Seeking Arrangements

[MiamiBoy1]

It was harder in the USA from 2014 to 2018 than Colombia is now. If I got two responses in a month, that was good.

MB, I have been with my gal for 2 and a half years. Still, I have 20+ women in the 7 to 9 range in Colombia that I could text and they would see me pronto. On top of that, I have like 200 numbers total on whatsapp from seeking women and I saw one in five of these women at most. I wouldn't even have to go on the site to get or date new / strange. There is no way in Colombia I could ever have blue balls.

And you have been in Colombia way longer looking than I have. How come I have these numbers and you do not? The only thing I can come up with is that you are completely short term focused throwing out the good thinking the next one is going to be better. Honestly, the next one usually is not better than the last good one.

And when you have the good, sometimes the women volunteer up a GF or I will ask if she has a friend and is up for a trio. Some of the hottest women and best fucks I ever had were the friends of the women I had previously seen.

No, I'm not short term focused, I'm actually quite opposite. I prefer to have a roster of decent girls so that I don't have to start everything from scratch every time I come down there. The best time for me was 2020 and a year after, I had 4-5 good girls in rotation. But here is the problem. Good girls don't last long, they either get snatched by someone, or move to a better place / country, or just quit SA and pursue other goals. There is no way for me to keep these arrangements going for 2-3+ years. Heck, some even change phone numbers and delete social media without letting me know, I have lost many contacts this way. So, for me personally, this is not about finding the next girl that is hotter or better, this is about replacing them due to the reasons above. I'm sure they play the same game you are talking about and are always in search for a better SD. Once they find one, you get replaced.

BTW, I can guarantee that the vast majority of your 200 WhatsApp contacts are no longer available, and some numbers have been changed.

[Elvis 2008]

What makes you believe that? The world is changing, and it has changed a lot post-Covid. Nothing works forever.

It was harder in the USA from 2014 to 2018 than Colombia is now. If I got two responses in a month, that was good.

I think I already posted about it, but a few weeks ago I messaged every attractive girl that has been online recently or is new on SA. Maybe 40-50 girls total. Probably 10 responded. 8 out of 10 would quote a price rate away. The remaining 2 didn't, however they were either very slow to respond or not available to meet, or a combination of both. So, in the end I have zero candidates to work with, if I ditch the ones who quoted me a price. Time is wasted, and if I don't entertain pros, I'm leaving MDE with a pair of blue balls.

MB, I have been with my gal for 2 and a half years. Still, I have 20+ women in the 7 to 9 range in Colombia that I could text and they would see me pronto. On top of that, I have like 200 numbers total on whatsapp from seeking women and I saw one in five of these women at most. I wouldn't even have to go on the site to get or date new / strange. There is no way in Colombia I could ever have blue balls.

And you have been in Colombia way longer looking than I have. How come I have these numbers and you do not? The only thing I can come up with is that you are completely short term focused throwing out the good thinking the next one is going to be better. Honestly, the next one usually is not better than the last good one.

And when you have the good, sometimes the women volunteer up a GF or I will ask if she has a friend and is up for a trio. Some of the hottest women and best fucks I ever had were the friends of the women I had previously seen.

[DramaFree11]

Thanks Foolish for linking Ted's post. A monger better stick to Colombia and Brazil instead of dealing with crazy Argies.

Sorry, if you have any standards you will probably hate Colombia, especially MDE. Bogota is definitely better. If you want to talk about bad food and service, MDE is at the top for me, just horrible.

[KilledSoul]

Ted's 2 month experience (he has SBs in MDE and Sao Paulo) http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/...=1#post2767316.

My read from his experience: get a hotel, have low expectations and have backups of backups haha.

Thanks Foolish for linking Ted's post. A monger better stick to Colombia and Brazil instead of dealing with crazy Argies.

[DramaFree11]

I agree. I thought Medellin was over rated when I first went there fifteen years ago. Everyone talks about the great climate but when I was last there, every day was cold, raining, and overcast.

Of all the women I messaged in Cali, I think one had been on a date with a guy from seeking. The rest were seeking virgins. If I were doing seeking, I would focus on the newbies in Barranquilla and Bogota and all the women in Cali. I still think Barranquilla has the hottest women in the country. There are too many foreigners pumping up the egos of women in Cartagena and Medellin.

I would also print up a bunch of business cards and had them out to all the attractive women I met in the smaller towns and ask them about a side job where they could make more money. Even if I just hit one in twenty, that would be enough. If I can get a Colombian woman alone in a coffee shop, I could almost always close the deal.

My favorite city off the beaten path is Villa De Leyva, https://www.tripadvisor.com/Attracti...epartment.html.

I didn't see anyone who was not Colombian there. Maybe not in that city but in the general area, you got people who leave their houses unlocked. Even though it is the same country, it is a far cry from the Medellin materialism.

Handing out Business Cards is straight out of a the Italian Guys hand book. They use to do this when I was hanging out with them on Kiev and Moscow. Sounds crazy, but it works, great idea. Honestly we should all be doing that in are daily lives both professionally and socially.

[DramaFree11]

What makes you believe that? The world is changing, and it has changed a lot post-Covid. Nothing works forever.

I think I already posted about it, but a few weeks ago I messaged every attractive girl that has been online recently or is new on SA. Maybe 40-50 girls total. Probably 10 responded. 8 out of 10 would quote a price rate away. The remaining 2 didn't, however they were either very slow to respond or not available to meet, or a combination of both. So, in the end I have zero candidates to work with, if I ditch the ones who quoted me a price. Time is wasted, and if I don't entertain pros, I'm leaving MDE with a pair of blue balls. This is the reality of today's SA in Medellin. It's like Tinder, for example. In the States, Tinder doesn't work no matter how hard you try, especially in tier 1 cities. Literally, zero matches. I go to a place like Russia, and I got a shit ton of matches. Same profile, same photos, same opening messages. Now I'm thinking SA times in Colombia, at least in tier 1 cities, are over. Got to find a new alternative. Colombia has been a no brainer. Nice weather all year round, inexpensive, short flights from the States, and the same time more exotic than Mexico or DR. I have no clue what my next frequent destination will be.

You are correct about everything changing post Covid. Nothing is easy anymore, but there will also be opportunities. For those that work hard and have some money.

If traveling continues to get more expensive, this is going to cause everyone to make lifestyle changes. So there will be less competition in the more expensive destinations. This why I stick with MTY and CDMX.

[MiamiBoy1]

Nah, it worked in 3 countries for over a decade and would work as well today as it would 2 or 3 years ago.

What makes you believe that? The world is changing, and it has changed a lot post-Covid. Nothing works forever.

I think I already posted about it, but a few weeks ago I messaged every attractive girl that has been online recently or is new on SA. Maybe 40-50 girls total. Probably 10 responded. 8 out of 10 would quote a price rate away. The remaining 2 didn't, however they were either very slow to respond or not available to meet, or a combination of both. So, in the end I have zero candidates to work with, if I ditch the ones who quoted me a price. Time is wasted, and if I don't entertain pros, I'm leaving MDE with a pair of blue balls. This is the reality of today's SA in Medellin. It's like Tinder, for example. In the States, Tinder doesn't work no matter how hard you try, especially in tier 1 cities. Literally, zero matches. I go to a place like Russia, and I got a shit ton of matches. Same profile, same photos, same opening messages. Now I'm thinking SA times in Colombia, at least in tier 1 cities, are over. Got to find a new alternative. Colombia has been a no brainer. Nice weather all year round, inexpensive, short flights from the States, and the same time more exotic than Mexico or DR. I have no clue what my next frequent destination will be.

[The Cane]

You should. If it isn't you, it will be someone else. She is the one proposing to meet, you aren't forcing her.

If he doesn't fuck her, then most assuredly someone else will. He didn't seek her out or try to mess anything up. But if she's around and wants to fuck? Just do it! Discretely LOL!

[Elvis 2008]

I guess I was ahead of my time with my assessment of MDE and Colombian Chicks. There are still lots of hot ones, but they have been told they are the hottest girls in the world for several years and guys have been throwing money at them.

I agree. I thought Medellin was over rated when I first went there fifteen years ago. Everyone talks about the great climate but when I was last there, every day was cold, raining, and overcast.

Elvis is correct about searching the smaller cities, but other guys will do the same.

Of all the women I messaged in Cali, I think one had been on a date with a guy from seeking. The rest were seeking virgins. If I were doing seeking, I would focus on the newbies in Barranquilla and Bogota and all the women in Cali. I still think Barranquilla has the hottest women in the country. There are too many foreigners pumping up the egos of women in Cartagena and Medellin.

I would also print up a bunch of business cards and had them out to all the attractive women I met in the smaller towns and ask them about a side job where they could make more money. Even if I just hit one in twenty, that would be enough. If I can get a Colombian woman alone in a coffee shop, I could almost always close the deal.

My favorite city off the beaten path is Villa De Leyva, https://www.tripadvisor.com/Attracti...epartment.html.

I didn't see anyone who was not Colombian there. Maybe not in that city but in the general area, you got people who leave their houses unlocked. Even though it is the same country, it is a far cry from the Medellin materialism.

[The Cane]

Remember one of my previous SBs who got married and I had mixed feelings?

She pings me yesterday out of nowhere that she was thinking about me and our time together. It seems innocent and she shared a few pics from her current life.

She ended with a "good to talk to you. Will let you know when I am around in town".

What are the odds that I will get to fuck her again? Should I / Shouldn't I?

She is one of those few nicest girls I have met and I would want the best for her. On one aide, I don't want sexual desires mess up her current life. On other hand, I have had amazing time with her. Chemisry and sex were always great when it lasted.

The one who I just wrote about who got married? After thinking about it, turns out the last time she contacted me she had to already be married! At least I think so based on when she put that picture up on her FaceBook page and when I received her last text. And when she last contacted me, she said that she missed me and wanted to know if I wanted to see her. I turned her down at the time, not because she had married (I didn't know that then), but because I was going to be really, really busy with work and knew I wasn't going to have time for her (was the busiest time of the year for me). Besides, she had moved for good it seemed and was saying stuff like she didn't know if he could afford the gas, etc. I just wanted to go ahead and break any remaining dependency (both financial and emotional).

But hey, if she was back in this area for some reason (still has some family here) and she wanted to fuck? Damn straight I would fuck her again! And no condoms either. Just like before. She's too good looking not to be taking my sperm if I can dump it in her. I'm not going out of my way to do it. I don't want to get in her marriage. But if she was in town and called me and said, "Hey want to meet up"? Then I would. And then let the chips (and panties) fall where they may. She's the type who would have a fucked up marriage anyway. I can just anticipate that shit (a failed marriage). But, it won't be me who precipitates that. I'm no homewrecker. But, I wouldn't turn down an opportunity to "nut" inside of her beautiful, blonde, "Barbie" self again under the right set of circumstances. No siree Bob I wouldn't!

[Intelligencium]

Should I / Shouldn't I?

She is one of those few nicest girls I have met and I would want the best for her. On one aide, I don't want sexual desires mess up her current life. On other hand, I have had amazing time with her. Chemisry and sex were always great when it lasted.

You should. If it isn't you, it will be someone else. She is the one proposing to meet, you aren't forcing her.

[Gfefan]

Remember one of my previous SBs who got married and I had mixed feelings?

She pings me yesterday out of nowhere that she was thinking about me and our time together. It seems innocent and she shared a few pics from her current life.

She ended with a "good to talk to you. Will let you know when I am around in town".

What are the odds that I will get to fuck her again? Should I / Shouldn't I?

She is one of those few nicest girls I have met and I would want the best for her. On one aide, I don't want sexual desires mess up her current life. On other hand, I have had amazing time with her. Chemisry and sex were always great when it lasted.

[DramaFree11]

It happens much faster in Medellin to see a girl before and after being stimulated by money. It also happens in other cities but at a much slower speed.

I guess I was ahead of my time with my assessment of MDE and Colombian Chicks. There are still lots of hot ones, but they have been told they are the hottest girls in the world for several years and guys have been throwing money at them.

There are still good girls to be found in the smaller cities, but that takes work, time and money. The easy days are over.

Those that have some game, a decent budget and put in the work will still be successful. , Elvis is correct about searching the smaller cities, but other guys will do the same.

[Nounce]

.... Unfortunately, it has become much harder to use this approach in Colombia, this is why I've been itching to try other places, like SP or BA. Even CDMX might be a better option....

It happens much faster in Medellin to see a girl before and after being stimulated by money. It also happens in other cities but at a much slower speed.

[Elvis 2008]

I'm wondering how your approach/strategy would look like right now, if you didn't have a gf. Specifically in Colombia. What worked for you 2-3 years ago might not work today, the time has changed.

Nah, it worked in 3 countries for over a decade and would work as well today as it would 2 or 3 years ago.

Finding a hot woman who would not discuss price at all is like finding a unicorn.

The first SB I had was in 2009 and I had her for 4+ years, paid her $400 a session, saw her every 2 weeks, and she got like $50,000 out of me all told. If you are a professional Colombian, and I sponsor you for any kind of visa, that could potentially be worth millions more in wages.

Factually, MB, you may know this is true, but I suspect you are not emotionally buying into it and confidently selling it. What I have learned is that the women have to trust me before they trust the facts. The smart, trusting, and best were certain that $200 would be peanuts in the long run.

What I would do is send out messages to all the women I was attracted to. I would usually start with the ones new to the site but send out PMs to all the women who I found attractive and narrow the field. It is not easy finding a woman attractive enough, good enough in bed, and interesting enough for me to stay with her for four years. I could pick out quickly if a woman was SB material so I learned that coffee was a better way to mingle than a meal. I had a minimum with regard to looks but I was more interested in casting a wide net and weeding out the pretenders.

MB, you spent most of your time in Medellin, and while I had some luck there mostly with college girls who were from other cities, Medellin had a short term strip club vibe to it. The long term concept was foreign to the women who lived there. Yes, the women were a little hotter than the women in other places but it was not worth the huge difference in character. Strippers, hookers, and cam girls are too married to the P4 P concept to be a good long term partner.

Thing is I was not opposed to paying a woman $200 for a first meet if there was some great need in her life. I just didn't want it to be for sex. That is demeaning to me and to her. Many times a woman would mention their financial needs, and I could get them to a better place for much less than they thought. If they really were not the hooker types, they would be grateful.

I never looked at spending money on prospects as wasted although guys here made fun of me for doing so. Mighty Alabama spends money trying to get the best football players and a lot of time that is money and time wasted. Trying to get the best never is going to be easy. If you do not want to "waste" money, then you should aim low. The sure thing is rarely the best woman.

Thing is when I had built up a harem of women in Colombia, I was operating out of a position of power. It was not like how good are you, but why are you better than what I have? Why would I bother with some hooker for $200 when I already had three or four willing to go bare for $100 or even less and who probably were better in bed?

The ultimate litmus test for me was I could not have a real SB unless she could travel and that meant Mexico. When I bought a potential SB a ticket to Mexico, half of them did not make it, and I suspected which ones would make it and which ones would not. Thing is if you are savvy enough to make it through customs, you are probably savvy enough to be a good SB.

And so any woman saying, "I need $200 to meet" would have been axed by me. A woman who says she needs $200 for her sick grandmother, shows me that she spent the money on grandmother (even if she spent none or just some of it on her), and comes back and fucks the shit out of me like someone who has just helped her grandmother is the kind I wanted.