Seeking Arrangements

[Steve 9696]

So I have my local girl Sue who is sweet and goofy and barebacked me on our most recent date. But she's fat and pokes me for money, so I am always on the prowl for something better. Usually leads no where, but out of the blue I hit a home run.

Struck up a conversation with a girl with a hot chest, unknown total bod, and a pretty plain Jane face. But she's fun to chat with and quick to meetup. Says she's a medical student. Of course I think this is BS but turns out to be totally true.

During chat she's pretty darn straightforward as to why we are here. Like asking if we are going to my place or a hotel. Hahaha. And then on the way to the date she says I should bring my own condoms case hers don't fit. LOL. Ok not much pretense here.

So she shows up a bit late but gentleman that I am I have a drink waiting and damn she's MUCH prettier than her pics. Beautiful smile and dressed quite slutty. Dinner is actually amazing. She is a great conversationalist and clearly well educated. Her father is a doctor and she's lived in London, the Caribbean and Hawaii. At 25 you would think this is BS but every word is true and the pics to prove it (after sex stay tuned!)

After dinner we walk to the convenience store and get some Palomas in cans and a Juul for her. And rock on to the room. Like this girls style. Because she sits in the bed and gives me the come hither look. I join on the bed and am about to kiss her when she hikes up her leather skirt and has no panties on and a beautiful pussy on display. So I dive in and start working that some. Then some kissing. I get my pants off and she is on her knees doggie style on the bed and starts a great BJ -me standing. Very nice. I work her pussy from behind some by hand. It's nice but not really wet yet.

Before long she turns around doggie style and is clearly offering bareback despite her prior condom comment! I say baby you want me to get a condom and she says up to you. Just don't come inside me. OK babe I am a man of my word!

She's really not that wet on her pussy lips so I say let me work you some more first babe and she rolls on her back. I do some pretty credible DATY and she says "I like fingers too!" So I work in one and then two and give her a pretty good finger fuck working clit with thumb. Ok we wet now!

Fucking in my fave position FOREVER including bend over kissing while pumping. So fine. Then a drinks break. Then I Lay on my back thinking she will finish by mouth but nope she mounts up RCG and rides like a demon. At one point I have to pull out so as to not cum. Then back inside for some more. And damn prob best RCG I've ever had. I don't want to really cum by hand so i let it build for a while then put her on BJ. I musta backed quite a ways from the edge because it takes a lotta BJ but she stays at it with some hand on balls and I shoot a mega load. She starts to take it all but I guess it's too much and she runs to the bathroom to spit saying she didn't expect so much.

Some nice but somewhat perfunctory cuddles and pics surfing after and a parting kiss. She's not a super affectionate cuddly girl but she's smart as fuck, hot, and loves to fuck bareback. Sounds like a keeper to me! We def gonna repeat.

P.S. Damn the guy advising against bareback has fucked three different girls bareback this month! WTF happened to that dude? LOL.

[Globo]

I had cancelled the automatic renewal of my Premium membership (mistake? A couple of day ago, the membership ended and I then tried to renew it via Google subcriptions, which seemed to went fine. BUT (my membership is still on Standard! I have tried to contact Seeking, but no replies! Anyone having any idea?

Lately, it is not possible to extend using credit card, I have used that method earlier without problems.

In connection with this, I have a problem to continue an ongoing conversation with a girl. Someone having Premium that can help me out?

Sent you a private message, hope I can help.

[TheManager]

I had cancelled the automatic renewal of my Premium membership (mistake? A couple of day ago, the membership ended and I then tried to renew it via Google subcriptions, which seemed to went fine. BUT (my membership is still on Standard! I have tried to contact Seeking, but no replies! Anyone having any idea?

Lately, it is not possible to extend using credit card, I have used that method earlier without problems.

In connection with this, I have a problem to continue an ongoing conversation with a girl. Someone having Premium that can help me out?

Some Swedish banks and card issuers have SA blocked for purchases. Nordea should be fine but SEB has them blacklisted. I tried buying a subscription once with Eurobonus Mastercard which resulted in the card being temporarily blocked.

[Blue Swede]

I had cancelled the automatic renewal of my Premium membership (mistake? A couple of day ago, the membership ended and I then tried to renew it via Google subcriptions, which seemed to went fine. BUT (my membership is still on Standard! I have tried to contact Seeking, but no replies! Anyone having any idea?

Lately, it is not possible to extend using credit card, I have used that method earlier without problems.

In connection with this, I have a problem to continue an ongoing conversation with a girl. Someone having Premium that can help me out?

[TheManager]

As I said earlier, stop paying and see how long any of these "relationships" last.

I've transitioned 3 SBs into regular girlfriends. My longest is 18 months.

You are telling us something about yourself, and your (in) ability to keep women.

[Steve 9696]

Swinging never occurred to me. Did not know that was still alive and well. I wonder how one gets into the scene. How did Kayla find out about it? Also, do you think it would be okay to get contacts while you are there? Will it be free to attend? Will some gals charge per hookup? I am intrigued. Cannot wait for your report about it.

I don't know how she found the scene. I assumed her prior SD but could have been a hundred other ways for a 23 year old hottie. It's funny because it's completely above board because it doesn't touch any of the laws. It's a BYOB membership club (they used to do this in Texas to skirt drinking laws) and they don't serve alcohol but have bar tenders to mix what you bring.

They have couples prices and single lady and single guy prices. For example couples have a $60 a month membership and a per visit fee of $50-100 depending on day of week. It's all well constructed and professional. The "membership club" seems the key to the whole thing. Of course you can become a member day of visit.

Think going as a couple is a totally different thing. Apparently the singles section can be like a bunch of flies around a honey pot. Course the flies are jacking their dicks. LOL.

[Akibono]

Swinging never occurred to me. Did not know that was still alive and well. I wonder how one gets into the scene. How did Kayla find out about it? Also, do you think it would be okay to get contacts while you are there? Will it be free to attend? Will some gals charge per hookup? I am intrigued. Cannot wait for your report about it.

Just like the sugar scene, there are rules to learn. Think hedonism to excess. It is guys that like variety and strange. It is girls with more libido than their husbands or boyfriends can handle. It is couples indulging their fantasies. Unlike the EU, there are no hookers and very few single women. There is usually a cover charge for the host and to weed out the undesirable. Exchanging contact info is part of the purpose. The scene is for meeting like minded people into sex. Voyeurism an exhibitionism is more common than swapping. A gangbang is not unusual.

[Akibono]

Wow. I guess I shouldn't be surprised to find a senior ISG member who knows this scene but I am stunned this scene exists. We are def going on a no single guys night. But Kayla is legit finest overall body I've ever been with and a super pretty face. She warned me all the guys will be eye fucking her and I'm ok w that.

Our plan at this point is to stay one on one (this is what Valentina and I did). I don't think I'the be averse to a swap with a hot couple but we will see esp since only half our couple is hot. LOL. Kayla is bi so no issue if she wants to make out a girl or eat pussy while I pound her. I'm truly excited and was already excited!

If you bring your own gal and she is hot, you will not have problems with other couples. They are there for the experience and money is never mentioned. Generally, the girls decide who to go with and what they will do. So, if you find a bi your girl will be in heaven. If the man likes your girl, he will encourage her to swap to get access to your girl. Having a hot girl is the key. It is ok for couples that like each other to exchange information for meetings outside the clubs for more privacy. In general, it is ok to talk with other couple, but no to annoy others. Years ago there was a nude beach in Miami where voyeurs and swingers hang out.

[Midwestern]

Wow. I guess I shouldn't be surprised to find a senior ISG member who knows this scene but I am stunned this scene exists. We are def going on a no single guys night. But Kayla is legit finest overall body I've ever been with and a super pretty face. She warned me all the guys will be eye fucking her and I'm ok w that.

Our plan at this point is to stay one on one (this is what Valentina and I did). I don't think I'the be averse to a swap with a hot couple but we will see esp since only half our couple is hot. LOL. Kayla is bi so no issue if she wants to make out a girl or eat pussy while I pound her. I'm truly excited and was already excited!

Swinging never occurred to me. Did not know that was still alive and well. I wonder how one gets into the scene. How did Kayla find out about it? Also, do you think it would be okay to get contacts while you are there? Will it be free to attend? Will some gals charge per hookup? I am intrigued. Cannot wait for your report about it.

[Steve 9696]

I'm fairly experienced in the swing scene and Trapeze in Ft. Lauderdale is probably the best I've been to. Bear in mind, the social dynamic is pretty much the same everywhere. Couples are mostly older (like 40's), while the younger, better looking couples tend to be cliquish and stand-offish. That said, the magical charm is always the unicorn (pretty young girl), so if you bring that with you, you have your opening. But, you still must be sociable, dress well, and be attractive to the ladies of the other couples. Even then, you might just wind up playing with your own partner in the back rooms, which still can be fun, especially if you like voyeurism and exhibitionism, or just enjoy being surrounded by sexual energy (as I do). These events are not free-for-all, random-swapping orgies like you see in porn. Furthermore, the best events are private house or hotel parties, not the clubs in my opinion, but when you go to a club in a new town, ask around and find out who runs the best events and get into the inner circle. It's not that hard (again, if you have that unicorn).

Some events allow single men, and I avoid those like the plague. Trapeze allows them on Friday nights and I made the mistake of going earlier this year with a very sexy girl. I was fighting off packs of hyenas all night long, and eventually had to have one relentless stalker removed from the club. Saturday nights (at most clubs around the country) are usually reserved for couples and single women only, so that's when I'd choose to go.

Wow. I guess I shouldn't be surprised to find a senior ISG member who knows this scene but I am stunned this scene exists. We are def going on a no single guys night. But Kayla is legit finest overall body I've ever been with and a super pretty face. She warned me all the guys will be eye fucking her and I'm ok w that.

Our plan at this point is to stay one on one (this is what Valentina and I did). I don't think I'the be averse to a swap with a hot couple but we will see — esp since only half our couple is hot. LOL. Kayla is bi so no issue if she wants to make out a girl or eat pussy while I pound her. I'm truly excited and was already excited!

[CarloRogue]

A lot of women use this line on guys, so please do not be fooled. Women have told me this a lot; do not underestimate how cunny these ladies can be.

I don't care what women say (hence my rule #2: never believe what a sugar baby says). You've made a big mistake if you've put yourself in a position to trust a sugar baby. But this is not to say I hate women. I only care if they (1) show up, (2) look reasonably like their pics, (3) are fun on some level. They can tell me whatever stories they want, whatever helps them in the moment feel good about themselves, while I smile and nod along.

[DramaFree11]

Steve has posted lots of great advice on using SA in the USA. I have also posted a bunch of advice in this thread too. When I was active on SA in the USA, I spent at least 20 hours each week on the website. No exagerration. During a 20 month period, I probably contacted five to ten thousand gals, conversed with one or two thousand, and met about a hundred. I eventually had relations with about two dozen SBs, and most of them were great. I would say that it was worth it, BUT only because I also enjoyed the searching and the process. If the search for good SBs is a pain in the ass for you, then SA in the USA may not be ideal for you.

Great, post! I agree the Search sometimes is the best part.

[DramaFree11]

Go ahead and laugh from the sidelines then, and keep posting your misogynist observations of no consequence here. Your theme has been said countless times on the other SB boards, and usually from a poster that complains about getting banned from SA. If you're convinced they're all prostitutes, then the ones on there will find you and vice versa (there are indeed some, no doubt). And then eventually, the moderators will find you both too. Furthermore, I'm glad there are people like you on the site (as long as you manage to last), as it makes it so much easier for me to stand out with the genuine girl-next-door. Heard many times: "You're the first guy I met because you didn't sound like a creep". Well that was pretty easy.

Yep, it all boils down to jealousy. Trust me we all pay for girls one way or another. If I miss a day of work, it costs me at least $700-1000 and most of that is profit. My main crew are all-stars, but when I am not there things change. So if I am flying or driving all over the world it does cost money, even if I do not pay directly. Honestly the guys that make more money pay more, because they miss work. Guys, can call it whatever they want, but we all pay and married guys usually pay way more!

I agree there is a lot of b. S on SA especially in the States, but you can find some real great girls. Midw. Gave some great advice, "enjoy the search", but do not waste too much time on it. Devote 30-60 minutes a day. Nothing wrong with meeting someone for a drink or coffee, maybe something good will develop. Just never pre-pay and you will be fine.

[Shyzai]

Heard many times: "You're the first guy I met because you didn't sound like a creep". Well that was pretty easy.

A lot of women use this line on guys, so please do not be fooled. Women have told me this a lot; do not underestimate how cunny these ladies can be.

[CarloRogue]

It's really funny how upset some of you guys are getting.

I said the women on these sites are worse than prostitutes because prostitutes are at least honest about who they are and what's happening.

If guys want to fool themselves into believing that they're seducing incredible women and that they're really only giving "gifts" instead of a fee, that's their (unfortunate and sad) business. But the rest of us are free to laugh at the absurdity of it.

As I said earlier, stop paying and see how long any of these "relationships" last.

Go ahead and laugh from the sidelines then, and keep posting your misogynist observations of no consequence here. Your theme has been said countless times on the other SB boards, and usually from a poster that complains about getting banned from SA. If you're convinced they're all prostitutes, then the ones on there will find you and vice versa (there are indeed some, no doubt). And then eventually, the moderators will find you both too. Furthermore, I'm glad there are people like you on the site (as long as you manage to last), as it makes it so much easier for me to stand out with the genuine girl-next-door. Heard many times: "You're the first guy I met because you didn't sound like a creep". Well that was pretty easy.