Seeking Arrangements

[DramaFree11]

What makes you believe that? The world is changing, and it has changed a lot post-Covid. Nothing works forever.

I think I already posted about it, but a few weeks ago I messaged every attractive girl that has been online recently or is new on SA. Maybe 40-50 girls total. Probably 10 responded. 8 out of 10 would quote a price rate away. The remaining 2 didn't, however they were either very slow to respond or not available to meet, or a combination of both. So, in the end I have zero candidates to work with, if I ditch the ones who quoted me a price. Time is wasted, and if I don't entertain pros, I'm leaving MDE with a pair of blue balls. This is the reality of today's SA in Medellin. It's like Tinder, for example. In the States, Tinder doesn't work no matter how hard you try, especially in tier 1 cities. Literally, zero matches. I go to a place like Russia, and I got a shit ton of matches. Same profile, same photos, same opening messages. Now I'm thinking SA times in Colombia, at least in tier 1 cities, are over. Got to find a new alternative. Colombia has been a no brainer. Nice weather all year round, inexpensive, short flights from the States, and the same time more exotic than Mexico or DR. I have no clue what my next frequent destination will be.

You are correct about everything changing post Covid. Nothing is easy anymore, but there will also be opportunities. For those that work hard and have some money.

If traveling continues to get more expensive, this is going to cause everyone to make lifestyle changes. So there will be less competition in the more expensive destinations. This why I stick with MTY and CDMX.

[MiamiBoy1]

Nah, it worked in 3 countries for over a decade and would work as well today as it would 2 or 3 years ago.

What makes you believe that? The world is changing, and it has changed a lot post-Covid. Nothing works forever.

I think I already posted about it, but a few weeks ago I messaged every attractive girl that has been online recently or is new on SA. Maybe 40-50 girls total. Probably 10 responded. 8 out of 10 would quote a price rate away. The remaining 2 didn't, however they were either very slow to respond or not available to meet, or a combination of both. So, in the end I have zero candidates to work with, if I ditch the ones who quoted me a price. Time is wasted, and if I don't entertain pros, I'm leaving MDE with a pair of blue balls. This is the reality of today's SA in Medellin. It's like Tinder, for example. In the States, Tinder doesn't work no matter how hard you try, especially in tier 1 cities. Literally, zero matches. I go to a place like Russia, and I got a shit ton of matches. Same profile, same photos, same opening messages. Now I'm thinking SA times in Colombia, at least in tier 1 cities, are over. Got to find a new alternative. Colombia has been a no brainer. Nice weather all year round, inexpensive, short flights from the States, and the same time more exotic than Mexico or DR. I have no clue what my next frequent destination will be.

[The Cane]

You should. If it isn't you, it will be someone else. She is the one proposing to meet, you aren't forcing her.

If he doesn't fuck her, then most assuredly someone else will. He didn't seek her out or try to mess anything up. But if she's around and wants to fuck? Just do it! Discretely LOL!

[Elvis 2008]

I guess I was ahead of my time with my assessment of MDE and Colombian Chicks. There are still lots of hot ones, but they have been told they are the hottest girls in the world for several years and guys have been throwing money at them.

I agree. I thought Medellin was over rated when I first went there fifteen years ago. Everyone talks about the great climate but when I was last there, every day was cold, raining, and overcast.

Elvis is correct about searching the smaller cities, but other guys will do the same.

Of all the women I messaged in Cali, I think one had been on a date with a guy from seeking. The rest were seeking virgins. If I were doing seeking, I would focus on the newbies in Barranquilla and Bogota and all the women in Cali. I still think Barranquilla has the hottest women in the country. There are too many foreigners pumping up the egos of women in Cartagena and Medellin.

I would also print up a bunch of business cards and had them out to all the attractive women I met in the smaller towns and ask them about a side job where they could make more money. Even if I just hit one in twenty, that would be enough. If I can get a Colombian woman alone in a coffee shop, I could almost always close the deal.

My favorite city off the beaten path is Villa De Leyva, https://www.tripadvisor.com/Attracti...epartment.html.

I didn't see anyone who was not Colombian there. Maybe not in that city but in the general area, you got people who leave their houses unlocked. Even though it is the same country, it is a far cry from the Medellin materialism.

[The Cane]

Remember one of my previous SBs who got married and I had mixed feelings?

She pings me yesterday out of nowhere that she was thinking about me and our time together. It seems innocent and she shared a few pics from her current life.

She ended with a "good to talk to you. Will let you know when I am around in town".

What are the odds that I will get to fuck her again? Should I / Shouldn't I?

She is one of those few nicest girls I have met and I would want the best for her. On one aide, I don't want sexual desires mess up her current life. On other hand, I have had amazing time with her. Chemisry and sex were always great when it lasted.

The one who I just wrote about who got married? After thinking about it, turns out the last time she contacted me she had to already be married! At least I think so based on when she put that picture up on her FaceBook page and when I received her last text. And when she last contacted me, she said that she missed me and wanted to know if I wanted to see her. I turned her down at the time, not because she had married (I didn't know that then), but because I was going to be really, really busy with work and knew I wasn't going to have time for her (was the busiest time of the year for me). Besides, she had moved for good it seemed and was saying stuff like she didn't know if he could afford the gas, etc. I just wanted to go ahead and break any remaining dependency (both financial and emotional).

But hey, if she was back in this area for some reason (still has some family here) and she wanted to fuck? Damn straight I would fuck her again! And no condoms either. Just like before. She's too good looking not to be taking my sperm if I can dump it in her. I'm not going out of my way to do it. I don't want to get in her marriage. But if she was in town and called me and said, "Hey want to meet up"? Then I would. And then let the chips (and panties) fall where they may. She's the type who would have a fucked up marriage anyway. I can just anticipate that shit (a failed marriage). But, it won't be me who precipitates that. I'm no homewrecker. But, I wouldn't turn down an opportunity to "nut" inside of her beautiful, blonde, "Barbie" self again under the right set of circumstances. No siree Bob I wouldn't!

[Intelligencium]

Should I / Shouldn't I?

She is one of those few nicest girls I have met and I would want the best for her. On one aide, I don't want sexual desires mess up her current life. On other hand, I have had amazing time with her. Chemisry and sex were always great when it lasted.

You should. If it isn't you, it will be someone else. She is the one proposing to meet, you aren't forcing her.

[Gfefan]

Remember one of my previous SBs who got married and I had mixed feelings?

She pings me yesterday out of nowhere that she was thinking about me and our time together. It seems innocent and she shared a few pics from her current life.

She ended with a "good to talk to you. Will let you know when I am around in town".

What are the odds that I will get to fuck her again? Should I / Shouldn't I?

She is one of those few nicest girls I have met and I would want the best for her. On one aide, I don't want sexual desires mess up her current life. On other hand, I have had amazing time with her. Chemisry and sex were always great when it lasted.

[DramaFree11]

It happens much faster in Medellin to see a girl before and after being stimulated by money. It also happens in other cities but at a much slower speed.

I guess I was ahead of my time with my assessment of MDE and Colombian Chicks. There are still lots of hot ones, but they have been told they are the hottest girls in the world for several years and guys have been throwing money at them.

There are still good girls to be found in the smaller cities, but that takes work, time and money. The easy days are over.

Those that have some game, a decent budget and put in the work will still be successful. , Elvis is correct about searching the smaller cities, but other guys will do the same.

[Nounce]

.... Unfortunately, it has become much harder to use this approach in Colombia, this is why I've been itching to try other places, like SP or BA. Even CDMX might be a better option....

It happens much faster in Medellin to see a girl before and after being stimulated by money. It also happens in other cities but at a much slower speed.

[Elvis 2008]

I'm wondering how your approach/strategy would look like right now, if you didn't have a gf. Specifically in Colombia. What worked for you 2-3 years ago might not work today, the time has changed.

Nah, it worked in 3 countries for over a decade and would work as well today as it would 2 or 3 years ago.

Finding a hot woman who would not discuss price at all is like finding a unicorn.

The first SB I had was in 2009 and I had her for 4+ years, paid her $400 a session, saw her every 2 weeks, and she got like $50,000 out of me all told. If you are a professional Colombian, and I sponsor you for any kind of visa, that could potentially be worth millions more in wages.

Factually, MB, you may know this is true, but I suspect you are not emotionally buying into it and confidently selling it. What I have learned is that the women have to trust me before they trust the facts. The smart, trusting, and best were certain that $200 would be peanuts in the long run.

What I would do is send out messages to all the women I was attracted to. I would usually start with the ones new to the site but send out PMs to all the women who I found attractive and narrow the field. It is not easy finding a woman attractive enough, good enough in bed, and interesting enough for me to stay with her for four years. I could pick out quickly if a woman was SB material so I learned that coffee was a better way to mingle than a meal. I had a minimum with regard to looks but I was more interested in casting a wide net and weeding out the pretenders.

MB, you spent most of your time in Medellin, and while I had some luck there mostly with college girls who were from other cities, Medellin had a short term strip club vibe to it. The long term concept was foreign to the women who lived there. Yes, the women were a little hotter than the women in other places but it was not worth the huge difference in character. Strippers, hookers, and cam girls are too married to the P4 P concept to be a good long term partner.

Thing is I was not opposed to paying a woman $200 for a first meet if there was some great need in her life. I just didn't want it to be for sex. That is demeaning to me and to her. Many times a woman would mention their financial needs, and I could get them to a better place for much less than they thought. If they really were not the hooker types, they would be grateful.

I never looked at spending money on prospects as wasted although guys here made fun of me for doing so. Mighty Alabama spends money trying to get the best football players and a lot of time that is money and time wasted. Trying to get the best never is going to be easy. If you do not want to "waste" money, then you should aim low. The sure thing is rarely the best woman.

Thing is when I had built up a harem of women in Colombia, I was operating out of a position of power. It was not like how good are you, but why are you better than what I have? Why would I bother with some hooker for $200 when I already had three or four willing to go bare for $100 or even less and who probably were better in bed?

The ultimate litmus test for me was I could not have a real SB unless she could travel and that meant Mexico. When I bought a potential SB a ticket to Mexico, half of them did not make it, and I suspected which ones would make it and which ones would not. Thing is if you are savvy enough to make it through customs, you are probably savvy enough to be a good SB.

And so any woman saying, "I need $200 to meet" would have been axed by me. A woman who says she needs $200 for her sick grandmother, shows me that she spent the money on grandmother (even if she spent none or just some of it on her), and comes back and fucks the shit out of me like someone who has just helped her grandmother is the kind I wanted.

[Sloninger]

I have had this happen twice and while I feel very happy for both of them and happy it wasn't me that did it, there is a small part that feels a little sense of loss they are no longer available for my pleasure. But I move on to the next ones and get over it quick.

Hell no, not me. But the one and only girl I had a smashing success with on SA before I quit it after only three months of using the site. You guys may recall that back in early 2022, I met this white, blue-eyed, blonde hottie on SA, and we started bareback fucking straight away (with internal cum shots) for about 6 months. Well then she moved too far away for it all to continue, but we remained friendly and stayed in touch for at least another 6 months or so. Then all of a sudden crickets from her. I knew that she still had an ad on SA, but had of course changed her location. And then finally her SA ad disappeared too, which led me to believe that she had probably met somebody. I eventually tried to contact her by text, but no response. That didn't necessarily mean anything to me because she was prone to losing her phone, and my number along with it. I decided to let it go, and figured well if she wants to contact me some day, then she will. So scroll forward to today and I'm looking around online, and wouldn't you know it but FaceBook recommends her to me as a friend! And on her page she has a picture of her at a wedding ceremony! Now, she's some kind of hot, so I'm not surprised that somebody would see fit to wife her up. If she's happy then good for her. But not me man. Her life is fucked! I did some additional searching around and found that she had some legal troubles that she conveniently never told me about, like drugs and intoxication and disorderly contact. I did what I had to do. Nut up inside that pretty "Barbie" and let somebody else marry her. That's the monger way! Like I said, good for the both of them if they're happy. I was while it lasted LOL!

[DramaFree11]

Hell no, not me. But the one and only girl I had a smashing success with on SA before I quit it after only three months of using the site. You guys may recall that back in early 2022, I met this white, blue-eyed, blonde hottie on SA, and we started bareback fucking straight away (with internal cum shots) for about 6 months. Well then she moved too far away for it all to continue, but we remained friendly and stayed in touch for at least another 6 months or so. Then all of a sudden crickets from her. I knew that she still had an ad on SA, but had of course changed her location. And then finally her SA ad disappeared too, which led me to believe that she had probably met somebody. I eventually tried to contact her by text, but no response. That didn't necessarily mean anything to me because she was prone to losing her phone, and my number along with it. I decided to let it go, and figured well if she wants to contact me some day, then she will. So scroll forward to today and I'm looking around online, and wouldn't you know it but FaceBook recommends her to me as a friend! And on her page she has a picture of her at a wedding ceremony! Now, she's some kind of hot, so I'm not surprised that somebody would see fit to wife her up. If she's happy then good for her. But not me man. Her life is fucked! I did some additional searching around and found that she had some legal troubles that she conveniently never told me about, like drugs and intoxication and disorderly contact. I did what I had to do. Nut up inside that pretty "Barbie" and let somebody else marry her. That's the monger way! Like I said, good for the both of them if they're happy. I was while it lasted LOL!

Yep, this a familiar story. I do not deal with too much substance abuse in Mexico, but I got back on SA in Texas, about 6 months ago, unfortunately this is the norm. I met this super hot chick, but she was mess. She told me she had quit drugs, but that was not the case.

Very sad what is happening to girls in the states.

[The Cane]

Her life is fucked! I did some additional searching around and found that she had some legal troubles that she conveniently never told me about, like drugs and intoxication and disorderly contact.

Meant to say disorderly "conduct". And by the way, her new husband was in the picture. Looked to be an early to mid-30's white guy (she's late 20's). I could have had her hand in holy wedded matrimony, but you guys know me. Not going there. And she knew there was no way it was going there. I think that's why she up and split after 6 months. She knew I would never commit to anything long-term, and she obviously needed somebody to do that, even if just for financial reasons. She asked me at one point if all of her problems (the ones I knew about anyway) were a turnoff. Hey, I'm just not the marrying type and never have been (and especially not to somebody who would drag me into all of her personal financial and emotional shit). Nope! No siree Bob! No, I'm the "mongering type" LOL!

[The Cane]

Hell no, not me. But the one and only girl I had a smashing success with on SA before I quit it after only three months of using the site. You guys may recall that back in early 2022, I met this white, blue-eyed, blonde hottie on SA, and we started bareback fucking straight away (with internal cum shots) for about 6 months. Well then she moved too far away for it all to continue, but we remained friendly and stayed in touch for at least another 6 months or so. Then all of a sudden crickets from her. I knew that she still had an ad on SA, but had of course changed her location. And then finally her SA ad disappeared too, which led me to believe that she had probably met somebody. I eventually tried to contact her by text, but no response. That didn't necessarily mean anything to me because she was prone to losing her phone, and my number along with it. I decided to let it go, and figured well if she wants to contact me some day, then she will. So scroll forward to today and I'm looking around online, and wouldn't you know it but FaceBook recommends her to me as a friend! And on her page she has a picture of her at a wedding ceremony! Now, she's some kind of hot, so I'm not surprised that somebody would see fit to wife her up. If she's happy then good for her. But not me man. Her life is fucked! I did some additional searching around and found that she had some legal troubles that she conveniently never told me about, like drugs and intoxication and disorderly contact. I did what I had to do. Nut up inside that pretty "Barbie" and let somebody else marry her. That's the monger way! Like I said, good for the both of them if they're happy. I was while it lasted LOL!

[MiamiBoy1]

Back in the day was two years ago, and I was quoted $250, $300, $800, and even $2000 a month from women, and I did not partake with any of these women because of their rates. In fact, more often that not when I was in Colombia, I did not mention price. We have had this talk before MB and I told you not to mention money when meeting women, and you tried it, and it worked.

Unlike in the USA, I found you did not have to lead with money. What I said was between $70 and $140 satisfied the women and if I was willing to repeat, I could have had seeking women night and day. I averaged 3 dates a day in Medellin and 2 in Bogota. When there were no shows or I was just horny and wanted strange, I ventured out into the hooker world, and I have said this before, the sex I had in the hooker world in Colombia on average was better than I had in the seeking world. I just repeated with the better seeking women.

If a seeking woman wanted $200, and I could have better sex with an escort for half that or a good Santa Fe chick for 10% that, why would I pay that price? Escorts and SWs have prices. Seeking women are supposed to get gifts not set rates.

There was a black girl from Cali in Santa Fe who had the nicest body of any woman I have ever been with in Colombia, and she gave a great massage. First time I saw her, I paid $12. Next time I saw her, I said I wanted an hour with no interruptions and paid her the whopping sum of $25. You make these comments about diseased women in SF and centro in Medellin, and I get where you are coming from but I have seen women from Santa Fe who turn heads and are very into health.

I think the guys who pay the $200+ dollars are deluding themselves into thinking these women are not escorts when they are. If they set a price, they are escorts. Maybe guys think they are low volume and safer because they are on seeking, but I would not take that as gospel.

I kept my seeking diamonds to myself, but I posted and commented on the ones I did not want to repeat with, and a lot of guys saw these women and banged them too, so aren't these women really escorts?

So yeah, maybe some of the Colombian women on seeking are asking for a lot, but I would not pay it. If 8+ escorts are going for $200 an hour, then I would have considered paying $200, but I see no reason for anyone to do that when they are charging $100 an hour. The best sex I have ever had with women from seeking are those where price was never mentioned and inevitably, the women who asked for the least but gave the most in bed got the most out of me.

You made the point you get better service from a seeking woman at $200 than you do from other women. I guarantee you that if I sought out ten escorts in Santa Fe for that same $200, I would find one and probably more than one that gave better service than that $200 an hour seeking woman.

I'm not disagreeing with your approach about not mentioning money. And this approach maybe worked well some time ago or still works in smaller cities or places with little competition. But SA in Medellin, and Bogota to some extent, nowadays is saturated with escorts who would roll out the price before you open your mouth. And as soon as a girl does that, I lose interest, be it a 100 USD or 300 USD, doesn't matter. Finding a hot woman who would not discuss price at all is like finding a unicorn. And look, its not like I'm completely against discussing rates, but I prefer to do it later into the conversation, and also, I don't want to get quoted ("800 k por 3 horas, amor" LOL) and have time constraints, I use Steve's approach, tell them how I see our date going and what my offer is. Unfortunately, it has become much harder to use this approach in Colombia, this is why I've been itching to try other places, like SP or BA. Even CDMX might be a better option.

I'm wondering how your approach/strategy would look like right now, if you didn't have a gf. Specifically in Colombia. What worked for you 2-3 years ago might not work today, the time has changed.