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11-11-23 19:18 #5177
Posts: 236Nice optics but.
Had a score in the US.
Been chatting this girl for over a month. Let's call her be.
We were supposed to have met long ago but something came up for her. Met last night finally. She walks in and I'm like "wow. I want to do this one tonight".
Drinks / dinner, amazing talks, chemistry. We speak about allowance but didn't have explicit agreement.
After 3 hours at dinner table, we move it to my place. More drinks and try initite. She backs away and wants to agree on ppm. Little but of a turn off but we agree on 700. Way too high but what the heck. I have a 8/9 in my room. Let's go. She wanted condoms but I talked her out of it.
To the bed, she straps me, kneels in front, a decent BJ. We kiss, we make out. Then, she kinda forces me to sit on the bed edge, and goes in to straddle me. Takes me all the way in while I'm chewing up her beautiful nipples. She rides me like crazy. We swap to a little bit doggy, then Mish. I pound her. She screams and asks me to come inside. I wasn't sure. She says she is on BC and wants me cum inside. For whatever reason, I just pulled out and came on her tummy.
Maybe she did not like it. I don't know. Wiped clean, went for a shower. Then, we had another drink. I try round 2 but she says she has a weird tummy pain.
We go to sleep. She stayed over (kinda told me she doesn't want to drive drunk).
Next morning, we wake up and I try again. Same atory. She says her tummy hurts. And left.
I have never paid 700 for a single fuck. Sitting here, I don't know what to make out of this. Don't know if I will repeat. Optics are great but some bedroom chemistry missing. Off bedroom chemistry is great.
What do ya'll think?
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11-11-23 02:53 #5176
Posts: 3160Originally Posted by Vendelo [View Original Post]
One of the dumb mantras on the site here is that line because it assumes everyone is the same and that women are only interested in money. If you are retired and are not capable of earning money, you can pay with time and brag about how little you spend.
If you do not see a woman for months and show up at her doorstep with money, is she going to fuck you? The answer is likely no if she has a BF and unlikely if she has a possessive SD, so money is not just enough. You have to pay with time too.
I give my gal $500 a month so she didn't have to work, and guys here are like I am giving her a million dollars. Still, her #1 concern is not how much I give her but how often I can see her. She wants to be with me 24-7.
If she were a hooker, money not my being with her would be her #1 concern.
And ironically I would be ahead financially if she cared more about money and less about time given the travel expenses and lost wages.
One of my gal's friends is engaged to an American but he only sees her like once every six months. Maybe his job is such that he cannot leave. I don't know. She is really hot, and I suspect he supports her because she does not have a job. Still even though she is engaged, she came onto a friend of mine because IMO she was not getting her sexual, companionship, and emotional needs met.
If you have a GF and you just pay her and do not spend time with her, and she is happy with that then I would say you have a hooker and not a GF.
For me, helping out an in demand woman financially is a bare minimum. It is like not smelling disgusting when you are near her. Why does no one ever say, "Don't shower for six months and see if she stays. " To me, it is literally the same thing.
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11-10-23 21:39 #5175
Posts: 2672The Midwestern
Originally Posted by Midwestern [View Original Post]
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11-10-23 20:49 #5174
Posts: 2672OT: Great Perspective
This is long but a very worthy listen of a divorce lawyers perspective on marriage and monogamy and a lot of related cultural issues. The first ten minutes are great but I ended up listening to the whole thing. And he has some gems as late as 50 minutes in about the Ten Commandments for example. Just a very engaging guy who puts a lot of stuff in perspective.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o5z8...hiteUnderbelly
Hat tip to Bearsi who posted this in a Brasil thread on another topic.
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11-10-23 12:55 #5173
Posts: 1202What is this position called?
The other day, while my SB was riding me in reverse CG, I sat up and pushed her head down, so she was now pretty much in k9. While in my sitting position, with my legs spread in front of me on the bed, I started thrusting and the penetration was deep. I've never done this position before and I would be surprised if it didn't have a name. It was a great position.
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11-07-23 17:29 #5172
Posts: 713Originally Posted by Vendelo [View Original Post]
Were you introduced to her family and friends? If not, she is not your GF.
Does she post about you on social media or you are always "behind the scenes" (as most sugar daddies paying for them trips)?
Do you live in the same city and share the same household? Let"s be realistic here, if you don't live in her town full time and only come down there for a week or two per year, chances are you are not in a relationship. And you both know that whatever you have is a short-term thing and most likely, not an exclusive one. You have zero control of each other's life if you don't live in the same city and don't share the same household. This is why I call BS when somebody says "I have multiple girlfriends in different countries". No dumbass, they are your SB's or fuck buddies, not your girlfriends, simply because you both are not committed.
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11-07-23 15:47 #5171
Posts: 6400Disagree
Originally Posted by Vendelo [View Original Post]
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11-07-23 15:27 #5170
Posts: 567Originally Posted by Vendelo [View Original Post]
I think the "but for" test applies.
If she would not be there but for your donation, she's your SB not your girlfriend.
Just like.
If they would not listen to your troubles but for your payment, it's your therapist not your confidant.
If you pay him, he's your personal trainer not your workout buddy. It doesn't mean you didn't enjoy going to the concert together and didn't have his family over for Christmas dinner and swapped Yuletides. It's just a definitional thing.
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11-07-23 04:53 #5169
Posts: 318Disagree
I'm not going to argue that particular situation but I most definitely have had gfs from Seeking. We've had exclusivity talks, spent days together, swapped std test results, and texted throughout the day for months on end while the relationship lasted. Yes I gave her money, sometimes more than we agreed to, but it is no different (in my mind) than seeing a girl my own age that didn't have her act together and constantly needed money except that I'd never see a girl my own age without her act together. There are as many reasons as there are girls out there for being on that site and some just want stability with an older guy. I had a beautiful girl half my age (literally) talk about marriage which scared the hell out of me causing me to pull back because I didn't want to hurt her. Call it what you want, in my book it's a GF / relationship. To be fair, I've also been more engaged than she was and gotten hurt so reality isn't lost on me but it's definitely possible to have a real GF from there. I've said this a million times but for the most part money isn't the driving factor for most of the girls there. There are just too many guys and too many options for them. They need to like you on some (or several other) levels and God bless them when they do. If I could tell my 17 year old self what I'd be getting away with when I was three times that age I probably would have kicked my own ass for lying to me.
Originally Posted by Vendelo [View Original Post]
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11-07-23 04:46 #5168
Posts: 2672Not my GF
Originally Posted by Vendelo [View Original Post]
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11-07-23 00:13 #5167
Posts: 445Not a GF
Originally Posted by Steve9696 [View Original Post]
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11-02-23 23:24 #5166
Posts: 2672CDMX Yes
Originally Posted by Simtel [View Original Post]
And the browsing can lead to greatness. That led to for example me shopping Madrid despite a great club and brothel scene there. And that lead to meeting the only legit ten I've ever encountered. And subsequently flying her to spend 4 days with said goddess in Athens. And I can now with a straight face say I had a legit ten as my girlfriend in all ways (for a short time). Would not have happened without an active subscription and nothing better to do than browse and chat up the girls. So it has unexpected side effects.
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11-02-23 16:45 #5165
Posts: 236Yes and no
Never been to CDMX. So, no comment there.
SA has been lot useful to me in EU. Less in US. However, it does produce outcomes. Requires work.
I don't pay 100 every month. I sign up, contact all the girls I "favorited" during non-sign up, chat, get numbers, operate off the phone and let subscripton expire. 3 or 4 months later, if I need fresh, I sign up again and repeat cycle.
Seeking usually sends you promo once you cancel subscription.
It's a lot of work, yes.
Originally Posted by Simtel [View Original Post]
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11-02-23 14:32 #5164
Posts: 567Originally Posted by Simtel [View Original Post]
But to me that's easily worth it. It's not even a question. It's expensive but it's kind of the only game in town for this sort of thing.
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11-02-23 06:59 #5163
Posts: 3Is SA really worth it?
Planning my first trip into CDMX. At the high price point for SA and it looking to still being a 1% numbers game is it really worth it for LA / CDMX? I been lucky with a much higher average using less costly alts in other locations (EU / Asia). Or am I way off based and haven't figured out no one is actually paying the 100/ month? I don't mind spending, I do mind throwing away money like everyone else.