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01-15-20 04:59 #20
Posts: 1202Originally Posted by Steve9696 [View Original Post]
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01-15-20 03:32 #19
Posts: 2719Yeah $500 Seems Right
Originally Posted by Vendelo [View Original Post]
Now the above of course includes sex. And oh I’ve gotten with three local girls of late just doing drinks rather than dinner. These were the second tier girls where I didn’t really want to spend two hours gazing at them across the table. Worked the same, just a shorter and cheaper experience.
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01-15-20 00:50 #18
Posts: 1202Originally Posted by Vendelo [View Original Post]
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01-14-20 07:25 #17
Posts: 25SA vs Secret Benefits
Which site Seeking Arrangement or Secret Benefits is good in Europe? I'm an SA vet and currently still with my SB for over 3 years. Best addiction of my life. I'm planning a trip to Europe and prefer to meet a non-pro to be my companion while there. I'm talking several days to include overnights. I want a hot, young lady to take to clubs and stuff like that. Suggestions?
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01-13-20 22:00 #16
Posts: 456My SA experience so far
I joined SA about two mos ago. FYI, I am in the San Francisco area.
At first I received a lot of favorites and messages. Most were from my area. Some were from Venezuela, Phillipines, Europe and Africa.
So far I have met 9 women. The first mtgs were M&G over drinks where I offered $200 to show I was serious. Recap:
1. Eastern Euro. She appeared about 10 years older than pics. Was 30 min late to a bar that was 5 min from her place. Not seeing her again.
2. Early 20's Filipina. She changed the time by 3 hours while I was halfway to meeting. Made you turn and then I blocked.
3. Mainland Chinese. Late 20's. Hot bod. Boring. Wants $500 per mtg. I'm not interested. Bye!
4. 30 yr old Latina. Very good looking. Have hung out two more times. Platonic and I'm OK with that. A little too fussy and bossy. Probably done with her.
5. Viet. 23. Cute. Hung out twice. Too far to drive. I'm done.
6. Early 30's Colombian. Holy fuck. Hot! Wants $500 for two hours. I'm done.
7. 27 yr old Taiwanese. Cute. Drinks too much. A little psycho. I'm done.
8. 22 yr old in Guadalajara. Cute. Fatter in person. Nice girl. I'm done.
9. 23 yr old Filipina. Very cute. Enjoyed convo. Wants $500 per mtg. No time limit. Will see again because I am horny.
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01-11-20 05:17 #15
Posts: 2719Usually Dinner Not so Flexible
Originally Posted by Midwestern [View Original Post]
But no question dinner adds a bunch of cost too. My Vegas dinners were like $200-250 each night. But I kinda just ignored it and I really enjoy the girls getting a real SD type night out.
I did one non dinner date where she really wouldn't vibe over chat. So we just went for drinks. This was in Miami. Another Columbiana LOL. But we drank and danced and did shots and hookah for a solid three hours before going to the room. This was early in SA for me and I was not setting price beforehand but playing by ear. I was on my way to Brazil so I could afford a fail and figured if she set price too high I'the walk. So after our theee hours in leaned in and said "hey you want to get out of here — if we go to the room I'll want to give you a gift — did you have something in mind?" And she said $400.
This is actually a reasonable and common price in the US and we were together four hours. I would have paid it. But forum friend Marelobomex had given me a priceless line that I used — "Ouch baby. That's the I don't want to go with I price. I thought you liked me. " And she immediately said 300 and off we went (best value to date — she was smokin hot. But what a priceless line. Thanks MM.
Oh and I am not very flexible I am only in town for 3 or 4 days and wAnt to ensure a fuck every night. So I am very careful to vet the girls beforehand Nd know I have a 90% chance of scoring.
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01-10-20 17:51 #14
Posts: 312Midwestern, and Steve thanks for the information.
I think there are escorts on the site. Some are pretty easy to spot. Like how you can tell a girl is an escort on Facebook. I also see occasional use of the words snow bunny or snow something in the description. These are the words I used to see on escort ads.
When I set it up, I was thinking about using it in South America but never did anything. I recently started to try it again but switch my location to US west coast. I notice I got many favorites from all over the places as far as Philippines or Eastern Europe which I don't see the point to reply. And I must say some US women are picky in that many want others to accommodate them, not the other way around. It is quite different from South America.
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01-10-20 04:58 #13
Posts: 1202Good insights, Steve9696.
Did you ever have a long term (monthly) financial arrangement? If so, I would be curious what the arrangement was. I only had one, 5 k per month, and it was because she wanted to see me every day and even gave me a key to her apartment (plus, she had a body of a Hustler centerfold). Other girls were strict about number of dates, so it wasn't worth it.
I agree with everything you say, but one small exception. I would never do a dinner date as a first date. If there's no chemistry, then it's a waste of a couple of hours. Plus, I'm never horny on a full stomach, LOL. So, I always suggest meeting for drinks. We can split after the first drink if there's no chemistry.
And I especially agree with you that one great aspect of SA is that most of these gals might genuinely like you, since they are not emotionless professional escorts. During initial chit chat, the question of what each other is looking for always arises, and I usually want to hear what they're looking for first, because they usually know what they want, while I'm flexible.
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01-10-20 04:21 #12
Posts: 2719SA Thoughts
Wow this thread suddenly blew up. I'll try to comment on several threads at once.
First of all as I said it takes a lot of time to do it the way I do. But if you just want an escort they are easy to find. They most often will only message you once or twice and then want to go to phone text. And then pretty quickly ask what allowance you offer. So U can use SA for straight up escorts and that's pretty easy.
And I don't use it like Midwestern. In my mind SB is providing sex and more and SD is providing dollars. So I don't have any unpaid SBs. (Minor exception below). It's definitely a paid gig for my girl.
So I try to find pretty new girls and believe me they don't want to be treated like escorts and I their mind they are not. The first 10-20 messages are just friendly chit chat. If they like your sense of humor you are halfway there. At some point you will have to take it over to text. I would not discuss money on SA. The way I normally describe things to a new girl is that I don't want an escort but I also want a complete experience and a complete experience means dinner and drinks and only if chemistry is there then room time also. They we discuss what inwill pay for a complete date. And I make it clear that if the chemistry is not there we will bail after dinner. I even say I will give them $50 for their Uber if they bail. So far I am 15 of 16 with girls going to the room and having a fully satisfactory conclusion. And the one that bailed we were truly into each other and made out and all but she freaked about me being married. So it was not even a total fail and she's in my Rolodex (haha old man word!)
As to overseas I've had two great experiences. I met a girl in Buenos Aires and we spent 21 hours together over 3 days. I gave her $1000. Not all rosy tho because I flew her to London and she broke up with me and fucked other guys on my dime. So that was a bummer! But I ended up finding a Columbian girl in London and negotiated 350£ for 4-5 hours together. And she ends up bringing her hot friend. Dinner dancing and duo sex. Completely epic. And I had told her I would give her 100 if she bails (she balked at the 50 during texting) but she didn't bail! Now to be fair it's up to you to bring the game and close the deal! Just make sure they are having a blast and ur good to go.
Finally I generally agree to avoid Platonic girls and the number of girls looking for money for no sex is staggering and ridiculous. But I contacted one who is a hottie to see if she'the bend the rules and we hit it off soooo good. Turns out she's gay but does Cam girl etc. She's made $450 this week doing cams and photos and walking (non sexually) on a guy and dominating him. So platonic may mean no traditional sex but lots of other stuff possible. I am actually meeting her tomorrow and very excited. (Unpaid buddy date).
To me the best part of SA is the girls decide what they want to do and how far they want to go. There is nothing like a couple hours of dinner, a couple hours of sex and then you realize she is sleeping over because she wants to! Happened twice last month (different girls) and it was awesome both times.
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01-10-20 03:40 #11
Posts: 3240Originally Posted by Midwestern [View Original Post]
In Mexico City, your backup is a twitter escort which takes a little more time and patience than what is available in Colombia, and it is a little more in the $60 to $120 range. There was a lot more GPS among the SBs for sure. I wish I had found a SB that could fuck and suck like the escort Raven Lawson. She is such a high energy nympho. I found one there that I would call a SB that I like, and she was good, but for whatever reason, I thought the Mexico City escorts all provided such a great and intimate experience that I didn't see that much benefit of having a SB there like I did in other places.
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01-10-20 00:56 #10
Posts: 12022 additional suggestions
I also looked at how long the gals have been on the site. If she's been on there for more than a year, then she's probably jaded and maybe she has just become another escort. The new members are the best, because they are excited and you can mold their expectations. One day, I saw a new gal on the site. 24 years old, tall, hot blonde. She even had a masters degree. I contacted her immediately and she agreed to a date and we exchanged contact info. Later that day, she deleted her profile. I asked her why, and she said she was overwhelmed with guys contacting her. Anyway, we had a great relationship for a while. She never asked for money. She just wanted to have fun. She moved back home after grad school and didn't have anyone to go out with, and she was broke because she just started her first job.
If you're worried about using SA in your city, then maybe use it in a nearby city. For example, if you live in Oakland, then meet SA gals in SF. I also did this with success. But of course it takes more time out of your day driving 1 or 2, or more, hours.
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01-10-20 00:44 #9
Posts: 1202THis is very helpful info and gives me more trust in SA. From my 18 months experience on it, I maybe saw one or two seemingly fake profiles out of thousands, and maybe a few escorts out of thousands, so I can confirm that my experience matches what you describe. I eventually quit the site because I was in a large metropolitan area and so using SA was a lot of time and work. I tried it out in smaller metropolitan areas, and success rate was much higher, but fewer options of course.
Originally Posted by ColinBakerKing [View Original Post]
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01-10-20 00:36 #8
Posts: 1202Originally Posted by WindAngel [View Original Post]
I met some gals looking for platonic relationships. Because I was hoping for more. But it never became more. Some gals just want to have a male drinking buddy, or a mentor. The outrageous thing is that they still expected dinners and sometimes some cash. If I were active on SA again, I would ignore those seeking platonic relationships.
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01-09-20 21:49 #7
Posts: 312Originally Posted by Midwestern [View Original Post]
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01-09-20 13:11 #6
Posts: 1202I find it amazing that you guys are able to use SA successfully abroad. Don't you guys ever have a meet-and-greet and chemistry was not there? It's a waste of an evening, which are valuable when abroad. At home, I don't care about wasting the an evening every once in a while.
Originally Posted by Elvis2008 [View Original Post]
Originally Posted by Steve9696 [View Original Post]