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11-07-21 02:50 #2387
Posts: 2672The Rolodex and Depth
Even tho I am always researching and always trying to find the next big thing, having the SA Rolodex is an amazing thing once you build it. I was just realizing that there are five cities I can travel to and have a girl ready to see me. No stress, no BS. Just tell her I will be in town and let's linkup.
Just happened on an upcoming trip. Struggling to find something new. Decided to just hit up my Rolodex and boom! Got a date with a hottie without breaking a sweat. If you invest you WILL be paid back.
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11-06-21 16:17 #2386
Posts: 1385I met a new girl yesterday. I had been talking to her for 5 to 6 weeks now. We were supposed to meet up for sex 3 weeks ago but she canceled at the last minute. This was our first meet. Met up for light brunch and went to a motel nearby, had sex, and left. Altogether, she stayed with me for 3 1/2 hours, 2 hours of which was making out and sex in the room. I gave her $300. She is white, 22, pretty face, very small tits but really tight bod, 5'4", blonde, smelled really nice, DATY was a delight and pussy was clean and fresh, even her ass was very clean; her BJ was atrocious, did not do BLS, kissing was light. She is a junior at the local Uni, switched majors to business. I realized she is in the class taught by one of my acquaintances but kept it to myself. She is an experienced sugar babe. Her first arrangement was at 19. She is somewhat estranged from her parents (divorced) and supporting herself totally including her tuition, working 25 hours a week in addition to college. I now read that most of the Sharks girls are demanding 150 E for an hour; on that basis, what I received from this girl on a per hour basis far exceeds what you get in Sharks now, and I did not have to spend thousands on airfare and hotels and taking weeks off.
I doubt I will repeat w / this girl too many times. May be a session here and there but she will not be my regular girl. For one thing, I am getting more and more drawn to my depressed girl. She feels very vulnerable; I am spending hours just chatting and texting with her, helping her get through the days. Depression is a terrible thing, sometimes she can't get out of the bed, sometimes she just sits there and cries for no reason, she eats nothing on some days. I need to stop myself from falling for her, which is an absurd situation for me w / wife and kids; however, I can't lie that this girl feels vulnerable and I am trying to help as much as I can. The time and budget allocation to her is leaving limited amount to others. Normally I am a cold calculating slimebag but she feels fragile and vulnerable and feeling a bit sad for her.
Also, with work from home still in place, it is not so easy to get away from home w / o rousing suspicion. Every outing away from home for a few hours is a precious opportunity.
Suddenly the seeking.com spigot has opened up like a fountain. When I re-subscribed a few months ago, it was a slow start. All of a sudden, in the last 2 weeks, I have offers of alone time from several very attractive girls in the 200-250 range even. With 300, in my area, you can pretty get any one you want now, it seems. These are white, slim girls w / pretty faces in the 18-25 age range. If I could find time, I would meet up with all of them. So, the main challenge right now is finding time away from home.
I wonder if the stopping of the benefits in early September had an impact. Feels like many girls are more broke now and more desperate. However jobs are plentiful; perhaps they got too lazy from receiving free federal benefits for 18 months.
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11-06-21 07:19 #2385
Posts: 1159Pessimist,
I have read those guys. Try not to bring them over. They are young and brag constantly about banging only 10's and that sort of male BS. They contribute nothing, are quite insecure, and probably can barely afford the hobby. I salute the people with the open mind. Sex in any form can be great. It is about experiencing emotions in various form, usually pleasurable. It really does not matter what someone else thinks if it is good for you. I have had one too many session with a good looking bomb to find her lying there with a bored look on her face. Nothing kills the mood faster. On the other hand, the girl that lets you control the timing and does many things with enthusiasm can be a stunning session. Nothing is as good as a gal that is revving you up because she wants a good fuck and enjoys getting you going. It's usually epic.
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11-06-21 07:04 #2384
Posts: 1159Originally Posted by Steve9696 [View Original Post]
That being said, you would think that some smart girls would figure out that sex can actually be good outside of marriage. We are constantly told that it is dangerous. Diseases! Murderers! Rapists! Bill Cosby! The exploitive modeling industry! That scares many from even considering sex outside of a relationship. Yes, it is driven by Puritans, but also other ethnic / religious groups. The Muslims are scared to death of their girls "dating. " Indians are slowing coming around on PDAs. I find the live streams and videos to be game changers. Things have come a long way. There is one problem. It's the athletes curse. When you are young, you tend to be dumb, but overconfident. Therefore, it is easy to make mistakes. You get used to the quick money and you start having a lifestyle that is way beyond your means. That leads to trouble. Never a good idea to be hooked on luxury you cannot afford.
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11-05-21 14:28 #2383
Posts: 1385Originally Posted by Midwestern [View Original Post]
If you have not watched Clickbait, I recommend it. You will know what I meant by getting scared.
I hope you bought EDU and other education stocks after the crash and were not caught in the downdraft. China is a tough story this year, as far as stocks go. If the Xi regime is not hell bent on destroying capitalism nor shareholder rights, Chinese stocks appear attractive. But no one knows how the CCP is thinking. Yes, the big name ecommerce stories like JD, BABA, Pinduoduo, and media names like Tencent and many others appear cheap relative to our Amazons and Google / Facebook, other.
The thing is that I don't live in SF or a place like that with a massive Asian population. So, the chance of them knowing each other may be high. Also, I get the feeling matters like this may be discussed more? In their community, perhaps I am being paranoid. * If I screw over a White girl, there is less chance of her tattletaling about me to every white person she knows, at least that is a breed I know.
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11-05-21 13:54 #2382
Posts: 2672Yep and Not Bad
Originally Posted by Midwestern [View Original Post]
I forgot which famous author said that Puritanism is that sneaking suspicion that somewhere someone may be having fun! LOL. So true!
Are some things bad behavior? Imo going bareback and then fucking your wife bareback is some not great behavior because you might spill over your private life into her life in a very bad way. But if she's stopped having sex, stopped being affectionate, let herself get fat and unattractive how exactly are you the bad guy? I have no guilt around "stepping out". I am not a bad guy. In fact just the opposite. But the wife often puts the husband in an impossible spot. Imo the guy is often not to blame here.
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11-05-21 09:07 #2381
Posts: 164Subscription Help
Hey all,
Been a silent reader of the forum Steve has been off great help on PM so shoutout for that. I am from India and increasingly facing difficulties to renew my subscription as Seeking is classified as a non trustworthy site with many of India's leading Banks and my payments are getting declined. I am an iOS person so can't use the Google pay tokens as well. Would someone kindly help or guide me as to how they have got this issue sorted? If someone can help me with the subscription happy to PayPal them the amount as well.
Cheers.
Ruch888.
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11-05-21 05:45 #2380
Posts: 1202Originally Posted by Steve9696 [View Original Post]
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11-05-21 05:37 #2379
Posts: 1202Originally Posted by Pessimist [View Original Post]
Whoa, did not know that the 22 year old has depression. But if it's clinical depression, then you might be okay. I have dated a few gals that suffered from depression. In general, it is just life that makes them depressed, not relationships or failed relationships. But anyway, LOL, what do I know, as I am not a psychiartrist. Anyway, do not let her drag you down, obviously.
I actually met two gals on SA that were bipolar. I have never met anyone who was bipolar before, but suddenly I dated two from SA. During their highs, they were so super high that it was embarrasing to be around them, and during their lows, it was a real downer. Plus, they often cancelled dates at the last minute because they were down. I remember going a short trip with one of them. We were having a blast. But then, I had to run a short errand, which took only an hour, and when I came back, she was in bed because she suddenly swung to the down side. She said she wanted to just lay in bed for the rest of the evening. This was around 7 pm! I had rented a Mercedes, booked us a 5 star hotel, and we were located right in the middle of a great night scene, but we end up watching TV in bed, not even going out for dinner. A totally wasted trip. Yes, I realize that I should feel sympathy for her, but like I said, I know that I am a bad person.
The funny thing about lesbians is that some of them love sucking cock and fucking. I know a WG who is a lesbian. She just loves sucking my cock, and she loves me fucking her, especially hard. I keep asking her if she is sure she is a lesbian, and she said she is definitely a lesbian. She says she finds men to be disgusting and ugly, but yet she loves cock. There are some girls that are bisexual, but I think they are really lesbians but love cock. I met of few of them too. I know this all sounds stupid. It sounds stupid to me too as I am typing this, LOL.
Yeah, you're smart to avoid the Chinese gal. Again, I hate to generalize, but the Chinese in the states tend to be pretty tight knit, and so there's a good chance that you guys know the same Chinese people.
Funny that you mentioned Evergrande, Colin Huang, etc. I am also an active investor and trader of Chinese stocks and other Asian stocks. I recently took a large position in EDU, thinking that it might double in a couple of years. I also have shares of PDD, which might be a mistake. I dumped my TCEHY, BABA, and JD. Their earnings calls are coming up, and we will soon see what they are made of. What Chinese stocks do you own?
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11-05-21 02:55 #2378
Posts: 300Originally Posted by Steve9696 [View Original Post]
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11-05-21 01:52 #2377
Posts: 2672The SA Unicorn
Went out with Uma recently snd I am struck by how unusual she is. Sure. She likes to drink and fuck like any good twenty something (she just turned 26) and she's beautiful. But damn if she isn't smart as fuck. She's studying to be a doctor no lie. And you can just tell by the conversation. She is a super smart hot and confident black woman. It's really something to be with her.
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11-04-21 15:22 #2376
Posts: 1385Originally Posted by Midwestern [View Original Post]
[Deleted by Admin]. The reality is that I could easily lie; I provide honest disclosures because this is an anonymous site and I don't like to lie about every small detail; it is bad enough that I am lying to my spouse which is the worst lie of all. Anyway, I think the folks on SA thread appear to be less judgmental and more sensible, so thank you for starting it.
As for your thoughts, I agree with everything you said. The first girl has depression issues, has been struggling with it for a long time. When she was on the site for nearly 4 years, at first she was just 18+, I felt ashamed to be hitting on such a young girl (I don't feel the same guilt fucking a 18 year old in the FKKs, not sure why this dichotomy in my mind). But she never felt me coming too hard at her. She would pop in every few weeks, sometimes months would pass by before she would come on the site, and the conversation was casual and brief. She opened up a bit more in the recent months, although her mental health issues have intensified. This does worry me. I need to keep this at arm's length because the danger is that this girl may go into deep blues if her heart is broken and I hope she does not develop attachments (she knows I am married). I was watching Click Bait on NFLX and suddenly I got scared in one of those middle episodes (the end clarifies it, so I was less scared, LOL). But yes, not too many SA girls are like this, most are more business like.
I think the lesbian 3 some was a one off. First the distance is too great. Secondly, they are in a real marriage. As Seinfeld found out, it is not easy to convert one from their team. They chose their team already LOL. I think they were curious, gave it a shot, didn't feel they were super thrilled to change their team. I am not a French lover, for god's sake, not that good. Anyway, it was interesting because it was w / a real couple. The 3 somes in FKKs are obviously mechanical; I never pay for them to do a lesbi show; pay them just to please me.
The Chinese woman keeps pestering me for my pics. She can't sleep I guess; every night, at 1 AM or 1:30 AM I have a "sweet dreams" message on my Whataspp and I am sound asleep by then. I started telling her that I am too old, etc but she seems to think I am some kinda mysterious guy now. This is so fucking weird because if I didn't have this suspicion that she may know my colleagues, I would be running to her as quickly as possible. Now, I will have to break this connection soon; it would be cruel to waste her time like this. She hasn't come out and asked me to meet for a date yet but she did ask "what are your plans tonight" "or the weather is lovely today, going out?" or asked about some local nice restaurants etc. It is becoming tough to fend her off with my lame stories.
She may be marriage minded. She asked me a couple of times if I am indeed American. I have some knowledge of Chinese businesses (we invest in Chinese stocks and other Asian stocks), and perhaps she had a suspicion I may be Chinese because she was surprised I knew about Evergrande problems or know of Colin Huang and Zhang Yiming etc. I am like you, hate being racist, but the question "are you American" implies she wans a marriage and eventually a greencard? I can't be in this situation. Too crazy for me.Last edited by Admin3; 11-06-21 at 14:25.
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11-04-21 04:01 #2375
Posts: 1202My perfect arrangement
I met her about 4 or 5 years ago. She is in her mid 40's! She's been married for about 25 years (yep, she got married when she was 20, and has a daughter that already graduated from college). She loves her husband. In fact, today, he has a day off, and so she took the day off too, to spend the day with him. But he has not kissed her in over a decade, she told me. And the last time she had sex, before me, was almost 10 years ago, and that was also an affair. So when we hooked up, I did not have to pay her a cent. She was just in it for the affection. She is hungry for affection. And so she just loves me fucking her, and she usually wants to do it longer than me.
But I now call this an arrangement rather than affair because in the past year, I started giving her money. She's from a rural part of China. And the pandemic lockdown nearly ruined their finances. They almost lost their home because they could barely pay their mortgage.
But I call it a great arrangement not just because of the great sex, but because we have our routine down pat. We meet, we shower, we fuck for an hour or two, and then we shower again and then we go our separate ways. We do not even talk, because I cannot speak Chinese. She never hassles me about anything. And, maybe best of all, she has no interest in wanting anything else other than what we already have. She does not want me texting her a lot, and she is totally about being discreet.
Lately, I have been seeing her about once per week. Every once in a while, I find a new great arrangement with a new person and I do not see SM for a while, but when those new arrangements eventually fall apart, I always go back to SM.
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11-04-21 03:40 #2374
Posts: 1202Awesome report Pessimist
Why would any of us be offended by your report? It was awesome, and just as important, it was honest. Please keep reporting. I enjoyed reading your highlights.
Hope you do not mind some of my thoughts on your gals. I just like to join the conversation.
That is awesome that the 22 year old is going super well. Her specs (height and weight) sound right up my alley. I bet she is really beautful especially when she is not wearing makeup. But I think you got lucky with this one. For me, I stopped seeing anyone under 24 years old. I know others will bash on me for this. But I do not even like WGs that are under 24. Almost all of them treat me like the old guy they have to see every once in a while. I hate that feeling. And so, if you got one that is into you, then you are lucky and she is a keeper.
As for threesomes, those can be so hit or miss. Steve recently had an epic threesome. Sounds like you did too. I've only had one really good experience with it. Most of my other experiences with it has been so-so, and so now I do not do them anymore.
Finally, regarding the Chinese gal, there's a good chance that she wants to get married. I hate to generalize, or even sound slightly racist, but almost all Chinese women are strongly marriage minded.
Originally Posted by Pessimist [View Original Post]
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11-03-21 17:21 #2373
Posts: 1258A must read
Pitfalls in the game.
http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/...651&viewfull=1#post2618651.