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  1. #5436
    Quote Originally Posted by Gfefan  [View Original Post]
    I recently had a 55 year old guy take my SB on a platonic dinner date and paid her 1 K. Apparently, he also filled up her gas tank and gave her a handbag.

    I know this because she told me before going on the date and filling me in details after.
    With all due respect, I don't know her or your relationship so the following is just a general FYI. On SB boards and forums, a story like this is one suggested tactic to get a guy to raise the PPM: tell him about another guy who "stepped up. " And if the guy doesn't volunteer that raise, she takes the off-ramp saying "I didn't like him so I won't see him again." Would she really turn down another thousand dollars plus extras because the 55-yo guy was showing her off to the waitress?

  2. #5435
    Quote Originally Posted by FilthyBeaver  [View Original Post]
    As a reminder I delete mine once my subscription expires and start anew when the itch needs to be scratched. There was an amazingly gorgeous girl who was the primary reason for my creating that particular account but she wouldn't give me the time of day..
    How did you see her profile if you'd deleted your account? Is it possible to browse seeking profiles without an active (unpaid) account? As in aside, ime seeking profiles with super hot photos are usually fake or scams of some sort

  3. #5434
    Met a girl once, never spoke of money. Conversation was interesting enough but I didn't feel a spark. Slipped 300 in her coat while went to the bathroom and basically pecked her on the cheek good night. Couple hours later she thanked me very much and told me to see her again when I'm in town. So much for my ability to read signals.

    Quote Originally Posted by Steve9696  [View Original Post]
    Yeah right now I scoff at these guys that pay for platonic. I don't know I would ever get there. But I can def visualize myself at 80 w a hot live in girlfriend and we don't ever have serious sex. Just watch her booping around in her bikini. Giving me the doe eyes at dinner. Sweet kisses cuddling and affection. Maybe a BJ a couple times a month. I'the be good. Happy to pay her and keep her happy for that.

  4. #5433

    Paid GF

    Yeah right now I scoff at these guys that pay for platonic. I don't know I would ever get there. But I can def visualize myself at 80 w a hot live in girlfriend and we don't ever have serious sex. Just watch her booping around in her bikini. Giving me the doe eyes at dinner. Sweet kisses cuddling and affection. Maybe a BJ a couple times a month. I'the be good. Happy to pay her and keep her happy for that.

  5. #5432
    Quote Originally Posted by Gfefan  [View Original Post]
    I think our community here is in the dark to a certain extent.

    I recently had a 55 year old guy take my SB on a platonic dinner date and paid her 1 K. Apparently, he also filled up her gas tank and gave her a handbag.

    I know this because she told me before going on the date and filling me in details after.

    I was expecting her to go "So, I think our deal of 300 for non-platonic ppm needs revisited" and I was fully prepared to walk off. Then, she went, "But that guy was disrespectful in how he spoke to me at dinner table. He was also showing me off to the waitress as if I am his trophy. I am glad I have someone like you who treats me with respect even when we have sex. I am not going to see that guy anymore".

    I breathed a sigh. This girl has a good head on her shoulders. Keeping her.
    Before she left the industry and found a conventional job that pays well (but has horrible work shifts), Ainara used to chat with me about getting elderly clients who "didn't hire her for sex, but just wanted to hang out with a beautiful girl" While she never got into too many details, I got the impression these guys were maybe 70+ or substantially older, and their "man parts" probably no longer functioned, maybe due to prostate cancer or something else that made sex not viable. What she didn't tell me is if these guys paid her the same price to spend time with her, that I paid her for a romp on the bed. I assume so, but I also recall a woman from Hawaii who used to advertise "cocktail rate" which she described as hanging out at a bar for drinks, was 1/4 the price of full service. I never paid the Hawaiian women for either, but I found her advertisement unusual.

    That's too bad about Ainara. While she didn't have the most beautiful face in the world, she had wicked sexual technique, a perfect height to weight ratio body, and an ability to connect with me that few women have rivaled, despite English being her second language. Then she goes off to a highly demanding medical job with long hours, right before Covid hits the world, and health care workers start pulling double shifts. Yet I haven't seen any indication that she's made an attempt to return. Oh well, life happens.

  6. #5431

    And there you have it

    A reliable, respectable SD is worth a thousand douche bags every day of the week. There isn't a woman on the planet that wants to be treated poorly. Your attitude and personality is #1, reliability is #2, resources is #3, appearance is somewhere below those.

    Douche bag guys are about as interesting as fat lipped bimbos with profiles full of pics from some hypocritical Arab country.

    I've never insisted on anything exclusive, I've wanted it one or twice but never said it. I want them to meet these loosers so I look that much better and appreciate me more. The fact of the matter is most guys that monger this way have way more game than some rich nerd with no social skills who's had his head buried in a book for30+ yrs. I'll take the chance / make that bet that I'm overall better than some other guy all day long.

    Quote Originally Posted by Gfefan  [View Original Post]
    I think our community here is in the dark to a certain extent.

    I recently had a 55 year old guy take my SB on a platonic dinner date and paid her 1 K. Apparently, he also filled up her gas tank and gave her a handbag.

    I know this because she told me before going on the date and filling me in details after.

    I was expecting her to go "So, I think our deal of 300 for non-platonic ppm needs revisited" and I was fully prepared to walk off. Then, she went, "But that guy was disrespectful in how he spoke to me at dinner table. He was also showing me off to the waitress as if I am his trophy. I am glad I have someone like you who treats me with respect even when we have sex. I am not going to see that guy anymore".

    I breathed a sigh. This girl has a good head on her shoulders. Keeping her.

  7. #5430
    Quote Originally Posted by Gfefan  [View Original Post]
    I think our community here is in the dark to a certain extent.

    I recently had a 55 year old guy take my SB on a platonic dinner date and paid her 1 K. Apparently, he also filled up her gas tank and gave her a handbag.

    I know this because she told me before going on the date and filling me in details after.

    I was expecting her to go "So, I think our deal of 300 for non-platonic ppm needs revisited" and I was fully prepared to walk off. Then, she went, "But that guy was disrespectful in how he spoke to me at dinner table. He was also showing me off to the waitress as if I am his trophy. I am glad I have someone like you who treats me with respect even when we have sex. I am not going to see that guy anymore".

    I breathed a sigh. This girl has a good head on her shoulders. Keeping her.
    I hear these stories as well. Maybe 5-10% are true, if that. Now, I believe guys promise the world on-line and never deliver. I think this is a bigger issue then the guys that actually spend this kind of money, for no sex.

  8. #5429

    We have no idea

    I think our community here is in the dark to a certain extent.

    I recently had a 55 year old guy take my SB on a platonic dinner date and paid her 1 K. Apparently, he also filled up her gas tank and gave her a handbag.

    I know this because she told me before going on the date and filling me in details after.

    I was expecting her to go "So, I think our deal of 300 for non-platonic ppm needs revisited" and I was fully prepared to walk off. Then, she went, "But that guy was disrespectful in how he spoke to me at dinner table. He was also showing me off to the waitress as if I am his trophy. I am glad I have someone like you who treats me with respect even when we have sex. I am not going to see that guy anymore".

    I breathed a sigh. This girl has a good head on her shoulders. Keeping her.

    Quote Originally Posted by AmericanPi  [View Original Post]
    Try as I might, I have yet to find this unicorn that is the man willing to pay a girl for a platonic sugar relationship.

    I'm not saying they don't exist. They must or these profiles wouldn't exist. Somebody must know somebody who knew somebody who knows somebody who knew somebody who once talked to somebody who had a sugar daddy that did that. But I can't imagine what dude gets into that and how shitty his life must be to even consider it.

  9. #5428
    Quote Originally Posted by Steve9696  [View Original Post]
    I've stumbled upon the fact that Jakarta seems to be loaded with low priced hotties in clubs like Classic. Like Bangkok used to be. Very active thread here. I hope to sample soon and will report back to my Seeking buds. Let me know if anyone gets there first!
    I was not in the game when I was in Jakarta, but when I was in Paraguay, there were so many abundant hot women that promoters would pay them to promote cereals ETC in the grocery store. Can you imagine that in the USA? A hot 16 year old standing in the cereal aisle being paid to just stand there and wear a t-shirt promoting a cereal?

    In the USA if you want help at a department store, a lot of times you have to jump on the counter and wave a red flag and yell. Okay, I am exaggerating slightly. Granted it was a while ago, but when I was in Indonesia, there were scores of hot women. If you were in the cologne department at a store, you could not look at anything without being swarmed with offers by beautiful women to help.

    Thing is Jakarta's the definition of third world shithole: crowded, hot, humid, and polluted. It was weird traveling from Singapore to Malaysia to Indonesia in that the amount of resources went up but the amount of wealth went down. I mentioned that to an English guy who lived in Asia for decades, and he said, "Yes, but the other thing is the wealth goes down where there are fewer Chinese", and this was right before China blew up.

    If I wanted to do mass fucking, I would suck it up and stay in Jakarta. But if I went the sugar baby route, I would find women in Jakarta and fly them to Bali. Still, people think that beautiful spiritual holy island is a wonderful place free of corruption, but as the author of Eat / PrayLove found, scamming in Indonesia and Bali is rampant.

    My favorite kind of women are those that can move their hips fast. When I think of those kinds of women, the two places you could always find them were Latin American and Polynesia / Hawaii. Thing is when I was in Bali, they had a group that did a song and dance Hello, and the women moved like the Hawaiians.

    Where I have found the best women is often off the beaten trail: Sao Paulo over Rio, Bogota over Medellin, and if I were hunting sugar babies in Asia, my first stop would not be somewhere in Thailand or the Philippines but Indonesia and Jakarta in particular. And part of that is less competition. Who the hell wants to go and stay in Jakarta?

    When I was in Colombia, another country where scamming is rampant, and was looking for women, I ran into a few women who went out of there way to show they were not scammers. I would think and bet that there are some women in Indonesia who would be like that too.

  10. #5427
    Interestingly, my last seeking account was the only account that I never made any meaningful connection or meet-up. As a reminder I delete mine once my subscription expires and start anew when the itch needs to be scratched. There was an amazingly gorgeous girl who was the primary reason for my creating that particular account but she wouldn't give me the time of day. No response, no FU, nothing. A couple weeks in she changed her profile to say something to the effect that she's only looking for a platonic relationship and anybody worth her time would understand. Just before I closed the account that absurd statement was gone.

    I'm guessing they get educated really quick and if they want the money they figure out how to rationalize it. If they don't, they delete their profiles and it's off to dating broke college guys.

    Quote Originally Posted by AmericanPi  [View Original Post]
    Try as I might, I have yet to find this unicorn that is the man willing to pay a girl for a platonic sugar relationship.

    I'm not saying they don't exist. They must or these profiles wouldn't exist. Somebody must know somebody who knew somebody who knows somebody who knew somebody who once talked to somebody who had a sugar daddy that did that. But I can't imagine what dude gets into that and how shitty his life must be to even consider it.

  11. #5426
    Quote Originally Posted by FilthyBeaver  [View Original Post]

    I've been doing seeking for about 4 years in a tier one coastal city so there's no shortage of hotties but I am seeing absurd profiles that say platonic and other nonsense of the like. I guess if you're 80 and can't get it up it may work for you but those girls ate just plain delusional.
    Try as I might, I have yet to find this unicorn that is the man willing to pay a girl for a platonic sugar relationship.

    I'm not saying they don't exist. They must or these profiles wouldn't exist. Somebody must know somebody who knew somebody who knows somebody who knew somebody who once talked to somebody who had a sugar daddy that did that. But I can't imagine what dude gets into that and how shitty his life must be to even consider it.

  12. #5425
    Quote Originally Posted by Midwestern  [View Original Post]
    I'm on a long trip in the Midwest (in a city like St. Louis, Denver, etc.). I decided to check out SA after many years of not being super active on it. Wow, the scene has changed a lot. Way, way fewer SBs, and way, way worse quality. There are more SBs in their 30's and 40's than in their 20's, and the fact that almost everyone lies about their age makes this even more astonishing. And the new wishlist thing is a turnoff.

    About nine years ago, I was super active on SA, and in about a dozen USA cities, ranging from large cities like San Francisco, Seattle, etc. , to smaller cities like Portland, Providence, Rochester, etc. , and it was great.

    So, has SA gone downhill in the USA, or does it just take more skill to navigate it?
    My personal experience attempting to use it in the USA resulted in total basura, beyond any measure. I had success using it in the Dominic Republic. I haven't landed in Brazil yet, but my communications with SA women from there are going smoothly thus far, unlike the US. So for my opinion, SA in the US is a complete waste of time and money. Maybe others feel differently. Possible exception for Puerto Rico, or other territorial locations. But for the 50 named states, no way. Just a bunch of morons with a grandiose sense of entitlement, who want to sell their onlyfans pages. Even if you do find a good looking girl who is willing to get her knees dirty, chances are she will demand a long term contract. Maybe it will work for you if you don't have a problem making a commitment. But on that note, if you are willing to make a long term commitment, might as well get married

  13. #5424

    Jakarta

    Quote Originally Posted by FilthyBeaver  [View Original Post]
    Inflation affects everything including pussy. I remember grandma saying she could get a whole bag of candy for 3 cents. Every place I've ever mongered has gone downhill over the years. Thailand used to be a mecca for what I'm looking for (what Thai guys want, tiny spinners with white skin). They are a dying breed as are the venues they're found at. Gentrification has all but decimated the soapy scene in Bangkok where a girl far away from family could feel safe in the house and everything online is so photoshopped that the only thing you can believe is the price.

    I've been doing seeking for about 4 years in a tier one coastal city so there's no shortage of hotties but I am seeing absurd profiles that say platonic and other nonsense of the like. I guess if you're 80 and can't get it up it may work for you but those girls ate just plain delusional.
    I've stumbled upon the fact that Jakarta seems to be loaded with low priced hotties in clubs like Classic. Like Bangkok used to be. Very active thread here. I hope to sample soon and will report back to my Seeking buds. Let me know if anyone gets there first!

  14. #5423
    Quote Originally Posted by Steve9696  [View Original Post]
    lUnder 21 can't drink at the restaurant and yes they get carded so I wrote that off.
    Had a date with an 18 year old a while back in the 909 (people in so-cal will know it). Interesting twist: I was surprised how much less expensive the bill was. Minor side benefit.

  15. #5422

    Funny

    Inflation affects everything including pussy. I remember grandma saying she could get a whole bag of candy for 3 cents. Every place I've ever mongered has gone downhill over the years. Thailand used to be a mecca for what I'm looking for (what Thai guys want, tiny spinners with white skin). They are a dying breed as are the venues they're found at. Gentrification has all but decimated the soapy scene in Bangkok where a girl far away from family could feel safe in the house and everything online is so photoshopped that the only thing you can believe is the price.

    I've been doing seeking for about 4 years in a tier one coastal city so there's no shortage of hotties but I am seeing absurd profiles that say platonic and other nonsense of the like. I guess if you're 80 and can't get it up it may work for you but those girls ate just plain delusional.

    Quote Originally Posted by Midwestern  [View Original Post]
    I'm on a long trip in the Midwest (in a city like St. Louis, Denver, etc.). I decided to check out SA after many years of not being super active on it. Wow, the scene has changed a lot. Way, way fewer SBs, and way, way worse quality. There are more SBs in their 30's and 40's than in their 20's, and the fact that almost everyone lies about their age makes this even more astonishing. And the new wishlist thing is a turnoff.

    About nine years ago, I was super active on SA, and in about a dozen USA cities, ranging from large cities like San Francisco, Seattle, etc. , to smaller cities like Portland, Providence, Rochester, etc. , and it was great.

    So, has SA gone downhill in the USA, or does it just take more skill to navigate it?

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