Seeking Arrangements

[Steve 9696]

K ima just going to have to disagree on the age thing. I totally vibe with girls under 25, with 23 being almost the magic age over and over. And here's yet another 23 year old home run! BTW virtually all my early 20s home runs have nose rings fwiw. I consider it a tell now!

Been so excited about my first post Covid trip to a larger US city. Started surfing for SA girls about 6-8 weeks ago, just to have something to do and managed to snag one almost a month ago and another about two weeks out. Both were really nice about being girlfriendy and staying in touch, so I kicked others to the curb and set up M for night 1 and A for night two. The idea is to then repeat with the best on night 3 and possibly 4. I had a third Latina girl in backup in case of a fail and she was really sweet to agree I could be a last minute hookup, but I did not need her after all and let her down gently once I had sampled the other two.

M (23) is a 5-10 black girl, super slim with a very cute face. And wow what a body but I didn't know this going in, from her nondescript pics. Then there is A (20), who is a Brasileira with traditional Moreno look that I love, with the classic silky black hair. Both girls were great. But M was awesome and kinda just blew the doors off A and most other girls I've been with honestly.

M had been super girlfriendy by text -- literally checking in daily on how things were going and just light chit chat. I was really thinking she might be the one, so I scheduled her for night 1. We had agreed terms by text. She'the said she got 500 with her last Daddy and I didn't try to push her off that. But Instead said OK I'll do 500 date 1 but then 900 for two dates and 1200 if we have three dates. (500+400+300) She was good with this. (Later during pillow talk she let something slip that she mighta gone for 300 but damn she is worth every penny of four or five.).

We met up just two hours after I landed, at a pub with some great food. We ate in a circular booth, not quite side by side but more adjacent than across the table. The vibe at dinner was really good. Slightly awkward at first because she is so good at this game. She would just stare straight at me with intent interest! I am so used to girls being a bit shy or looking away, but not M! So it threw me off my game a bit. But we got to vibing and chatting and it got really easy quickly.

As we finished up dinner, I said want to get out of here and she said sure. OK. So far so good. As we walked towards the parking lot she asked where I was parked and she said she was over there. This was not my finest moment as I walked her to her car I didn't have a good flow going. We got there and turned face to face she's my height in heels and I just said "uhh, so do you want to continue?" Kinda awkward! But she says YES and plants a big kiss on me! And we rock on to the hotel, her following me.

In the room things go super easy. I don't have any wine but it doesn't seem to matter after we each have a bathroom break she is sitting legs sidewise on the bed looking expectant. So I oblige and join her and we start making out. She is a GREAT kisser and clearly loves to kiss. We shed her dress and her bra and I start to work her magnificent tits.

And they are MAGNIFICENT. Prior to M, Kendall in London held the sole crown of having the finest firm D cups on planet earth. And yet, here was M right before me, with truly world class tits -- I'd say a dead tie with Kendall and everyone else paling in comparison. Her Victoria's Secret bra says 32 DD, but they are notorious for making a girl feel good by overstating her assets. She later told me she's usually a 34 D. Super slim. Huge, amazing and firm rack.

And she loves to have them sucked hard and nipples licked. I was in heaven. Between that and the kissing she is a sloppy wet mess downstairs when I get there. Turns out she's a full Bush girl, which I haven't seen since Vietnamese girls but it's neatly trimmed enough. I do some DATY and she's ok with it but not going to orgasm. She has a beautiful pink pussy inside and the fingering is awesome, which she seems into.

After a while, I maneuver to my fave position. Her on her back or partially on her side. Me kneeling near her head. Fingers in her pussy. Dick in her mouth. OMG I looooove that. And she can suck dick. So long and slow with her thick lips. And with the wet pussy I am about to burst several times and have to stop her.

Eventually we suit up and a do a few different things but the mish is legendary. She's tall so we are face to face. We just make out non stop while I fuck her. So good. Deep, passionate kissing while fucking in mish is my top activity aside from a great BJ and I could do it almost forever. But finally I drop a load inside her and collapse.

During the break it's really nice pillow talk. She's a smart girl with a quick wit and it's just effortless to hang together. We prob chat for 30-40 minutes. After a quick bathroom break we start kissing again and it's on!

Round two I am always a bit floppy and she goes down to get me worked up. Well she's a magician and gets me going in no time. Back on my knees with wet pussy fingers and soft and slow BJ and I have to stop her several times again which is amazing because I'm never ready to cum in the first five minutes on round 2 . But I finally let her proceed fully and let loose a hot load in her mouth which she SWALLOWS without a word. Smiles and kisses me. Wow. What a girl! (as I've said before, SA rocks here -- no negotiation, no upsell -- I often get CIM with swallow and a smile. Sooooo awesome.).

So after this experience, I am sure that M is the repeat girl. One of the top girls I've found on Seeking. She's the whole package. Tall, lithe, and beautiful, with amazing firm the cups and a sopping wet pussy. Great in bed but most importantly a passionate full time kisser who truly enjoys herself. And finally she is smart, witty and a great girlfriend but totally knows the score.

But my Brasileira, A, is really nice too. And we had invested in a lot of chat and had a fixed dinner date and reservation and I really didn't want to let her down, so I proceeded with A for night two. Plus never hurts to have more girls in the harem.

When we had talked allowance A said we'the just figure it out when we meet. I have usually found this awkward but it worked OK. And I was thrilled to meet a Brasileira stateside who was not a mega gold digger. I figure if she hits me with a big figure at dinner, I will just part afterwards. But it didn't go that way thank goodness.

I sent an Uber for her as she does not drive. I met her just outside the restaurant as she was coming down the sidewalk from the Uber. Uau! To linda! (Wow so beautiful). Tight, short LBD and strappy white stripper heels. Really hot.

At dinner it was a little less of a flow as she is young, plus not a native English speaker and needs me to carry the conversation. She turns 21 the next day (and couldn't meet up on her birthday) but I manage to order wine for both of us without missing a beat. She squeals with delight when she takes her first sip. This kinda thing is so great about SA also -- introducing these young ladies to the world and its delights.

So pretty quickly two slightly awkward topics come up. One, she has a one year old kid at home, who she is checking on. And two she thinks I live local and we are here to set up something regular. The kid isn't a big deal but the second was a BIG disconnect. She clearly thought she was headed to setting up a regular income stream and instead finds a dude who just wants to bang her once or twice. Damn I felt horrible I got her out with the wrong expectations and we are just a one night thing. But it really was just a misunderstanding and frankly more her fault than mine.

Well after a few minutes of her seeming flustered and confused about what to do and me apologizing but saying I thought it was clear I am only there a day or two, she finally says it's ok and no problem. And sure enough, she compartmentalizes this and we never talk of it again. Great job on her part pivoting to the moment.

We have a nice enough dinner but it's a bit more FWB than sexy lovers. We talk about how she had to pay some guy $20 K to get her into the US. And shortly thereafter, another guy got her pregnant and ditched her. We talked about some of her prior SBs including a 70 year old guy, who was super sweet and I guy she sees who is loaded but fat and ugly and treats her like a doormat.

In general I get the feel that she's been treated badly by men and I feel really bad for her. She yearns for some true affection. She comments how much she loves that I check in on her daily. She's a sweet soul and deserves better than the lot in life she's been given (she cleans houses as her day job).

Not much pretense here as we wrap dinner and head to my car. She hops right in and off we go to the hotel.

The in room experience is just a bit off maybe too friendly and not romantic enough but I can't really complain -- she's kinda goofy, fun and beautiful. She gets her clothes off and hops under the covers saying it's cold (later I realize this was likely to hide her baby damage). I get naked and under as well. But rather than initiating sex she seems to want to cuddle. Again I feel a bit bad for her because she needs affection. So I play along nuzzling and stroking not knowing if this is somehow going sideways or not.

But after maybe 15 minutes of cuddling and nuzzling she swings her leg over and gets up in cowgirl naked junk and lady parts pressed against one another and starts grinding. She too has great tits and is super pretty so this gets the act started. Feeling her pussy, she is much wetter than I expected. She is ready to rumble! She asks if I have a condom and how I want to start. I say mish, but what no BJ? She giggles "oops I forgot!" she's a bit drunk on a glass and half of wine. And she goes down on me raw like one would hope. Pretty good BJ but we suit up pretty quickly after.

She's a good kisser and when we talk later about how I have had SBs who don't kiss she is mystified. Like how can you have sex without kissing? And I have to agree!

She is super loud and over the top with her moans. She is in fact a sloppy mess but I am not sure I believe her verbal histrionics. Nonetheless we try various things and end with her on her back at edge of bed and me standing and driving with her legs over shoulders. I do this a lot with Layla and it's quite good. So I drop a load inside her there. There is a bunch more cuddling and we both almost fall asleep -- but I know she needs to get back to her daughter. I feel like I gave her what she needed and vice versa.

Uber home is going to be $70 so I drove her and got to see what a dicey neighborhood she lives in. I would not feel safe there at night. On the way it was fun though, because I said let me practice my Portuguese and we had a conversation like I might with a girl I just met. She was very complimentary and said it was perfect, which made me feel good.

As she exited my car at her place, I gave her 400 in a card. Since we are chatting still by text, guess she was good with that. Honestly she mighta taken less but damn she has a rough life compared to me. I felt I definitely left her better than I found her. And I wouldn't mind seeing her again I had a lot of fun. But she can't compare to M.

Next up is night two with M which was truly epic. We went to a restaurant of her choosing which was really good. When she arrived in an LBD with black spikes. OMG statuesque does not even capture it. She looks amazing even in clothes!

Nice dinner but the main event is back in the room. We are now so comfy together. Flirty and fun. The kissing is epic. The pussy wet and wild. Those tits absolutely to die for. We get to joking how I don't enjoy cowgirl that much from a feel standpoint but the view of her with her the cups bouncing up and down and a big smile and perfect thin waist is so epic. She says that I get this "kid in a candy store" look. And she loves making me do it!

We do some 69 for the first time and it's super nice. I guess because she's 90% legs her torso isn't so long. So her pussy falls a bit short of my face. But this is great because I can lean forward and dive in with tongue or I can finger her and watch as my finger sinks inside. Wow. And of course the BJ is great also. Duh.

Lots of fucking and BJ and everything in between. After some great mish kissing I get close to the edge but we stop and let her finish bare by mouth. CIM and swallow of course. Yummy.

We have a TON of pillow talk and round 2 which is again BJ only and CIM swallow. Which is great because I'm beat. The cuddling and talk is amazing, even talking about our craziest sexual experience (me sex club, her being spit roasted which she loved. LOL) We spent a full 5 hours on this date, although she did decide to go home around midnight and we'the meet up again the next day.

Next day we met up for brunch and had some out of this world stuff at a place she knew (great having a local tour guide) and we spent some good time just hanging out and having a coffee in the park before going to the room. She looked hot AF again -- I mean she dressed in a form fitting peach dress and matching peach spikes for BRUNCH! What a girl. And come to find out she doesn't even have a bra on! What girl can rock the D cups without a bra? Those are some firm and perky tits man!

Much more of the same (two rounds and CIM swallow to finish both times) and a total of four hours on our last day! Wow. M is the total package. I definitely want to see her again and likely fly her with me somewhere so we can really hang out.

As you guys know SA is sifting thru large piles of bullshit to find the gems. And I found a sapphire in A and a diamond in M. Makes it totally worth all the rest. Totally.

[DramaFree11]

Back in the MTY and killing. I did have a couple of new girls scheduled, but they went dark. No problem, called one of the regulars and amazing sessions. Just got done with a session, Anal, Rimming, and everything else. She is a total Porno Star. Never says no. The model is scheduled for this afternoon. Meeting another hot girl at S. Prime this evening. Life is good.

San Antonio is much harder, but I am making slow progress, I knew it would be tough and lot of work, but Holly Shit some of the crap these girls try and pull with there fake pictures, it is just incredible. Video Chat or no go for me. I can afford to take my time, because I always have MTY. I imagine I will give on SA in San Antonio, but who knows, it is a challenge.

[Drbombay]

I had a great time with gals in their 30's, 40's, and even in their 50's, yes, 50's, on SA. These older gals loved to fuck. And they were genuinely into me.

I met some college gals on SA, and after a while, I decided that I was not into that. And so eventually, I never talked to anyone under 24 on SA. But everyone is different, and everyone is looking for different things. But I really enjoyed the older gals on SA. And, for me at least, they were better for dating too, outside of the bedroom. Yes, these older gals do want to get to know you, so there is that. But I did not mind it.

The thing about older women on SA is that they understand their "glory days" have passed and are looking at more for their long term stability. So they are less likely to just "trip out" and understand a man's got to do what a man does more easily than some younger ones. I've also found that some older women do really enjoy sex more, especially if they aren't worried about starting a family.

[WyattEarp]

This is unscientific but usually at that age if a woman is attractive, IMO she is going to stay attractive. For that reason, there are a lot more hot 20 somethings than 30 somethings but the women in their 30's IMO have a bigger sexual appetite.

All in all, I prefer women in their 30's but the problem is that more often than not, age or having children has hurt them looks wise. But if you get a hottie at 34, you are in for a great ride. Honestly, the women in their 30's are better in bed and more passionate than those in their 20's in my experience.

Yes Elvis, a lot of sexy women under 25 can't carry that sex appeal into their 30's. Weight gain and child bearing stressing the body. I think you'll agree, shorter women generally suffer more physical decline. There's also cutie looks that don't really age well.

You're also right that thirtysomething women really get into bed with the idea of pleasuring their partners and enjoying themselves. I won't digress on why here. Too many young hotties take sex and their sexual partners for granted.

[Elvis 2008]

Any thoughts on getting into something like that with a 34 Y. O? I'm sure if I take it further she will poke around even more and I intend to keep myself as insulated as possible.

This is unscientific but usually at that age if a woman is attractive, IMO she is going to stay attractive. For that reason, there are a lot more hot 20 somethings than 30 somethings but the women in their 30's IMO have a bigger sexual appetite.

The woman of my dreams is 32, and I have to add that my first year in the "real world" was 30. I had worked and had jobs but never run my own business, and that was a hell of an education to see how some people really are. I grew up more that year than any of my life.

Thing is that I do not like to go through that maturity phase with women. Women in their 20's typically do not respect the work it takes for us to have money whereas women in their 30's generally do. As such, the older women appreciate our generosity more in general.

The exception, and this is weird, but I am just going to say it, has been women who have been involved in the drug world. I am not advocating drug use by any means but women who have been in that world in their 20's do not have to be introduced to reality. They have lived it.

All in all, I prefer women in their 30's but the problem is that more often than not, age or having children has hurt them looks wise. But if you get a hottie at 34, you are in for a great ride. Honestly, the women in their 30's are better in bed and more passionate than those in their 20's in my experience.

Also, I am in my mid50's, and I have had so many women tell me that age is not important to them, but the women in their 20's do get shit from their friends if they are dating an older man. With women in their 30's, there is none of that from people she knows or from strangers.

[DramaFree11]

So I think I will be moving to San Antonio next week, for a new business opportunity. Back on SA in San Antonio, what a difference from MTY. I have met 3 girls so far, one I sent packing. The other was nice but was completely tat. Up, from head to toe. I have no problem with the Tat. , but she was 20 pounds bigger then her pictures and had body odor. 3rd was ok, but I do not think she is interested. All 3 had serious baggage and substance abuse issue. Another issue these girls totally try and hide there bodies, in there pictures. Video Chat is a must in America, or you will be wasting you time. 3 days is in week, is not bad, it would have been more, but there was bad weather and this caused some cancelations and issues with my work as well. I will keep trying. I am in MTY now, life is good. 3 girls Saturday, the model girlfriend spent the night. Yes, Elvis this one might be better then all the other combined. As I have been saying I would totally commit to her. I need to see what happens in SA, the decision will be made Wednesday if I buy the new business.

San Antonio will be great, professionally, socially and even closer to MTY. Life is good. I love MTY, Tijuana and Moscow. Kiev / MDE suck.

[Gunners1]

I have had some very memorable experiences from older women. This was before SA. Her husband used to be a pilot and was hardly at home. She used to call me over when she needed to get off. I was in college those days and it was so much fun. She used to make some of the best burritos I have had. The best thing about older women is that they badly need the sex and are unable to find it from their partners.

The young ones at times come with heaps of attitude and excess baggage.

G.

I had a great time with gals in their 30's, 40's, and even in their 50's, yes, 50's, on SA. These older gals loved to fuck. And they were genuinely into me.

I met some college gals on SA, and after a while, I decided that I was not into that. And so eventually, I never talked to anyone under 24 on SA. But everyone is different, and everyone is looking for different things. But I really enjoyed the older gals on SA. And, for me at least, they were better for dating too, outside of the bedroom. Yes, these older gals do want to get to know you, so there is that. But I did not mind it.

[Midwestern]

I had a great time with gals in their 30's, 40's, and even in their 50's, yes, 50's, on SA. These older gals loved to fuck. And they were genuinely into me.

I met some college gals on SA, and after a while, I decided that I was not into that. And so eventually, I never talked to anyone under 24 on SA. But everyone is different, and everyone is looking for different things. But I really enjoyed the older gals on SA. And, for me at least, they were better for dating too, outside of the bedroom. Yes, these older gals do want to get to know you, so there is that. But I did not mind it.

Since my last post here, I have spent the last 3 weeks on SA. Have shortlisted 3 in Belgium and 3 in Germany. Based on the advice here, I kind of focused on college verified and younger ones. While I'm yet to meet any of them (kind of taking it slow due to pandemic and other personal situations), one lady in particular has been exchanging lot of messages with me. She is 34 but is looking for some sort of arrangement. Does not seem like she is expecting financial support but she seems to be a nice person. Will see when I meet her and check chemistry. If there is chemistry, I would love to fuck her. However, she seems to be very curious and asks a lot of questions (most if which I dodge, currently).

Any thoughts on getting into something like that with a 34 Y. O? I'm sure if I take it further she will poke around even more and I intend to keep myself as insulated as possible.

[Member #4703]

Are there bars to meet hookers or street hookers. In Lisbon or any other place in Portugal.

I don't want to waste my time on dating cause I am old.

Just looking around to hot girls is already good for me.

Elifanto is the biggest strip club in Lisbon.

[Retgilpo]

So finally was able to do the SA week in Lisbon and it was a pretty successful one after all the very helpful pointers from the experienced guys in this thread. FR posted in the Lisbon thread if anyone is interested.

Are there bars to meet hookers or street hookers. In Lisbon or any other place in Portugal.

I don't want to waste my time on dating cause I am old.

Just looking around to hot girls is already good for me.

[Gfefan]

Since my last post here, I have spent the last 3 weeks on SA. Have shortlisted 3 in Belgium and 3 in Germany. Based on the advice here, I kind of focused on college verified and younger ones. While I'm yet to meet any of them (kind of taking it slow due to pandemic and other personal situations), one lady in particular has been exchanging lot of messages with me. She is 34 but is looking for some sort of arrangement. Does not seem like she is expecting financial support but she seems to be a nice person. Will see when I meet her and check chemistry. If there is chemistry, I would love to fuck her. However, she seems to be very curious and asks a lot of questions (most if which I dodge, currently).

Any thoughts on getting into something like that with a 34 Y. O? I'm sure if I take it further she will poke around even more and I intend to keep myself as insulated as possible.

[MiamiBoy1]

How popular is SA in Rio? Or Tinder? Where do you find semi-pros or non-pros?

Population of Rio is almost 7 million, however pickings on SA are extra slim, no stunners. Most girls have not been active / online for days, does not make sense to even message them.

Not interested in hardcore pros or brothels / strip clubs, etc because I prefer regular dates that end at my apartment rather than "wham bam thank you ma'am" type of sessions.

[Gunners1]

Great advice.

As there is hardly any cash transaction I will not formally break up. Will just go a bit slow on her.

Thanks a lot.

G.

Last year, I got tired of one of my GF / SB. However, I never broke up with her. She would text me sometimes, and I would just say that I was busy.

Last month, while I was in a bit of a dry spell, she texted me out of the blue, and so we met up and had great sex. Since it had been a few months since the last time that I saw her, it felt like I was having sex with a new person, LOL.

So, why bother breaking up with anyone? Just do not see them when you do not feel like it, and if she ever finds out that you have other GFs and SBs, or if she gets tired of being ignored, then let her break up with you! Problem solved.

My philosophy is, never take an easy lay for granted, even if you get bored of it. Come to think of it, I probably have over a dozen GFs and SBs that I never broke up with. Many of these gals will still have sex with me, even if a year has lapsed since the last time I saw them. But if I broke up with them, then it may have been an ugly breakup and just as important I would also be eliminating an easy lay forever.

[Pessimist]

Last year, I got tired of one of my GF / SB. However, I never broke up with her. She would text me sometimes, and I would just say that I was busy.

Last month, while I was in a bit of a dry spell, she texted me out of the blue, and so we met up and had great sex. Since it had been a few months since the last time that I saw her, it felt like I was having sex with a new person, LOL.

So, why bother breaking up with anyone? Just do not see them when you do not feel like it, and if she ever finds out that you have other GFs and SBs, or if she gets tired of being ignored, then let her break up with you! Problem solved.

My philosophy is, never take an easy lay for granted, even if you get bored of it. Come to think of it, I probably have over a dozen GFs and SBs that I never broke up with. Many of these gals will still have sex with me, even if a year has lapsed since the last time I saw them. But if I broke up with them, then it may have been an ugly breakup and just as important I would also be eliminating an easy lay forever.

Agree. For god's sake, it is a quasi business deal at best. You can't break up business relationship. What does that even mean? Unless the guy and girl fool themselves into believing they are in a real relationship; however, if such a thing happens, you are no longer paying for it and you know it is no longer a SD / SB deal. If some sort of financial compensation is exchanged and expected, it is a SD / SB deal and it is a deal which can broken at any time by one of the two parties, just as at will employment can be terminated by either the employer or employee with minimal notice.

[Elvis 2008]

Last year, I got tired of one of my GF / SB. However, I never broke up with her. She would text me sometimes, and I would just say that I was busy.

Last month, while I was in a bit of a dry spell, she texted me out of the blue, and so we met up and had great sex. Since it had been a few months since the last time that I saw her, it felt like I was having sex with a new person, LOL.

So, why bother breaking up with anyone? Just do not see them when you do not feel like it, and if she ever finds out that you have other GFs and SBs, or if she gets tired of being ignored, then let her break up with you! Problem solved.

My philosophy is, never take an easy lay for granted, even if you get bored of it. Come to think of it, I probably have over a dozen GFs and SBs that I never broke up with. Many of these gals will still have sex with me, even if a year has lapsed since the last time I saw them. But if I broke up with them, then it may have been an ugly breakup and just as important I would also be eliminating an easy lay forever.

LOL. MW, it is fine if you do not want to break up with them. Thing is that getting back with a SB for anything more than sex is a disaster. Twice, I got back with two girls not just one time but twice. First girl was stunning. Great voice, great skin, great head, very vocal in bed, smart, and a lying ***** of a thief. I got back with her after she swore that she did not steal from me. So I got back with her, and the ***** stole me from me again!! Hell of a fuck though. It was almost worth it.

Other one entered a Facebook contest or something like that and won. She was hot too, charming, cheerleader kind of way, and tight, shit was she tight. She really liked me. We were out at this expensive resort and it was abandoned and we had a hot make out and grind session outside in the pool. Whew! She was really into it. Thing with her is that she was relentless when it came to getting money. There was no fucking off switch, and time after time, I would give in until I got pissed off and broke it off. When I got back with her the last time, I was like, "She is so pretty and nice, I was stupid to break up with her. " After that third time, I was like, "Now you remember? Elvis, you dumb ass."

So yeah, you do not have to break it off, and it is fine just banging an old flame, but giving a girl a second chance beyond casual sex has never worked for me.