Seeking Arrangements

[Steve 9696]

It's not shyness.

That said I have found little correlation between this sort of text discourse and how a girl "performs" when she shows up.

I think most super hot seeking girls field so many inquiries that it's just fatiguing to give every guy the honor of more detailed responses. I'm sure most inquiries end up in cheapskates and girls think they wasted their time and don't want to do the first act performance until they know they're speaking to an actually well capitalized guy.

I try to get to the point I'm quoting an arrangement as soon as practical so it's clear I'm serious and need them at attention.

Yeah even tho I love long distance courting, this week I've been saying I'm going out later this week and do they want to come. And very quick and direct hits. I do think they tired of spending lots of time. So quick payback is attractive.

[AmericanPi]

Any thoughts, ideas on handling shy girls?

I am chatting one up, we moved to text. She stays about 150 kms away from me making it a little challenge to schedule. Pics are pretty (of course, in person might turn out to be a dud), seems like a decent girl. No chat about money yet. Neither have I spoken about sex. I know though that she has had one arrangement before with intimacy.

The challenge is her respones are usually one word / line. A bit difficult to keep the conversation going.

So, why am I investing time? Pics look solid 8. A previous experience of such one line responder turned out to be a cracker in bed once we met. Advantage there was she was hardly 25 kms away. We met within a week of moving to text. Here it has been 3 weeks of texting so far.

Note that she is not jumping on a call either.

It's not shyness.

That said I have found little correlation between this sort of text discourse and how a girl "performs" when she shows up.

I think most super hot seeking girls field so many inquiries that it's just fatiguing to give every guy the honor of more detailed responses. I'm sure most inquiries end up in cheapskates and girls think they wasted their time and don't want to do the first act performance until they know they're speaking to an actually well capitalized guy.

I try to get to the point I'm quoting an arrangement as soon as practical so it's clear I'm serious and need them at attention.

[Steve 9696]

Any thoughts, ideas on handling shy girls?

I am chatting one up, we moved to text. She stays about 150 kms away from me making it a little challenge to schedule. Pics are pretty (of course, in person might turn out to be a dud), seems like a decent girl. No chat about money yet. Neither have I spoken about sex. I know though that she has had one arrangement before with intimacy.

The challenge is her respones are usually one word / line. A bit difficult to keep the conversation going.

So, why am I investing time? Pics look solid 8. A previous experience of such one line responder turned out to be a cracker in bed once we met. Advantage there was she was hardly 25 kms away. We met within a week of moving to text. Here it has been 3 weeks of texting so far.

Note that she is not jumping on a call either.

Sounds like you have as much experience as anyone here, having bedded a one liner. I don't have time for them. I even say in my bio if you reply with one word reply's and don't engage in conversation then we aren't a match.

[Gfefan]

Any thoughts, ideas on handling shy girls?

I am chatting one up, we moved to text. She stays about 150 kms away from me making it a little challenge to schedule. Pics are pretty (of course, in person might turn out to be a dud), seems like a decent girl. No chat about money yet. Neither have I spoken about sex. I know though that she has had one arrangement before with intimacy.

The challenge is her respones are usually one word / line. A bit difficult to keep the conversation going.

So, why am I investing time? Pics look solid 8. A previous experience of such one line responder turned out to be a cracker in bed once we met. Advantage there was she was hardly 25 kms away. We met within a week of moving to text. Here it has been 3 weeks of texting so far.

Note that she is not jumping on a call either.

[FilthyBeaver]

If they catfish me I'm done. Believe it or not, it's only happened once. Every girl I've ever actually met was as good or better looking in person. I once had a girl setup for meet and greet at a local restaurant. Her pics were at least 5 years younger than her. I was really turned off. On top of that she asked to be compensated for our initial meeting to which I said no. I sat through dinner with her because I'm open to giving up a little standard on my looks if they have a brain or are interesting and she wasn't. Wasted evening, wasted dinner.

Along with the other thread I find most sites unreliable which is why I like to shop in person if looking for a pro. The only defense against older pics and filters is a video call or actual meeting and I'm not a fan of video calls. On seeking it just adds to the slog.

If they ask you for a number before meeting, lets say they ask you for 500 usd and you agree. But when you meet her, she doesn't look nearly as good as her pictures. Do you just call it off or do you tell her how it is and say she's only worth 300?

Yes, it sounds like you are much more price insensitive than I. If I had your money, I think I would just stay stateside and work seeking there.

[AmericanPi]

Did you do a video call check before agreeing to the date? Did you pay the agreed on amount even though she was a full 2 point below what you thought she was?

Even video calls these days have some sort of filter on them.

I didn't. I never do. The reason is I don't want my face screen captured and put into a face finder. Anonymity. So I take my chances. It's the Russian roulette of life. It makes it interesting. Sometimes you draw 21 and sometimes you get snake eyes.

[Kazeu]

Did you do a video call check before agreeing to the date? Did you pay the agreed on amount even though she was a full 2 point below what you thought she was?

Even video calls these days have some sort of filter on them.

Just got off off of a minor loss two nights ago.

Met a Latina chick and her pics were amazing. This is a girl that any man would notice walking into a restaurant. Light skinned, very large breasts disproportionate to her body, small skinny frame, just beautiful.

Then we meet at the restaurant. I mean, it's definitely her, but one thing is 100% certain. She was using filters on all of her photos. Like the kind that basically bump you up 2 full points. She wasn't ugly. She just was not the flawless queen she pretended to be. Darker, less radiant, skin not quite as flawless. I felt duped.

Then when she was naked, it turns out her big beautiful tits were a poorly done boob job. Like they had no natural appeal to them, huge scars under the boobs.

Just felt bait and switched.

[Steve 9696]

Just got off off of a minor loss two nights ago.

Met a Latina chick and her pics were amazing. This is a girl that any man would notice walking into a restaurant. Light skinned, very large breasts disproportionate to her body, small skinny frame, just beautiful.

Then we meet at the restaurant. I mean, it's definitely her, but one thing is 100% certain. She was using filters on all of her photos. Like the kind that basically bump you up 2 full points. She wasn't ugly. She just was not the flawless queen she pretended to be. Darker, less radiant, skin not quite as flawless. I felt duped.

Then when she was naked, it turns out her big beautiful tits were a poorly done boob job. Like they had no natural appeal to them, huge scars under the boobs.

Just felt bait and switched.

Yeah filters have gotten waaay too good. My girl def got at least 2 points maybe three. Like a six seven to a nine. Boo! It is so hard to tell these days.

My bait and switch was on the sex tho. Her bod was great. Tho the rare full Bush. But the sex was the fail part. Oh well we are generally killing it so not sweating it.

That said I do filter myself a bit. My abs shots are real - good lighting! But I softly face filter. Not much. But maybe 1 point. FaceApp is absolutely amazing and will show u what is possible.

[AmericanPi]

I know I post a lot here about marvelous wins. And I do feel I am quite lucky with prob 95% success in last few years where success is that I generally like the girl and we have good sex. And of course a fair share of home runs where there is more than just like. And the sex is more than just good.

But I recently had prob the worst sex of my life. At least it was amusing..

Just got off off of a minor loss two nights ago.

Met a Latina chick and her pics were amazing. This is a girl that any man would notice walking into a restaurant. Light skinned, very large breasts disproportionate to her body, small skinny frame, just beautiful.

Then we meet at the restaurant. I mean, it's definitely her, but one thing is 100% certain. She was using filters on all of her photos. Like the kind that basically bump you up 2 full points. She wasn't ugly. She just was not the flawless queen she pretended to be. Darker, less radiant, skin not quite as flawless. I felt duped.

Then when she was naked, it turns out her big beautiful tits were a poorly done boob job. Like they had no natural appeal to them, huge scars under the boobs.

Just felt bait and switched.

[Gfefan]

I negotiate at M&G.

I have a range for each city. A cap max I will agree if the girl checks all the boxes. Meet and greet, dinner / drinks, various topics, ease in to sexual conversations, understand go / no-go (careful how you do it. You don't want it to sound like $ for sex but essentially that is what it is), calibrate for $.

Let her pitch first. No matter where they pitch, I make a lower counter offer (they go higher than their previous. So, my goal is to get them back to what they normally get).

Give or take a 100, and set. Also, I never heaitate to walk away.

I made the mistake of negotating with a hot naked girl, with a bulge in my pants. Like you said. Bad idea. Learned from my mistake. Never again.

Always M&G to settle on $. Not before, not after.

If they ask you for a number before meeting, lets say they ask you for 500 usd and you agree. But when you meet her, she doesn't look nearly as good as her pictures. Do you just call it off or do you tell her how it is and say she's only worth 300?

Yes, it sounds like you are much more price insensitive than I. If I had your money, I think I would just stay stateside and work seeking there.

[Akibono]

If they ask you for a number before meeting, lets say they ask you for 500 usd and you agree. But when you meet her, she doesn't look nearly as good as her pictures. Do you just call it off or do you tell her how it is and say she's only worth 300?

Yes, it sounds like you are much more price insensitive than I. If I had your money, I think I would just stay stateside and work seeking there.

If a girl does not meet expectations, I would cut my losses. In your case, I would offer her 100 and say we are not that compatible. Nego a lower amount usually does not work. The girl had an expectation and there is no good way out. You would probably get a crappy session that would not be worth 300 even if you agree to that price. There are more fish to catch.

[Kazeu]

If they ask you for a number before meeting, lets say they ask you for 500 usd and you agree. But when you meet her, she doesn't look nearly as good as her pictures. Do you just call it off or do you tell her how it is and say she's only worth 300?

Yes, it sounds like you are much more price insensitive than I. If I had your money, I think I would just stay stateside and work seeking there.

I'm a little less money concerned than most. I don't haggle except once in Prague and once in Tijuana. I find about half seeking girls make sure you're not wasting their time by asking for a number before the first meet, which I get and oblige but I don't bring it up I let her. Some bring it up in person and I respect them looking me in the eye and giving me a number. I don't like it I say no thanks and meeting adjourned unless they're flexible in which case they'll ask me what I'm conformable with. Once had a seeking girl naked on first date, making out and she stops and asks how much, lmao. I told her $500 and she asked if I can do that every time, pmsl, and I say yes and we continue.

Also depends on how horny I am at the time and whether I see this as a short term or long term thing. Was with a hot German girl in Frankfurt that I was never going to see again and aside from being really attractive she had a brain to match. After 4/5 hours we went to my room and I have her 1500 to spend the night and the number didn't come up until we were in the room. Didn't regret a thing. If I'm looking for a LT SB I'll generally agree to 500 with no resistance at all I start to weigh things put around 800 and 1 k makes me uncomfortable. Once had a girl ask me for 1 k and I didn't commit even though she checked every box for me and then some. She ghosted me but we connected again about 8 months later and I ended up giving her 700 after we had sex and she was fine with it until we broke up about 9 mo later.

So in summary, it depends.

[The Cane]

We try a little fucking but she wants me to fuck her in the ass not her pussy.

Well that sounds like it was the best opportunity of the night bruh! LMAO! Wish I could have been there to help you out. It's a dirty job but somebody got to do it LOLOLOLOL! Shy, fuckable girl walking around with dirty thoughts in her head about getting cornholed by a stranger! Who knows? I mean if you had run up in that butt hole then maybe she would have gone ape shit nuts and turned into a nympho vixen! But then again, maybe she was just petrified of getting pregnant heeheehee! Either way, her anus definitely would have felt The Cane! Hahahahaha!

[FilthyBeaver]

I'm a little less money concerned than most. I don't haggle except once in Prague and once in Tijuana. I find about half seeking girls make sure you're not wasting their time by asking for a number before the first meet, which I get and oblige but I don't bring it up I let her. Some bring it up in person and I respect them looking me in the eye and giving me a number. I don't like it I say no thanks and meeting adjourned unless they're flexible in which case they'll ask me what I'm conformable with. Once had a seeking girl naked on first date, making out and she stops and asks how much, lmao. I told her $500 and she asked if I can do that every time, pmsl, and I say yes and we continue.

Also depends on how horny I am at the time and whether I see this as a short term or long term thing. Was with a hot German girl in Frankfurt that I was never going to see again and aside from being really attractive she had a brain to match. After 4/5 hours we went to my room and I have her 1500 to spend the night and the number didn't come up until we were in the room. Didn't regret a thing. If I'm looking for a LT SB I'll generally agree to 500 with no resistance at all I start to weigh things put around 800 and 1 k makes me uncomfortable. Once had a girl ask me for 1 k and I didn't commit even though she checked every box for me and then some. She ghosted me but we connected again about 8 months later and I ended up giving her 700 after we had sex and she was fine with it until we broke up about 9 mo later.

So in summary, it depends.

Thanks for the detailed response Steve. Very informative. I think I would feel uncomfortable going into something without knowing how much it was going to cost me. What if the girl you gave $300 usd to still looked sad. Would you have given her another $100? But once you start negogiating it kills the illusion doesn't it? I had one seeking girl come up to my apartment in Bogota, and if I remember correctly she wanted 400 k, she was a bit full of herself, but personally she wasn't worth 400 k to me, I had countered with 200 k and we settled on 300 k, but in retrospect I should have let her walk, nice enough but not really my type, that's what happens when you try to negotiate with a naked girl on top of you.

[FilthyBeaver]

I see nothing wrong with this. CIM without condom with someone you just met is pretty f'in good in my book.

I know I post a lot here about marvelous wins. And I do feel I am quite lucky with prob 95% success in last few years where success is that I generally like the girl and we have good sex. And of course a fair share of home runs where there is more than just like. And the sex is more than just good.

But I recently had prob the worst sex of my life. At least it was amusing.

We met up and had some nice Italian. She was def not as pretty as her pics but def fuckable. A bit shy, she dove into her menu and I had to kinda draw her out. After sharing a bottle of wine and finding out she is a genuinely nice person I bounced her to another bar because I was still not sure if she was comfortable. After that extra drink she asks what I want to do and it's on.

But in the room, soooo weird. She pops onto the bed and asks me what I like. I say I like kissing and blowjob. Not sure why she asks because we really did neither. We exchange a few pecks. Meh. And then her blowjob was horrible. She didn't want to without condom and she kept her hand firmly planted where it barely went in her mouth. We try a little fucking but she wants me to fuck her in the ass not her pussy. I'm soft. She tries more BJ and I get a little licking without condom. Convince her to lick balls but she's very tentative. The whole thing was fucking weird. I love almost all slices of life and so I rolled with it, smiling at her various oddities and trying to push her towards something pleasurable.