Seeking Arrangements

[AmericanPi]

Man. That's a scary story.

Not trying to judge at all. Just saying I would be living in fear of a phone call or knock on the door for a long time.

I actually use a burner phone and email account too. But then I always think, "could they get my contact info if she went to the hotel and asked who registered the room on April 21 in room 252?

Bottom line: bag it up. Always bag it up.

While I was traveling in Asia I met a regular girl via wechat. She was in town visiting her father whom had a new wife. Some family issues but she seemed genuine girl. We chatted via wechat then met for a drink one evening. Didn't get drunk but held her hand walking her safely back to her hotel, then room. I wasn't prepared as I thought it was just a friendly chat. So, no condoms, she revealed a super hot body and a certain eagerness. So a few rounds later I left at dawn. We chatted more but our schedules didn't align again. A month later I got her message about being pregnant. I chatted a little but had to cut the communication. I had a burner wechat which was her only connection to me. Was it a scam or was it real? I will never know. Some days I have distant thoughts to try track her down but I have chosen not to pursue her. I cannot see any good coming from it..

[Spidy]

... I once had this 9 model from Germany. She moved from 300 to 600 and then back to 500 in 24 hours of whatsapp chat. I point blank told her "listen, lets not waste each others time. If there are guys willing to pay you so much, I am happy for you. Leave me alone".

She said "Look at me. You think you will get a hot one like me? I said "what makes you think I am looking for hotness quotient? I am looking for attitude quotient. Hotness is bonus but you score zero on attitude. Goodbye". She was left stunned and speechless. I walked off. Period.

You had me LMAO, at "...attitude quotient...you score zero on attitude". I'll have to remember to use that one.

Yeah, a women's looks aren't even #2 on my list. Not looking to rehash the topic (as I'm sure it been discussed ad nauseam here), but for me it is as follows: 1. Attitude 2.Body 3. Looks/Face.

Europe. LOL. USA. No way. US is such a waste in this. ...

I've yet to play in this dating space and may never do so, especially in the states. However, it is good to see/read from posts like this one and other contributing BMs to this thread, that there are fertile grounds, outside the US, in this dating space, for finding "what you want", at your price point.

To all, the knowledgeable info and the odd chuckle, is much appreciated. Cheers!

[AsianPursuits]

My biggest fear is a text in a few months saying I'm pregnant and in my country you're in the hook for 18 years so if you ever pass thru this airport we'll be seeing each other. Said nicely of course. Ain't worth it. Bag it up.

While I was traveling in Asia I met a regular girl via wechat. She was in town visiting her father whom had a new wife. Some family issues but she seemed genuine girl. We chatted via wechat then met for a drink one evening. Didn't get drunk but held her hand walking her safely back to her hotel, then room. I wasn't prepared as I thought it was just a friendly chat. So, no condoms, she revealed a super hot body and a certain eagerness. So a few rounds later I left at dawn. We chatted more but our schedules didn't align again. A month later I got her message about being pregnant. I chatted a little but had to cut the communication. I had a burner wechat which was her only connection to me. Was it a scam or was it real? I will never know. Some days I have distant thoughts to try track her down but I have chosen not to pursue her. I cannot see any good coming from it.

Anyway, point of my story, if you will BB girls in developing countries decide how you will deal with this issue. If I am not using contraception I will not cum inside.

[AmericanPi]

Do you trade std tests first or anything? I've seen it discussed on the seeking forum on reddit but haven't seen any mention of it here. Does she agree to take the morning after pill the next day too? Between stds and fears she might entrapment me with a kid seems too risky.

Totally.

My biggest fear is a text in a few months saying I'm pregnant and in my country you're in the hook for 18 years so if you ever pass thru this airport we'll be seeing each other. Said nicely of course. Ain't worth it. Bag it up.

I actually flush condoms down the toilet every time to make sure the semen is totally gone from the scene.

I even sometimes say I've had a vasectomy to basically say don't even think about it.

[SamPeter71]

I just got this SA bug after my trips to Mexico (CDMX and GDL). I would plan my future trips to other countries. I wanted to know from the experts which cities has good number of young slim girls under 25 at decent price.

Any thoughts? List of cities and average prices / range etc.

Thanks in advance.

[SamPeter71]

My 1st trip to CDMX. I was there for a week. Signed up SA membership month before my trip. I really liked the SA girls. It is lot of work and many a times frustrating to deal with these girls.

On an average I met 2 girls a day. Some are outright pro. Most of them are semi pro.

I also met girls who didn't ask money and we spent good amount of time at nice restaurants but no sex too. Those are the ones very selective and / or looking for long term arrangements.

Girls who don't ask money upfront generally turned out to be better experience than the ones who ask money upfront. Also I paid more to the girls who didn't ask money upfront if their service is better or I liked them. If someone sets a $ upfront that is what they got.

Mostly GFE. Sex is just a small part of overall experience. I went out to walk, cafes, shopping etc with them.

It will be hard for me to go back to typical escorts or other transactional places like casas etc.

Language is a big barrier for me as I don't know Spanish. Now to make most out of this, I will learn Spanish.

Now SA is my new obsession.

[AsianPursuits]

so she was at least my age if not older. When the clothes came off I wasn't that attracted to her body which probably killed it..

You are still young and looking for attachment. A few more years in this game and you'll learn to get hard to fuck anything. Girls are all different, they all have something unique and one of the skills you will find is how to explore her and find what makes her excited.

As for the body, turn off the lights?

[GoingDumb]

I have come to fully understand what Steve says "spoiled" forever.

I have an upcoming trip to Germany. Usually, I enjoyed FKK scene. The idea of being with 20/30 naked women, with me occasionally flashing my tool through the bathrobe. It was weirdly funny.

This week, I am. Going to be at a place hardly 20 km from one of the best FKK's but here I am setting up my plan with Miss J.

The fact that I don't need to look for a condom when I am ready to slide it in, the fact that I don't need to watch clock, the fact that I can fuck her bare as many times I can. Has knocked FKK out of my thoughts.

Do you trade std tests first or anything? I've seen it discussed on the seeking forum on reddit but haven't seen any mention of it here. Does she agree to take the morning after pill the next day too? Between stds and fears she might entrapment me with a kid seems too risky.

[Gfefan]

I have come to fully understand what Steve says "spoiled" forever.

I have an upcoming trip to Germany. Usually, I enjoyed FKK scene. The idea of being with 20/30 naked women, with me occasionally flashing my tool through the bathrobe. It was weirdly funny.

This week, I am. Going to be at a place hardly 20 km from one of the best FKK's but here I am setting up my plan with Miss J.

The fact that I don't need to look for a condom when I am ready to slide it in, the fact that I don't need to watch clock, the fact that I can fuck her bare as many times I can. Has knocked FKK out of my thoughts.

[The Cane]

And I don't think that having a premium membership would make any difference. In fact, I think that would be a huge waste of money since I would still be dealing with the exact same fakes, flakes, fraudsters, and scammers!

I meant to say that I don't think having a Diamond membership is worth it. I have a Premium membership, and now that I think about it, I'm not convinced that makes a difference either. I mean, at least for finding the best girls it doesn't. My Abby has just a basic membership. SA is like a box of chocolates. You never know what you're going to get!

[The Cane]

LOL. USA. No way. US is such a waste in this. And, the girls there tend to think so exorbitantly high of themselves. Steve and few other masters like you are able to play there but mere mortals like me don't stand a chance.

I'm hardly an SA master like Steve. Believe me. I've just been doing it for two months now remember? I've met three women in that time, and have started steady fucking one of them (turned down two others due to distance). Don't think that allows me to qualify as a "master". It's damn hard using the site in the USA. It's damn hard. One more month in my membership. And then I'm done! And I don't think that having a premium membership would make any difference. In fact, I think that would be a huge waste of money since I would still be dealing with the exact same fakes, flakes, fraudsters, and scammers!

[The Cane]

Do any of you do the platonic first meet? This girl said she only does platonic first meets so we met last week first. I had 2 more meetings for drinks last week, both went fine but I'd only consider one of the girls. I'm meeting another girl who seems promising for lunch on Thursday but after my experience I'm not as eager to keep trying.

I do platonic meets and greets. They are extremely important to me, because I know that I'm extremely picky. I know what look that I like, and I'm the type where I can only be sure by seeing her "up close and personal". I've found that too often a girl just doesn't look like her pics in real life. It's like the young college grad who I mentioned in my last monthly report. I was sexually attracted to her based on her pics. But when we met in person, although I found her to be kind of "cute", there was no sexual "thrill" there for me. So, we enjoyed a nice dinner and time together at the restaurant, but after that I was done. So yes, I do platonic meets and greets, but I will only do that once per girl. And after that, we're either fucking or we aren't. And, other than for food and drink, absolutely do not pay for meets and greets! Any girl demands that, just kick her greedy, scamming ass to the curb and keep it moving! Also, before I do a meet and greet, I make it clear that it's no obligation on anybody's part to take it any further. That applies to me just as much as it does the girl.

[Desin]

I had my first ppm date last night and it wasn't great. Went back to a hotel after dinner but the little guy wasn't cooperating. I partly blame myself since she was older (early 30's) than I was looking for so she was at least my age if not older. When the clothes came off I wasn't that attracted to her body which probably killed it. Our conversations were fine but there wasn't any sexual tension, probably because I'm so out of practice and didn't have much game to begin with. After this experience I'm wondering if this is for me given the cost. I talked to a 21 yo today who wouldn't give me a firm number but wanted 1 k or more. I'm not sure what else I'll find for 5-600.

Do any of you do the platonic first meet? This girl said she only does platonic first meets so we met last week first. I had 2 more meetings for drinks last week, both went fine but I'd only consider one of the girls. I'm meeting another girl who seems promising for lunch on Thursday but after my experience I'm not as eager to keep trying.

I'm amazed of the costs of this. It has to be because the girls are in the dominant position, catering hundreds or thousands of men per one girl. If I may suggest, depending on where you live, try to find out what is the social media platform young adults use apart from the regular Facebook, Instagram etc. If there is an anonymous way to communicate with others, the better. Then you can spend some time to learn the ropes, how are people trying to get laid in there, and start your own game: if you are willing to spend 500 for a girl, that is a lot of money for anyone non-pro. Even a girl who hasn't done it before, but doesn't shy away from sex, would consider it. Depending on your personality and looks (if they aren't repulsive) I'd expect you could get a pretty "girl next door", who wouldn't have any of the negative qualities of those pro's and semi-pro's. Normally student girls can have a meeting at half the price of a semi-pro / pro, but if they are offered the normal price, they'll be very keen to do what you wish for. Since you aren't that old, even a dinner might not be off the table. I go only for the sex. (and thus I don't have use for Seeking Arrangements, because of all the hassle).

[Gfefan]

LOL. USA. No way. US is such a waste in this. And, the girls there tend to think so exorbitantky high of themselves. Steve and few other masters like you are able to play there but mere mortals like me don't stand a chance.

My play area is Western Europe. Spain, Germany, Netherlands. There are scammers here (lot in France). There are "attitude" girls here. But with help from seniors like you / Steve, I have been able to unearth some gems. I guess being a nice gentleman goes a bit longer way here in Europe than in US.

I made the mistake of paying for 'meet and greet' once in France and learned my lesson. Completely cut it out.

I try to be nice, and the moment I sense a scam / attitude girl (aka pay for my time. I will meet you), I block them.

I once had this 9 model from Germany. She moved from 300 to 600 and then back to 500 in 24 hours of whatsapp chat. I point blank told her "listen, lets not waste each others time. If there are guys willing to pay you so much, I am happy for you. Leave me alone".

She said "Look at me. You think you will get a hot one like me? I said "what makes you think I am looking for hotness quotient? I am looking for attitude quotient. Hotness is bonus but you score zero on attitude. Goodbye". She was left stunned and speechless. I walked off. Period.

And what country? Or, did I miss that somewhere? I guess I did, but I don't think you're meeting all of these hotties in the USA are you? Especially not at those prices! I mean, I got damn lucky. When you communicate with a for real one around here, virtually everybody asks for something between $500 and $1,000 per meet, but are also usually willing to negotiate some. Then, you have those who think they're going to meet you and greet you and eat the food and down the drinks you pay for, and then get paid for it too, and I'm sure with no commitment whatsoever to fuck you. Those types need to go hang on a "regular" dating site then. Of course, they don't want to do that do they because they want somebody to pay them for going out and having an enjoyable time on somebody else's dime without having to put out. Grrrrr! A man wants some pussy, and she knows it! "Regular" dating. I'm never doing that again!

[BChizzle]

Steve, I have been dabbling with Facebook in Medellin for shits and giggles, and it seems like all the hotties have gone online in Medellin. FB is a good no cost alternative to seeking, but I just doubt that the quality is going to be the same. What you are saying is the women are ho like and you send them a price. There is nothing wrong with that if you just want to get some but I met seeking women time and again without a price.

I am really skeptical of the guys here who say that there is no one that hot on seeking there. Medellin was my #2 city, and I barebacked like crazy there. I tore it up and had woman after head turning woman. In Bogota, I was getting 2 dates in day and 3 in Medellin, and I last played there in April 2021. Al in all, I liked the women of Bogota more but Medellin had a slightly hotter portion of them.

From my POV, there is no comparison with what is on seeking and what is on Facebook. None.

BTW, you may want to PM Doncarlos in Medellin. He has a line on women that are up to my and his (and I think your) standards. Sure, there are some decent looking FB girls, but nothing and I mean nothing, like what I was seeing.

Your post about FB being no comparison to Seeking in Medellin got me wondering about whether I should stop accumulating FB girls and just use Seeking instead in Medellin. I used seeking in the US for a couple of years. I'm in one of the most expensive major cities in the US and it seems like a lot of really hot girls are asking for $1000+ nowadays. I was doing $400-$700 before and I thought that was a lot. Then I went to CDMX and got really hot very passionate girls for $150-$200 for a day or 5 hours. I wrote a report on it and a lot of people traded me Medellin FB contacts for my CDMX SB contacts. Got me started on a FB. $50 for a 2 hour date with them seemed like a deal. But is it worth it to pay I heard $100-$200 to actually date a girl in Medellin? Right now I'm thinking of trying both but just wanted to get an opinion of someone who has gone to Medellin.