Seeking Arrangements

[Kazeu]

If they ask you for a number before meeting, lets say they ask you for 500 usd and you agree. But when you meet her, she doesn't look nearly as good as her pictures. Do you just call it off or do you tell her how it is and say she's only worth 300?

Yes, it sounds like you are much more price insensitive than I. If I had your money, I think I would just stay stateside and work seeking there.

I'm a little less money concerned than most. I don't haggle except once in Prague and once in Tijuana. I find about half seeking girls make sure you're not wasting their time by asking for a number before the first meet, which I get and oblige but I don't bring it up I let her. Some bring it up in person and I respect them looking me in the eye and giving me a number. I don't like it I say no thanks and meeting adjourned unless they're flexible in which case they'll ask me what I'm conformable with. Once had a seeking girl naked on first date, making out and she stops and asks how much, lmao. I told her $500 and she asked if I can do that every time, pmsl, and I say yes and we continue.

Also depends on how horny I am at the time and whether I see this as a short term or long term thing. Was with a hot German girl in Frankfurt that I was never going to see again and aside from being really attractive she had a brain to match. After 4/5 hours we went to my room and I have her 1500 to spend the night and the number didn't come up until we were in the room. Didn't regret a thing. If I'm looking for a LT SB I'll generally agree to 500 with no resistance at all I start to weigh things put around 800 and 1 k makes me uncomfortable. Once had a girl ask me for 1 k and I didn't commit even though she checked every box for me and then some. She ghosted me but we connected again about 8 months later and I ended up giving her 700 after we had sex and she was fine with it until we broke up about 9 mo later.

So in summary, it depends.

[The Cane]

We try a little fucking but she wants me to fuck her in the ass not her pussy.

Well that sounds like it was the best opportunity of the night bruh! LMAO! Wish I could have been there to help you out. It's a dirty job but somebody got to do it LOLOLOLOL! Shy, fuckable girl walking around with dirty thoughts in her head about getting cornholed by a stranger! Who knows? I mean if you had run up in that butt hole then maybe she would have gone ape shit nuts and turned into a nympho vixen! But then again, maybe she was just petrified of getting pregnant heeheehee! Either way, her anus definitely would have felt The Cane! Hahahahaha!

[FilthyBeaver]

I'm a little less money concerned than most. I don't haggle except once in Prague and once in Tijuana. I find about half seeking girls make sure you're not wasting their time by asking for a number before the first meet, which I get and oblige but I don't bring it up I let her. Some bring it up in person and I respect them looking me in the eye and giving me a number. I don't like it I say no thanks and meeting adjourned unless they're flexible in which case they'll ask me what I'm conformable with. Once had a seeking girl naked on first date, making out and she stops and asks how much, lmao. I told her $500 and she asked if I can do that every time, pmsl, and I say yes and we continue.

Also depends on how horny I am at the time and whether I see this as a short term or long term thing. Was with a hot German girl in Frankfurt that I was never going to see again and aside from being really attractive she had a brain to match. After 4/5 hours we went to my room and I have her 1500 to spend the night and the number didn't come up until we were in the room. Didn't regret a thing. If I'm looking for a LT SB I'll generally agree to 500 with no resistance at all I start to weigh things put around 800 and 1 k makes me uncomfortable. Once had a girl ask me for 1 k and I didn't commit even though she checked every box for me and then some. She ghosted me but we connected again about 8 months later and I ended up giving her 700 after we had sex and she was fine with it until we broke up about 9 mo later.

So in summary, it depends.

Thanks for the detailed response Steve. Very informative. I think I would feel uncomfortable going into something without knowing how much it was going to cost me. What if the girl you gave $300 usd to still looked sad. Would you have given her another $100? But once you start negogiating it kills the illusion doesn't it? I had one seeking girl come up to my apartment in Bogota, and if I remember correctly she wanted 400 k, she was a bit full of herself, but personally she wasn't worth 400 k to me, I had countered with 200 k and we settled on 300 k, but in retrospect I should have let her walk, nice enough but not really my type, that's what happens when you try to negotiate with a naked girl on top of you.

[FilthyBeaver]

I see nothing wrong with this. CIM without condom with someone you just met is pretty f'in good in my book.

I know I post a lot here about marvelous wins. And I do feel I am quite lucky with prob 95% success in last few years where success is that I generally like the girl and we have good sex. And of course a fair share of home runs where there is more than just like. And the sex is more than just good.

But I recently had prob the worst sex of my life. At least it was amusing.

We met up and had some nice Italian. She was def not as pretty as her pics but def fuckable. A bit shy, she dove into her menu and I had to kinda draw her out. After sharing a bottle of wine and finding out she is a genuinely nice person I bounced her to another bar because I was still not sure if she was comfortable. After that extra drink she asks what I want to do and it's on.

But in the room, soooo weird. She pops onto the bed and asks me what I like. I say I like kissing and blowjob. Not sure why she asks because we really did neither. We exchange a few pecks. Meh. And then her blowjob was horrible. She didn't want to without condom and she kept her hand firmly planted where it barely went in her mouth. We try a little fucking but she wants me to fuck her in the ass not her pussy. I'm soft. She tries more BJ and I get a little licking without condom. Convince her to lick balls but she's very tentative. The whole thing was fucking weird. I love almost all slices of life and so I rolled with it, smiling at her various oddities and trying to push her towards something pleasurable.

[Steve 9696]

I know I post a lot here about marvelous wins. And I do feel I am quite lucky with prob 95% success in last few years where success is that I generally like the girl and we have good sex. And of course a fair share of home runs where there is more than just like. And the sex is more than just good.

But I recently had prob the worst sex of my life. At least it was amusing.

We met up and had some nice Italian. She was def not as pretty as her pics but def fuckable. A bit shy, she dove into her menu and I had to kinda draw her out. After sharing a bottle of wine and finding out she is a genuinely nice person I bounced her to another bar because I was still not sure if she was comfortable. After that extra drink she asks what I want to do and it's on.

But in the room, soooo weird. She pops onto the bed and asks me what I like. I say I like kissing and blowjob. Not sure why she asks because we really did neither. We exchange a few pecks. Meh. And then her blowjob was horrible. She didn't want to without condom and she kept her hand firmly planted where it barely went in her mouth. We try a little fucking but she wants me to fuck her in the ass not her pussy. I'm soft. She tries more BJ and I get a little licking without condom. Convince her to lick balls but she's very tentative. The whole thing was fucking weird. I love almost all slices of life and so I rolled with it, smiling at her various oddities and trying to push her towards something pleasurable.

I'm the end, she's blowing me without condom but her head is between me and the action. It feels pretty good but I assume it's mostly a handy given her prior reticence. Strangely I feel the build and have a mild orgasm. I guess she really did have it in her mouth after all because she says I got cum in her mouth and I can see some on her lips and chin. She doesn't protest much which is surprising since for the first half hour she treated my dick like some scary foreign object.

So all in all a nice date and the strangest worst sex of my life. I will do better next time.

[Steve 9696]

Thanks for the detailed response Steve. Very informative. I think I would feel uncomfortable going into something without knowing how much it was going to cost me. What if the girl you gave $300 usd to still looked sad. Would you have given her another $100? But once you start negogiating it kills the illusion doesn't it? I had one seeking girl come up to my apartment in Bogota, and if I remember correctly she wanted 400 k, she was a bit full of herself, but personally she wasn't worth 400 k to me, I had countered with 200 k and we settled on 300 k, but in retrospect I should have let her walk, nice enough but not really my type, that's what happens when you try to negotiate with a naked girl on top of you.

Although I have done it a few times with a nebulous figure I agree with you and now virtually always negotiate ahead of time.

[Kazeu]

Thanks for the detailed response Steve. Very informative. I think I would feel uncomfortable going into something without knowing how much it was going to cost me. What if the girl you gave $300 usd to still looked sad. Would you have given her another $100? But once you start negogiating it kills the illusion doesn't it? I had one seeking girl come up to my apartment in Bogota, and if I remember correctly she wanted 400 k, she was a bit full of herself, but personally she wasn't worth 400 k to me, I had countered with 200 k and we settled on 300 k, but in retrospect I should have let her walk, nice enough but not really my type, that's what happens when you try to negotiate with a naked girl on top of you.

It varies and depends a lot on how much prostitution is frowned on in a given country. In Medellin it's totally legal and everywhere which drives the price down. I was fucking hotties there for 200 k cop. Like $70. So yeah you can totally get a seeking girl in Medellin for 400 k cop. Buenos Aires frowns badly on prostitution and that drives prices up. I think it would not be hard to get a date for $200 in BA. I didn't try to negotiate much. I don't usually internationally because it's so reasonable but try to in the US tho girls are sticking hard on 500 $ usd and hard to even find that.

There is a a strong correlation between hooker and SA prices. SA girl is approx same price but hooker is an hour and SA girl several hours to all night for same price.

When in BA I found Geisha Girls looked legit but did not use them. Did use them as a price proxy. They have affiliates in different cities so you can see Medellin vs BA pricing and that kinda correlates w my thinking.

Ps Im kinda a softie. My first night girl we didnt discuss price. We had an amazing time and shes a legit 9.5 with perfect English. I went to give her $200 usd and she seemed very sad. I gave her another hundred so $300 total and she seemed very happy. So 200-300 covers the sad to happy scale. 😋 Other girl same week was $200 straight up and fine with that. She was an 8.5 with large naturals and ended up bareback in heat of the moment.

Oh and Mexico is not nearly as cheap as u would think. Mexico City and surrounding area is like $220-260. And Cancun is off the charts nearly US prices (per a friend. Never been). If u are looking to keep price down Brazil and Colombia are the leaders.

[Steve 9696]

Very curious about how you go about negogiating rates, Do you negogiate at all? Or is 200 - 300 usd just what they ask for and you take it or leave it. Or is that what you just end up giving and you don't talk about money before the deed. You seem very experienced in seeking, would me mind divulging how much you've paid on average in other countries? Colombia, Mexico, etc. The reason I ask is that $200 to $300 usd seems a bit high for Argentina. When I was exploring seeking in Colombia, I was getting girls asking for for 400 k to 500 k pesos which at the time was probably a bit more than $120 usd. Why would it be so much higher in Argentina? Expecially when "normal" prepagos on argentinian websites can be had for prices similar to Colombia. I've heard this $200 to $300 dollars rate repeated several times in this forum. I'm interested in how accurate this really is. There isn't much info out there on Buenos Aires.

It varies and depends a lot on how much prostitution is frowned on in a given country. In Medellin it's totally legal and everywhere which drives the price down. I was fucking hotties there for 200 k cop. Like $70. So yeah you can totally get a seeking girl in Medellin for 400 k cop. Buenos Aires frowns badly on prostitution and that drives prices up. I think it would not be hard to get a date for $200 in BA. I didn't try to negotiate much. I don't usually internationally because it's so reasonable but try to in the US tho girls are sticking hard on 500 $ usd and hard to even find that.

There is a a strong correlation between hooker and SA prices. SA girl is approx same price but hooker is an hour and SA girl several hours to all night for same price.

When in BA I found Geisha Girls looked legit but did not use them. Did use them as a price proxy. They have affiliates in different cities so you can see Medellin vs BA pricing and that kinda correlates w my thinking.

Ps Im kinda a softie. My first night girl we didnt discuss price. We had an amazing time and shes a legit 9.5 with perfect English. I went to give her $200 usd and she seemed very sad. I gave her another hundred so $300 total and she seemed very happy. So 200-300 covers the sad to happy scale. 😋 Other girl same week was $200 straight up and fine with that. She was an 8.5 with large naturals and ended up bareback in heat of the moment.

Oh and Mexico is not nearly as cheap as u would think. Mexico City and surrounding area is like $220-260. And Cancun is off the charts nearly US prices (per a friend. Never been). If u are looking to keep price down Brazil and Colombia are the leaders.

[Kazeu]

BA is a lovely city and you can find great seeking girls there. I've had three amazing experiences in recent years. It is not cheap $200-300 USD but lovely "real" dates and girls.

That said the remainder of the scene bites. And So Paulo has the best girls scene in the world IMO. Scandallo in particular needs to be every man's life goal. And other great spots like Bomboa and Casarao. I would highly recommend you spend max girl time in SP.

Very curious about how you go about negogiating rates, Do you negogiate at all? Or is 200 - 300 usd just what they ask for and you take it or leave it. Or is that what you just end up giving and you don't talk about money before the deed. You seem very experienced in seeking, would me mind divulging how much you've paid on average in other countries? Colombia, Mexico, etc. The reason I ask is that $200 to $300 usd seems a bit high for Argentina. When I was exploring seeking in Colombia, I was getting girls asking for for 400 k to 500 k pesos which at the time was probably a bit more than $120 usd. Why would it be so much higher in Argentina? Expecially when "normal" prepagos on argentinian websites can be had for prices similar to Colombia. I've heard this $200 to $300 dollars rate repeated several times in this forum. I'm interested in how accurate this really is. There isn't much info out there on Buenos Aires.

[Gfefan]

FWIW, I don't lie at all. In fact, I'm outright Honest during M&G that I'm not looking for a relationship. I'm looking for fun both ways. I also make it clear that I'm married and I need to be absolutely discrete.

Most girls love the fact that I am open and Honest. Some girls have walked out. And no regrets. Those that stayed back have given me the best and I give them the best.

To each his own and I'm not saying one way is better than another but if anybody ever wants to know what I'm thinking, they're going to get an honest, mostly unfiltered (with a little tact), answer.

I am not, will not, ever be in the market for a wife. I made that mistake once, was the exact same person I am today when we got married 20 yrs ago and at some point that was no longer good enough. Nevermind the trophy house, cars, number of zeros in the accounts and magazine worthy vacations.

I won't tell a woman who is looking for a husband that I am looking for a wife. There's absolutely nothing wrong with anything you wrote, it's just not something I would do. With that said, I am convinced that the cast majority of non-pros and even semi pros would delete their accounts tomorrow if one were to convince them they intend to go further than the bedroom. It's human nature. Who wouldn't want to walk away from a shit job with a shit boss and shit wages and would enable them to stop hustling and being hustled by some random prick a few times a month?

Don't get me wrong, I like seeking for what it is and what I've been able to pull. But it is a slog by any definition, especially in the US for both sides. I've never been dishonest as far as what I wanted, in fact I cut it off with someone who talked about marriage because I didn't want to hurt her.

So is the general consensus to play along with the goal in mind? Not judging just curious.

FYI what drew me ro seeking years ago was the fact that I was reading a news article that talked about it. I was so dumbfounded by the fact people were doing this I signed up just to have platonic meetings so I could hear their stories and experiences. It wasn't until the 3rd or 4th girl I realized that the whole sugar thing might actually work for me. After the ex moved out my life changed forever and can't ever see being married again. It makes no financial or emotional sense at my age.

[Steve 9696]

Whatsup Perverts,

Anyone know range of rate for BA seeking? It peso is down like crazy.

I might be in BA later this year, but there's not much info here on Argentina.

I am wondering if I should spend a week mongering in BA make the extra trip to go to Sao Palo or Rio?

I will already be in BA so the trip to Brazil would have to mean its way way better than BA.

Thanks!

BA is a lovely city and you can find great seeking girls there. I've had three amazing experiences in recent years. It is not cheap — $200-300 USD but lovely "real" dates and girls.

That said the remainder of the scene bites. And São Paulo has the best girls scene in the world IMO. Scandallo in particular needs to be every man's life goal. And other great spots like Bomboa and Casarao. I would highly recommend you spend max girl time in SP.

[FilthyBeaver]

Long term they want a wallet. Short term they want to pay bills and maybe have some fun. Be straight up and I'm guessing most are takers. Sometimes I spend some extra money if I'm not getting the right vibe (e. G. Expensive scarf, dress, whatever) on top of the agreed upon price but I never meet someone with the intent to hop in the sack immediately. I try to meet them prior to a meal and gauge the chemistry / interest during the meal and then let them be my "tour guide" before dinner or heading back to my hotel. Has worked well for me so far but the girls flat out stating they want on commitment on a sugaring site makes no sense to me. At best there are a bunch of players they need to wade through at worst they get a bunch of socially awkward weirdos that couldn't nab a girl on their own without the money aspect.

I use seeking to find open doors that would otherwise be closed without a lot of effort, and dare I say it, rejection. What happens after that is up to my wallet, my game, and some luck but I honestly think the order is the exact opposite of what I just wrote. The smart or hot ones have tons of options, why they're with me still baffles me to this second.

We all have our approaches but I don't see any need to set an expectation that's likely not reality. This was a timely post because I just had this exact thing. Well not exactly marriage minded. But wants a long term weekly SD. Here's what I said. Likely date next week.

Yep totally get you are looking for regular. I'm not in xxxx and can't be that guy. But I am coming to xxxx later this week and would love to entertain you in the meantime. Allowance of course.

I travel a lot for work and have def flown girls I super vibe with to be with me so that's def in the cards. But requires a special vibe beyond the usual obviously.

So if you are interested in an amazing time while you find your local man I may be just the thing. Whatcha drinking? Espresso martini?

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For those newer at this, In the Seeking game dept notice it ends in a question. Always end with a question.

And she came back right away interested in exploring same. I also think most girls on SA are comfortable with some amount of polyamory. My profile clearly says Im gonna fly in and well have an awesome time. And any girl with the slightest spark will realize ima gonna fly somewhere else and fuck someone else. But it doesnt seem to cause them pause at all.

[LivingFossil]

Whatsup Perverts,

Anyone know range of rate for BA seeking? It peso is down like crazy.

I might be in BA later this year, but there's not much info here on Argentina.

I am wondering if I should spend a week mongering in BA make the extra trip to go to Sao Palo or Rio?

I will already be in BA so the trip to Brazil would have to mean its way way better than BA.

Thanks!

[FilthyBeaver]

To each his own and I'm not saying one way is better than another but if anybody ever wants to know what I'm thinking, they're going to get an honest, mostly unfiltered (with a little tact), answer.

I am not, will not, ever be in the market for a wife. I made that mistake once, was the exact same person I am today when we got married 20 yrs ago and at some point that was no longer good enough. Nevermind the trophy house, cars, number of zeros in the accounts and magazine worthy vacations.

I won't tell a woman who is looking for a husband that I am looking for a wife. There's absolutely nothing wrong with anything you wrote, it's just not something I would do. With that said, I am convinced that the cast majority of non-pros and even semi pros would delete their accounts tomorrow if one were to convince them they intend to go further than the bedroom. It's human nature. Who wouldn't want to walk away from a shit job with a shit boss and shit wages and would enable them to stop hustling and being hustled by some random prick a few times a month?

Don't get me wrong, I like seeking for what it is and what I've been able to pull. But it is a slog by any definition, especially in the US for both sides. I've never been dishonest as far as what I wanted, in fact I cut it off with someone who talked about marriage because I didn't want to hurt her.

So is the general consensus to play along with the goal in mind? Not judging just curious.

FYI what drew me ro seeking years ago was the fact that I was reading a news article that talked about it. I was so dumbfounded by the fact people were doing this I signed up just to have platonic meetings so I could hear their stories and experiences. It wasn't until the 3rd or 4th girl I realized that the whole sugar thing might actually work for me. After the ex moved out my life changed forever and can't ever see being married again. It makes no financial or emotional sense at my age.

If they say they are marriage minded, why not treat them like you would a woman on a regular date and court them like you would a woman not on seeking? Would you throw bunch of money at someone like that? I would not. I would mention you are marriage minded too, take them on dates, and pay for the things a BF would. And change your profile and make it out to be you are good husband material versus rich monger material. That would mean photos of animals, going to charity events ETC.

I was looking for long term on seeking not the hooker types so I actually liked it when women put that down.

[MiamiBoy1]

With younger generation, going through GF's phone is standard. My guess is jealous BF or girl freaked out. Whatever it is, just move on.

If that's the case, it makes sense to delete SA profile as well. But no, they are still online and active on SA. I agree, got to move on. But when you have let's say, 5 contacts, and you lose 2 in 1 day, that hurts.