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  1. #2169
    Quote Originally Posted by Steve9696  [View Original Post]

    Guess my experience is that ignore / deflect is a good SBSD texting device to handle disconnects without making a big deal. You guys have any similar experiences?
    I'm noticing the same with one I'm currently seeing.

    If it's about clothing I just say "that looks nice". And leave it at that or switch the conversation.

    Also had a moment where she tried to push a date through. She managed that the first time but it was a happy end.

    The second time I deflected by saying my schedule doesn't allow it and she backs off.

  2. #2168
    Quote Originally Posted by Steve9696  [View Original Post]
    Guess my experience is that ignore / deflect is a good SBSD texting device to handle disconnects without making a big deal. You guys have any similar experiences?
    Actually just had one this week with a casual SB from a few months ago. From time to time she must just run through her address book asking for $$ help with this or that. The tell tale sign for me, is she switches from calling me BrizLad to calling me "babe". Her other tell is her message blocks switch from 1 sentence messages to 5 sentences per send.

    My deflection is "OK, next time I see you".

  3. #2167

    Ignore / Deflect

    So maybe you guys know this but if your girl is headed a direction you don't like it's best to just ignore / deflect in texts. They do the same in return. Like Su was asking overtly for money — like hey babe I really need xxx. And I would just ignore and change the subject in the next text. Later in person I told her that pushes us apart and she seemed to understand but I think ignore was the best policy rather than making a big deal over text.

    Same thing with Kayla but less overt. She will drop a hint that she's going to do X OR why is expensive. Sometimes I bite and send her something. Sometimes I don't — I just ignore and it seems no harm no foul. She does it in reverse so I think it's a thing! Like I suggest we go to the hotel before dinner and she just ignores and deflects with some other conversation. I know she's not down for that. But we don't have some big discussion.

    Guess my experience is that ignore / deflect is a good SBSD texting device to handle disconnects without making a big deal. You guys have any similar experiences?

  4. #2166

    So Right. Country Specific.

    Quote Originally Posted by BrizLad  [View Original Post]
    Compare & contrast.

    The experiences of Rextor, Oneminuteboy, RedWaters44 and others demonstrate that SA is a movable experiences based on country.

    What works in one country for the girls can be an entirely different model in a different country.

    If it is 'all business' as Oneminuteboy experienced, then, for me, I would abandon SA for that country as might as well just go the hooker route and get a professional experience without the SA tax.

    When I monger in Philippines I don't even consider SA as it is attracting the girls with the wrong experience.
    Totally agree. Only game in town in the US. And frankly really good if you put in the time. Found a gem in Buenos Aires where the hooker / club scene bites. But yeah In countries with good P4 P Seeking is really not your best bet. Think I've seen some success from DramaFree in Monterrey or some such. But scoring in strong P4 P countries is rare / hard. Or if you do all you are scoring is a P4 P girl using SA as a platform.

  5. #2165
    Compare & contrast.

    The experiences of Rextor, Oneminuteboy, RedWaters44 and others demonstrate that SA is a movable experiences based on country.

    What works in one country for the girls can be an entirely different model in a different country.

    If it is 'all business' as Oneminuteboy experienced, then, for me, I would abandon SA for that country as might as well just go the hooker route and get a professional experience without the SA tax.

    When I monger in Philippines I don't even consider SA as it is attracting the girls with the wrong experience.

  6. #2164
    So I've met a few new candidates, in my own country. Also had a few cancel.

    Of one that cancelled she was strictly business at the start that I had to warn her about SA rules. She saw this as a 6 month experiment for herself. Asked €500, which I agreed to. As we talked to pin a date she softened up. And eventually folded, scared to meet.

    Had one that asked €350. But she wasn't really a looker. Because I wasn't sure I suggested the first meet just talk to see if there would be some chemistry but no fee, though expenses paid by me.
    She got upset and blocked me.

    Another one, looks to be more of a 6. Quoted a price of €200 per meet. Very willing to meet. Have this one on standby.

    Soon meeting up with a 8/9. No price set. I really hope I can get this one, else the 6 just to see if she upgrades to a 7.

    Met and slept with a 7, price at €300 per meet. Great pussy and company. Went straight to BB.

    Another 7, I wasn't sure about her but got her to the room. Man was I disappointed, €350 fee. We agreed for 2-3 hours on the room. I let her go after 1 saying I was tired.

    Things seem different than when I last fished in my own pond. One thing if for certain, the men are more crazy than before. The stories I heard explains why a lot disappear quickly.

  7. #2163
    Quote Originally Posted by Shyzai  [View Original Post]
    I am in LA, and yes, those numbers for LA are just too low. The minimum to get anything here is 400. If you want a 9 and above, then at least 500. Of course, YMMV and you might get lucky and get a good one for less, but I am talking about the norm.
    For $500 I tell the women I would rather look at porno and play with myself. Then they drop the price and their panties.

  8. #2162
    Quote Originally Posted by MiamiBoy1  [View Original Post]
    I'm in Medellin now, for 1. 5 months already, and SA here sucks. 90%+ of SA girls have no clue how real SB-SD relationships work (or at least, some similar relationships, not 1 night stands). They don't think long term, they don't care about chemistry and affection, but they lie both are important to them. Every time I try to set up a date, I explain what I expect from the date, what I want and need. I explain what GFE means, without going into too much detail. I tell them how chemistry important to me, and that I want both of us to have fun and enjoy our time together. And you know what? They all agree to it, they lie that that is exactly what they are looking for, blah blah blah. When we finally meet, I give them my best BFE (boyfriend experience LOL) and make sure girls are comfortable and relaxed. Only to see them get dressed in less than 3 minutes and stand by the entrance door ready to leave after 1st (and last) round of sex. What a turnoff! And of course, no "thank you" or "would love to see you again" message after the date. Most of my SA dates in MDE happen to be 1 night stands, no matter how hard I try or screen them. Reminds me of Lleras girls, they want you to cum as fast as possible, so that they get back to the park to milk another sucker. The difference is that SA girls are usually lower volume, and provide better GFE service, overall than hardcore pros in El Centro or Parque Lleras.
    My experience with sa in medellin is that it takes a fuck ton of time. There's maybe some gems ti be found but I think the FB route is just easier. Yeah FB girls are all at least Semi pros, but at least it's quick and reliable. If you want a real SB experience Seeking or as you said real life may be the way to go, but FB is just easier overall.

    SA seemed ok in Mexico City, met a couple of great girls, but that was a year ago.

  9. #2161

    Yes. That. Exactly.

    Quote Originally Posted by MiamiBoy1  [View Original Post]
    SA / Tinder girls have provided much better service than all others putas. GFE all around. Only once I had a situation when SA girl tried to upcharge me for BBBJ (obviously, never saw her again). I would rather prefer PPM, which is per meet, than get charged by the hour by some Lleras puta and get mechanical all covered shitty service. There is nothing wrong with PPM as long as it serves both parties' needs. My dates with SA girls, with a few recent exceptions, are non-rushed, relaxed and passionate. Yes, I pay extra wine and dine expenses, taxis, etc but overall experience is so much better and well worth it. Sometimes a girl stays overnight, and the price we agreed on becomes so much sweeter, and cost per fuck decreases.
    This is spot on. An SA date (done right) is so much more / better than just going to the room for an hour or two of sex. And yeah, the moment when you realize she's sleeping over because she WANTS to is simply priceless. My only fear is that I started SA just as a way to have sex in the US. But now some 25 girls later ive become totally addicted to the more complete experience. I honestly don't know how I will feel about straight up P4 P when that becomes available to me again. I've grown very accustomed to the companionship and romance part and think I will find pure P4 P lacking. Guess we'll see!

  10. #2160
    Please drop me a private message with a short note about you and your contact details. I will share it with her and you can take it from there.

    G.

    Quote Originally Posted by Shyzai  [View Original Post]
    I am very much interested. I just bought a subscription using Bitcoin, about 9 hours ago and I am waiting for the Admin to activate my privileges. I am more of a contributor on the Los Angeles Sugar Babe USG forum, since I almost never travel and I live vicariously through you gentlemen.

  11. #2159

    Yeah Seems Low

    Quote Originally Posted by RedWaters44  [View Original Post]
    Great write up! Can any current members confirm whether they've had great mileage with those US rates? They seem awfully low but maybe I'm just nave (still learning the SA game).
    My experience is rates are up a bit post pandemic. Going to be lucky to score an 8+ in a major US city for $400. Seems all the girls are asking $500 and sticking to it pretty good. Might get them down to $400. But don't think it's going lower than that. I've been thrilled with my $500 girls. Especially when they are 24 hrs like Kayla. Worth every penny.

  12. #2158

    LA too low

    Quote Originally Posted by RedWaters44  [View Original Post]
    Great write up! Can any current members confirm whether they've had great mileage with those US rates? They seem awfully low but maybe I'm just nave (still learning the SA game).
    I am in LA, and yes, those numbers for LA are just too low. The minimum to get anything here is 400. If you want a 9 and above, then at least 500. Of course, YMMV and you might get lucky and get a good one for less, but I am talking about the norm.

  13. #2157

    US PPM Rate

    Quote Originally Posted by Ailton  [View Original Post]
    I have updated the table with new entries, thank you all for the additions. To all the silent readers: we know you are there. Please consider telling us about your experiences, the setting and how much it set you back.

    EUROPE

    Austria

    Vienna 300 EUR for the Night.

    Czech Republic.
    Great write up! Can any current members confirm whether they've had great mileage with those US rates? They seem awfully low but maybe I'm just nave (still learning the SA game).

  14. #2156

    Interested

    Quote Originally Posted by Gunners1  [View Original Post]
    One of my gym instructors SB is planning a 3 week sojourn in LA. She is super horny and ready for anything. A true squirter. You will need a mattress protector.

    Ok. If anyone is keen to have her details let me know. And I shall share her contacts with you.

    She plans to arrive on 10 Sep.

    G.
    I am very much interested. I just bought a subscription using Bitcoin, about 9 hours ago and I am waiting for the Admin to activate my privileges. I am more of a contributor on the Los Angeles Sugar Babe USG forum, since I almost never travel and I live vicariously through you gentlemen.

  15. #2155

    Because I get better service

    Quote Originally Posted by Elvis2008  [View Original Post]
    Thing I do not get is if you are having to name a price and they are hos then why use seeking at all.
    SA / Tinder girls have provided much better service than all others putas. GFE all around. Only once I had a situation when SA girl tried to upcharge me for BBBJ (obviously, never saw her again). I would rather prefer PPM, which is per meet, than get charged by the hour by some Lleras puta and get mechanical all covered shitty service. There is nothing wrong with PPM as long as it serves both parties' needs. My dates with SA girls, with a few recent exceptions, are non-rushed, relaxed and passionate. Yes, I pay extra wine and dine expenses, taxis, etc but overall experience is so much better and well worth it. Sometimes a girl stays overnight, and the price we agreed on becomes so much sweeter, and cost per fuck decreases.

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