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12-28-21 22:04 #2560
Posts: 113My SA experience
I've been on SA for about a year and I must say, it has changed my life. I'm banging higher quantity and quality than I have at any other point in my adult life. I've been doing almost monthly trips to Tijuana and to Bogota. In a workweek, I try to bang 2-3 chicks per day and I've been doing a healthy mix of new girls and repeats with favorites. I've got my script down so I am upfront that I'm looking for "friends with benefits" and that I expect our relations to be natural. That selects out a decent percentage of girls but I've built a pretty extensive database of girls who are down.
That said, I'd like to ask for some guidance. I'd like to try another city (within a reasonable flight from the east coast of the US). I LOVE skinny girls (under 100 lbs) under 25 years old. What is a good, fertile place for me to hit?
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12-28-21 11:15 #2559
Posts: 10Originally Posted by EverythingBlue [View Original Post]
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12-28-21 06:44 #2558
Posts: 348And that's the cruxt if it, isn't it
So you've just summarized the moral of every monger's story. Doesn't matter how much due diligence you do, how much you or she lie, how much you pay, where you do it what language you speak, or where you're each from. If there's no chemistry or a questionable vibe when the clothes are off then you've probably wasted your time and money. And you never know for sure until then.
Interestingly enough, in my considerable mongering life, the best sex I've ever had was with girls that didn't speak my language and I did not or barely spoke theirs.
I think you're right about her being a pro too. The good ones are exceptionally good at small talk and sinking the hook but it's hard to fake real enjoyment; that's usually when you can make them.
I have the discussion one time about money at the meet & greet. I tell her that when we're together she should leave her purse somewhere obvious and sometime during the liaison I will sneak the money inside and we will never talk about it after that. They have all been fine with that but I give a pass at the first consummation. If they want to see kt, count it, etc I'm fine with it. She doesn't know me at that point and it's not an insult, she's just protecting her interests.
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12-28-21 04:42 #2557
Posts: 158Originally Posted by FilthyBeaver [View Original Post]
We had great chemistry over text, exchanged pics and she sent me the casual pic or video to keep my interest, nothing naked though so that gave me hope this wasn't a pro. Standard story about being a student, with an office job and looking to supplement income for rent and stuff. Was ok with meeting for dinner and drink first then maybe more. Kept in touch and agreed to a FaceTime call 2 days prior to my trip, it went fine and she looked good close to her pics minus make up which to me was a positive.
I arrived, and the next day we agreed to meet at a place near my hotel. I get there first and she shows up looking very attractive and met my expectations. Very casual restaurant but she was well dressed, beautiful black lady with a wonderful body and piercing eyes. Dinner went good, not a lot of physical contact but after a couple of drinks we get more relaxed and head to the hotel for another drink. We finally decide to head to my room, and once inside we finally kissed, and then she starts to bring up her gift before doing business she said. I get pro vibes. We keep going and get undressed, prior to her giving me a blowjob she mentions the gift again, so pour her a drink, and place the gift on the side, apparently that bothers her because it's something escorts get? So idk at this point LOL. But then she gets naked and she looks better than I expected so we proceed.
Her skills are good, too good for a non pro. She tastes wonderful, and gives amazing service. Now, I admit I've seen a lot of pro action in recent months, so I'm very in tune to pros, and this girl never seemed nervous or missed a beat during the action. So who knows, but I think she's been or still is a pro. Then after I finish we hang out and suddenly she wants me to call her an Uber to go home.
She messaged when she arrived home to wish me good night, and we spent about 5 hours together so I have no complaints. But, was the time invested prior worth the experience? I don't know. I've since fucked another 7 girls here, and honestly I'm not sure I'll remember this experience more than the others, but maybe I just had a bad date. The cost was only about 2 hours worth with a pro here in Montreal, and she looked about a solid 8.
Anyhow, if I was still on the site maybe I would try my luck again, but I'm not sure the juice is worth the squeeze, at least I can't say that yet. Or maybe I just fuck too many pros and can't appreciate a normal girl because of it LOL.
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12-28-21 03:47 #2556
Posts: 176Originally Posted by SamPeter71 [View Original Post]
Google Play payments via Android app: SA has an Android app that allows you to pay via Google Play. Additionally, there are usually Google Play gift cards available in most grocery stores that you can load your account with.
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12-28-21 03:15 #2555
Posts: 176Sa
Originally Posted by TheCane [View Original Post]
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12-28-21 02:15 #2554
Posts: 154Subscription using visa prepaid card
I am trying to use vanilla visa prepaid gift card to buy the SA subscription. Card keep getting declined. I don't want to use my credit card for privacy reasons.
Any suggested card to by the subscription and stay anonymous?
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12-27-21 23:20 #2553
Posts: 6422Diamond Membership
Originally Posted by FilthyBeaver [View Original Post]
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12-27-21 20:35 #2552
Posts: 2794Originally Posted by TheCane [View Original Post]
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12-27-21 16:17 #2551
Posts: 348Think again
You don't need to verify or do anything else. Just pay for diamond and you're now diamond. I would not have done that for much of the same reasons you stated but getting verified was not part of the process. If a girl believes the income and net worth someone states on that site they are dumber than a box or rocks and deserve to get taken advantage of. Same for the verification, it means nothing. Same as a guy thinking he's anything more than 1 in a long line of other guys she's talking to. It's part of the game and you're a fool to not know the rules or be willing to learn them very quickly.
Also, it's none of my business but if part of the reason you don't get diamond is financial this probably isn't the best way to go about getting girls. Depending on what you're looking for, you'll need money to play and sometimes a lot of it. If you go to AMPS or live near a place prostitution is legal and / or tolerated, add a zero to whatever you're paying and you'll be in the ballpark.
There are plenty of skanks and pros there but I can't comment on that because I wasn't looking for it. If you need some help; if they call you "baby" they are a prostitute. You're welcome.
Originally Posted by TheCane [View Original Post]
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12-27-21 08:18 #2550
Posts: 6422Thanks!
Thanks guys for all of the detailed and helpful responses! Anyway you cut it, this thing sounds like a lot of work. But few things worth having come easy do they? I thought about the Diamond membership, but I'm not comfortable providing my personal details for the verification process. Not to a dating site that could get hacked or something. Besides, other people present different views regarding upgrading to Diamond status, with even one SB saying that she sees it as a negative sign that a SD has become addicted to the site (shrug). I'm going to start out slow. Get a free membership and just see what's out there in my area (not interested in foreign girls for sugaring). If I see enough cuties to keep my attention, then I will upgrade to premium and go from there. I realize that I won't get as many responses as I would from having Diamond, but I don't want to be swamped with more inquiries than I have time for anyway. I think a couple of hours a day on there would be enough for me. I see that SA has video and audio chat now. Has anybody used those, and if so, how well did they work? I would think that if a girl is serious, once she's comfortable enough, then she should have no problem with a video chat, unless the person on the other end is hiding something. Thanks again for the tips!
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12-27-21 07:47 #2549
Posts: 348Concur
Those numbers pretty much match my experience in the one month I had patience for that shit. I'm simply not desperate / enjoy the hunt enough to spend that kind of time for am extended period of time. But as I said a few posts back, the work did pay off it was just a hell of a lot of work. I also want a quality "commitment" fake or not if she's a good liar I don't care but I don't see anyone only willing to meet for an hour or two. If they're not willing to at least consider spending the night I move on.
Afa chatting, you do what it takes. I chatted a girl up for a week probably 1-2 hrs / day. If there was no chemistry there's no way that would have been possible. When we met it was like we were old friends. The ones where we chat for am hour and they disappear are by far the most frustrating and a major turn off for me.
Originally Posted by Midwestern [View Original Post]
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12-27-21 06:38 #2548
Posts: 1202My SA stats
Yo Cane,
I know you were asking Steve, but I hope my stats on SA are another helpful data point.
When I was active on SA in the USA, I spent at least 20 hours each week on the website. No exaggeration. During a 20 month period, I probably contacted five to ten thousand gals, conversed with one or two thousand on the site or on text, and met about a hundred in-person. I eventually had relations with about two dozen SBs.
So, yeah, if one is looking for a quick hookup, then SA in the USA may be a waste of time. BUT, if you ENJOY the search, and are patient, then it can be fun and you can find some gems. For me, having one gem per month, despite over a hundred hours of work per month, was worth it, but at that time. I think I really enjoyed the novelty at the time. Would I do it again today? Not sure.
BTW, I agree with 99% of what Steve says and recommends. But one main difference between me and him, when it comes to SA, is that I don't text the girls that much. There were too many occasions where we had great chemistry on text, but not in person. And so, my strategy was to text a few times only and then suggest a meetup. Some of them wanted to keep texting, but I told them that chemistry is everything to me, and I can only tell if there's chemistry by meeting in-person. Of course, I lost a lot of girls' interests this way, but so be it.
Originally Posted by TheCane [View Original Post]
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12-27-21 00:45 #2547
Posts: 2794DF, we set up the apartment in Cartagena to my and her liking. I can tell she is happy to be back there as it is her original home and free from the cold of Bogota.
It is funny what is lacking in Colombia, sheets with Egyptian cotton for one, so I bought some and brought them down. I found a synthetic couch to make up for the lack of leather ones there. It is nice. I found a device so I can watch sports and my shows when I am there. I do not know why anyone has cable with this available: I even found a way to make real salsa. Colombian hot sauce is like ketchup.
Last trip was first time I got to know her daughter. ] It would not surprise me if she ends up 5 feet 10 like her mother. We are going to be fending off the men like crazy. When asked to do something, I think she said no more often than my son has in his first 22 years on this planet. I have always lived in a house of boys and how I handle things with her will be interesting. But I like her, and she likes me. For now. LOL.
I wrote this for the Tijuana section, but I think it is better that I post it here. I hope things work out with you and your lady.
If you are married or newly divorced, just getting new pussy is great. But having sex with a woman whose clothes are on a second after you climaxed running in shame towards the door? Ugh. I want a woman in my arms after sex happy that she fucked me.
After my engagement broke off, I dove into other foreign lands, upped my game, was doing the sugar baby thing and doing well. Life was great, and I was totally content in the SB world doubtful I would leave it.
It is when you are sure things will never change that they do. What do you do when a 10 type totally falls for you, fucks the shit out of you and asks for nothing? I get part of what Kool Beans is asking. Is this really real? After a while you accept it is, and ask what next? How do you go from SD or john to BF?
For the woman, it is easier. You show the guy your love by not asking him for much money. The guy has to understand the woman hates asking for it, and you are not paying for pussy but to make someone happy. If you pay too little, she may go outside for cash. Give her too much and she is spoiled. Did you notice no one here said that if KB's girl is looking for outside cash, he should give her more?
If you are an American guy, you are no doubt making more than she is, and if you want her available to you, you have to pay for her to not work. You do not have to, but you are not going to see her much if you do not. If she does take on work, she would have to understand (and this may be hard for her) that you count more than her job.
Then there is the family. Sure, they are close, but Nana Maria and Uncle Jose really need money help. You check it out and their needs are legit, and it is not so much, but you're questioning if they are pimping out your woman, and the answer is yeah, they kind of are. That is the price of a close family, and you want them on your side in a conflict. No one in your family will want anything from her which is unfair but that is how it works.
KB does not want to be played, and he is afraid he is missing something but most guys here are going to say he is a fool. What he needs to do is only talk to guys who have had this happen to them or better yet, talk to women. Women will size up his chick and situation better than we ever will.
So why do it? It is not sex. GF sex is way better than ho sex, but sugar baby and GF sex IMO are equal. The answer is your happiness is not based on pleasure from things like sex but other people. If you are with a woman who makes you happy, it is crazy to end it, and you should be with her.
I hear guys talk themselves out of the 10 types all the time. The Barbie doll wants a Ken doll they say. But the 10's themselves are never asked and so many do not want Ken.
Once I was with a courtesan, a true 10 in bed and with looks and got paid as such. We had finished our amazing session. She told me that she was going to go out on the town. I said she was going to see the hunky suave men she really wanted to. She had already been paid, had a waiting list weeks long, and she stopped right there, looked at me dead serious and said "When I go out and try to meet men, I am looking to meet men just like you. " What she said really changed my life. At first, it was just that I was in love with the idea not sure it was true. 10 years later I realized she was telling me the truth and I acted as such.
The surest way to have a 10 not fall for you is to believe it is impossible.
Happy holidays everyone.
My girl is amazing, but her family situation is complicated. Her family does not need money, in fact her dad is kind of famous in the Science Community. We will see what happens.
I which the best for you and your girlfriend. It is very sad that there is a handful of guys actively routing for guys to fail. KB is different story, I am out of that love story. All I can say is my girl is no drama at all, in fact she is the opposite. Time will tell. I think we will remain life long friends no matter what happens.
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12-27-21 00:38 #2546
Posts: 2794Sometimes you need to cut and run
I am on my 4th visit to CDMX since Thanksgiving. I love it here, stay in Polanco and you can walk everywhere another plus. The food, style, culture, service and the girls are amazing.
I am busy trying to learn as much about the city and meet as much girls as possible before I get busy at work again. I will be here ever 2nd weekend, but I will be working a lot then, but no complaints, just a totally cool place. Not cheap, but that keeps a lot of the S. Tourists out, so that is a huge advantage.
I have had way more cancelations and no-shows then MTY, but that is OK, I am learning from my mistakes.
I had a crazy experience today. I am scheduled to meet a girl at 3 pm, I text her a 2:45 she says that she is already at the restaurant and has already ordered food. Ok, weird, but not a big deal, but my guard definitely went up. I was a little mad, but it is the Holidays and I am in CDMX. I show up and she has been there for awhile, I ask her how long to response, at that point I almost walked off. I calm down, and order some food. Conversation was ok, but she was an artist, this is Huge Red Flag for me. Any way we finish lunch, I ask her about SA, but she blows off the question and says she like Older Guys. I suggested going for a walk and that point she say she wants to go home with me, I said ok, but then I thought twice and said, no. I offered to pay for the cab, but she refused. We said good bye, I am pretty sure she blocked me immediately and I did the same.
I am meeting a girl tonight for the 3rd time. College student and works in Law Firm. Beautiful, smart and fun, I love it here, a new home.