Seeking Arrangements

[ItsMark]

Created a profile.

I used a green dot visa prepaid card and I never registered it.

I entered in a fake name and address.

As soon as I hit enter to submit to charge the card it said account suspended.

So where did I mess up?

I wonder if they too my money?

I don't want any of my personal information on their site.

Last year, I went through the same issue, 2-3 times. Each time my account got suspended, I emailed the support team to reinstate the account, which they promptly did.

They asked me to try some other payment options / modes, but I did not want to share my personal info either. So gave up trying to upgrade.

A month ago, I tried again with the same credit card and was able to upgrade my membership without any hassle. So not really sure why it blocked me last year, but I guess you could wait for a few weeks and try again.

[Steve 9696]

Most guys post that in LOS Angeles the prices are $500 or lower. For me the hottest women are over $500.

The first example is an actress with over 20 IMDB credits. Her mother is actually quite famous in another country. When production shut down, she was offering to do massage on SA. The massage was $250 including UBER. She did not have a car. At the end of the massage, we began to do french kisses and intimate caresses. She said that she was not prepared to do sex on this date. Her price for sex was $600. She recently posted on Instagram that she was pregnant. If you follow the timeline, she was already with this guy when she was still on Seeking.

The second example is a divorcee. She also advertised herself as a masseuse. For sex, she wanted $600. I asked if she could role play being submissive. She replied that she could be very obedient for $1200.

The third example is a model. She was a Brazilian playmate in 2016. She also does not have a car. I offered her $300 plus expenses. She replied that she can't have sex for $300. "It's my job". So I don't know what she actually charges. I asked her if she was on birth control and she said "No".

These women are all 26 and older. I think that they would know their way around a bedroom.

These numbers don't really surprise me. First, there are girls that will ask $800 or $1000 regardless and I guess there are guys that pay that. But also I think prices have gone up substantially over the last year or so in the US. Other than Newbies I've been hard pressed to find a local girl who will take less than $400. And in Miami I def struggled to find hot girls for less than $500 which was a surprise to me. And even at $500 you have to compromise a bit — hard to get the full face body personality package for $500 in Miami. Crazy I know!

Anyhow I think prices have gone up. It's tough to save a buck in the US right now.

[Mongerer88]

Yes, great thoughts.

I have the same frustration with the many ISG guys who diss all independent and agency escorts because once in 2015 the person who showed up at the door in a random country wasn't exactly as depicted in the pictures. There are thousands of SA ads and experiences. Why would someone believe the entire SA scene should be dismissed because there may be a different guy / girl ratio than advertised?

The numbers above are likely all true. It's also true it only takes one willing girl (or two or three). Everyone's just playing the numbers game. It's kind of like dating life. 90-95% of the attractive girls won't have interest in you, but you hit up that one girl with the right approach at the right time. Bam! You're a winner.

From what I have heard, many of the guys on SA are lurkers or they just want to chat up young girls on-line. So lots of men and women on SA wasting each other's time.

I have no reason to build-up Steve, MW, DF and others providing valuable advice here. I've been following them during this COVID period. They seem to be able to greatly improve their odds. Simple guidance like SA is far better outside the USA And Steve painstakingly takes you through his methods of screening, seduction and persuasion..

[CarloRogue]

The two that I am currently chatting with on WhatsApp. We discussed all the expectations and agreed before we settled in a price. I have done this with girls in Brazil so I kinda have a feeling when the girl isn't going to work out. Plus. I expect them to continue chatting every few days before the trip so I can keep feeling them out. It could all go to shit even then.

Not too worried about the paper trail and I will get their info so I can book their tickets. If they aren't willing to provide their info and a picture of their passport page. I will drop them like a hot potato🤣.

Thanks for the advice.

Then it sounds like you're aware of the risks and have a plan. Not sure what you need from the forum. Good luck, and report back with what worked / what didn't. The only thing I'll point out is that, by most accounts on various SB travel forums, you're starting way too early for a trip in June. 2 weeks out seems to be about the right horizon to establish rapport and reach peak momentum. Any longer and the most desirable ones get distracted by other opportunities. It's hard to keep bait on the line. I've found the perishability is down to days for some of the most enticing local prospects. Of course there's always the obligatory: YMMV. You might actually complete that cross-country road trip without any breakdowns in a 1973 MGB.

I wouldn't risk an entire week on someone I've never met in person, but I've done weekend trips in the blind 5 times now, batting 600. One flaked and took the travel advance, and one sorta catfished me. The other three were fantastic. The jeopardy can add to the excitement, so I don't discourage anyone from trying it. But again, probably not a full week, without some bailout options.

[Big Boss Man]

Most guys post that in LOS Angeles the prices are $500 or lower. For me the hottest women are over $500.

The first example is an actress with over 20 IMDB credits. Her mother is actually quite famous in another country. When production shut down, she was offering to do massage on SA. The massage was $250 including UBER. She did not have a car. At the end of the massage, we began to do french kisses and intimate caresses. She said that she was not prepared to do sex on this date. Her price for sex was $600. She recently posted on Instagram that she was pregnant. If you follow the timeline, she was already with this guy when she was still on Seeking.

The second example is a divorcee. She also advertised herself as a masseuse. For sex, she wanted $600. I asked if she could role play being submissive. She replied that she could be very obedient for $1200.

The third example is a model. She was a Brazilian playmate in 2016. She also does not have a car. I offered her $300 plus expenses. She replied that she can't have sex for $300. "It's my job". So I don't know what she actually charges. I asked her if she was on birth control and she said "No".

These women are all 26 and older. I think that they would know their way around a bedroom.

[WyattEarp]

The short answer is for most people, no. The website's advertising is false. Seeking Arrangements claim a ratio of 5 to 1 in favor of sugar daddies. A female college of mine researched this and found that in fact men's profiles on Seeking Arrangements actually outnumbered women by about 1.5 to 2.5 times depending on which country she looked at. These businesses work by advertising a few success stories while the majority of people who join waste their time and money.

The numbers above are likely all true. It's also true it only takes one willing girl (or two or three). Everyone's just playing the numbers game. It's kind of like dating life. 90-95% of the attractive girls won't have interest in you, but you hit up that one girl with the right approach at the right time. Bam! You're a winner.

From what I have heard, many of the guys on SA are lurkers or they just want to chat up young girls on-line. So lots of men and women on SA wasting each other's time.

I have no reason to build-up Steve, MW, DF and others providing valuable advice here. I've been following them during this COVID period. They seem to be able to greatly improve their odds. Simple guidance like SA is far better outside the USA And Steve painstakingly takes you through his methods of screening, seduction and persuasion.

It's clear SA is not just about offering money to the girls. A good fellow I have conversed with over the years on another ISG thread irritated young women on SA asking questions about how much and for what acts. SA is not overtly a P4P site. Like anything on-line, you need to use common sense and be aware of hustles.

Full disclosure: I'm not an expert. I'm just learning.

[Anaggie]

Not sure I fully understand the logistics which are truly important. Are you going to meet up with a girl and make sure it's all good before you fly her? I have flown girls before but always girls I've at least slept with and have a small degree of relationship. What if she's a beatch in person or CBJ and no kissing. I mean it's really risky to fly a girl you don't know if that is the plan.

Also how will you get the tickets. If you send an unknown girl money she will likely never show. But if you book her tickets you will need her real name and such that matches her ID. Maybe she is cool giving that. Maybe not. And of course now there is a paper trail that you booked tickets for Maria Sanchez or whatever if that matters to you.

I guess I'd just be wary to make sure you have thought thru the logistics carefully. And even if u think u know the girl it can be dicey. Thifany was a total home run as was Alexa. But Valentina was a fucking disaster and I thought I knew her best. We had spent 21 hours together over 3 days in Buenos Aires. Nonetheless she dumped me on arrival in London, had her new SD pay for her room so she wouldnt be tempted to fuck me, and proceeded to fuck random guys on our dime!

I would absolutely dive in again with both feet cuz the high is just so high. But make sure u have good odds of success and have the logistics down. Best of luck!

The two that I am currently chatting with on WhatsApp. We discussed all the expectations and agreed before we settled in a price. I have done this with girls in Brazil so I kinda have a feeling when the girl isn't going to work out. Plus. I expect them to continue chatting every few days before the trip so I can keep feeling them out. It could all go to shit even then.

Not too worried about the paper trail and I will get their info so I can book their tickets. If they aren't willing to provide their info and a picture of their passport page. I will drop them like a hot potato🤣.

Thanks for the advice.

[DramaFree11]

Not sure I fully understand the logistics which are truly important. Are you going to meet up with a girl and make sure it's all good before you fly her? I have flown girls before but always girls I've at least slept with and have a small degree of relationship. What if she's a beatch in person or CBJ and no kissing. I mean it's really risky to fly a girl you don't know if that is the plan.

Also how will you get the tickets. If you send an unknown girl money she will likely never show. But if you book her tickets you will need her real name and such that matches her ID. Maybe she is cool giving that. Maybe not. And of course now there is a paper trail that you booked tickets for Maria Sanchez or whatever if that matters to you.

I guess I'd just be wary to make sure you have thought thru the logistics carefully. And even if u think u know the girl it can be dicey. Thifany was a total home run as was Alexa. But Valentina was a fucking disaster and I thought I knew her best. We had spent 21 hours together over 3 days in Buenos Aires. Nonetheless she dumped me on arrival in London, had her new SD pay for her room so she wouldnt be tempted to fuck me, and proceeded to fuck random guys on our dime!

I would absolutely dive in again with both feet cuz the high is just so high. But make sure u have good odds of success and have the logistics down. Best of luck!

Great advice. Never send money to someone you have not known for a long period of time. Also, flying someone that you have not met, is just train wreck waiting to happen.

[Steve 9696]

Planned a trip in June to Cancun so I thought I would try out my luck on SA. Set up a profile, paid for three months and put Leon as my city amd surrounding areas so I could find some girls from around the area. So far, I have probably sent over 200 "holas" and have received a pretty good amount of replies. After that, it either goes on or it dies out. I don't waste time chatting them up. I ask directly what they are looking for and I explain to them what I am looking for. If it moves forward, we chat on WhatsApp and hammer out the deal.

I have found two girls who have agreed to go to Cancun with me. I pay for their flights, food and drinks and 10000 pesos extra for 7 days. I feel that is a pretty fair deal since I usually pay a bit more in Brazil. One girl asked for 60-70000 and I just laughed.

I am still sending messages and interacting just to see who else I can keep in the lineup. I know that a few will flake out and then I don't want to be rushed into finding someone else as the days get closer.

Would appreciate any advice from the experts on here. Will keep posting as I get.

Closer to the trip.

Not sure I fully understand the logistics which are truly important. Are you going to meet up with a girl and make sure it's all good before you fly her? I have flown girls before but always girls I've at least slept with and have a small degree of relationship. What if she's a beatch in person or CBJ and no kissing. I mean it's really risky to fly a girl you don't know if that is the plan.

Also how will you get the tickets. If you send an unknown girl money she will likely never show. But if you book her tickets you will need her real name and such that matches her ID. Maybe she is cool giving that. Maybe not. And of course now there is a paper trail that you booked tickets for Maria Sanchez or whatever if that matters to you.

I guess I'd just be wary to make sure you have thought thru the logistics carefully. And even if u think u know the girl it can be dicey. Thifany was a total home run as was Alexa. But Valentina was a fucking disaster and I thought I knew her best. We had spent 21 hours together over 3 days in Buenos Aires. Nonetheless she dumped me on arrival in London, had her new SD pay for her room so she wouldn’t be tempted to fuck me, and proceeded to fuck random guys on our dime!

I would absolutely dive in again with both feet cuz the high is just so high. But make sure u have good odds of success and have the logistics down. Best of luck!

[Anaggie]

Planned a trip in June to Cancun so I thought I would try out my luck on SA. Set up a profile, paid for three months and put Leon as my city amd surrounding areas so I could find some girls from around the area. So far, I have probably sent over 200 "holas" and have received a pretty good amount of replies. After that, it either goes on or it dies out. I don't waste time chatting them up. I ask directly what they are looking for and I explain to them what I am looking for. If it moves forward, we chat on WhatsApp and hammer out the deal.

I have found two girls who have agreed to go to Cancun with me. I pay for their flights, food and drinks and 10000 pesos extra for 7 days. I feel that is a pretty fair deal since I usually pay a bit more in Brazil. One girl asked for 60-70000 and I just laughed.

I am still sending messages and interacting just to see who else I can keep in the lineup. I know that a few will flake out and then I don't want to be rushed into finding someone else as the days get closer.

Would appreciate any advice from the experts on here. Will keep posting as I get.

Closer to the trip.

[DramaFree11]

I think it is not possible to unblock

I rarely chat on SA anymore. I move them to wpp right away. If they hesitate and want to continue to chat on SA. I say OK and leave it at that to move on to the next.

Occasionally, there are new ones that are very timid and I just chat with them without the intention of getting their numbers, these would volunteer their numbers without asking when they feel they can trust you.

I do the same. A lot of the girls that want to Chat, on SA, have no interest in meeting in person, for whatever reason. Just move on.

[CarloRogue]

When girls go AWOL for a 2-3 days that's normal.

When I go AWOL wtf.

I have a normal life, I'm not glued to this app around the clock. I even added a small blurb "my day life gets hectic I may go afk for hours, I'll get back to each and every hot girl inbox anywhere from 5 minutes to 2 days. ".

Some of the hot ones from MTY and GDL not good enough, I even told this hottie from GDL I was boarding a flight can we continue talkimg in morning? She said sure cuidate.

Log in just now she already blocked me. Again, I'm not on this site 24/7 and I was preparing to strike an offer.

If you've made it this far, anyone with active SA accounts, there's a few nominees I was wondering if you could holler at them ask them to unblock me "hey girl I were talking to my buddy but he went AWOL for 2 hours and you blocked him, he really really wants to talk to you when his hectic day clears up".

Firstly, you don't know for sure if she blocked you. She just might've deactivated her profile for a hundred different reasons, or someone else might have gotten her banned. Or maybe she did block you, for any random reason. So what. If she did, no one's going to talk her out of it, especially a stranger acting on your behalf (that's getting into the creepy realm). You shouldn't obsess over any one girl, especially if you have a full and normal life, as you say. The flake risk is very high in the sugar bowl. The hotter they are, the more unpredictable. Be positive, have thick skin, enjoy the good as it comes and goes.

[Nounce]

If you've made it this far, anyone with active SA accounts, there's a few nominees I was wondering if you could holler at them ask them to unblock me

I think it is not possible to unblock


I rarely chat on SA anymore. I move them to wpp right away. If they hesitate and want to continue to chat on SA. I say OK and leave it at that to move on to the next.

Occasionally, there are new ones that are very timid and I just chat with them without the intention of getting their numbers, these would volunteer their numbers without asking when they feel they can trust you.

[Nounce]

The short answer is for most people, no. The website's advertising is false. Seeking Arrangements claim a ratio of 5 to 1 in favor of sugar daddies. A female college of mine researched this and found that in fact men's profiles on Seeking Arrangements actually outnumbered women by about 1.5 to 2.5 times depending on which country she looked at. These businesses work by advertising a few success stories while the majority of people who join waste their time and money.

It depends on the city. Some cites are much better than the other. That research is useless if it only has a number for the whole site. It needs to have a number for each city at least. Most members here don't care about the successes that end with marriage.

[CenTexCrash]

When girls go AWOL for a 2-3 days that's normal.

When I go AWOL wtf.

I have a normal life, I'm not glued to this app around the clock. I even added a small blurb "my day life gets hectic I may go afk for hours, I'll get back to each and every hot girl inbox anywhere from 5 minutes to 2 days. ".

Some of the hot ones from MTY and GDL not good enough, I even told this hottie from GDL I was boarding a flight can we continue talkimg in morning? She said sure cuidate.

Log in just now she already blocked me. Again, I'm not on this site 24/7 and I was preparing to strike an offer.

If you've made it this far, anyone with active SA accounts, there's a few nominees I was wondering if you could holler at them ask them to unblock me "hey girl I were talking to my buddy but he went AWOL for 2 hours and you blocked him, he really really wants to talk to you when his hectic day clears up".