Seeking Arrangements

[Elvis 2008]

Would 3 be better than 2? Last month, I took Nancy and Flo to Cancun and had the time of my life. I had gone to Colombia and dealt with the lockdowns and had two women, Maria and the woman of my dreams, I would shuttle back and forth to Cancun.

I thought maybe having 3 would be better than 2 so I added Maria from Bogota who was giddy about going to Cancun. She got her passport the day before the trip and I met her in Bogota and was worried that we would have trouble with customs but even though there were ten total check points in Colombia and Mexico, she was amazing, and we sailed through.

At this point, it is just Maria and me, and we drive down to a beach in Cancun. She runs to the beach: loud squeals, huge smile, a clothed woman running into the seaweed drenched beach without a care in the world. Pure joy. After a bit, I tell Maria we now have to pick up Nancy at the airport.

I go to pick up Nancy, and look everywhere and cannot see her. She taps me on the back and I turn around and smile at her. There she is, the hyperactive, insatiable sex addict who eats twice her 100 lb body weight daily with long heels, an umbrella, and quaint hat. She smiles at me and says in her wonderful Mexican accent, "I am Mary Poppins. " I give her a big hug and kiss and say with a laugh, "No, honey, you LOOK like Mary Poppins. " Then I wonder, "Has anyone done a Mary Poppins porn ripoff?

She gets in the car and I introduce her to Maria. They start talking Spanish and it is so fast I cannot pick it up. Big laughs. Instant chemistry. Nancy formed a whatsapp group with me, her, and Flo and called it Modern Family, and Nancy quickly added Maria. Of course, I wonder what they are laughing about. Could it be me and my sexual inadequacies? Yeah, probably.

We decide to go to a cenote, the wonderful swimming holes throughout the Yucutan, and Nancy screams I am hungry. They have a food stand at the cenote and Nancy gets cheese quesadillas and peppers them with hot sauce. Colombian cuisine does not have spicy food, and Maria takes a bite and even though she is half negra, her face turns red, and she begs for some water and drinks damned near a gallon of it. Nancy then asks, "Mas quesadillas?

We get in the water and it is wonderful. There is a big cliff probably 8 or 10 feet high to jump into the water. Nancy is dying to jump on it, and I tell her we will do the smaller cliff first and work our way up. Maria is quiet. She says that she will take our photo and not jump. So we get up to the big cliff, and Nancy says, "Tu primero!" Me first? I take satisfaction knowing that if I die at least she will starve to death.

I do a cannonball, and because I hit the water right, the dive is pain free. Nancy is right behind. Big laughs as she comes to the surface, and she starts splashing me. We get to the other side of the cenote, and Maria shows us our picture and then tells us she cannot swim. Nancy then gets all serious and says "I am teacher. " Nancy is the oldest in her family and has two brothers, and she is a great teacher. The cenote is mostly shallow and only deep in spots and it is a perfect place to learn. 30 minutes later, Nancy has Maria diving under the water and floating on her back. An hour later, Maria is jumping off the taller cliff.

There is one secluded cavern in Cenote Azul. Maria is the first to follow me there and we start kissing and she grabs junior under the water. The usual dick shrinkage now becomes extension. We call Nancy over. Nancy sees what we are doing and gives a devilish grin and dives under the water to give me head. It only lasts 15 seconds, but I had my first underwater blowjob!

We get out of the water and now go to pick up Flo. Nancy jumps out of the car and gives Flo a big hug, and I was hoping I would see some French kissing between them but it was not meant to be.

There are three rooms in the Airbnb apartment and Nancy quickly picks out the king sized bed and wants to sleep with me. Sigh. Is this going to be a problem I wonder? Will I get any sleep?

We go to dinner at Don Sirloin as I read they have some of the best tacos al pastor in the Cancun area. Maria is hesitant but I insist on ordering for her and she screams with delight with the tacos. Flo and I order four tacos apiece and Nancy does six and finishes off all the spares. The alcohol flows and there is mescal, margaritas, and tequila to burn.

We go back to the apartment, and Nancy and Maria scream to show me the bed. They are both twerking on it and laughing. Stereo twerking? However, I am tired. I soon lay down and fall to sleep. After what seems like hours, Nancy wakes me up. "One more time?" she asks and proceeds to fuck and suck the hell out of me. Thoughtfully, she left me on my back and did all the work. It is good being the daddy.

We were supposed to head to Xcaret on Sunday, but it was closed so we went to the ruins of Coba. The large temple that I had previously climbed is shut down because of Covid I guess. I silently was thankful as I thought the women could have easily lapped me.

That morning, I attempted Nancy's workout and it nearly killed me. You think you can do what you did at 21 like Nancy until you actually try it. Then I tried Flo's more "mellow" yoga routine and I laughed as joints and parts of my spine popped that I did not know could pop.

It was hot at Coba and when we were done with our tour, we decided to go to a different cenote and cool off with a swim. Flo picked one where we could dive from cliffs into the water. In the beginning, the cenote was packed due to a tour bus, but the bus left and slowly the crowd thinned until just the four of us remained. Flo was getting up the courage to do a jump when Maria swam over to me. I had my back in the water and my feet up on the rocks and Maria says "So you do not like me anymore?" She then pulled junior out of my swimsuit and started blowing me. Nancy giggled and indicated she wanted to play and now I had Nancy on the right and Maria licking on the left. I wondered. Has anyone done a porn movie in a cenote?

We get back to the airBNB and talk about dinner, and Maria has never had lobster. We go to a swanky place, and the three girls get the lobster, and I get pizza con langosta, pizza with lobster. I was not in the mood to work for my food by cutting open a lobster but OMG was that pizza good! There is a combination of sausage, olives, and lobster that just flows. Every bite is pure heaven. I give the girls a taste, and they confess to me that I got the best dish.

At dinner, all the girls ordered wine, but I got a Coke, and it was the best kind: sugar instead of HFCS and in the bottle. When the girls went to do a toast, I poured my Coke into the glass, sniffed it, twirled it, inspected it, and then did the toast. I sipped it then. Very nice, I thought. I looked at the bottle and saw it was stamped April 2021, an excellent vintage.

We go back to the apartment and Maria insists on sleeping with me. She gives me the great head I love from her, and she rides me. I then get on top of her and finish in missionary where we cum together. She then tells me, "You know daddy, I really like it up the ass. I have a very tight ass. " Uh, good to know, I tell her.

The next day we went to Xcaret and we snorkel which is again something Maria has not done, and she loves it. We are in the water for about two hours snorkeling and Maria screams, "I am hungry. " We then go to the all you can eat buffet included with our tickets. I had planned for us to do the river swim but it is too late now. One of the girls comes back and says that the sea trek, a way to go 6 feet deep down in the water and walk with a scuba type device is still available. The salt water had drained me, but I paid for the girls to go, and they loved it.

The Xcaret Mexican Spectacular show really is amazing, and that was our last stop. I had seen it before but was eager to see it again. The show lasted 2 hours but this time it flew by. At first there was a history of Mexico and then there was the song and dance of each region of Mexico. Despite the narrow seating area, Flo and Nancy got into the performance and sang and danced along with the Mexican performances in the stands. It was nearing the end of the show and I told the women to get their cameras ready and shoot video. The ending has a string of parrots flying around the stadium and has to be seen to be believed. The women were in tears at the beauty (that or they were thinking that they had to sex with me later). It could have been either.

Maria gave me a huge kiss and told me that this trip had changed her life. Nancy and Flo told me that this was one of the best days of their lives and when we got back to the apartment, they decided they were going to show their appreciation.

They spent an hour getting all dolled up: Nancy in Red, Maria in white, and Flo in black, and they did a dance routine. They teased me and asked, "Can you handle three beautiful women?" I wanted to say, "Of course not. Didn't you see me try to do yoga? But I was fortified by the blue pill and took them on one at a time. Nancy had confessed wanting a threesome with Maria so I instructed all of them to kiss and go down on one another. Flo, being the oldest, started first, and even though she is 32, she rode me hard. I asked her if she got off and she said she did, but I was not sure.

Maria was next, the second oldest, and she was riding junior hard and bucking like a stallion. There was no doubt she got off as she squirted. Nancy was next, and she went at it as hard as Maria. I think there may have been a competition as Nancy fucked me as hard as Maria did and even though she had only squirted with me once before, Nancy let out a gusher, and the couch was soaked.

I thought to myself, "Oh fuck, there goes the Airbnb deposit."

I had another round with each, finished inside of Nancy and snuck off to bed. I suspect the women played with themselves later into the evening.

We went to Isla Mujeres our last day. The ferry from Cancun got us there in 15 minutes. We rented a golf cart and got around the whole island in around 3 hours. We settled on playa norte and ordered food. The beach may have been my favorite in Cancun: white sand, not much seaweed, and a great view of the city. We ate and drank, jumped and rode waves, splashed each other, and laughed and laughed. I doubt anyone in the world was having more fun than we were that day.

It was the last night, and I really had not spent as much time with Flo. In Modern Family terms, Flo was the mom and Nancy and Maria were the daughters so I decided to fuck the wife really good the last night of the trip.

Flo had been through a lot. Unlike the other women, she had gotten through school and had a job, but she quit it and wanted to stay in the Cancun area. She said the rents were too high in Monterrey and the dog-eat-dog world of Monterrey she described reminded me of the USA. Monterrey is really the most American of all the big cities in Mexico, and she thought moving to the laid back Cancun region would be best for her. The good part is that there were a lot of help wanted signs up in the Cancun area.

So she was stressed, and I started massaging her arms and back. We kissed, and Flo had told me she was not interested in having a boyfriend. I got the impression that Flo had not been sexually active for a while and after kissing her, it was very hard to get junior inside of her. With the help of lube, I got in and she was tight. I was not going to last long and asked between her moans, "Is it okay if I cum now?" and she said in a very serious tone, "No!" So I held my cum for another 10 or 15 minutes and now I got the sound, smell, and shaking of a woman really having multiple orgasms. I finally finished and she hugged the stuffing out of me and said in the sweetest voice she could, "I love you, baby", and I knew she meant it.

Thing is that I had told Flo and Nancy the night before that Modern Family may have come to an end. I had met the woman of my dreams from Colombia the week before, and I had told them that this might be our last adventure. Flo and Nancy understood and wished me well. They said if I had found love, I had to give it my all.

With Maria, it was tougher to take. She had flown into Mexico and had seen all that it had to offer. She had gotten to calling Flo and Nancy her sisters and my finding the woman of my dreams may have cut her off from her new friends and freedom.

Flo asked for help with an apartment, and I paid for an Airbnb for her for a week. Nancy said she would stay for the week as well, and Maria, who was supposed to leave the same day I did, changed her ticket and snuck in to stay with them as well. Given Colombia is in lockdown, I cannot say I blame her. As of now, they are still down there and I am sure having a ball. I wonder if they are taking applications now for a new daddy to lead the family.

I thought that three would be better than two as two seemed to always be better than one. The truth is that the right one was best of all. As for three being better than two, outside of meals, we were usually split up anyway. Maria and Nancy became such good friends they often separated from me and Flo. When it was just me with Nancy and Flo, the three of us were always together.

And then there were the expenses. When you compare feeding, housing, and entertaining three versus two, the fun does not go up with the expenses so in that sense it was not worth it.

There were a few times that treating them equally also got to be a bit of an expense. Maria needed a new suitcase and somehow I had to buy three versus the one I intended to.

Still, when you consider we were together four days together, I gave them very little money directly. For the guys who ask me "how much? I always say do not mention price. You define the woman as a ho and yourself as a john.

Almost every single woman I know in their 20's wants to travel, have fun, and party, and if you can be a good party planner and director, you can have these women eating out of your hand. I did not plan the foursome the night after Xcaret, the women did, and they did out of friendship, appreciation, and love and not for money. I would be shocked if these women did not have dozens of friends asking if they could come along if we had a new adventure.

So while the answer to my question of 3 being better than 2 was not yes, I can say the experiment in answering that question was a helluva lot of fun.

Maybe if things do not work out between myself and the woman of my dreams, I will have a new question to answer. Is 4 better than 3? It has to be. Right?

[NapataJohn]

I use SA off an on before trips and it works great. Need to move PPM talk to whatsapp else you will be reported / blocked etc if the the lady is in a bad mood.

[Midwestern]

Thank you all. I spent the last two weeks reading through all the pages here and now I think I have a good handle of do's and don'ts.

Taking the plunge now. Will keep posted how it goes.

P. S: As soon as I made the payment, my account was suspended. Has reached out to their customer service. Wonder if anyone else faced similar issue.

My account is also suspended. I was using a VPN when I tried to reactivate my account. I wonder if using a VPN has something to do with it. Where are you, and did you use VPN?

[Oneminuteboy]

Bear with me. My last experience is 6 months ago.

1. How is the scene in Europe? I live in Luxembourg. So, neighboring border areas of Germany, France, Belgium, Netherlands are easy.

I found it pretty good in Europe, price wise.

There are definitely some countries where they are more upfront about sex (Portugal, Spain) than others (Netherlands).

My experience with the Netherlands was that they were hesitant when I mentioned "some fun". And wanted a fee just for a first meeting.

Prague also had some lovely ladies who made it clear some compensation would always be required.

2. What are some tips you pros would recommend?

Go with a pay per meet at start. Other this, check the thread.

3. Are there any specific pitfalls I should be aware of? Particularly, how do you spot time wasters / baiters?

Try to move the conversation to a chat app and be clear to her what you want. And what you are willing to spend. Avoid those that want payment ahead of time. Or those that want payment for just a introduction meet.

For other pitfalls, read the thread.

4. Lastly, if I do find a good fit (let's say a Girl next door type who is not a WG), what are your thoughts on considering engaging without protection?

I personally don't go further than BBBJ. Though some went a step further with bareback. Again, read the thread what people did.

[Steve 9696]

ISG Wise Men: my normal jam is the escort scene. Thinking to take plunge on SA, honestly just to have a less transactional experience. Been on this thread a while. A few questions I'd love some sage input on.

1. I'm not looking for a commitment (monthly stipend to girl). I am looking to show a girl a good time for a day (nice restaurants and such) and bang end of night. And then move on. Will that be received badly? Like are SA girls more just looking for a stipend?

2. Looking in Tijuana. Maybe San Diego. Anyone know the scene there?

3. Is the right way to do this to pick a few and message, or do a blast-out spray and' pray?

4. How much risk, in your experience, girl says after dinner but before hotel "thanks for the great night. I'm out." Is it crass to say you're looking for some hotel time in your chat before?

Go back a few pages here and you will find my Newbie guide. Pretty much covers how to do it. In regards to your first question the monthly thing is really for the movies and what the press talks about. Nearly 100% of girls will do short time single night or two visits. Even girls who say "seeking long term only" if I dig their look I say "Hey I know you are looking for long term and I respect that. But if you would entertain a couple nights of awesomeness I am coming to town week xxx". I've had almost 100% success with those "long term only" girls responding that they'the like to talk more and maybe meetup.

[AmericanPi]

ISG Wise Men: my normal jam is the escort scene. Thinking to take plunge on SA, honestly just to have a less transactional experience. Been on this thread a while. A few questions I'd love some sage input on.

1. I'm not looking for a commitment (monthly stipend to girl). I am looking to show a girl a good time for a day (nice restaurants and such) and bang end of night. And then move on. Will that be received badly? Like are SA girls more just looking for a stipend?

2. Looking in Tijuana. Maybe San Diego. Anyone know the scene there?

3. Is the right way to do this to pick a few and message, or do a blast-out spray and' pray?

4. How much risk, in your experience, girl says after dinner but before hotel "thanks for the great night. I'm out." Is it crass to say you're looking for some hotel time in your chat before?

[Gfefan]

Totally spot on advice and comments! Agree with everything that you wrote..

Thank you all. I spent the last two weeks reading through all the pages here and now I think I have a good handle of do's and don'ts.

Taking the plunge now. Will keep posted how it goes.

P. S: As soon as I made the payment, my account was suspended. Has reached out to their customer service. Wonder if anyone else faced similar issue.

[Midwestern]

Totally spot on advice and comments! Agree with everything that you wrote.

1. I think prices are pretty decent in Europe and quality is good. I don't have specific experience in Luxembourg or all the countries you mentioned, but that is my general experience in EU.

I would suggest however that you should browse seeking re: how many girls are present in each place and city you are targeting.

Seeking is not the only sugar site. It is great in US and many other countries but depending on city, there may be other sugar sites with better, more diverse selections.

2 and 3 - too many to list, and change from girl to girl. If you have your wits about you and are experienced in life, you will figure them out quickly.

4. How can anyone answer this question? When you fuck a girl w / o a condom you run some risks, no need to list them here. No one can tell you if those risks are worth taking. Only you would know your risk tolerance (unless you are coming here for reassurance from people you don't even know).

General tips: Don't send money to any person you never met, even if that girl looks ravishing in photos and promises all kinds of goodies. Don't discuss sex and money in seeking or in texts. If the girl is willing to have sex, you will sense that quickly and if the girl is not willing to have sex, she will say so as well. Finally, keep your expectations grounded, don't think you will have copious amounts of sex with supermodel type girls for a hundred bucks etc. , and be prepared for catfishing, no-shows, frauds and cheats, other nasty surprises; it is a long slog and you will need a lot of patience.

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[Pessimist]

I'm thinking of entering the seeking.com scene. Some of my questions below are therefore novice. Please bear with me.

1. How is the scene in Europe? I live in Luxembourg. So, neighboring border areas of Germany, France, Belgium, Netherlands are easy.

2. What are some tips you pros would recommend?

3. Are there any specific pitfalls I should be aware of? Particularly, how do you spot time wasters / baiters?

4. Lastly, if I do find a good fit (let's say a Girl next door type who is not a WG), what are your thoughts on considering engaging without protection?

Many thanks for your guidance / help.

1. I think prices are pretty decent in Europe and quality is good. I don't have specific experience in Luxembourg or all the countries you mentioned, but that is my general experience in EU.

I would suggest however that you should browse seeking re: how many girls are present in each place and city you are targeting.

Seeking is not the only sugar site. It is great in US and many other countries but depending on city, there may be other sugar sites with better, more diverse selections.

2 and 3 - too many to list, and change from girl to girl. If you have your wits about you and are experienced in life, you will figure them out quickly.

4. How can anyone answer this question? When you fuck a girl w / o a condom you run some risks, no need to list them here. No one can tell you if those risks are worth taking. Only you would know your risk tolerance (unless you are coming here for reassurance from people you don't even know).

General tips: Don't send money to any person you never met, even if that girl looks ravishing in photos and promises all kinds of goodies. Don't discuss sex and money in seeking or in texts. If the girl is willing to have sex, you will sense that quickly and if the girl is not willing to have sex, she will say so as well. Finally, keep your expectations grounded, don't think you will have copious amounts of sex with supermodel type girls for a hundred bucks etc. , and be prepared for catfishing, no-shows, frauds and cheats, other nasty surprises; it is a long slog and you will need a lot of patience.

[DonCarlos1234]

What am I selling with these women on Cancun (or PDC) anaggie, is a great time. Only places in the world I have been to that compare fun wise with the Cancun area are Orlando and Singapore (Yes, Singapore is a ball). What are you offering them? Money, and that is not what you want to do not with Cancun.

I keep telling guys to quit with the john-hooker attitude especially in the sugar daddy arena. The money for sex thing is transactional and safe but it is also sterile. The emphasis should be about improving the woman's life and not just throwing money at them. What I tell the sugar baby prospects is when we are together, we are together and when we are apart, we apart. I cannot control if you see other men and you cannot control if I see other women so let's not worry about that. My goal for you is to make me feel better in the moment and my goal with you is to give you a better life. I am going to do what you need but maybe not what you want.

I totally agree! And I am not far behind you. It may be a little warm in June, Is there a 2nd best MX travel option?

[DonCarlos1234]

IMO guys in LA should flog the log during the week, hop on the train to Tijuana on the weekends, and have a ball there. $500 can score you 5 (or more) different women on the weekend.

You could not pay me $500 to have sex in California with a woman there. No fucking way!

In the 60"s there was "free love" ? Today If that other Elvis was alive, imagine the lawsuits. Probably over 1,000. And Frank Sinatra LOL Yes Tijuana is a bargain. So crowded last few days, like wild animals let out of their cages. (sex prison).

[Midwestern]

Midwestern, I believe you have been in China for awhile. I don't think I would recommend going to the apartment of a Latin American girl you barely know with cash. Even if you throw out the concern of theft, there are jealous boyfriends or the frumpy roommate in the next room.

Now I have been to the apartments of Brazilian escorts. However, they have been well-reviewed and live in nice neighborhoods.

Hiya Wyatt:

Actually, I was referring the United States. When I was active on SA, I ended up going to over a dozen girls' homes. And I will tell you something, it was scary as shit, LOL. Of course, I wouldn't just go to their homes the first time straightaway. We would meet in a bar or restaurant, and then later we would go back to her place. However, every time that I did this, before I entered her apartment, I would jot down her apartment number and address and text it to someone (or pretend to text it to someone). I would tell the girl that I am doing this in case I disappear, and she would either chuckle, or say that she understood and that it was a good idea.

This reminds me of one time when the girl invited me over to her place on our 2nd date. She actually had a nice home, which was something that she got in a divorce. Anyway, that night, it was snowing. As I walked up to her front door, I noticed huge boot prints that were very fresh. I panicked, because maybe there was a huge guy waiting to rob me. But this girl had such great big tits, that I decided it was worth the risk. How stupid was that? But I got rewarded for my risk taking.

But I agree with you that it is risky and that everyone needs to exercise caution. As for Latin Americans, I don't have a thing for them. Every person that I dated on SA were white Americans. I have boring tastes.

[WyattEarp]

Other than chemistry and physical appearance, probably my next most important criteria for an SB is if she can host. I often brought this up at the meet and greet. But eventually, it was one of the first questions that I asked when we started texting. Man, when an SB cannot host, it racks up the costs and the inconvenience.

I was thinking about this today when I visited my favorite pro at her apartment. As an aside, she has a new roommate, and so we had her join the fun. Just nice being able to show up and then leave.

Midwestern, I believe you have been in China for awhile. I don't think I would recommend going to the apartment of a Latin American girl you barely know with cash. Even if you throw out the concern of theft, there are jealous boyfriends or the frumpy roommate in the next room.

Now I have been to the apartments of Brazilian escorts. However, they have been well-reviewed and live in nice neighborhoods.

[Midwestern]

Most of your questions have been answered in depth and in detail in this thread. You might start from the very beginning to get some basic answers, and then look for Steve's excellent guide for noobs. After that, you should skim the rest of the thread, as lots of posters from all over the world have provided excellent suggestions. Lots of Europeans on here too. Spending a few hours reading this thread will definitely pay off. Good luck!

I'm thinking of entering the seeking.com scene. Some of my questions below are therefore novice. Please bear with me.

1. How is the scene in Europe? I live in Luxembourg. So, neighboring border areas of Germany, France, Belgium, Netherlands are easy.

2. What are some tips you pros would recommend?

3. Are there any specific pitfalls I should be aware of? Particularly, how do you spot time wasters / baiters?

4. Lastly, if I do find a good fit (let's say a Girl next door type who is not a WG), what are your thoughts on considering engaging without protection?

Many thanks for your guidance / help.

[Gfefan]

I'm thinking of entering the seeking.com scene. Some of my questions below are therefore novice. Please bear with me.

1. How is the scene in Europe? I live in Luxembourg. So, neighboring border areas of Germany, France, Belgium, Netherlands are easy.

2. What are some tips you pros would recommend?

3. Are there any specific pitfalls I should be aware of? Particularly, how do you spot time wasters / baiters?

4. Lastly, if I do find a good fit (let's say a Girl next door type who is not a WG), what are your thoughts on considering engaging without protection?

Many thanks for your guidance / help.