Seeking Arrangements

[BrizLad]

I ask: what the woman is afraid of doing bareback?

My personal research in the period 2015-2019 when I was busy barebacking filipinas I was a regular attendee at the local STI clinic.

Since, committing to use condoms I have not had any problems.

[Elvis 2008]

Hey gents,

How do you transition from covered FS to bareback?

I ask: what the woman is afraid of doing bareback? If it is getting pregnant, I buy Plan be pills. If it is diseases, I offer to pay for testing for both of us.

However, you are already wrong about how you go about it. I hide my condoms deep in my suitcase instead of leaving them out. I get bare probably 3 out of 4 times and expect to get it. Out of that, I would say 3 out of 4 women put it in voluntarily. One in 4 times I do it. I pull out when I cum. When done, I clean up my mess and give them Plan be pills afterwards if they are not on birth control. You can buy plan be in Mexico and Colombia for like a buck or two a pill. I make sure I see the women swallow the pills after we are done.

Now here is the controversial part where we will have the CDC nazis chime in. With Covid, the CDC said stay home and stay safe, but studies showed 75% of the time Covid was transmitted at home. The one phrase that early on the crisis that was repeated was some millennial stoner saying, "Man, I am going to party on the beach, if I get Covid, I get Covid. " This guy had to apologize but of all the places in the world, the best place to not catch Covid was the beach. The CDC nazis were wrong.

Those wanting to get their CDC application for safe mongering badge approved, and we have dozens here, will tell you bareback is dangerous.

Condoms were designed for pregnancy prevention not STD prevention, and outside of pregnancy prevention, I think the Covid analogy is apt. Outside of pregnancy prevention, I liken using a condom to staying home with Covid; like staying at home was more dangerous than being at the beach, IMO I think using condoms is more dangerous than not using them due to latex allergies, but again that is just my opinion.

So I just proceed like I am going to bareback and expect that and I am going to get it and make the women stop and bring up condom use. Women are amazing about this though. So many will pick up on the fact that if I do not get my way, I am done with them. They just somehow know that I want bareback and give it to me.

But if one stops and says, "Do you have a condom? I go into being a dick mode. I will often stop the passion (if the chick is really hot, I might just put on the condom and proceed) sigh and say, "Why do you need a condom?" like she is the dumbest person on the planet. She gives the explanation. If it is pregnancy, I say I have plan be. About one in three women will let me fuck them bare after I tell them that. But two out of three times, she does not give me an explanation but says she is just more comfortable. I then say to her, "Well, look sex is not as good for me when I wear a condom. Also I have had a latex allergy (I actually had some penile bumps with condom use once or twice with an off brand which is the most common latex reaction) and there is a chance I could die from the latex. Do you know how many people die of latex allergies per year?" Of course, she does not know about how many die nor about latex allergies which makes her feel even more stupid.

When we finish up, I will then ask her "What is it going to take for us to have sex without a condom?" If it is fear of STDs, I will agree to get tested which is cheaper abroad than in the USA sex prison and pay for her testing.

The key here is that I am letting the women know I am going to see them less and give lower gifts if we use a condom because my pleasure is less. Chances are really good if she is not a 9 in looks and in the sack, I am done with her. I get bareback that often.

Thing that changed my mind about bareback sex was a massive study in 2002 that showed condoms did not work for most STDs and seeing how high the rate of latex allergies were. The CDC nazis will say that study was debunked. It was not.

I have always been amazed how people worry about the wrong thing. With Covid, the biggest risk was the family dinner not social distancing at Walmart. With sex with women, it is very common that they get bladder infections after sex and that infection can ascend into the kidney and cause sepsis and possible death. And you know how many women have mentioned to me this very real risk? Zero. But they are all worried about AIDS even though they know no other women who got AIDS through sex.

With guys, it is not AIDS but the contact things. Herpes, crabs, warts. Condoms probably help a little for that, but the studies show that their help is not statistically significant. But the biggest issue is really not a STD type of bacteria. When you fuck a woman, you get her good bacteria on your dick and then you go to another woman and introduce that foreign bacteria into her. The good bacteria become bad as this woman not used to it. That can cause an infection in her called bacterial vaginosis (BV) and is again incredibly common. So for that, I always wash up afterwards.

Thing is that BV smells. So if after washing my dick if it is not smelling Irish Spring clean, then I will take the medication for BV. I am not going to mention what that is here. If a woman smells of BV, then I will take the medication afterwards as well even if I use a condom.

There was an old rap song in the 80's with the line, "If it don't smell, it ain't no good. " and it probably has some truth to it. More experienced women, who are likely better in bed and have had multiple partners, are more apt to smell.

Anyway, that is my patient pending method to getting bareback in seeking women.

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[Elvis 2008]

Gentlemen,

I wanted to alert you all that I am seeing quite a few underage girls misrepresenting their age on SA in Colombia. I know many punters have started using it, but it's obviously an issue that is getting more common. The first time it happened I thought it was a one off, but it's happened 3 times. Not a single time in Feb when I last hunted for contacts. Of the 3, they listed their ages as 18, 19 and 21. My screener is set to 18-26. They all said they were attending university, and went along with the banter, which I quickly took to a messaging app. Even we did discuss our expectations of our time together and economic help I could provide, Luckily I never asked for nor did I get any nudes, just regular pictures(though in one case I was offered them for money which I fortunately declined). The key question before any others is, do you have your cedula. Now legitimately Covid has messed up the just turned 18 this past year crowd, as between the covid closures, the economic malaise and the riots, it was not normal processing. Also what usually takes a month is apparently now closer 2-3 months. Either way the economic desperation is causing some to enlist and if you aren't super careful the risks are enormous for obvious reasons. Even extortion plots are not out of the question.
After calling things off, one even had the temerity to say it was OK because her mom had given authorization. I couldn't delete that number quick enough.
Be careful out there fellas.

GH, I asked one for her birthday when I wanted to meet her. She could not give it to me. She said I will pay for it myself. Six months later, I saw her on her Instagram page celebrating her 18th birthday.

It is a reason to be weary but the feds take a very grim view of extortion.

It really speaks volumes about how stupid and sexist our country is. A guy tried to follow the law, the girl lies, and the man is at fault? I had someone try to pull that extortion stunt with me in Mexico. After seeing a gal, a Mexican man texted me and pretended he was the woman's GF and said she was under age. He said he could make it all go away if I paid him. The woman had her ID on file at the hotel, and it showed she was 22. I looked at the local laws and talked to a local woman. In Mexico, what I learned is that if a woman lies about her age or has a fake ID, the police rarely do anything. Imagine that.

Anyway, if there is any doubt about a woman, tell her you will buy her a plane ticket where she has to show ID. If she refuses, move on.

[Pessimist]

Hey gents,

How do you transition from covered FS to bareback? I have met a good number of SA girls in Mexico and Colombia, but never had a bareback experience (only once actually, but we were drunk and got back to covered FS on the next date, so it does not count). Is it something that usually happens a few weeks / months deep into the relationship after you build enough trust / chemistry? Yes, I have had many GFE sessions, DFK and BBBJ are the norm, but when it comes to bareback FS girls are very resistant and scared AF. Even those with whom I had, in my opinion, a great chemistry (or maybe not so great? LOL) refused to fuck bare.

I'm reading multiple reports here where you guys manage to bareback on the very first date. How is it even possible?

P.S.: Yes, I assume all the risks, there is no need to discuss possible consequences.

I had a few BB girls. It is not something I actively seek. When they happened, they happened naturally and initiated by the girl. Only one girl provided in the first session, another on the second time we had sex. I always made sure to mention I have protection handy. In fact, unless I know the girl well I actually prefer covered sex and quite often I prefer covered sex with even girls I have known for a while. But that one who I had bareback fuck on the first sex date, she was superhot and I was going to meet her only a few times (she was in town for a temporary visit) and I yielded to the temptation.

Bottomline, I don't ask for it, I don't force it. Perhaps if I am seeing someone for months I might go there but then again if she has multiple other relationships that I know of, I might stay with covered sex. It all depends. I can live w / o bareback sex with sugarbabes, that is for sure.

Anal sex is the same way; it is typically not a high priority for me. Again, I don't ask for it. But a few girls offered, I accepted a few times. Unlike in FKKs and WGs, the good thing about sugarbabes is that nothing is ever an extra. She either grants it or not, but I go w / the flow.

[MiamiBoy1]

Hey gents,

How do you transition from covered FS to bareback? I have met a good number of SA girls in Mexico and Colombia, but never had a bareback experience (only once actually, but we were drunk and got back to covered FS on the next date, so it does not count). Is it something that usually happens a few weeks / months deep into the relationship after you build enough trust / chemistry? Yes, I have had many GFE sessions, DFK and BBBJ are the norm, but when it comes to bareback FS girls are very resistant and scared AF. Even those with whom I had, in my opinion, a great chemistry (or maybe not so great? LOL) refused to fuck bare.

I'm reading multiple reports here where you guys manage to bareback on the very first date. How is it even possible?

P.S.: Yes, I assume all the risks, there is no need to discuss possible consequences.

[DramaFree11]

Gentlemen,

I wanted to alert you all that I am seeing quite a few underage girls misrepresenting their age on SA in Colombia. I know many punters have started using it, but it's obviously an issue that is getting more common. The first time it happened I thought it was a one off, but it's happened 3 times. Not a single time in Feb when I last hunted for contacts. Of the 3, they listed their ages as 18, 19 and 21. My screener is set to 18-26. They all said they were attending university, and went along with the banter, which I quickly took to a messaging app. Even we did discuss our expectations of our time together and economic help I could provide, Luckily I never asked for nor did I get any nudes, just regular pictures(though in one case I was offered them for money which I fortunately declined). The key question before any others is, do you have your cedula. Now legitimately Covid has messed up the just turned 18 this past year crowd, as between the covid closures, the economic malaise and the riots, it was not normal processing. Also what usually takes a month is apparently now closer 2-3 months. Either way the economic desperation is causing some to enlist and if you aren't super careful the risks are enormous for obvious reasons. Even extortion plots are not out of the question.
After calling things off, one even had the temerity to say it was OK because her mom had given authorization. I couldn't delete that number quick enough.
Be careful out there fellas.

This is just one of the many issues with Colombia. Guys talk about it a little, but yes it is a problem there. I will never go back. For me Mexico is a 1000 times better. The girls, food, service and weather all so much better. Not to mention the girls shitty attitudes in Colombia, is one of the biggest turn off for me. I just blocked a girl from Colombia that was In MTY, the minute she mentioned MDE I was turned off. I never recall a Mexican girl, telling me how hot they are. Colombia girls are the opposite, they always tell me how hot they are. Honestly I do not find there fake tits and big asses attractive at all. I prefer the tall and slender girls I am meeting in MTY much better. I do like fake tits if, there not to big.

Not mention I feel much safer in Mexico, then I did in MDE.

[GeneHickman]

Gentlemen,

I wanted to alert you all that I am seeing quite a few underage girls misrepresenting their age on SA in Colombia. I know many punters have started using it, but it's obviously an issue that is getting more common. The first time it happened I thought it was a one off, but it's happened 3 times. Not a single time in Feb when I last hunted for contacts. Of the 3, they listed their ages as 18, 19 and 21. My screener is set to 18-26. They all said they were attending university, and went along with the banter, which I quickly took to a messaging app. Even we did discuss our expectations of our time together and economic help I could provide, Luckily I never asked for nor did I get any nudes, just regular pictures(though in one case I was offered them for money which I fortunately declined). The key question before any others is, do you have your cedula. Now legitimately Covid has messed up the just turned 18 this past year crowd, as between the covid closures, the economic malaise and the riots, it was not normal processing. Also what usually takes a month is apparently now closer 2-3 months. Either way the economic desperation is causing some to enlist and if you aren't super careful the risks are enormous for obvious reasons. Even extortion plots are not out of the question.
After calling things off, one even had the temerity to say it was OK because her mom had given authorization. I couldn't delete that number quick enough.
Be careful out there fellas.

[Nounce]

Of course this could kill it all but I think it's better to manage expectations than be fucking her where she believes she's working towards an LTR. That's just uncool IMO.

My friend Tom met a girl who wanted to visit his place and stayed overnight on the first date. Tom is single so they met at his home. Tom told me the girl has a child with a married man when she was working a normal job in another country several years ago. The man lied to her and she found out the man was married after she was pregnant. The married man wanted to give her money but she wouldn't take it and went back to her own country to have the child.

[Steve 9696]

Of course I have no idea what is really going on but here are some further ideas.

You said she is new there and homesick. Is she young also? Maybe she is just started in this MP thing and not yet jaded. She views sex in a very romantic way. Like we see in the movies. That sex and love and marriage all go together. The big lie. But maybe she believes it. So to her passionate sex Means love and that leads to marriage. There is no question when you are new to sex that you develop powerful (and probably false) attraction and caring for the other person ie love.

I think you should have a sit down talk like the following:

I like you very much but I can never be your husband. I have been married before and come to learn that I don't believe in marriage and one person with another forever. So I will never marry again. We should enjoy each other as long as we can but we can never be more than boyfriend and girlfriend. Some day U will find a husband and that is good. I will be very happy for you.

On the coming to your place thing I'the use the daughter saying your daughter is home most all the time. Plus I have lived alone so long I do not enjoy being overnight with someone else. I am sorry.

Of course this could kill it all but I think it's better to manage expectations than be fucking her where she believes she's working towards an LTR. That's just uncool IMO.

[Steve 9696]

I saw her again, and we had passionate bareback sex for 2. 5 hours in the MP. The weird thing was that she kept calling me her husband, about 30-50 times. She kept saying I love you husband. That was really weird.

While we cuddled, I gave her money for the apartment. And then she asked me if I was going to live there or at least spend the night there. I said I cannot. She was speechless and suddenly all the happiness was sucked out of the room. She asked me why I couldn't sleep there, and I used Brizlad's great suggestion and said my daughter lives with me. She then asked me again if I was single and I said I was. Then she asked if she could come to my place sometime, and I had to think quickly and I said I live in service apartment and my colleagues live there too. However, I over-explained this, so it came across as a lie, I am sure.

She then asked me if I ever wanted another kid, and I said no. Then she said she wants a kid. But I said that I didn't. Her mood was totally somber. She was so happy while we were fucking. But suddenly she was getting the picture.

I'm still confused about what's going on. She works in HJ MP. So far, our entire relationship is we met three times, and we spent almost all of it barebacking. Almost from the beginning. Why did she bareback me right from the beginning, and for no tip? And did she really think we were going to end up together?

Dude. Much as I envy you fucking this hottie bareback I think you are entering dangerous territory. She sounds a bit more than a little whacked and it would not surprise me if she is TRYING to have your baby right now and hopes to rope you in. (Are you snipped?

Fun as it may be sounds like it could go all Fatal Attraction in a heartbeat. I'the be real careful.

[Midwestern]

I saw her again, and we had passionate bareback sex for 2. 5 hours in the MP. The weird thing was that she kept calling me her husband, about 30-50 times. She kept saying I love you husband. That was really weird.

While we cuddled, I gave her money for the apartment. And then she asked me if I was going to live there or at least spend the night there. I said I cannot. She was speechless and suddenly all the happiness was sucked out of the room. She asked me why I couldn't sleep there, and I used Brizlad's great suggestion and said my daughter lives with me. She then asked me again if I was single and I said I was. Then she asked if she could come to my place sometime, and I had to think quickly and I said I live in service apartment and my colleagues live there too. However, I over-explained this, so it came across as a lie, I am sure.

She then asked me if I ever wanted another kid, and I said no. Then she said she wants a kid. But I said that I didn't. Her mood was totally somber. She was so happy while we were fucking. But suddenly she was getting the picture.

I'm still confused about what's going on. She works in HJ MP. So far, our entire relationship is we met three times, and we spent almost all of it barebacking. Almost from the beginning. Why did she bareback me right from the beginning, and for no tip? And did she really think we were going to end up together?

I saw her again today. At the MP. We just started barebacking almost immediately. And we went at it for 3 hours! Multiple positions, several times each. She shags superbly, especially when she is on top. She just did not want to stop. Kept begging me to keep going. She kept saying that she loved me, that she wants to be my girlfriend, that she wants to be my wife, etc. Passionate GFE and DFK.

Guys, this simply does not happen. And so, I am just dumbfounded.

Anyway, eventually, I had to go. I again offered a tip, but she just looked at it with disdain and did not want to take it. This time, I insisted. I said that as her boyfriend, I should take care of her.

I also ended up paying for three one-hour massages. The two guys at the front desk were also dumbfounded when I paid. After all, who the hell goes into a happy ending MP before 1 pm and comes out after 4 pm?

Anyway, she started looking around for apartments. I will pay her rent. That's the plan for now. Not sure if she expects a monthly allowance. Maybe she is eyeing the long game. But I cannot even speak Chinese, so not sure why she thinks the long game is doable.

Before I left, she asked if we could go bar hopping sometime. Maybe she is really into me. She also asked about my sleeping situation, to confirm that I sleep alone.

I asked her if she has kids and I asked her age. She just kept changing the topic or made jokes. She could have easily lied about both, but decided to just dodge the questions. Maybe this is a good sign.

By the way, an hour later, I looked at myself in the bathroom and to my shock and horror, my mouth was covered in lipstick!! OMG, I wonder how many people saw that? Man, I need to be more careful (says the guy who barebacks women that work in HJ MPs).

[Midwestern]

BL,

All excellent suggestions. I used the daughter one, and I'm hoping it can be a long run solution. But I agree with you 100% that being honest way more likely leads to a longer SB SD relationship.

I'm in a similar situation. For me I say that I have a older daughter at home. Oh you want to come now? Let me see if she's home. Sorry can't come now.

Yes, I can meet you next Tuesday / Wednesday evening. No worries. In the mean time let's meet today at your place. Then cancel on the Tuesday eveinng plan.

That's a great idea to stay over. Next Tuesday night? Great. Let's meet today at your place anyway. Later in the week, Oh wait, I have early work on Wednesday. Let's try another time. Maybe you can do it on an out of town visit while home office thinks you are away.

My impression is that with this one it's not going to be a long term solution. The best arrangements happen for us when we can be open and less covering of our tracks. Do a couple of PPM and move on I think or open up.

[BrizLad]

(1) What if your SB wants to go your place? What should you say? (This is likely to happen if you lied about your home situation.).

I'm in a similar situation. For me I say that I have a older daughter at home. Oh you want to come now? Let me see if she's home. Sorry can't come now.

(2) What if your SB wants to meet in the evening? (I can only meet her during the day. In the evening, I'm usually home. I can duck out on occasion, but it'll become suspicious if I do it often.).

Yes, I can meet you next Tuesday / Wednesday evening. No worries. In the mean time let's meet today at your place. Then cancel on the Tuesday eveinng plan.

(3) What if your SB wants you to spend the night at her place? What should you say? (I definitely cannot do this given my home situation.).

That's a great idea to stay over. Next Tuesday night? Great. Let's meet today at your place anyway. Later in the week, Oh wait, I have early work on Wednesday. Let's try another time. Maybe you can do it on an out of town visit while home office thinks you are away.

Yeah, I know, we shouldn't lie about home situation, but my current SB target will not be with me if I am not single. In fact, given that I plan on only paying her rent and nothing else, she may view herself as more of a GF then an SB.

Thanks for any suggestions.

My impression is that with this one it's not going to be a long term solution. The best arrangements happen for us when we can be open and less covering of our tracks. Do a couple of PPM and move on I think or open up.

[DramaFree11]

(1) What if your SB wants to go your place? What should you say? (This is likely to happen if you lied about your home situation.).

(2) What if your SB wants to meet in the evening? (I can only meet her during the day. In the evening, I'm usually home. I can duck out on occasion, but it'll become suspicious if I do it often.).

(3) What if your SB wants you to spend the night at her place? What should you say? (I definitely cannot do this given my home situation.).

Yeah, I know, we shouldn't lie about home situation, but my current SB target will not be with me if I am not single. In fact, given that I plan on only paying her rent and nothing else, she may view herself as more of a GF then an SB.

Thanks for any suggestions.

Funny, I have nixed the day game. My phone or her phone will be ringing the whole time. I say 20% of the girls I have met in the states can only meet during the day, I decline.

I do meet girls during the day in Mexico. , but my time is limited. Nothing wrong with a girl spending the night, probably best to have a couple meetings first.

[Midwestern]

(1) What if your SB wants to go your place? What should you say? (This is likely to happen if you lied about your home situation.).

(2) What if your SB wants to meet in the evening? (I can only meet her during the day. In the evening, I'm usually home. I can duck out on occasion, but it'll become suspicious if I do it often.).

(3) What if your SB wants you to spend the night at her place? What should you say? (I definitely cannot do this given my home situation.).

Yeah, I know, we shouldn't lie about home situation, but my current SB target will not be with me if I am not single. In fact, given that I plan on only paying her rent and nothing else, she may view herself as more of a GF then an SB.

Thanks for any suggestions.