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  1. #1465
    Quote Originally Posted by DramaFree11  [View Original Post]
    She show up, of course hungover, she asked about money before she came I said $300, which is $100 more than I usually pay, but she is that hot, but that was for the night. 2 hours in she says she is tired and we should go to bed, it was 8 pm, and I said lets wait 20 minutes then we can go. She then tells me she can not spend the night, to my surprise. I thought she was joking, but she had to go home because of her brother. This was total be. S. , because they party all night all the time. I was speechless, she knew I was upset. I said why did you not tell me this before you came. Of course she has all kinds of excuses. I real love being around her, but just too much drama. I suggest we meet Monday, have dinner and she can spend the night. She says no, and end of story. It was not about the money, it had to do more with here being real hungover, and was not up front about not spending the night.
    I got two stories for you on this, DF. I have this lawyer in CDMX, and I know you do not like my saying a girl is a 10 (I thought the pic of the one you sent me was damned close to one BTW), but I think she is: internationally ranked swimmer, smart. Anyway, I am talking my friend about her. She is like "Elvis, that woman has self esteem issues and is borderline." Immediately, I knew she was right. The saying with borderlines is I love you, I hate you, do not leave me. So any time you have a woman freaking out about your abandoning her, and this girl did, she probably is borderline, and it is time to head for the exit. I had a terrible incident with a borderline SB, and I cannot believe I missed it with this one. It sounds like your girl has a mental illness or personality disorder. It sucks that I have to dump mine. She was so hot and great in bed.

    The good thing about Monterrey is the hit rate is so high that you can blow one off easily. As I said I was kind of fucked out and my schedule was packed in MTY. I had only 2 out of 8 no shows for first time meetings which in my experience is really good. Anyway, the last day I was supposed to meet a newbie at 10 AM. I hear nothing and do not care. She was an 8 I thought by her photos and I sensed in real life she was not even that.

    She texts me at noon and says she overslept. I say, "That is okay. Maybe I can meet you next trip." She says "Well, you know I really need money to go see my parents today. I cannot meet you because I have to be at work by 2 PM. "I really wanted to be a smart ass and tell her off. You really expect money after standing me up *****? I think maybe my silence will send a message. Wrong. She texts me again and says, "Well, you know, if you are not going to give me money, I am just going to block you."

    I know from your posts and texts DF you are a rational guy and so am I. I think people like us with common sense sometimes forget it is not that common because when I told my female friend about this girl, she laughed and scolded me. "You know, Elvis, I think you forget how many dumb bitches there are in the universe." I laughed and pleaded guilty to the charge.

    I wish everyone here had a friend like her.

  2. #1464
    No matter how hot they are, if they are a pain in the ass, OR, if you feel like they are not really into you, then you have to cut them loose. There was a 26 year old, 180 cm, model from Poland that was really into me. But all she wanted to do was smoke weed and watch movies in bed, like almost 24 hours a day. It was boring and annoying. And, for some people, being high makes you not horny, and that was her. We only did the deed twice out of the hundreds of hours that we spent together. So I finally broke it off with her, and she couldn't believe it, because she was so hot. Another SB hottie that I dated for a short while always wanted to take off right away, after the deed, so she could go clubbing with her friends. So I stopped seeing her too. To her, I was just a part-time job.

    Great advice as always. I wanted it to work, but I have my limits. I tried monthly and PPM, but nothing will ever be enough for her. Love her to death, but it is no win situation.

  3. #1463

    Totally agree!

    No matter how hot they are, if they are a pain in the ass, OR, if you feel like they are not really into you, then you have to cut them loose. There was a 26 year old, 180 cm, model from Poland that was really into me. But all she wanted to do was smoke weed and watch movies in bed, like almost 24 hours a day. It was boring and annoying. And, for some people, being high makes you not horny, and that was her. We only did the deed twice out of the hundreds of hours that we spent together. So I finally broke it off with her, and she couldn't believe it, because she was so hot. Another SB hottie that I dated for a short while always wanted to take off right away, after the deed, so she could go clubbing with her friends. So I stopped seeing her too. To her, I was just a part-time job.

    Quote Originally Posted by DramaFree11  [View Original Post]
    Sometimes you just have to say no. The girl I met last night is one of the best looking girls I have ever been with in my life. 5'8', 110, just beautiful. Honestly I think she is better looking then my main girl in MTY, that is an actual model, She is super nice and loves to party, but just too much. She has a drinking problem, I thought there had been improvement, but I guess I was wrong.

    She show up, of course hungover, she asked about money before she came I said $300, which is $100 more than I usually pay, but she is that hot, but that was for the night. 2 hours in she says she is tired and we should go to bed, it was 8 pm, and I said lets wait 20 minutes then we can go. She then tells me she can not spend the night, to my surprise. I thought she was joking, but she had to go home because of her brother. This was total be. S. , because they party all night all the time. I was speechless, she knew I was upset. I said why did you not tell me this before you came. Of course she has all kinds of excuses. I real love being around her, but just too much drama. I suggest we meet Monday, have dinner and she can spend the night. She says no, and end of story. It was not about the money, it had to do more with here being real hungover, and was not up front about not spending the night.

    I am flexible, but I have my limits. Time to move on. We had a monthly arrangement at the beginning and obliviously*that did not turn out well, another story for another day.
    .

  4. #1462

    Hold your ground

    Sometimes you just have to say no. The girl I met last night is one of the best looking girls I have ever been with in my life. 5'8', 110, just beautiful. Honestly I think she is better looking then my main girl in MTY, that is an actual model, (It Sucks, She is on total lock down, her parents came to visit, now they will not leave and the will not let her leave the house because of Covid. They are crazy about Covid in MTY) She is super nice and loves to party, but just too much. She has a drinking problem, I thought there had been improvement, but I guess I was wrong.

    She show up, of course hungover, she asked about money before she came I said $300, which is $100 more than I usually pay, but she is that hot, but that was for the night. 2 hours in she says she is tired and we should go to bed, it was 8 pm, and I said lets wait 20 minutes then we can go. She then tells me she can not spend the night, to my surprise. I thought she was joking, but she had to go home because of her brother. This was total be. S. , because they party all night all the time. I was speechless, she knew I was upset. I said why did you not tell me this before you came. Of course she has all kinds of excuses. I real love being around her, but just too much drama. I suggest we meet Monday, have dinner and she can spend the night. She says no, and end of story. It was not about the money, it had to do more with here being real hungover, and was not up front about not spending the night.

    I am flexible, but I have my limits. Time to move on. We had a monthly arrangement at the beginning and obliviously*that did not turn out well, another story for another day.

  5. #1461
    When are referring to SA do we mean seeking com or seekingagreements com?

  6. #1460

    Just another Example of great experience on SA

    I hear a lot of guys complaining about SA, for me I can not say enough good things about it. L Here is just one example. Friday I arrived late, in MTY, because of work issues. One of my regulars meets me at 10 pm at the hotel. I was exhausted so the sex was not the best that was all on me, and I purchased t Viag, and when I arrived at the hotel the box was empty, it happens. Anyway, we spent the night together, we watched a movie and ordered Pizza. All for $200, plus pizaza. What a great night, besides being exhausted from work drama. I have several more dates lined up over the next few days. Loving Life and SA in MTY.

  7. #1459
    Quote Originally Posted by Elvis2008  [View Original Post]
    MW, for me a SB is fun in and out of the bedroom. A WG is just friend in the bedroom, or that is all I care about it. I think you need to define what you want.

    With me, the definition of what I want in any woman is that they make feel better sexually and emotionally. That is what I am paying for. If there is too much shaming or greed, then that woman is done.

    What are you saying she is right for that you wanted sex and were selfish? Fuck that. You are paying the bills. She never should have felt comfortable even saying those things to you. You are better off without her.
    Correct, time is money. You can not put a valley on good SD relationship. The phone calls, text messages, spending the night, you can not put a value on any of this. Not to mention you are with a girl half your age, she is not complaining, and she is happy to be around you. I am 51 and hanging out with girls between 20-27 in MTY, it is unbelievable. The girls I am with now are way better then the girls I was dating traditionally when I was in my 20's-30's. With a few exceptions the girls are also way better looking then the girls I was meeting in Kiev and MDE, honestly when you add in there personality it is not even close. Moscow is a different story, if you have the time, money and any game you can write your own ticket, but I know longer have the time, money yes.

  8. #1458

    Not sure hookers are more expensive

    Quote Originally Posted by Steve9696  [View Original Post]
    I guess if you are just after an hour of fun then a solid GFE hooker is great. If you want to go longer tho like a four hour dinner and date it's going to be $400*4=$1600. Or god forbid and overnight. But if you can find the right one she'll go off the books. I had a girl in London that I booked thru the agency for 150 an hour. But we agreed 400 for dinner and all night sleepover. I think she woulda taken less. So if you have chemistry with a great GFE escort it can work economically.
    For me, SBs have been more expensive. Buying them presents, and paying for expensive dinners and trips, all adds up. But I paid for all of this because I like the GFE.

    But that said, my current negative opinion of SBs are probably all coming from my very recent SB experience. I paid a monthly allowance when I barely saw her, and she gave me a lot of shit because I mostly cared about sex. In addition, I got tired of the dates. They were becoming tedious and boring.

    But I still think SA is the best way to go in the United States.

  9. #1457
    Quote Originally Posted by Midwestern  [View Original Post]
    My SB for the past 3+ months broke up with me. It was kind of an ugly breakup. She said that I was selfish and only cared about sex. There's truth to both, but that's why I was paying her monthly mortgage.

    I am beginning to think that a great WG is better than an SB. If the WG can fake the GFE, then why bother with an SB? The hard part, of course, is finding WGs that provide great GFE. Some of that comes with time. In my life, there were about four or five WGs that I saw pretty regularly that eventually became sort of like a GF.
    MW, for me a SB is fun in and out of the bedroom. A WG is just friend in the bedroom, or that is all I care about it. I think you need to define what you want.

    With me, the definition of what I want in any woman is that they make feel better sexually and emotionally. That is what I am paying for. If there is too much shaming or greed, then that woman is done.

    What are you saying she is right for that you wanted sex and were selfish? Fuck that. You are paying the bills. She never should have felt comfortable even saying those things to you. You are better off without her.

  10. #1456
    Quote Originally Posted by Steve9696  [View Original Post]
    Got to say a nice thing about a hooker is they aren't shy. This girl I'm talking about in London was a real naughty minx. She was grabbing my package at the dinner table whenever the waiter wasn't looking. And when we were walking down the street hand In hand she put my free hand inside her bra to keep it warm!

    At dinner she said "You should adopt me. Then you could fuck me every day!" Damn I really like her. Going to have to see her next time I am in London. She's quite the firecracker!
    I think this is not because she is a hooker. I have met a few hookers that I thought were born for this job. I think these girls will be great even if they are not hookers.

  11. #1455
    Quote Originally Posted by Midwestern  [View Original Post]
    My SB for the past 3+ months broke up with me. It was kind of an ugly breakup. She said that I was selfish and only cared about sex. There's truth to both, but that's why I was paying her monthly mortgage.

    I am beginning to think that a great WG is better than an SB. If the WG can fake the GFE, then why bother with an SB? The hard part, of course, is finding WGs that provide great GFE. Some of that comes with time. In my life, there were about four or five WGs that I saw pretty regularly that eventually became sort of like a GF.
    This is the 3rd time. I think maybe the cause is rooted in that she was not seeking a SD from the beginning and you put her into the SB role. Also language barrier, and the fact you are a foreigner makes her think it is not permanent so she feels insecure. Just my wild guesses.

  12. #1454
    Quote Originally Posted by Midwestern  [View Original Post]
    My SB for the past 3+ months broke up with me. It was kind of an ugly breakup. She said that I was selfish and only cared about sex. There's truth to both, but that's why I was paying her monthly mortgage.

    I am beginning to think that a great WG is better than an SB. If the WG can fake the GFE, then why bother with an SB? The hard part, of course, is finding WGs that provide great GFE. Some of that comes with time. In my life, there were about four or five WGs that I saw pretty regularly that eventually became sort of like a GF.
    Sorry about that you will find something better.

  13. #1453
    Quote Originally Posted by CarloRogue  [View Original Post]
    I see a lot of similar complaints on the SA sub-forums in the various US city forums, and well. Not to pile on or brag, but I've had 5 SB's in the last 7 days, 3 regulars and 2 new additions to the roster. I'm wiped out and looking forward to a few nights off. I also have several more in the pipeline and even more that I've just had to drop due to lack of time. It does take a bit of time, effort, and positive energy, so if you're just looking for a quick lay (or straight-up escorts as the front page says) and can't handle some missed connections, use some site other than SA. I confirm what the other posters say about the reward, which for me goes well beyond the physical. I enjoy the drama-less fun, friendship, and vitality I feel from making genuine connections with kindred spirits that are, shall we say, just a tad bit younger than me. It's even a free cultural education for me. If there wasn't an element of challenge, it wouldn't be as rewarding, but I also feel compelled to credit the many men on that site that make it so sooooo easy for me haha (as my SB's would text it).
    Well said, I am living a dream. I will be back in MTY Saturday, I can not wait.

  14. #1452

    Right Girl is Right Girl

    Quote Originally Posted by Steve9696  [View Original Post]
    I guess if you are just after an hour of fun then a solid GFE hooker is great. If you want to go longer tho like a four hour dinner and date it's going to be $400*4=$1600. Or god forbid and overnight. But if you can find the right one she'll go off the books. I had a girl in London that I booked thru the agency for 150 an hour. But we agreed 400 for dinner and all night sleepover. I think she woulda taken less. So if you have chemistry with a great GFE escort it can work economically.
    Got to say a nice thing about a hooker is they aren't shy. This girl I'm talking about in London was a real naughty minx. She was grabbing my package at the dinner table whenever the waiter wasn't looking. And when we were walking down the street hand In hand she put my free hand inside her bra to keep it warm!

    At dinner she said "You should adopt me. Then you could fuck me every day!" Damn I really like her. Going to have to see her next time I am in London. She's quite the firecracker!

  15. #1451
    Quote Originally Posted by DramaFree11  [View Original Post]
    Sorry, I could not disagree more. I love SA. I am 51 and having the best time of my life and incredible sex. Takes work and yes there are scams, but they are fairly easily detected. I love SA and MTY. Moscow is better, but believe it or not MTY is a gold mine and little money for what I get back in return.
    I see a lot of similar complaints on the SA sub-forums in the various US city forums, and well. Not to pile on or brag, but I've had 5 SB's in the last 7 days, 3 regulars and 2 new additions to the roster. I'm wiped out and looking forward to a few nights off. I also have several more in the pipeline and even more that I've just had to drop due to lack of time. It does take a bit of time, effort, and positive energy, so if you're just looking for a quick lay (or straight-up escorts as the front page says) and can't handle some missed connections, use some site other than SA. I confirm what the other posters say about the reward, which for me goes well beyond the physical. I enjoy the drama-less fun, friendship, and vitality I feel from making genuine connections with kindred spirits that are, shall we say, just a tad bit younger than me. It's even a free cultural education for me. If there wasn't an element of challenge, it wouldn't be as rewarding, but I also feel compelled to credit the many men on that site that make it so sooooo easy for me haha (as my SB's would text it).

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