Seeking Arrangements

[Oneminuteboy]

Yeah I asked Sue to lick and suck my balls early on she's fairly new to this and she said "if you shave your balls". I've never taken the big plunge but did electric razor them fairly close and she has been sucking them sooooo. Maybe.

Question is how do you do it? My electric nicks them if I go right to skin. Been afraid of the blade. Thought about Nair but never took the plunge. What do you guys do to go clean shaven?

I use Gillette Venus. If there is a Bush I trim it down before using it.

Usually do this at least a day before I'm expecting to have sex.

[Steve 9696]

About a year ago, I decided to completely shave my cock. Now it is totally hairless. I have noticed that I am getting longer BJs and more women are willing to bareback me. Do you guys think there is a causal effect, or this is just a spurious correlation?

Yeah I asked Sue to lick and suck my balls early on — she's fairly new to this — and she said "if you shave your balls". I've never taken the big plunge but did electric razor them fairly close and she has been sucking them sooooo. Maybe.

Question is how do you do it? My electric nicks them if I go right to skin. Been afraid of the blade. Thought about Nair but never took the plunge. What do you guys do to go clean shaven?

[LgOver]

I have dealt with SA pre COVID and looked normal with good experiences but my recent experiences in California and Florida suggests the ads are going through some filter and is not 1-1 independent.

Sort of through escort agency kind or filtered by SA itself. SA merged with a dating agency early this year.

Is it rigged?

They are also pushing this premium, diamond and other memberships.

Is the site be fished by pro-agencies to catch the big good fish or through some big brother or most ads are spams.

They need to institute more rules for female ads to make sure they are genuine.

They have HQ. In Las Vegas, Ukraine and Singapore so that they can't be busted easily. In liberal places.

Something is fishy.

Should SA be more accountable to the sucker daddies?

[Akibono]

About a year ago, I decided to completely shave my cock. Now it is totally hairless. I have noticed that I am getting longer BJs and more women are willing to bareback me. Do you guys think there is a causal effect, or this is just a spurious correlation?

I consider shaving or at least trimming to be good hygiene. Many girls complain about hair and body odor. I always use some high end fragrances or at least some body spray. You definitely get better service. It shows you care and are classy.

[Midwestern]

About a year ago, I decided to completely shave my cock. Now it is totally hairless. I have noticed that I am getting longer BJs and more women are willing to bareback me. Do you guys think there is a causal effect, or this is just a spurious correlation?

[TheManager]

First off thanks Steve et al for the very informative primer on SA, field reports, analysis and data.

Your post is a bit odd. You quote me twice, then address Steve and start talking about race / black women. I suspect you've quoted the wrong posts.

I know the OKC data you are referring to. I used to have a very sweet time on the site when I lived in NYC post-Lehman. I also know that particular data is over a decade old, and not representative of Europe where I now reside.

Overall I believe your overly data based approach is not doing you any favors in actually getting your dick wet. I know because I used to try to explain everything with numbers myself. Now I know that was a young version of me trying to use a system I could control (math / science) to gain access to one I at the time couldn't control (hot women).

[CarloRogue]

Hello gentlemen,

Quick poll of the group to see who has recommendations for travel destinations over new year's eve this year. I'm looking for someplace warm, relatively immune to pandemic lockdowns, cultural (if possible), and with good food (and of course, I have a bit of a sweet tooth to go with it all). Would love to hear the collective wisdom of my kindred spirits and fellow travelers.

[Steve 9696]

Has anybody used SA in Vegas? I'm going next week and got a couple of babies who want to meet just by looking at their profiles, then they messaged me. They don't look to be obvious pros.

Yes I've had three babies in Vegas. Two great ones and the famous Jesse who said "I can't have sex with a guy I just met" and after some amazing charm we were having sex twenty minutes later. But yeah it's not all pros. All three were great girls. I repeated with both Alexa and Krystal and flew Alexa to Miami. So some real diamonds.

That said most who message you are not the ones you are after. Of course u can engage in small talk and it should separate them out quickly. A pro is not gonna chat for long nor tolerate a long time before U visit.

Happy to render an opinion if you want to message me their screen names.

[AmorPorFavor]

Has anybody used SA in Vegas? I'm going next week and got a couple of babies who want to meet just by looking at their profiles, then they messaged me. They don't look to be obvious pros.

[DramaFree11]

First off thanks Steve et al for the very informative primer on SA, field reports, analysis and data.

I do believe some data points could be mis-interpreted:

1.) Cost: SB being 2-3 x more expensive (less expensive) v. Escorts (or vice-versa) is totally subjective. Total sunk costs (dinner, drinks, prospecting $/#HR opportunity cost, etc.) are totally different v, tapping a button and opening a door.

2.) Demographics: yours skew (unsurprisingly) toward the response rates of Women's race on dating site. Black women receive the least contacts and respond the most; Latina, Asian, ME same and White women receive the most responses and respond to least. White women are only 13% of your inventory. OKC compiled actuarial data that supports above and I have seen it across every dating site over a decade.

3.) Ratings & Race: Comparing 7-9 minority female to 7-9 White is apples and oranges & massively subjective. Not knocking personal preferences or racist. Just what I see in society and behavior of high status Black men who upgrade to White GFs / wives as soon as they have $ (athletes, actors, musicians, etc). The number of White women on SA seemed very low the one time I did the free membership.

4.) Sleepover: I would venture to say a "sleepover" is not valued by majority of Men be / see marriage, logistics, privacy, safety, security. In the immortal testimony of Charlie Sheen to a Beverly Hills Judge: "I don't pay them for sex. I pay them to leave."

5.) Value: the "SB for $4-500 for 4-5 hours" balloon into a huge number once its fully loaded (250 dinner / drinks, etc). I'm assuming the 20+ successful SB entailed 2. 5 visits (1-10 visit range). Back of the envelope: $750 * 2.5 * 20 = $37,500 and a 5% loss at $2,500 (5-visit loss-rate: no show, no chemistry, no sex, still pay, scammed or lose hotel / dinner / logistics / CC refund denial $).

Sorry, you can not put a value on a great evening with a hot chick! Now when it get's be crazy money then obviously no!

There was a guy bragging about spending a lot of money on one girl in Kiev, double-triple market value, now that is crazy.

[DramaFree11]

If this was in the states, no way I would have sex with a high girl. Too easy to be accused of supplying the drugs or rape. The only exception is cannabis. Just my opinion. Just not worth the risk. Not going to jail or be bankrupt by an aggressive the.

Great advice! I have walked on a date in the state, when she was High. That was one crazy night. I paid my bill and took off running and yes, I was worried about the consequences. I would never do have the things I do in Mexico or Moscow in the states. Girls are flat out crazy in the states and mix in drugs it is accident waiting to happen. Thanks again!

[KaveMan]

As you noted that's an American phenomena. It's rather odd actually as I've found it to be the opposite just about everywhere else in the world.

As you noted that's an American phenomena. It's rather odd actually as I've found it to be the opposite just about everywhere else in the world.

First off thanks Steve et al for the very informative primer on SA, field reports, analysis and data.

I do believe some data points could be mis-interpreted:

1.) Cost: SB being 2-3 x more expensive (less expensive) v. Escorts (or vice-versa) is totally subjective. Total sunk costs (dinner, drinks, prospecting $/#HR opportunity cost, etc.) are totally different v, tapping a button and opening a door.

2.) Demographics: yours skew (unsurprisingly) toward the response rates of Women's race on dating site. Black women receive the least contacts and respond the most; Latina, Asian, ME same and White women receive the most responses and respond to least. White women are only 13% of your inventory. OKC compiled actuarial data that supports above and I have seen it across every dating site over a decade.

3.) Ratings & Race: Comparing 7-9 minority female to 7-9 White is apples and oranges & massively subjective. Not knocking personal preferences or racist. Just what I see in society and behavior of high status Black men who upgrade to White GFs / wives as soon as they have $ (athletes, actors, musicians, etc). The number of White women on SA seemed very low the one time I did the free membership.

4.) Sleepover: I would venture to say a "sleepover" is not valued by majority of Men be / see marriage, logistics, privacy, safety, security. In the immortal testimony of Charlie Sheen to a Beverly Hills Judge: "I don't pay them for sex. I pay them to leave."

5.) Value: the "SB for $4-500 for 4-5 hours" balloon into a huge number once its fully loaded (250 dinner / drinks, etc). I'm assuming the 20+ successful SB entailed 2. 5 visits (1-10 visit range). Back of the envelope: $750 * 2.5 * 20 = $37,500 and a 5% loss at $2,500 (5-visit loss-rate: no show, no chemistry, no sex, still pay, scammed or lose hotel / dinner / logistics / CC refund denial $).

6.) $40 K seems like a big nut for 7's minority chicks and random 9 white chick. You could get Twenty (20) $2,000 9-10 escorts (with Titles (beauty Pageant), Fame (porn star, be-model, be-actress), Pristine near virgin 18 yo or 11 level Minority escort for that price.

7.) Sense of Occasion / Special event Magic: I totally get the value of GFE and the 4-5 hrs that goes with SB. Having said that paying 45 minutes for a $750-2000 escort is NOT a 44 minute event. I have hired them in Beverly Hills, SoHo and London; each stretches into a full event. There is the prep & anticipation of them coming over; there is savoring 5 star room service or grilling a steak on your patio or top-shelf drink / cigar knowing in 1 HR you will fuck a 10; there is the entry and being blown away by her hair, dress, perfume; there is her using the bathroom or shower to prep; there is the official clock start; and then the full 45 minutes of banging the living shit out of her -- Not nice careful fuck, this is a civilian college girl, I don't want to be arrested or sued. There is the "after-fuck" where she says "OK if have a smoke" or "Wow can we walk around the pool" or "can I shower again before my next appointment; join me" even the rare "I need another drink; do you have any food". I have never had one at 46 minute reach for a wet-wipe and leave in 30 seconds. Then there is the post-fuck glow of your life; taking a hygienic shower, having another drink and surveying the grandeur of your conquest. All-in this would easily eat up 3 hours and sometimes more and would be plenty for me. I will never forget fucking a 10 escort over the railing of a Beverly Hills house I rented with pool lit up and she coming while the sprinklers came on and shot water up palm fronds! Priceless.

Not knocking SA. It obviously works for you, you have a very successful system, and its fits your lifestyle perfectly during a global pussy drought.

Nevertheless, being fully transparent I think SA skews towards minority, and market has cleared a price $400 equivalent to its value v. Escorts.

Cheers.

[Steve 9696]

Recent poster mentioned minorities and college students on SA so I did a little inventory on my own experience. Let me say first that I literally cannot stand pasty white girls and generally steer clear of white girls in general (unless they tend towards that raven haired beauty side of things like some Romanian girls). So mine is a biased take. This is SA only, about 80% US, and doesn't include my life with the pros. I have had some amazing mixes like Black Phillipina Italian (wow!) Black Ukrainian, Korean Viet Mexican, and more. I put girls like that in the "closest" bin.

Blackish 8.

Latina 11.

Asian 4.

White 4.

Middle Eastern 2.

Of late my last four great SBs (3 active) have been black. Not sure what's up with that or just a coincidence. And here are the occupations: College student, Waitress, Stripper, Cust Service, Yoga Instructor, Office Manager, Receptionist, Care Giver, Maid. The college student persona is relatively rare. Only 3 of 28. And as previously mentioned 22-24 is the magic age for me. Almost all my success is in this age range. And if they have a subtle nose ring/stud that is almost always a tell and we are gonna be a match. LOL.

HBU?

[DramaFree11]

Do you use SA in Moscow and Kiev? In my opinion, Moscow sucks, St. Pete beats Moscow, and any 2nd tier city in Russia beats both. I haven't mongered in Ukraine, but heard the talent is even better, so is the price point.

Would love to read your Mosco

or Kiev reports. When in Russia, I use Tinder exclusively, but I'm fluent in Russian, so have an advantage.

Sorry, I think we have completely different tastes. Kiev really sucks and is over rated. St. Pet. Was OK, Moscow was incredible.

Obviously you are doing something wrong. You need to reevaluate what you are doing and find a place that makes you happy. Good luck, you can read my reports.

[Akibono]

Arrive a 4 pm, I left work early. I meet a new girl. She is high as kite. Go up to the room and have sex immediately. When she sobered up she was real nice and pretty hot.

2nd meeting ends up having to work late, I was a little upset up about this, but it happen.

I meet one of my regulars at S. Prime. She looks amazing. Drinks and food was great, so much fun, but it gets much better. We get back to the room and we had sex most of the night. In the middle of the night she gets on top of me and off goes the the condom, awesome.

To all the haters, you can not put a price tag on this. She thanked me and said they had a great night. I gave her $200 and at the restaurant, I spent $150.

Moscow / Mexico Rock. Kiev / MDE suck! Censorship on a sex page, because someone does not like you opinion is even worse.

If this was in the states, no way I would have sex with a high girl. Too easy to be accused of supplying the drugs or rape. The only exception is cannabis. Just my opinion. Just not worth the risk. Not going to jail or be bankrupt by an aggressive the.