maybe it's a difference between pros and regular girls. Funnily enough she asked if I had problems with condoms but of course I didn't want to tell her it'd been fine with escorts the last 2-3 years. I've also noticed the BJs from the 2 seeking girls don't do much for me but somehow the FKK girls last summer get it going when I'm shy. Curious if anyone else has noticed issues like this.
    .
    Pros know how to give great BJs, and they know how to get guys hard for covered sex. They have been doing it for years. For SBs, they will definitely be less adept at both.

    For me, I always use V or see the first time I have sex with anyone that I am in to. If I were in your shoes, I would be kicking myself for not taking a V or see, and I would be looking at that 500 bucks as wasted money. But that said, you did learn some stuff about yourself and about SA, and you helped a poor gal out. So, it's all good.

  8. #2967
    Quote Originally Posted by AsianPursuits  [View Original Post]
    You re right about the mental mind shift that we need to make. Probably I was thinking SBs would be exclusive but a few years down the track I know they are far from that.
    I used to value exclusive arrangements a lot, but in hindsight, I realize that most of them did not end well.

  9. #2966
    Quote Originally Posted by Akibono  [View Original Post]
    Unless you are paying enough to cover all her expenses, I expect them to see others on the side. It's about sex and not ego.
    For me, it was only 50% about ego. The other 50% was because I was barebacking her, and given that she let me bareback her so readily, I assumed that she would let any SD bareback her, and so I did not want to be barebacking someone that was barebacking a bunch of other guys too. If she were having covered sex with a bunch of other people, then I would not care that much probably.

  10. #2965
    Quote Originally Posted by Midwestern  [View Original Post]
    My suggestiion is to not worry about it. When I lived in SF, I was very involved with an SB in another city. After we met, she deleted her profile on SA, but I was obsessed with making sure that she was not searching for other SDs. Eventually, I found her profile on another similar site. And then, I discovered that she had another profile on SA as well. It drove me crazy. But I eventually decided that it was better to not care if any of my SBs were seeking on the side. After all, I was seeking on the side too.
    You re right about the mental mind shift that we need to make. Probably I was thinking SBs would be exclusive but a few years down the track I know they are far from that.

  11. #2964

    Seeing the potential

    I met up with a girl yesterday for what I thought was a meet and greet but turned into more. After learning she was going out of town for the weekend I asked if she wanted to come back to my place and she agreed. PPM of 500 had already been agreed to on text but I had to get the money while she waited. Luckily there was an ATM where we met up LOL. This time was much better than my first time, she had a great body and I was much more attracted to her. Unfortunately little guy got spooked by the cover so sex didn't happen but I enjoyed fingering her a couple times. She was super tight and super wet, to the point where I asked her if it was ok since she was so tight. Had she been ok with bb I'm sure it wouldn't have been an issue but oh well. I thought I was ok with condoms after hobbying for a couple years and it not being an issue but maybe it's a difference between pros and regular girls. Funnily enough she asked if I had problems with condoms but of course I didn't want to tell her it'd been fine with escorts the last 2-3 years. I've also noticed the BJs from the 2 seeking girls don't do much for me but somehow the FKK girls last summer get it going when I'm shy. Curious if anyone else has noticed issues like this.

    After this I see why you guys like seeking. I'd see this girl again if I were local but might be worth another visit. It was much better than the dark aamps I'm used to with women who are at least 10 years older with fake boobs. It was great feeling how wet she got and fingering her since I don't think I've ever done that with an escort. DFK was also much better obviously. I'm definitely motivated to keep trying on seeking and hopefully find something like this with a regular.

  12. #2963
    Quote Originally Posted by Midwestern  [View Original Post]
    My suggestiion is to not worry about it. When I lived in SF, I was very involved with an SB in another city. After we met, she deleted her profile on SA, but I was obsessed with making sure that she was not searching for other SDs. Eventually, I found her profile on another similar site. And then, I discovered that she had another profile on SA as well. It drove me crazy. But I eventually decided that it was better to not care if any of my SBs were seeking on the side. After all, I was seeking on the side too.
    Unless you are paying enough to cover all her expenses, I expect them to see others on the side. It's about sex and not ego.

  13. #2962
    Quote Originally Posted by AsianPursuits  [View Original Post]

    She had deleted her profile before the meet, so if she keeps it offline hopefully that means she's not searching another.
    My suggestiion is to not worry about it. When I lived in SF, I was very involved with an SB in another city. After we met, she deleted her profile on SA, but I was obsessed with making sure that she was not searching for other SDs. Eventually, I found her profile on another similar site. And then, I discovered that she had another profile on SA as well. It drove me crazy. But I eventually decided that it was better to not care if any of my SBs were seeking on the side. After all, I was seeking on the side too.

  14. #2961
    Quote Originally Posted by AsianPursuits  [View Original Post]
    She had deleted her profile before the meet, so if she keeps it offline hopefully that means she's not searching another.
    It is, but I had one woman go right back on line with a new profile once and block me. I did not give a damn as I was seeing multiple women, and she was hardly a keeper. But if you want to know for sure if she is off, you create another profile, and you do not have to pay for it, and keep updates on the newbies in your area.

    But with most women, when they said they were off line, they really were.

  15. #2960
    Quote Originally Posted by TeFab456  [View Original Post]
    Give her an experience.
    Thanks for the feedback gentlemen. I had progressed the arrangement and she has just left this morning a very happy girl. For a nice dinner and a few rounds of sex overnight and this morning she earned a week of her minimum salary job. It will be interesting to see if she's back next week.

    She had deleted her profile before the meet, so if she keeps it offline hopefully that means she's not searching another.

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