Since we have new folks joining the group here, thought my newbie guide might help. This is primarily in the USA, though I did Argentina and UK with similar approach. And this was written for fly-in and may need adjustment for hometown game. Others who have done more pro / liberal destinations like MDE or MTY may want to augment.
So how do you do it properly? I suppose this could vary widely depending on what you are after. But I am after a girl who FEELS like a girlfriend. She's affectionate, appreciates an evening above her usual stature in life, and is able to actually enjoy herself with you. She views the allowance / gift (I. E. Money!) as a bonus. Not the only thing she is after. Any girl where I feel money is the primary motivation and she will go with anyone for a high enough price, gets kicked straight to the curb. She's got to be a girlfriend first, and benefit second.
Knowing that this is the kind of girl I want to attract (and other guys I have talked to also find this persona the most attractive) there is a set of rules you chave to play by. Understand that SA is NOT AT ALL like picking up hookers. It is much more like meeting a girl into a bar and seducing her to leave with you. It's just an online bar. Sure you need money, but you also need some distance game and you need to treat her with respect. If you do, you have a chance of closing the deal. However, the moment you disrespect her, she will be gone.
Most importantly, never discuss sex or money. These things will be implied and they will be done offline. Never discuss sex or money on SA and really never discuss sex at all. As soon as you are that explicit, the kind of girl you are after will feel disrespected and ghost you in no time flat.
Love the fact that you are sharing # $$$ here. I would use this as a reference in Dubai as well. Talked to a MILF and she is like pay me 400 bucks for a lunch meet. I'm like. I'm famous too! Haha JK.
Had a girl lay it out for me the other night. We had a nice chat. Planned a meetup. Finally get around to cost and I say $350. She says she only does $900. That she can make way more in the club. And there it is. She's a dancer. They make tons of money grinding on guys and giving blue balls. Why they going to fuck you for $300? They can get that in a half hour grinding at the club. Sigh. So entitled.
Steve,
I'm not sure you literally meant strippers make $300 in a half hour. Sure, top strippers in top clubs can pull down huge cash. For many, there's less money and a lot of downtime.
My opinion strippers can rationalize grinding on strange guy's dicks, but many cannot actually rationalize fucking someone in a transactional nature. We also all know the mindset "I won't fuck a guy for money" when offered $300. How about $1,000? "Well, that's different."
With your skills, you can probably befriend a stripper and promise to wine and dine her with some cash at the end. Of course, SA is probably easier and more efficient than trying to screen strippers.
Thanks for posting this, Cane. This is a good reminder that everyone needs to be careful when bringing up money or sex with an SB. For example, you should never mention money or sex on any text messages.
Quotes from the NY Times article:
One of the sites the men met women through was called Seeking Arrangement, which describes itself as a place where wealthy people find attractive companions and pamper them "with fine dinners, exotic trips and allowances. " The site's founder has said it has 20 million members worldwide. The F. Be. I. Mentioned the website in a conversation with at least one potential witness, according to a person familiar with the conversation.
It is not illegal to provide adults with free hotel stays, meals and other gifts, but if prosecutors think they can prove that the payments to the women were for sex, they could accuse Mr. Gaetz of trafficking the women under "force, fraud or coercion. ".
Thanks for the clarification. I read the article really fast, and clearly skipped over the specific mention of Seeking Arrangement. This guy was also stupid in that he was openly sharing his "conquests" and entrusted somebody else who ultimately got busted, which led to him. I had a wingman one time who turned out to be a drunk and a fuck up. Never again!
It would appear that Mr. Gaetz and colleague are caught up in a Seeking Arrangement type of scandal. I say "type" since it isn't clear that SA was the medium used. But so far, the facts scream "sugar babies"!
Thanks for posting this, Cane. This is a good reminder that everyone needs to be careful when bringing up money or sex with an SB. For example, you should never mention money or sex on any text messages.
Quotes from the NY Times article:
One of the sites the men met women through was called Seeking Arrangement, which describes itself as a place where wealthy people find attractive companions and pamper them "with fine dinners, exotic trips and allowances. " The site's founder has said it has 20 million members worldwide. The F. Be. I. Mentioned the website in a conversation with at least one potential witness, according to a person familiar with the conversation.
It is not illegal to provide adults with free hotel stays, meals and other gifts, but if prosecutors think they can prove that the payments to the women were for sex, they could accuse Mr. Gaetz of trafficking the women under "force, fraud or coercion. ".
There are plenty of latina casas in LA County so I don't see why you have to drive to Tijuana.
Well, I was thinking about having a sugar baby for a weekend and getting one from a club not just banging someone there. That would be 48 hours of pleasure.
Also, I have driven LA to SD and it sucked. Maybe traffic is down post Covid but I have never seen highways become parking lots like California. But there was one time I took a train from LA to Tijuana, and it was great. There was beautiful scenery, and the time flew. I would do that again in a second but driving? Bleech! Forget it.
She is asking for $100 for a non-sex meetup. Guaranteed. Run away. Hard and fast. That's the problem with upfront gifts. If they can get stuff for free essentially doing nothing they aren't going to fuck you for $300.
Had a girl lay it out for me the other night. We had a nice chat. Planned a meetup. Finally get around to cost and I say $350. She says she only does $900. That she can make way more in the club. And there it is. She's a dancer. They make tons of money grinding on guys and giving blue balls. Why they going to fuck you for $300? They can get that in a half hour grinding at the club. Sigh. So entitled.
Latina casas in LA? Do tell (u can PM me or WhatsApp me as I assume this needs to stay on the downlow).
I countered asking her for a massage. No reply. Another one lost in the cloud.
It would appear that Mr. Gaetz and colleague are caught up in a Seeking Arrangement type of scandal. I say "type" since it isn't clear that SA was the medium used. But so far, the facts scream "sugar babies"!
I used to go to them all the time in the 1990's. You can read El Classificado. There used to be a few around Firestone and Atlantic in South Gate. Look for the one's in East LOS Angeles.
Five hours round trip travel time for two 30 minute relations does not seem worth it to me either. I am trying to cultivate a regular who relatively low mileage. Today is two weeks after my final covid shot so I ready to wade into the pool again. Except for I have a consulting assignment for three months so I won't be traveling until June or July.
I let my seeking subscription lapse. So if I can't hook up with these last two I will try other avenues. There are plenty of latina casas in LA County so I don't see why you have to drive to Tijuana.
She asked for $100 for a meetup so I don't know what she has in mind. Probably not sex. $100 means she is not that experienced. The others have hit me up for a much higher number. Now she appears to have ghosted me as she is not returning texts as I hint at more. Maybe she is thinking about it.
She is asking for $100 for a non-sex meetup. Guaranteed. Run away. Hard and fast. That's the problem with upfront gifts. If they can get stuff for free essentially doing nothing they aren't going to fuck you for $300.
Had a girl lay it out for me the other night. We had a nice chat. Planned a meetup. Finally get around to cost and I say $350. She says she only does $900. That she can make way more in the club. And there it is. She's a dancer. They make tons of money grinding on guys and giving blue balls. Why they going to fuck you for $300? They can get that in a half hour grinding at the club. Sigh. So entitled.
Latina casas in LA? Do tell (u can PM me or WhatsApp me as I assume this needs to stay on the downlow).
Yeah, I have had that with stripper type SBs three times. They like to pay back their friends. Usually though the friends are better looking and better in the sack than the SB because they want to impress.
I will say with women whenever one of them says it is okay, they all follow.
Yes, exactly, the new gal in the threesome always tries to impress. And yes, when the SB vouches for you to her friends, her friends will be fully on board.
I actually got done with work early yesterday and decided to go for the threesome. But her friend wasn't that cute and her body wasn't that good.
Afterwards, I sent a message to my gal, asking if I could use her place to bang pros. But she said no way.
One of the best situations that I've ever been in was a couple of years ago, I was pretty good friends with a pro, and she let me use her apartment whenever I wanted, to bang other outcall pros. I just gave her $30 or $45 for letting me use the apartment every time. Man, that was great.
She sent her modeling photos last night. I was slightly disappointed that she is already heavily tattooed. I am not really a tattoo person. She could easily lose 10 to 15 pounds. She is willing to do more modeling. I sent her a text this morning to see if she would want to meet up. I am trying for 300.
She asked for $100 for a meetup so I don't know what she has in mind. Probably not sex. $100 means she is not that experienced. The others have hit me up for a much higher number. Now she appears to have ghosted me as she is not returning texts as I hint at more. Maybe she is thinking about it.
BBM, outside of the first one, I see much better at Hong Kong in Tijuana. I really did not try to play sugar daddy with any of the women there because Tijuana is so far from where I live, but I think some would be receptive to it. Women fly in from all over Mexico to Tijuana. I met one from Puerto Vallarta for example who was hot. I do not think she would have been down for an arrangement in Tijuana but in PV, I think I could have gotten her (even bare) for not too much. We had good chemistry.
Is the reason you are not traveling because of Covid? If you are nearing 70, you can get the vaccine and two weeks after your second dose, you are good to go.
I am not judging or telling you what to do. I just hate to see a guy paying what you are paying and not getting the value for it.
Five hours round trip travel time for two 30 minute relations does not seem worth it to me either. I am trying to cultivate a regular who relatively low mileage. Today is two weeks after my final covid shot so I ready to wade into the pool again. Except for I have a consulting assignment for three months so I won't be traveling until June or July.
I let my seeking subscription lapse. So if I can't hook up with these last two I will try other avenues. There are plenty of latina casas in LA County so I don't see why you have to drive to Tijuana.
All in all, I hope to stop playing in LA and start traveling again.
BBM, outside of the first one, I see much better at Hong Kong in Tijuana. I really did not try to play sugar daddy with any of the women there because Tijuana is so far from where I live, but I think some would be receptive to it. Women fly in from all over Mexico to Tijuana. I met one from Puerto Vallarta for example who was hot. I do not think she would have been down for an arrangement in Tijuana but in PV, I think I could have gotten her (even bare) for not too much. We had good chemistry.
Is the reason you are not traveling because of Covid? If you are nearing 70, you can get the vaccine and two weeks after your second dose, you are good to go.
I am not judging or telling you what to do. I just hate to see a guy paying what you are paying and not getting the value for it.
She sent her modeling photos last night. I was slightly disappointed that she is already heavily tattooed. I am not really a tattoo person. She could easily lose 10 to 15 pounds. She is willing to do more modeling. I sent her a text this morning to see if she would want to meet up. I am trying for 300.