Seeking Arrangements

[Gfefan]

Thanks to both of you on the advice.

Decided to drop the new hottie. Keeping her warm, though.

Going ahead with my regular because I owe her this one. She has been having a rough time and she just wants to see me and relax. I'm happy to do that for her because she has become a friend of mine over the years.

And, yes, we fuck like dogs.

No PPM, no transactions, no pressure on anything. She and I are absolutely just ourselves with each other.

We are intending to hit some swinger clubs and see how it goes.

I agree. A 3 some is very unlikely to occur. I suggest you try meeting new Girl 2 in the afternoon. Remember you haven't met her so she might be a disappointment. Have you video called her yet to see she is real? You can never truly know until you meet them, but a few video calls helps mitigate that risk.

So meet new Girl 2 in the early afternoon. If she is really amazing, ditch girl 1. But only if she is really an upgrade to girl 1.

I've juggled seeing 2 girls in the same day separately, and while stressful it can work well. Always have the more secure girl later in the day, and the less secure girl earlier. Atleast that's how I did it.

[Gfefan]

Similar habits here.

I play competitive sports (used to be a pro but no longer). No meat, hardly any fried food (yes, I have my cheat meals), lots of veggies and fruits. Quit smoking long time ago. Cutting down on alcohol (reduced intake to about 30% of what it was 3 years ago).

Yoga, swimming, running.

That's it. I don't do anything special to be able to fuck so many times. But, I can tell you that I fuck a lot less than I did 5 years ago. So, it is declining. I can only kick the can down the road.

There are some things you can do to enhance your experience. Go the gym regularly. Do cardio or some sports. I like to play a lot of racquet sports with weights at the gym and light yoga / stretching it helps. All these help raise your testosterone levels. Then eat healthily too. I enjoy my occasional steak and hamburger, but I eat a lot of fruits, veggies. I also took ED medication which helps a great deal.

Now in my 40's I find I can only really handle twice maybe 3 times per night. But my experience was quite unique in that I had tasked her with pleasing me so many times. Her payment was dependent on that so she had a huge incentive to keep me going. And it worked and I was lucky I found someone so compliant.

After that FKK experience, I had met other SB's and I tried negotiating the same or near similar situation with a huge bonus to their PPM. I suggested to them if they make me orgasm 6 times in one overnight I will double will their PPM. No SB ever could manage.

[FishMongerC]

There are some things you can do to enhance your experience. Go the gym regularly. Do cardio or some sports. I like to play a lot of racquet sports with weights at the gym and light yoga / stretching it helps. All these help raise your testosterone levels. Then eat healthily too. I enjoy my occasional steak and hamburger, but I eat a lot of fruits, veggies. I also took ED medication which helps a great deal.

Now in my 40's I find I can only really handle twice maybe 3 times per night. But my experience was quite unique in that I had tasked her with pleasing me so many times. Her payment was dependent on that so she had a huge incentive to keep me going. And it worked and I was lucky I found someone so compliant.

After that FKK experience, I had met other SB's and I tried negotiating the same or near similar situation with a huge bonus to their PPM. I suggested to them if they make me orgasm 6 times in one overnight I will double will their PPM. No SB ever could manage.

I think in my mid twenties I could go twice a night. I'm not questioning your comment I'm just wondering how? As horny as I've ever been I'd maybe squeeze off two. Am I normal? Are you normal? Are either of us abnormal? My Dr started checking my testosterone levels in my yearly physical blood work and it was in the toilet when I was 40 and who knows how low it was for how long before that. I wonder if that has something to do with it. I've got the money and discipline to pretty much nail the hottest girls I can possibly find (I won't settle for anything other than super hot in my book) and I just don't see how you guys can do this all night.

[Midwestern]

If she does this then she's worth it and a keeper.

Bareback, and she's into you, and she's at least an 8!

Not a bad idea.

I checked in on her but keeping minimal. She says she is better.

Went on to add that she ordered the books we discussed. Both of us are into reading which brought out some off bedroom chemistry.

I think few meets and I could slash the price. But, either way, if she doesn't fuck at least 3 or 4 times on a full night date, I'm out.

My preferred is dinner, drinks, fuck, then fuck again. Sleep.

Wake up, morning wood, fuck. Then, breakfast. Fuck, shower and leave.

If that doesn't work. Not worth my money.

[FilthyBeaver]

I think in my mid twenties I could go twice a night. I'm not questioning your comment I'm just wondering how? As horny as I've ever been I'd maybe squeeze off two. Am I normal? Are you normal? Are either of us abnormal? My Dr started checking my testosterone levels in my yearly physical blood work and it was in the toilet when I was 40 and who knows how low it was for how long before that. I wonder if that has something to do with it. I've got the money and discipline to pretty much nail the hottest girls I can possibly find (I won't settle for anything other than super hot in my book) and I just don't see how you guys can do this all night.

Back in 2013-ish, while visiting an FKK, I had negotiated with a lady to have 1 round every hour. For 8 consecutive hours. I wanted to see her overnight but had to catch a flight. I was in my 30 ths then. That is still my record.

[FishMongerC]

Back in 2013-ish, while visiting an FKK, I had negotiated with a lady to have 1 round every hour. For 8 consecutive hours. I wanted to see her overnight but had to catch a flight. I was in my 30 ths then. That is still my record.

I'm only in my 40's.

Eventually, it will give in but for now, enjoying while it lasts.

[Gfefan]

I'm only in my 40's.

Eventually, it will give in but for now, enjoying while it lasts.

Jesus christ I couldn't do that when I was 20. The thought of it now makes my back hurt and my dick sore. Good for you if you can pull this off.

[Gfefan]

Yet to gain any traction on price point but on the fuck point, she has already texted me back that "I would like to make more rounds. My body just didn't cooperate that day".

She won't go for this, as she has already revealed that she has some self esteem.

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[Midwestern]

She won't go for this, as she has already revealed that she has some self esteem.

Not a bad idea.

I checked in on her but keeping minimal. She says she is better.

Went on to add that she ordered the books we discussed. Both of us are into reading which brought out some off bedroom chemistry.

I think few meets and I could slash the price. But, either way, if she doesn't fuck at least 3 or 4 times on a full night date, I'm out.

My preferred is dinner, drinks, fuck, then fuck again. Sleep.

Wake up, morning wood, fuck. Then, breakfast. Fuck, shower and leave.

If that doesn't work. Not worth my money.

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[FilthyBeaver]

Jesus christ I couldn't do that when I was 20. The thought of it now makes my back hurt and my dick sore. Good for you if you can pull this off.

Not a bad idea.

I checked in on her but keeping minimal. She says she is better.

Went on to add that she ordered the books we discussed. Both of us are into reading which brought out some off bedroom chemistry.

I think few meets and I could slash the price. But, either way, if she doesn't fuck at least 3 or 4 times on a full night date, I'm out.

My preferred is dinner, drinks, fuck, then fuck again. Sleep.

Wake up, morning wood, fuck. Then, breakfast. Fuck, shower and leave.

If that doesn't work. Not worth my money.

[Akibono]

Not a bad idea.

I checked in on her but keeping minimal. She says she is better.

Went on to add that she ordered the books we discussed. Both of us are into reading which brought out some off bedroom chemistry.

I think few meets and I could slash the price. But, either way, if she doesn't fuck at least 3 or 4 times on a full night date, I'm out.

My preferred is dinner, drinks, fuck, then fuck again. Sleep.

Wake up, morning wood, fuck. Then, breakfast. Fuck, shower and leave.

If that doesn't work. Not worth my money.

Dream on. It ain't going to happen. Based on what she got away with, no way she will let you treat her like that. GPS.

[Gfefan]

Not a bad idea.

I checked in on her but keeping minimal. She says she is better.

Went on to add that she ordered the books we discussed. Both of us are into reading which brought out some off bedroom chemistry.

I think few meets and I could slash the price. But, either way, if she doesn't fuck at least 3 or 4 times on a full night date, I'm out.

My preferred is dinner, drinks, fuck, then fuck again. Sleep.

Wake up, morning wood, fuck. Then, breakfast. Fuck, shower and leave.

If that doesn't work. Not worth my money.

She let you bareback her and she seemed to be into the sex and into you. +1.

She is an 8/9. +1.

However, she did not want to go multiple rounds. -1.

You paid 700, which is a semi-crazy high price. To me, this is a wash, because this is also your fault too for paying too much.

And so, if it were me, I would see her a couple of more times and then tell her bye-bye because 700 is too much. Maybe she will like you by then, and she cuts the price to 500.

My 2 cents.

[The Cane]

Just realized that girls appreciate the fine dining, but they don't really need it. And only the most spoiled know the names of the Michelin spots anyways. Most girls are happy with a 28 dollar plate of food and a few drinks. And a Hilton."

Yeah, there's absolutely no need to be taking these girls to highbrow places to eat. When I was out there on SA, I found places offering meals from $25 to $50 per person max (drinks included) were fine. Stick to that plus $500 max on the "allowance" (I got away with $250 to bareback and sperm inside of a blue-eyed, blonde hottie) and a decent 3-star to 4-star hotel (I saved money on that too since we were fucking at my place), and you should be good! And if that isn't satisfactory enough for a spoiled, self-entitled baby, including $500 per meet max on the allowance, then I say walk until you find someone who will take that deal. For me $700 would definitely be too much. Then she's going to turnaround and not want to satisfy my sexual desire for her? I don't think so! Dude should have "nutted" in that pretty chick while the getting was good, then tell her to gets to stepping! Unless she agreed to lower her asking price. Then maybe another go. But other than that, it's done! Next!

[The Cane]

I saw this video service and was intrigued by the channel. There were other offerings but this one got me about a brothel owner named Freddy. He really ran an escort agency more than was a brothel owner.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R9kQuy90OGM

What struck me about this was how ethical this guy Freddy was and how much he cared about women and how hard he worked in comparison to the absolute shitbags in government. The government seized $10 million of his. Where did it go? Why did the state's attorney want this guy's client list so badly? Did he the want it so he could blackmail his way into a higher office?

But this guy Freddy is amazing. I would have love to have been one of his clients.

I watched the one with "Freddy" too. Very interesting, including that he said a couple of lawyers with the District Attorney's office were clients of his as well LOL! Not a surprise at all. But, like one of the comments to the video noted, I would like to hear from some of the girls who worked for him to hear what they have to say about Freddy and how he ran the business and treated them. Just to get perspectives other than his own on how things were and what went down. But, he certainly does come across as shooting straight though. Thing is, plenty of scumbags are good at doing that! I wonder what others who know him and who dealt with him would have to say about dealing with Mr. Freddy?

[FilthyBeaver]

I've paid 700 regularly and didn't see her anywhere near as much as I would have liked, always busy, school, work, blah blah blah. Sex was amazing & chemistry in out personalities was incredible. Was worth every bit of what I gave her especially since she initially asked for even more than that. For me she was the total package and the $200 difference I was giving her vs $500 for a "regular" girl or whatever your "normal" price is meant a lot more to her than it did to me. We had dates where sex wouldn't happen for whatever reason and it never bothered me much because I enjoyed her company so much.

Had a score in the US.

Been chatting this girl for over a month. Let's call her be.

We were supposed to have met long ago but something came up for her. Met last night finally. She walks in and I'm like "wow. I want to do this one tonight".

Drinks / dinner, amazing talks, chemistry. We speak about allowance but didn't have explicit agreement.

After 3 hours at dinner table, we move it to my place. More drinks and try initite. She backs away and wants to agree on ppm. Little but of a turn off but we agree on 700. Way too high but what the heck. I have a 8/9 in my room. Let's go. She wanted condoms but I talked her out of it.

To the bed, she straps me, kneels in front, a decent BJ. We kiss, we make out. Then, she kinda forces me to sit on the bed edge, and goes in to straddle me. Takes me all the way in while I'm chewing up her beautiful nipples. She rides me like crazy. We swap to a little bit doggy, then Mish. I pound her. She screams and asks me to come inside. I wasn't sure. She says she is on BC and wants me cum inside. For whatever reason, I just pulled out and came on her tummy.

Maybe she did not like it. I don't know. Wiped clean, went for a shower. Then, we had another drink. I try round 2 but she says she has a weird tummy pain.

We go to sleep. She stayed over (kinda told me she doesn't want to drive drunk).

Next morning, we wake up and I try again. Same atory. She says her tummy hurts. And left.

I have never paid 700 for a single fuck. Sitting here, I don't know what to make out of this. Don't know if I will repeat. Optics are great but some bedroom chemistry missing. Off bedroom chemistry is great.

What do ya'll think?