Seeking Arrangements

[Gfefan]

Incidentally, I discovered this last week with my SB even before I read this.

We had some nuce teasing foreplay in a sauna (more later) and she was so wet that she wanted to move to the room saying "I want you inside me. RIGHT NOW" and we went to the room.

More FIV and DATY. She is super wet. I took my dick and just before sliding it in, I teased her a little bit. She threw her head back and started moaning. Stopped for a brief two seconds and she goes "that was aqesome. Keep doing that". I go back to rubbing her clit with my now full hard dick. In just about 10 seconds, she exploded. Legs shaking, body curling, orgasm. It was amazing.

I guess the first highlight was clit rubbing with dick. I'the never done this before but got to thinking that a dick makes an awfully good clit massager. So after some great FIV and fucking I was in the Steve position and pulled out and started using my dick to slide it up and down and around on her clit. She really liked this. I'the slip in for a few strokes and come out again and do dick clit massage and back in. Really recommend this. When doing her clit it feels great but a bit of a tease. So when you slip back in it feels wonderful. Same for her.

[Midwestern]

Fair warning that women want you to LISTEN to their problems but NOT try to solve them. Watch "It's not about the nail" on YouTube. So true! I have found this soooooo true with my 22-24 year old babies. They get super worked up and resentful when you present solutions. Just listen and say "oh that must be tough" etc. Haha women!

You just summarized the entire book, "Men are from Mars, Women are from Venus. " Many years ago, I read that book, and pretty much the main takeaway of the book's entire thesis can be summarized in your first sentence.

[AsianPursuits]

Has anyone been in contact with SA customer service? I made a ticket and it said 24-48 hours but it's been a week. Anyone who actually got a response?

I had an issue where I had accidentally created an account as a SB. I sent them a message and they switched the account to SD. Was all done within a day or so.

I had actually paid a subscription. I suspect they differentiate support calls to those that have active subscriptions and those on free accounts, if that helps.

[The Cane]

Fair warning that women want you to LISTEN to their problems but NOT try to solve them. Watch "It's not about the nail" on YouTube. So true! I have found this soooooo true with my 22-24 year old babies. They get super worked up and resentful when you present solutions. Just listen and say "oh that must be tough" etc. Haha women!

Yeah, yeah then baby spread them butt cheeks wide LOLOLOL!

[Ggekko2009]

Fair warning that women want you to LISTEN to their problems but NOT try to solve them. Watch "It's not about the nail" on YouTube. So true! I have found this soooooo true with my 22-24 year old babies. They get super worked up and resentful when you present solutions. Just listen and say "oh that must be tough" etc. Haha women!

So funny and yet so true. Wait till they start crying in front of you.

[AmericanOxygen]

Has anyone been in contact with SA customer service? I made a ticket and it said 24-48 hours but it's been a week. Anyone who actually got a response?

[Steve 9696]

Thank you for the thoughtful reply. I have one specific girl in my mind that I want to tame her expectations. My last few visits were 2 hours listening to her and resolving her life problems and 1 hour of great sex. But she still has financial needs so I haven't been back to see her. I guess I have nothing to lose as I won't continue with her current expectations.

Fair warning that women want you to LISTEN to their problems but NOT try to solve them. Watch "It's not about the nail" on YouTube. So true! I have found this soooooo true with my 22-24 year old babies. They get super worked up and resentful when you present solutions. Just listen and say "oh that must be tough" etc. Haha women!

[Elvis 2008]

I've seeing few gals here in my home town. I've found that their financial expectations decreases over time.

I started with $400-$500 per night but they now have a lower expectation.

Hopefully they feel it is less risky and I'm more reliable. OR I was always overpaying.

I prefer the first reason.

Do you guys find that the same girls will lower their financials needs as time passes.

AP, the hard part for women is seeing that you are real. There are so many scammers on the site looking for free sex. I do not know how they afford the fees. Maybe they steal passwords?

So yeah, once a girl knew I was safe, disease free, and had the ability to pay, I would make some excuse to pay less. I had so many women at one point that usually they would text me, and I would say yes but for a lower price. Many if not most of the women were broke and had no choice.

The women who come from money or have some socked away may say no, but I would say I was able to lower what I gave the women three out of four times.

And the ones who wanted the most $ were the ones I saw the least.

[AsianPursuits]

For the first night, I was pretty price insensitive, and that is because I love strange. But after seeing them at least a half dozen times, I was ready to move on most of the time. However, instead of disappearing on them or breaking up with them, I would just say that my financial situation became tight and would not be able to see them as much, or not be able to see them at all in the near future. It was not a bluff. I really was ready to walk away. But pretty much all of them reduced their ask. For example, two gals said give me what you can. Most gals said it was okay not to give them anything, but maybe help them later if they needed it. Some even said that I did not have to give them anything anymore. I guess they became attached to me and did not want the relationship to end. But a couple of these gals started looking for other SBs on the side. But the major downside was that these gals then started thinking that we were in a real relationship, since it was less transactional based, and that opens up another can of worms.

Thank you for the thoughtful reply. I have one specific girl in my mind that I want to tame her expectations. My last few visits were 2 hours listening to her and resolving her life problems and 1 hour of great sex. But she still has financial needs so I haven't been back to see her. I guess I have nothing to lose as I won't continue with her current expectations.

[Midwestern]

I've seeing few gals here in my home town. I've found that their financial expectations decreases over time.

I started with $400-$500 per night but they now have a lower expectation.

Hopefully they feel it is less risky and I'm more reliable. OR I was always overpaying.

I prefer the first reason.

Do you guys find that the same girls will lower their financials needs as time passes.

For the first night, I was pretty price insensitive, and that is because I love strange. But after seeing them at least a half dozen times, I was ready to move on most of the time. However, instead of disappearing on them or breaking up with them, I would just say that my financial situation became tight and would not be able to see them as much, or not be able to see them at all in the near future. It was not a bluff. I really was ready to walk away. But pretty much all of them reduced their ask. For example, two gals said give me what you can. Most gals said it was okay not to give them anything, but maybe help them later if they needed it. Some even said that I did not have to give them anything anymore. I guess they became attached to me and did not want the relationship to end. But a couple of these gals started looking for other SBs on the side. But the major downside was that these gals then started thinking that we were in a real relationship, since it was less transactional based, and that opens up another can of worms.

[AsianPursuits]

I've seeing few gals here in my home town. I've found that their financial expectations decreases over time.

I started with $400-$500 per night but they now have a lower expectation.

Hopefully they feel it is less risky and I'm more reliable. OR I was always overpaying.

I prefer the first reason.

Do you guys find that the same girls will lower their financials needs as time passes.

[Nounce]

When I used SA in the states....

In US, probably, men are targeted for marriage too. The first girl only asked for money based on her living standard, not how much the father makes. The second girl and third girl fell in love with the men and wanted marriage, not money.

The second girl was able to use her saving to start a successful business in her home town but was hit by Covid. She ended up going into prostitution to support her family and her sister who is in college. It's a long story.

[Elvis 2008]

I also met girls who didn't ask money and we spent good amount of time at nice restaurants but no sex too. Those are the ones very selective and / or looking for long term arrangements.

Girls who don't ask money upfront generally turned out to be better experience than the ones who ask money upfront. Also I paid more to the girls who didn't ask money upfront if their service is better or I liked them. If someone sets a $ upfront that is what they got.

It is funny how that works isn't it? The same thing always happens with me. I went for the sex sooner than you did in most cases, but the best women want to prove they are more than just a good time in bed.

[Elvis 2008]

While I was traveling in Asia I met a regular girl via wechat. She was in town visiting her father whom had a new wife. Some family issues but she seemed genuine girl. We chatted via wechat then met for a drink one evening. Didn't get drunk but held her hand walking her safely back to her hotel, then room. I wasn't prepared as I thought it was just a friendly chat. So, no condoms, she revealed a super hot body and a certain eagerness. So a few rounds later I left at dawn. We chatted more but our schedules didn't align again. A month later I got her message about being pregnant. I chatted a little but had to cut the communication. I had a burner wechat which was her only connection to me. Was it a scam or was it real? I will never know. Some days I have distant thoughts to try track her down but I have chosen not to pursue her. I cannot see any good coming from it.

You are right and are smart not to have reached out to her. My gut instinct is if you did not know her that well, she was probably running a scam. I think women who do this are like the biggest scum on earth. You probably gleaned a little more about her character that led you to cut her off. I think you were wise to trust your instincts.

[Midwestern]

I have seen two cases in the last few years. One is a working girl. The girl went back to her home town and only asked for US $ 350 / month for support. The kid's DNA matches the father's.

When I used SA in the states, I met this one gal that said that her friend used SA and got pregnant from her SD, and so now her friend was set for life because the SD pays for child support. That story scared the crap out of me of course. Made me wonder if some of my SBs at the time might intentionally try to get knocked up by me.

Last year I had a great arrangement with a gal, but she kept trying to get me to CIP. I then later found out that she was trying to get pregnant before her recently married younger sister. That scared me and I started paying attention to her p-calendar, but eventually I stopped seeing her.

But then I always think, "could they get my contact info if she went to the hotel and asked who registered the room on April 21 in room 252?
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Yeah, I worry about this too. I bet if she does get preggers, then maybe she can call the police to force the hotel to reveal the identity of the booked guest. I guess it would depend on the country and its privacy laws.

I guess the first highlight was clit rubbing with dick. I'the never done this before but got to thinking that a dick makes an awfully good clit massager.

Ha, another great FR! Thanks, Steve. Just wanted to add my experience with clit rubbing with dick. Last year, I did it to a gal in an MP. At first, she was scared that I was trying to have sex with her, but after some DATY, she gave in to the clit rubbing with my dick, and she was going crazy horny, and so I then slipped it in, and she went even more crazy horny and just let me bareback her in the shop. Yeah, pretty stupid, but my little head had the better of me that day.

More recently, with an incall pro, after she gave me a great BBBJ, she was ready to do the deed, but she was not wet yet, and so while she was on top, she started rubbing her clit on my dick to get wet and horny, but she got so horny that she started raw dogging me. Again, my little head allowed it, but when I turned her around for missionary, she came to her senses and forced us to use a cover, which I was pretty relieved about.