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  1. #1270
    Quote Originally Posted by Ailton  [View Original Post]
    I have updated the table with new entries, thank you all for the additions. To all the silent readers: we know you are there. Please consider telling us about your experiences, the setting and how much it set you back.

    EUROPE

    Austria

    Vienna 300 EUR for the Night.

    Czech Republic

    Prague 300 - 350 EUR 200 EUR for the night 150 - 300 EUR.

    Germany

    Berlin 300 - 350 EUR 500 EUR for the night.

    Munich 300 EUR.

    Netherlands

    Amsterdam 200 EUR for a couple of hours. 300 for a whole night.

    Generally 200 - 300 EUR.

    Poland

    Warsaw 300 - 350 EUR.

    Portugal

    Lisbon 150 - 200 EUR for a couple of hours to a whole night, depending on girl 100 - 200 EUR.

    Russia

    Moscow 150 - 300 USD, Stunners from above 200 USD.

    Serbia

    Belgrade 50 - 300 EUR - the worst looking on the lower end, playmate class on the high end.

    Spain

    Barcelona Full weekend: 300 EUR. Generally 200 - 500 EUR for a weekend. 200 EUR for standard.

    Ukraine

    Kiev 250 USD, disputed, several data points lower than that 140 - 180 USD (4000-5000 UAH).

    United Kingdom

    London 300 - 350 EUR 350 Sterling.

    NORTH AMERICA

    United States

    Atlanta 200 - 350 USD for a solid 6 to 8.

    Austin 400 - 500 USD.

    Boston 300 - 350 USD.

    Chicago Under 300 USD is doable.

    Denver 200 USD.

    Detroit 300 USD.

    Houston 400 - 500 USD.

    Jacksonville (FL) 150 - 200 USD for a 6/7. 200 - 250 USD for a 7/8 college aged. 400 USD solid 9.

    Las Vegas 400 USD.

    LOS Angeles 200 USD second tier. 300 first tier. 300 USD.

    Miami 300 USD.

    Milwaukee Under 300 USD is doable.

    Nashville 200 USD second tier. 300 first tier..

    New York City 500 USD 400 USD second tier, 500 USD first tier.

    Philadelphia 200 - 300 USD.

    Portland 300 USD.

    San Antonio 300 - 350 USD.

    San Francisco 500 USD 500 USD 300 USD for exchange student.

    Savannah (GA) 150 - 200 USD for a 6/7. 200 - 250 USD for a 7/8 college aged. 400 USD solid 9.

    Canada

    Montreal 300 CAD (now with revised link, member account of source deleted).

    Niagara Falls 250 - 300 CAD.

    Mexico

    Cabo San Lucas 2500 MXN.

    Guadalajara 2000 MXN+.

    Mexico City 1500 - 3000 MXN, possibly 4000 MXN for high-end..

    Monterrey 3000 - 4500 MXN.

    SOUTH AMERICA

    Brazil

    Sao Paulo 800 Rs for model quality.

    Colombia

    Medellin 7-8 girl 100 USD todo la noche, 8.5 - 9 girl 100 - 200 USD all day 100 USD 200 - 500k COP.

    Peru

    Cusco 100 USD for whole weekend.

    Lima 100 - 150 USD.

    AFRICA

    Egypt

    Cairo 2000 - 7000 EGP | note: prices for private escorts in CAI (college aged girls) run between a mere 1,5 k to 2 k for 2 hours which they have to share with a madame, a rate above 3k should be unreasonable.

    ASIA

    India

    Note that many of the allowances referenced below might not sound like a lot to us but often exceed an entire monthly salary in India. Based on several opinions in the different threads, there is ample reason to assume that this has turned a lot of non-pros in to pro SBs. Scoring a gem in large metropolitan areas will require considerable effort. The low amount of profiles is also puzzling me. New Delhi (Radius 80 km): 1 k. Mumbai (Radius 80 km): 800.

    Bangalore 350 USD.

    Delhi 15.000 INR 8.000 - 30.000 INR.

    Mumbai 10.000 INR +.

    Pune 15.000 INR 40.000 INR for whole night.

    Japan

    Tokyo 300 USD - 90 minutes, likely freelancer.

    Singapore

    Singapore 500 - 1000 SGD.

    United Arab Emirates

    Dubai Depending on Tier: 400 - 800 USD.

    OCEANIA

    Australia

    Sydney 400 - 500 AUD.
    OK you caught me. Bought my first subscription last June. Only met with 3 girls but bagged one of them a few times before the covid blow up scared me off. Took her to my house. She was 24 years old, a solid 9, 10 body 8 face, for $400 in San Diego.

  2. #1269
    Quote Originally Posted by Steve9696  [View Original Post]
    DF I think you are in Mexico or somewhere right now? If you are in Brazil an hour late is considered on time. You kick them to the curb you going to be jacking off a lot. LOL. So hard to ask generically. Depends on the venue where u hanging these days?
    I am hanging in Mexico, 30 minutes I can deal with, but more then that usually does not fly with me, unless they are very hot.

  3. #1268

    Culture Matters

    Quote Originally Posted by DramaFree11  [View Original Post]
    I real have been pretty lucky with girls being on time, but lately I have had a couple girls show up extremely late, for the first meeting. That is the first strike, then I have absolutely zero tolerance if they of not look like there pictures. If they are super hot then no problem.

    Yesterday I had to kick one to the curb, she was not bad looking but she was thick and 90 minutes late. What do you guys think?

    The funny part she starts complaining about my Spanish, I reached in my wallet and said your pictures do not match here is Taxi money, Good Bye. If she was on time, I met have met with her for a lower price.
    DF I think you are in Mexico or somewhere right now? If you are in Brazil an hour late is considered on time. You kick them to the curb you going to be jacking off a lot. LOL. So hard to ask generically. Depends on the venue — where u hanging these days?

  4. #1267
    Quote Originally Posted by DramaFree11  [View Original Post]
    I real have been pretty lucky with girls being on time, but lately I have had a couple girls show up extremely late, for the first meeting. That is the first strike, then I have absolutely zero tolerance if they of not look like there pictures. If they are super hot then no problem.

    Yesterday I had to kick one to the curb, she was not bad looking but she was thick and 90 minutes late. What do you guys think?

    The funny part she starts complaining about my Spanish, I reached in my wallet and said your pictures do not match here is Taxi money, Good Bye. If she was on time, I met have met with her for a lower price.
    It is a blessing when an ugly girl shows up late. It gives you an easy out.

  5. #1266

    Showing up late

    I real have been pretty lucky with girls being on time, but lately I have had a couple girls show up extremely late, for the first meeting. That is the first strike, then I have absolutely zero tolerance if they of not look like there pictures. If they are super hot then no problem.

    Yesterday I had to kick one to the curb, she was not bad looking but she was thick and 90 minutes late. What do you guys think?

    The funny part she starts complaining about my Spanish, I reached in my wallet and said your pictures do not match here is Taxi money, Good Bye. If she was on time, I met have met with her for a lower price.

  6. #1265
    Quote Originally Posted by Midwestern  [View Original Post]
    In about a year, when CV19 is behind us, your database is going to be a go-to resource for SA and domestic and international travelers. Thanks for doing this. Love the links to the source. I'm not sure everyone realizes that you can click on your data points to go to your source.
    I hope you are correct, but even with the vaccine, we are looking at least a year, probably 1.5 years. With additional lockdowns and restrictions going into place, the financial damage will be even worse then the Virus. There are just better ways to be handling the lockdowns, but this is not the place for that discussion.

  7. #1264

    Great resource!

    Quote Originally Posted by Ailton  [View Original Post]
    I have updated the table with new entries, thank you all for the additions. To all the silent readers: we know you are there. Please consider telling us about your experiences, the setting and how much it set you back.
    In about a year, when CV19 is behind us, your database is going to be a go-to resource for SA and domestic and international travelers. Thanks for doing this. Love the links to the source. I'm not sure everyone realizes that you can click on your data points to go to your source.

  8. #1263
    Quote Originally Posted by Ailton  [View Original Post]
    I have updated the table with new entries, thank you all for the additions. To all the silent readers: we know you are there. Please consider telling us about your experiences, the setting and how much it set you back.
    Many thanks.

    Muchas gracia.

    Dante.

  9. #1262

    Typical Allowances

    I have updated the table with new entries, thank you all for the additions. To all the silent readers: we know you are there. Please consider telling us about your experiences, the setting and how much it set you back.

    EUROPE

    Austria

    Vienna 300 EUR for the Night.

    Czech Republic

    Prague 300 - 350 EUR 200 EUR for the night 150 - 300 EUR.

    Germany

    Berlin 300 - 350 EUR 500 EUR for the night.

    Munich 300 EUR.

    Netherlands

    Amsterdam 200 EUR for a couple of hours. 300 for a whole night.

    Generally 200 - 300 EUR.

    Poland

    Warsaw 300 - 350 EUR.

    Portugal

    Lisbon 150 - 200 EUR for a couple of hours to a whole night, depending on girl 100 - 200 EUR.

    Russia

    Moscow 150 - 300 USD, Stunners from above 200 USD.

    Serbia

    Belgrade 50 - 300 EUR - the worst looking on the lower end, playmate class on the high end.

    Spain

    Barcelona Full weekend: 300 EUR. Generally 200 - 500 EUR for a weekend. 200 EUR for standard.

    Ukraine

    Kiev 250 USD, disputed, several data points lower than that 140 - 180 USD (4000-5000 UAH).

    United Kingdom

    London 300 - 350 EUR 350 Sterling.

    NORTH AMERICA

    United States

    Atlanta 200 - 350 USD for a solid 6 to 8.

    Austin 400 - 500 USD.

    Boston 300 - 350 USD.

    Chicago Under 300 USD is doable.

    Denver 200 USD.

    Detroit 300 USD.

    Houston 400 - 500 USD.

    Jacksonville (FL) 150 - 200 USD for a 6/7. 200 - 250 USD for a 7/8 college aged. 400 USD solid 9.

    Las Vegas 400 USD.

    LOS Angeles 200 USD second tier. 300 first tier. 300 USD.

    Miami 300 USD.

    Milwaukee Under 300 USD is doable.

    Nashville 200 USD second tier. 300 first tier..

    New York City 500 USD 400 USD second tier, 500 USD first tier.

    Philadelphia 200 - 300 USD.

    Portland 300 USD.

    San Antonio 300 - 350 USD.

    San Francisco 500 USD 500 USD 300 USD for exchange student.

    Savannah (GA) 150 - 200 USD for a 6/7. 200 - 250 USD for a 7/8 college aged. 400 USD solid 9.

    Canada

    Montreal 300 CAD (now with revised link, member account of source deleted).

    Niagara Falls 250 - 300 CAD.

    Mexico

    Cabo San Lucas 2500 MXN.

    Guadalajara 2000 MXN+.

    Mexico City 1500 - 3000 MXN, possibly 4000 MXN for high-end..

    Monterrey 3000 - 4500 MXN.

    SOUTH AMERICA

    Brazil

    Sao Paulo 800 Rs for model quality.

    Colombia

    Medellin 7-8 girl 100 USD todo la noche, 8.5 - 9 girl 100 - 200 USD all day 100 USD 200 - 500k COP.

    Peru

    Cusco 100 USD for whole weekend.

    Lima 100 - 150 USD.

    AFRICA

    Egypt

    Cairo 2000 - 7000 EGP | note: prices for private escorts in CAI (college aged girls) run between a mere 1,5 k to 2 k for 2 hours which they have to share with a madame, a rate above 3k should be unreasonable.

    ASIA

    India

    Note that many of the allowances referenced below might not sound like a lot to us but often exceed an entire monthly salary in India. Based on several opinions in the different threads, there is ample reason to assume that this has turned a lot of non-pros in to pro SBs. Scoring a gem in large metropolitan areas will require considerable effort. The low amount of profiles is also puzzling me. New Delhi (Radius 80 km): 1 k. Mumbai (Radius 80 km): 800.

    Bangalore 350 USD.

    Delhi 15.000 INR 8.000 - 30.000 INR.

    Mumbai 10.000 INR +.

    Pune 15.000 INR 40.000 INR for whole night.

    Japan

    Tokyo 300 USD - 90 minutes, likely freelancer.

    Singapore

    Singapore 500 - 1000 SGD.

    United Arab Emirates

    Dubai Depending on Tier: 400 - 800 USD.

    OCEANIA

    Australia

    Sydney 400 - 500 AUD.

  10. #1261
    Quote Originally Posted by Midwestern  [View Original Post]
    Bay area was my primary SA hunting grounds for almost two years. It is a lot of work. I was on SA about 15 hours a week. I would send out 20 messages per day, and see if I could get a nibble.

    It's a numbers game with the Bay Area. Finding the new members is always best, but there are a lot of guys using SA in the Bay Area too. Some of the hot girls that I met told me that they would get a hundred messages every day. They are obviously exaggerating, but it is still telling.

    Sure, you can stretch your search to 50 miles. That's what I did. But meet and greets and dates will eat up a lot of travel time. And the flake and cancellation rate was pretty high, which added to the time wasted. The gals are also playing a numbers game too. So, they might agree to meet you, but if something better comes along, then they cancel.

    Going rate was 500 for PPM, which is exactly the going rate for a high quality pro in SF.

    You can increase your success rate if are willing to date older gals, like over 30 or even over 40. If I were still in SF, I would probably skip SA and just do the FS AMPS..
    Same here. I don't have nearly the extent of experience in San Fran, but traveled there quite a bit over the last few years and tried pretty hard at the SA game. I can confirm it is a numbers game, and due to the size of the city and traffic, you have to account for logistics. To improve your odds, you should lower your expectations (or raise your budget considerably). If she looks like a dimepiece, she'll either have GPS, be an Instagram fake / flake, or just never see your message in her flooded inbox. And just forget the really hot Asians, no matter how tempting. I had a little success by targeting the 6-7's. I found this formula true of most metro areas, but somehow SF is the worst.

  11. #1260
    Quote Originally Posted by Travel902  [View Original Post]
    I have had good results without being able to speak Spanish, I just use a translator app. The SB's always start off with a higher price because of the area, Cabo being the most expensive area in all of Mexico. I offer about 2500 pesos, (125 USD) which I think is fair and if they argue I politely tell them that I am moving on. You can get WG here through the online paper for about 1500 pesos but the real pros are about 5000 pesos. Just my experience.
    Good info. Can you provide some details on your logistics and related recommendations, like where to stay, issues bringing girls into your hotel, and vanilla stuff too (restaurants, things to do)? Would love to hear more. I'm also considering the capital for a visit while most of the rest of the world is shut down to Americans. The CDMX board has good reports on the SA scene down there.

  12. #1259

    Bay Area

    Bay area was my primary SA hunting grounds for almost two years. It is a lot of work. I was on SA about 15 hours a week. I would send out 20 messages per day, and see if I could get a nibble.

    It's a numbers game with the Bay Area. Finding the new members is always best, but there are a lot of guys using SA in the Bay Area too. Some of the hot girls that I met told me that they would get a hundred messages every day. They are obviously exaggerating, but it is still telling.

    Sure, you can stretch your search to 50 miles. That's what I did. But meet and greets and dates will eat up a lot of travel time. And the flake and cancellation rate was pretty high, which added to the time wasted. The gals are also playing a numbers game too. So, they might agree to meet you, but if something better comes along, then they cancel.

    Going rate was 500 for PPM, which is exactly the going rate for a high quality pro in SF.

    You can increase your success rate if are willing to date older gals, like over 30 or even over 40. If I were still in SF, I would probably skip SA and just do the FS AMPS.

    Quote Originally Posted by SamPeter71  [View Original Post]
    I am new to SA and I have checked SA after a while. I am seeing lot more girls on SA compared to last year. I am looking into getting into this SA game.

    Any suggestions / pointers on bay area SA? What is the rge typical PPM range in bay area? Is there any one area is better than other area in terms of price / attitude etc. Is ir better to look for girls more than 50 miles away from home?

    Also why would a girl get premium membership? Does it mean she is pro?

    Thanks.

    Sam.
    .

  13. #1258

    CashApp OK for Me. Maybe not you.

    Quote Originally Posted by DramaFree11  [View Original Post]
    You guys do not want to use CashApp, for 2 reasons. 1. Very trackable 2. It is a huge Red Flag if you get Audited, you will have a lot of explaining to do. So, that income better be accounted for. Small amounts are OK, but large and consistent monthly amounts can lead to big problems, for both you and the girl.
    There is no way to set up any money transfer that is anonymous to the bank and / or government. But CashApp is anonymous to the girl. You can also use PayPal but have to set up a business acct to remain anonymous to the girl. Again you can't be anonymous to the app / bank because you have to connect to some source of funds.

    I have an acct and debit card that is "safe" for me generally but clearly the govt or institutions could connect the Steve breadcrumbs. Chance I've chosen to take.

  14. #1257
    Quote Originally Posted by WyattEarp  [View Original Post]
    Hey Steve,

    Are you able to CashApp money anonymously? Are there easy ways to set-up an anonymous cashapp account? Thanks.
    You guys do not want to use CashApp, for 2 reasons. 1. Very trackable 2. It is a huge Red Flag if you get Audited, you will have a lot of explaining to do. So, that income better be accounted for. Small amounts are OK, but large and consistent monthly amounts can lead to big problems, for both you and the girl.

  15. #1256
    Quote Originally Posted by Steve9696  [View Original Post]
    ......I waited two days and CashApped her some college cash. We met up twice this week and I didn't pay per session. I mean honestly I know shed meet me with no $$ at all. Didnt give her anything after second time. Then after third go, I waited two days again and sent some college money. It feels nice this way - because I dont really have to give her $$ but I do cuz I want to.
    Hey Steve,

    Are you able to CashApp money anonymously? Are there easy ways to set-up an anonymous cashapp account? Thanks.

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