Seeking Arrangements

[MiamiBoy1]

Jesus Christ, what have I done with Colombia? LOL. Maybe I should get the obligatory finger wagging out of the way first, you know, to keep the tradition alive. You are paying $100 a month to score Colombian pussy? Do you know how much pussy that buys in Colombia? Man, you are fucking stupid. Okay, sorry. Just kidding. I have to let you who follow in my trail know the crap I had to put up with.

You will get a ton more hits in Colombia than here. I had 2 dates a day in Bogota and 3 in Medellin. The flake rate and tardy rate is high. If you are all fucked out and someone no shows, that may be a relief. If you are really horny and counting on a girl, have a Plan be handy which could be a see, the, E, and F in Colombia honestly.

I do not know what you are looking for on a date, but really I just wanted to see if they looked like their photos and I was good to go and DTF. The second date rule in the USA does not apply. Last date I had from seeking there I wasted two hours for dinner when the girl was clearly DTF when we just met. The women there in general do not have the anti-prostitution mindset of women here.

So coffee for first meet. In the 40 or so dates I had, there was only one girl who wanted to wait for a second date. In half the cases, I stupidly brought up price. Finally, I quit doing that and would meet women who were DTF without a price, and they were always better in bed. If the woman insists on a price, she is a working girl. I fucked plenty of working girls from SA and had fun but really that is a waste of time. You are better off being with women who admit to being working girls versus ones playing they are not. There are hot women there on seeking who want to fuck American men and do not want to be paid for it. The best ones will be out to prove that they want to fuck you and not get paid.

I always would meet them in my hotel and at the hotel cafe or restaurant. Use the excuse you do not know your way around. Again, you only have so much time so make sure they come to you to save time. You will be swamped with responses. The good ones will find you.

Get whatsapp. Get their numbers. Keep in mind that getting their number does not mean a date. Chances are one in 2 or 3 after that you will meet. A great trick is a lot of the woman who use WA make videos that you can see. With the videos, you can see what they really look like, and my reaction to that was all the way from "Damn, she is hotter than her pics" to "My god she is fat. " so that is a neat trick to use.

One last piece of advice is to repeat with the best you find. There was a guy here named Stinky Squid who found one and cut himself off from all the others. I do not recommend that. I would not have that degree of oneitis. However, if you find a good one do not think the next one is going to better. My second visit with a great Columbiana would usually trump a new one. My goal and I think the goal of guys is to find yourself a stable of keepers. Eventually, as in my case, one will probably become queen.

So meet at your hotel, coffee not a meal unless it is a quick one, no price if possible, if price say yea or nea but she is a working girl and remind yourself of that, repeat with the great ones. There are plenty there that will fuck you without being paid.

First of all, I have to admit that the quality of SA girls in Bogota has gone downhill. Yes, the quantity is still there, and Bogota probably beats any other city in Latin America. However, the quality is not there. Just doing a simple search with only 2 parameters (18-27 yo range, with photos) brings 10000+ results. Most of them registered long time ago and have not been active for weeks or months. Around 200-300 or so are more or less active. Out of those couple of hundred only a few are 8 or above, others are average looking, in 5-6. 5 range. Want to find a spinner? Good luck with that! Most girls are fat, especially those who post 1-2 photos, or selfies only. I can almost guarantee that if a girl does not post a full body photo, she is fat. Even if you happen to find a very attractive girl, she either won't respond to your messages or will quote unrealistic price. One girl quoted me $5000, yes, USD, LOL.

95% of all the girls that I have recently contacted at some point just flake. They simply stop responding, delete profiles, change phone numbers or block you for no reason. Even if you have agreed on everything and decided to see each other. Very very few speak English, if they text in English, it does not mean anything, most likely they are using google translate, and if you don't speak Spanish I can guarantee your date will be awkward because of the language barrier and communication issues.

Current going rate is about 350-400 mil COP and up, depending on how hot she is. 8's and above will most likely quote higher numbers and won't budge, because the demand is there and there is a fewer competition.

As to the suggestion of not discussing a price, good luck with that! 99% won't be interested in seeing you. Yeah, there is a slim chance of meeting a college student who is looking to practice her English, or some woman in her 30's with kids looking for a husband, but do you really want that? Just because you are gringo does not mean she will fuck you for free, especially if you are older and below average looking. SA is all about the arrangement. They expect and want you to pay. The truth is, most of them are working girls. Some are pros, others are semi pros. Some are high volume, others are low volume. But they all know what we are looking for.

Elvis, if I followed your suggestion of not setting a price, I would probably get zero dates, because they would not be interested. I have read a bunch of reports here, where guys fuck 10's for free. I'm not saying this is impossible, especially if you are fit / good looking, speak their language and got your game, but for an average monger Joe chances to score an 8 for free are close to zero, I'm not even talking about 9's and 10's. If she is hot and in high demand, why would she fuck you for free? Doesn't make any sense.

Some of you will say I'm being too pessimistic, but this is my recent experience. I understand that my standards are high, and I'm not traveling to another continent to fuck average women. If you are not as picky as I am and willing to put time and effort, your chance of success will be much higher.

[Steve 9696]

It's funny how streaky SA and the harem is. I'm currently in a major American city awaiting Mika who is flying in. I saw Sue earlier this week and she's checking in on me. Earlier this week I found a Miami hottie and she's soooo my type and just loves to shoot the shit about anything. She's really growing on me and we chat often. Then out of the blue Layla who had gone ice cold says her work schedule changed and let's start meeting up in the weekends.

It's just so odd because I've got Mika coming and I should be 100% focused on that. But I've got three other girls I'm actively chatting with and feel distracted! And other times I can't find a girl to save my life. It's just odd how it's so streaky.

Too many hotties to chat up. But I’m sure my persistent boner tomorrow as I await Mika will focus me. LOL.

[Midwestern]

LOL. Steve, your post literally cracked me up. Okay, here's another update.

She went to see her parents this past Friday and returned on Saturday. We agreed to meet Sunday morning. However, starting from around 6 pm Saturday, she does not reply to any of my texts.

Well, Sunday arrives, and I go to our apartment, and it does not looked lived in. I sent her a text asking where she was, and no reply after 30 minutes and so I decided to bail and decided to catch up on some work.

While I am at the office, I get a text from her saying that she is at the apartment. I asked her why she ignored my texts since 6 pm yesterday, and I asked her where she was last night, since the apartment does not looked lived in. I was pretty pissed off.

She replied angrily that she went to work last night, because she had nothing else to do because I can never see her in the evenings, and she said she continues to sleep at the dorm because she does not want to sleep by herself at the apartment.

So I then I told her that I was at work and I will see her another day. And man, that pissed her off. She said she work up early to meet me, and all she gets is my scolding. She said if I do not see her now, then she will never see me again. So, I decided to see her.

When I arrive at the apartment, she is crying pretty hard. I apologized. We then cuddled, but I was not thinking about fucking her since she only recently got on her period, but she begged me to fuck her, because she said her period was already done. I did not have a Viagra on me, but her body is so hot that I was able to manage a semi and stick it in. Wasn't my best performance, but we went at it for about 30 minutes. Again, during the entire time we are fucking, she keeps calling me her husband. I love you husband. You are my husband. Husband. Husband. Husband. Yeah, she sometimes just says husband while I am fucking her. And then she went to work.

On Monday, we are texting as usual, and then she mentions that she ran out of perfume and asked me if we can go buy some. I said sure. Then she said that if I am able to get it on my own then that is fine too. She sends me a picture of the brand, and it costs $250. No problem. I bought it for her.

I saw her yesterday (Wednesday). She has the day off yesterday and today due to the communist party's 100 year anniversary. So, we met at the apartment at 10:30 am, and we remained in bed until 4:00 pm. This time, I was Viagra enhanced. And I also took about 5 sips of beer to numb my dick so that I can last longer (pro-tip). So, during 5. 5 hours, we fucked for about 4 hours of it. Again, she kept calling me her husband. As an aside, she is insatiable. She would not let me take a break. Just wanted to keep fucking. You would think that someone that jerks guys off all day for a living would be bored of physical intimacy. But maybe her job makes her hornier.

Oh, and Steve, I tried out your favorite position. It's like a scissors position with one of her legs up against your chest? It is an awesome position, because you can easily grab both her tits and ass. I was literally thinking about you for a few minutes while I was fucking her. Thanks for the idea. She also loved the position.

But here's the interesting part. We all know that pros know how to make us cum. Well, while I was barebacking her, she was totally trying to get me to cum inside of her. She tried about a half dozen times. But luckily, my dick was numb from the beer, so I am pretty sure that none of my baby batter went into her.

Oh, and one other interesting thing is that she kept asking me to spend the night with her at the apartment. I just ignored her. She asked me a bunch of times, and I ignored her every time. I already told her that I could not a few days earlier, so I do not know why she kept asking again.

I am supposed to see her again tomorrow morning before her shift.

So far, other than the perfume, she has asked for nothing from me. I am sure there is a big ask coming though.

[Steve 9696]

MW. What's the 411? You barebacking your balls off? Stop fucking for five minutes and let us know! Spill the tea man!

[Elvis 2008]

Hi all,

I'm rather new to SA and recently purchased a premium membership for an upcoming trip to Colombia. My question is, this is a very beginner question, but what is the expected order of operations / etiquette on SA, contact girl on SA, ask if they're interested in a date, is the usual expectation that we meet up go for drinks / dinner, come back to my apartment, and go from there? Do you tend to agree on money before hand or after?

Curious what more seasoned guys have down as general etiquette for everyone getting what they want and leaving content.

Thanks.

Jesus Christ, what have I done with Colombia? LOL. Maybe I should get the obligatory finger wagging out of the way first, you know, to keep the tradition alive. You are paying $100 a month to score Colombian pussy? Do you know how much pussy that buys in Colombia? Man, you are fucking stupid. Okay, sorry. Just kidding. I have to let you who follow in my trail know the crap I had to put up with.

You will get a ton more hits in Colombia than here. I had 2 dates a day in Bogota and 3 in Medellin. The flake rate and tardy rate is high. If you are all fucked out and someone no shows, that may be a relief. If you are really horny and counting on a girl, have a Plan be handy which could be a see, the, E, and F in Colombia honestly.

I do not know what you are looking for on a date, but really I just wanted to see if they looked like their photos and I was good to go and DTF. The second date rule in the USA does not apply. Last date I had from seeking there I wasted two hours for dinner when the girl was clearly DTF when we just met. The women there in general do not have the anti-prostitution mindset of women here.

So coffee for first meet. In the 40 or so dates I had, there was only one girl who wanted to wait for a second date. In half the cases, I stupidly brought up price. Finally, I quit doing that and would meet women who were DTF without a price, and they were always better in bed. If the woman insists on a price, she is a working girl. I fucked plenty of working girls from SA and had fun but really that is a waste of time. You are better off being with women who admit to being working girls versus ones playing they are not. There are hot women there on seeking who want to fuck American men and do not want to be paid for it. The best ones will be out to prove that they want to fuck you and not get paid.

I always would meet them in my hotel and at the hotel cafe or restaurant. Use the excuse you do not know your way around. Again, you only have so much time so make sure they come to you to save time. You will be swamped with responses. The good ones will find you.

Get whatsapp. Get their numbers. Keep in mind that getting their number does not mean a date. Chances are one in 2 or 3 after that you will meet. A great trick is a lot of the woman who use WA make videos that you can see. With the videos, you can see what they really look like, and my reaction to that was all the way from "Damn, she is hotter than her pics" to "My god she is fat. " so that is a neat trick to use.

One last piece of advice is to repeat with the best you find. There was a guy here named Stinky Squid who found one and cut himself off from all the others. I do not recommend that. I would not have that degree of oneitis. However, if you find a good one do not think the next one is going to better. My second visit with a great Columbiana would usually trump a new one. My goal and I think the goal of guys is to find yourself a stable of keepers. Eventually, as in my case, one will probably become queen.

So meet at your hotel, coffee not a meal unless it is a quick one, no price if possible, if price say yea or nea but she is a working girl and remind yourself of that, repeat with the great ones. There are plenty there that will fuck you without being paid.

[Elvis 2008]

Has anybody on here tried using SA in Tijuana.

Two words for SA in Tijuana: It sucks. For high quality pussy in Tijuana, go to Hong Kong. If you want a sugar daddy type relationship, work a deal with a HK girl for P4P in her home town. Hottest Mexican women come into HK from all over the country. I could have and would have built a huge high quality rotation from there if I had the time.

You pay the same amount to get laid there as you do to take an American girl to dinner.

[MikeCct]

Hi all,

I'm rather new to SA and recently purchased a premium membership for an upcoming trip to Colombia. My question is, this is a very beginner question, but what is the expected order of operations / etiquette on SA, contact girl on SA, ask if they're interested in a date, is the usual expectation that we meet up go for drinks / dinner, come back to my apartment, and go from there? Do you tend to agree on money before hand or after?

Curious what more seasoned guys have down as general etiquette for everyone getting what they want and leaving content.

Thanks.

[AmorPorFavor]

Has anybody on here tried using SA in Tijuana. I'm actually trying to give it a go right now. I live 25 minutes from the border. Met the first one outside of the Quartz hotel where I was staying. Its a nice new hotel. Even though I tried very hard to find out what she actually looked like it couldn't be done. She sent me several deceptive photos that made her look to be a 9. She shows up and is maybe a 6, not looking sexy at all. Said sorry baby and gave her $10 for Uber. Adios. She then of course blocked me on SA LOL. Messaging on phone with another one who looks hot. Set up a meet and agreed on $200 plus taxi. Then let her know that I would need a bbj. She said no. Adios strike 2. Messaging with a third one and first thing she asks is how much. I said $200 with a tip. She laughed and said how hot she was and blocked me. Strike 3. Didn't even give me a chance to counter. Sorry bb but I'm not paying SD prices in Tijuana. She looked hot but still pictures somewhat deceptive as to her figure. I mean how hard is it to figure out what these bitches actually look like? Any advice as to pricing and quality in Tijuana would be appreciated. Got a room booked at the Ticuan for Wednesday and sending out messages to some I've been chatting with. Can always head to Hong Kong if it comes to that.

[BrizLad]

The first rule of being a SB is that you do not mention price. The second rule is you let me know what your needs are. I am not going to fulfill them all at once I said, but I will make a list and as we get to know each other better, I will do my best to fulfill reasonable requests. The third rule is that we forget about all the stresses in our life and have fun. The fourth is I like that you trust me and part of that is letting me go bare.

We have all experienced the benefit of inheriting a SB that ahs been trained / guided by an experienced hand. We all have a bit of a responsibility to train the girls also.

[Elvis 2008]

When I wrote about my foursome trip to Cancun, Maria was the novice. She said the trip was life changing and longed to get back.

Thing is prior to the trip I was disappointed with her. The first time we met she was stunning in a long black dress. We were making out on the hotel couch. Clothes were about to come off, and she made me stop and asked "How much?" She has previously been an escort so I guess that is to be expected, but she did not like how she felt doing that and quit. I think you can make an escort into a SB if she quits on her own. Otherwise, it is a bad idea.

Still, she was really hot and gave great head, so I invited her to my hotel months later, and it was lecture time. How to be a SB 101. The first rule of being a SB is that you do not mention price. The second rule is you let me know what your needs are. I am not going to fulfill them all at once I said, but I will make a list and as we get to know each other better, I will do my best to fulfill reasonable requests. The third rule is that we forget about all the stresses in our life and have fun. The fourth is I like that you trust me and part of that is letting me go bare.

That night, I banged her bare. She asked, "Well, daddy, can I at least have some money for tonight? I am broke. " She was learning.

So we go on our trip, and she loves Cancun. It is paradise on earth for her. I know how much a plane ticket is and how much that is for a Colombian. I think it is going to be a while for her to return to Cancun.

So I meet the woman of my dreams and meeting her and her two SB sisters is not in the cards, but she texted me today.

"Elvis, I met a 40 year old American guy off seeking and he is flying me to Cancun. He is kind of my boyfriend now. What do I need to do to get through Mexican Customs?

It is pretty clear to me she took my teachings well. Now I know she *****d around in Cancun after I left, but I think my lecture did not go to waste. I mean why fly her to Mexico unless the guy thought she was special? Shit you could bang 10 hotties in Bogota for the price of that ticket.

She even wrote, "I love being with older men. " So I took a little joy with my professor skills. She got back to Cancun in 3 short months. Maybe I did need to be more patient and explain the rules of the game to the women instead of dumping them or going for the more broken in models. In the end, it all worked out.

But like I said, she was fine, tight, gave great head, and now someone else is enjoying that fineness. Yeah, I know. She is not yours just your turn but still shouldn't I be allowed to put her on layaway for a year? LOL. Isn't that fair?

[Steve 9696]

Anyway, I have a feeling that this is not going to end well for either of us, but for now, I just want to fuck her as much as possible.

Hahaha. I laughed so hard. Dude you need no advice. You have this figured out 100%. This is it exactly!

I don't know if you guys have heard the Arriana Grande song "Thank you. Next" uncensored but she puts into words exactly how I feel and how we should do this:

"I'm so fucking grateful for my ex. Thank you. Next!" LOL it's my theme song!

[Midwestern]

She moved into her new place on Tuesday. This is one week after I first met her. I am renting this apartment for her. How crazy and dumb is that? LOL. But my plan is to also use the apartment to meet outcall girls when she is at work or when she is out of town visiting her parents. That is, I am hoping to get good mileage from the apartment.

Anyway, I met her up with her when she moved in, and she gave me an extra set of keys for the apartment. Then we went shopping together for beddings and other household items. We get back to the apartment at 2 pm, and she was running late for her shift at the MP, but I told her to call in late and go to work at 4 pm, and she said okay. And then I fucked her for 90 minutes and then left. Later that day, she keeps asking me to live with her in her new apartment, and I say no.

I saw her again on Thursday, but she just got her period, so we just fooled around at her place before she had to go to work. I plan on not seeing her again until after her period is over, so probably next Tuesday.

We text every day. She keeps telling me that she loves me. She is as crazy as I am, I guess. I keep wondering how it is possible that I am able to bareback her the first time I met her. And for no tip! Is she just easy? One part of the mystery has been revealed: Her younger sister got married only a few weeks ago. After her sister's wedding, she just suddenly moved to Shanghai and started working in a HJ MP. Her entire family is asking her to return home. Not sure if you guys know this, but in Asian culture when a younger sibling gets married before an older sibling, the older sibling loses face. So, I am now thinking that she is majorly depressed and just moved to Shanghai on a whim, and I was simply at the right place at the right time.

Anyway, I have a feeling that this is not going to end well for either of us, but for now, I just want to fuck her as much as possible.

I saw her again, and we had passionate bareback sex for 2. 5 hours in the MP. The weird thing was that she kept calling me her husband, about 30-50 times. She kept saying I love you husband. That was really weird.

While we cuddled, I gave her money for the apartment. And then she asked me if I was going to live there or at least spend the night there. I said I cannot. She was speechless and suddenly all the happiness was sucked out of the room. She asked me why I couldn't sleep there, and I used Brizlad's great suggestion and said my daughter lives with me. She then asked me again if I was single and I said I was. Then she asked if she could come to my place sometime, and I had to think quickly and I said I live in service apartment and my colleagues live there too. However, I over-explained this, so it came across as a lie, I am sure.

She then asked me if I ever wanted another kid, and I said no. Then she said she wants a kid. But I said that I didn't. Her mood was totally somber. She was so happy while we were fucking. But suddenly she was getting the picture.

I'm still confused about what's going on. She works in HJ MP. So far, our entire relationship is we met three times, and we spent almost all of it barebacking. Almost from the beginning. Why did she bareback me right from the beginning, and for no tip? And did she really think we were going to end up together?

[Elvis 2008]

My personal research in the period 2015-2019 when I was busy barebacking filipinas I was a regular attendee at the local STI clinic.

I prefer a quote like that 100 X more than someone freaked out by what they are reading on government health websites. If you go back on my posts, I have two entries on what I do to prevent getting STDs while barebacking (what antibiotics, antivirals to use), and I have been barebacking for a decade and had no problem when sticking to my regimen. I am not sure if antibiotics or antivirals are available OTC where you were, but I always keep some on hand.

Thing is using antibiotics and antivirals for prophylaxis is no big deal.

[BrizLad]

I ask: what the woman is afraid of doing bareback?

My personal research in the period 2015-2019 when I was busy barebacking filipinas I was a regular attendee at the local STI clinic.

Since, committing to use condoms I have not had any problems.

[Elvis 2008]

Hey gents,

How do you transition from covered FS to bareback?

I ask: what the woman is afraid of doing bareback? If it is getting pregnant, I buy Plan be pills. If it is diseases, I offer to pay for testing for both of us.

However, you are already wrong about how you go about it. I hide my condoms deep in my suitcase instead of leaving them out. I get bare probably 3 out of 4 times and expect to get it. Out of that, I would say 3 out of 4 women put it in voluntarily. One in 4 times I do it. I pull out when I cum. When done, I clean up my mess and give them Plan be pills afterwards if they are not on birth control. You can buy plan be in Mexico and Colombia for like a buck or two a pill. I make sure I see the women swallow the pills after we are done.

Now here is the controversial part where we will have the CDC nazis chime in. With Covid, the CDC said stay home and stay safe, but studies showed 75% of the time Covid was transmitted at home. The one phrase that early on the crisis that was repeated was some millennial stoner saying, "Man, I am going to party on the beach, if I get Covid, I get Covid. " This guy had to apologize but of all the places in the world, the best place to not catch Covid was the beach. The CDC nazis were wrong.

Those wanting to get their CDC application for safe mongering badge approved, and we have dozens here, will tell you bareback is dangerous.

Condoms were designed for pregnancy prevention not STD prevention, and outside of pregnancy prevention, I think the Covid analogy is apt. Outside of pregnancy prevention, I liken using a condom to staying home with Covid; like staying at home was more dangerous than being at the beach, IMO I think using condoms is more dangerous than not using them due to latex allergies, but again that is just my opinion.

So I just proceed like I am going to bareback and expect that and I am going to get it and make the women stop and bring up condom use. Women are amazing about this though. So many will pick up on the fact that if I do not get my way, I am done with them. They just somehow know that I want bareback and give it to me.

But if one stops and says, "Do you have a condom? I go into being a dick mode. I will often stop the passion (if the chick is really hot, I might just put on the condom and proceed) sigh and say, "Why do you need a condom?" like she is the dumbest person on the planet. She gives the explanation. If it is pregnancy, I say I have plan be. About one in three women will let me fuck them bare after I tell them that. But two out of three times, she does not give me an explanation but says she is just more comfortable. I then say to her, "Well, look sex is not as good for me when I wear a condom. Also I have had a latex allergy (I actually had some penile bumps with condom use once or twice with an off brand which is the most common latex reaction) and there is a chance I could die from the latex. Do you know how many people die of latex allergies per year?" Of course, she does not know about how many die nor about latex allergies which makes her feel even more stupid.

When we finish up, I will then ask her "What is it going to take for us to have sex without a condom?" If it is fear of STDs, I will agree to get tested which is cheaper abroad than in the USA sex prison and pay for her testing.

The key here is that I am letting the women know I am going to see them less and give lower gifts if we use a condom because my pleasure is less. Chances are really good if she is not a 9 in looks and in the sack, I am done with her. I get bareback that often.

Thing that changed my mind about bareback sex was a massive study in 2002 that showed condoms did not work for most STDs and seeing how high the rate of latex allergies were. The CDC nazis will say that study was debunked. It was not.

I have always been amazed how people worry about the wrong thing. With Covid, the biggest risk was the family dinner not social distancing at Walmart. With sex with women, it is very common that they get bladder infections after sex and that infection can ascend into the kidney and cause sepsis and possible death. And you know how many women have mentioned to me this very real risk? Zero. But they are all worried about AIDS even though they know no other women who got AIDS through sex.

With guys, it is not AIDS but the contact things. Herpes, crabs, warts. Condoms probably help a little for that, but the studies show that their help is not statistically significant. But the biggest issue is really not a STD type of bacteria. When you fuck a woman, you get her good bacteria on your dick and then you go to another woman and introduce that foreign bacteria into her. The good bacteria become bad as this woman not used to it. That can cause an infection in her called bacterial vaginosis (BV) and is again incredibly common. So for that, I always wash up afterwards.

Thing is that BV smells. So if after washing my dick if it is not smelling Irish Spring clean, then I will take the medication for BV. I am not going to mention what that is here. If a woman smells of BV, then I will take the medication afterwards as well even if I use a condom.

There was an old rap song in the 80's with the line, "If it don't smell, it ain't no good. " and it probably has some truth to it. More experienced women, who are likely better in bed and have had multiple partners, are more apt to smell.

Anyway, that is my patient pending method to getting bareback in seeking women.

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