Seeking Arrangements

[Gfefan]

Yeah, just counted. 10 texts with no response. 45 days since I last received.

"We will meet soon. In fact, I think you will like my dirty idea to spice it up". I ask her "what is it? I'm curious". She went "surprise. Trust me. I have learned a thing or two about what you like".

That was the last I heard from her 45 days ago.

Man, I like this girl. Her body is to die for. And she gets so wet that I enjoy pounding her. That too, she is safe CIP.

10-12 with no response? That's beyond a solid ghosting. I'the usually move on. Only saving Grace might be if you have her CashApp and know her birthday or some other reasonable excuse to CashApp her. I know all my girls birthdays. I usually ask first date and then they forget all about it. They are so amazed when I remember. (because I write it down! Had one or two girls respark after birthday gift but never totally reconnected to date.

[Steve 9696]

I have my top 5 girls - 4 in EU, 1 in US (yes, the gap is glaring. If I do top 10,it is 9 in Europe and the same 1 in US). Of these top 5, three are already in the "non-transactional" bucket. Meaning they will see me with no expectation of $ and I will send $ or help them otherwise with no expectation of sex. The other two are fast getting there. But not quite yet.

Now, one of the other two has stopped responding to my texts. We were chatting like GF / BF for over a month after we met couple times and had great sex. I would like to meet her a few more times but she went quiet.

How do you handle these? Any tips?

I almost want to call her up but don't want to invade her privacy / regular life. She has not responded to the last 10/12 messages I have sent in last over 30 days. The last one being "Hey, hope all is well. Are you mad at me for some reason? Happy to chat".

No response.

10-12 with no response? That's beyond a solid ghosting. I'the usually move on. Only saving Grace might be if you have her CashApp and know her birthday — or some other reasonable excuse to CashApp her. I know all my girls birthdays. I usually ask first date and then they forget all about it. They are so amazed when I remember. (because I write it down! Had one or two girls respark after birthday gift but never totally reconnected to date.

[Gfefan]

I would recommend not doing "No payment" right away. Meet her a few more times. Sometimes, the chemistry fade. Sometimes, they themselves say no to money. The latter is what happened with my 3 "no-pay" girls. Trust me. The sex gets better from that point where they say "no money".

Once they say so, I still comp them in other ways. Some of these girls are so nice that they say no money because they like us but silently go through some pain in their personal life. More often than not, financial. I feel for them and not take advantage of them being nice to me.

For example, my best girl ran into an issue where her insurance refused covering a certain accident she got into. She was short by 1 k EUR. She was trying to borrow from someone else and I accidentally came to know. I simply wired her 1. 5 K. I care for her than the money. She is adamant that she will return it next when I am in Europe but I told her no. I told her when I return to Europe, I just want to have good time with her. Go on a road trip. So, book your holidays. That's all I need.

Thanks for the tip. At that time I knew she was looking for money, so I didn't try to negotiate anything. But now she says that she is off SA, but will still meet me if I ever visit Europe (she said she will be happy to fly wherever I am in Europe), so there's definitely a possibility of no payment now.

[Gfefan]

I have my top 5 girls - 4 in EU, 1 in US (yes, the gap is glaring. If I do top 10,it is 9 in Europe and the same 1 in US). Of these top 5, three are already in the "non-transactional" bucket. Meaning they will see me with no expectation of $ and I will send $ or help them otherwise with no expectation of sex. The other two are fast getting there. But not quite yet.

Now, one of the other two has stopped responding to my texts. We were chatting like GF / BF for over a month after we met couple times and had great sex. I would like to meet her a few more times but she went quiet.

How do you handle these? Any tips?

I almost want to call her up but don't want to invade her privacy / regular life. She has not responded to the last 10/12 messages I have sent in last over 30 days. The last one being "Hey, hope all is well. Are you mad at me for some reason? Happy to chat".

No response.

[Gfefan]

Do not entertain these platinum pussies. I was pretty frustrated (still I am) but managed to find a few at 400 $. These are decent. Not supermodels but are girlfriend like.

Great report! Where are you getting 500 for two in US? I just began searching in US (bay area) and quotes are starting at 1000 for a 6/7 girl.

[Steve 9696]

Great report! Where are you getting 500 for two in US? I just began searching in US (bay area) and quotes are starting at 1000 for a 6/7 girl.

Well it was kinda the perfect storm. First this was about 18 months ago. Second it's Cincinatti. Third it's black girls right or wrong they often charge less. And lastly they were complete newbies and don't know "market". So yeah it was not only a sex home run but a value home run.

I did have this happen in London also tho with a more experienced Colombiana. She wanted 350 which is a little high but not much. Then like almost when I was to the restaurant she says can her friend come because it's her birthday. And I think Boo! She's trying to double me up and get 700. But nope. She's bringing her friend and it's still 350. The original girl was a full on 9 but her friend a 7. But the friend was super affectionate. We ate dinner and danced for three hours and then room time. As I said in my report at the time Tana brought the optics and Liliana brought the GFE. It was a great combo. And 350 straight up for both!

[Intelligencium]

. Five stars!

Great report! Where are you getting 500 for two in US? I just began searching in US (bay area) and quotes are starting at 1000 for a 6/7 girl.

[AmericanPi]

Not knocking anyone but my thought is they know I'm serious and not one of the billion scammers on the site. I've said it before, a fast food worker can afford "premium" (at least in my coastal city). But not everyone can shell out close to $300 a mo. I can't say for certain that it works but I am very happy with what I've been able to pull when I'm up for wasting the time on the site. I don't maintain an account, when I find someone I like, I delete and start over when it ends so I probably pay about the same a year as someone who pays for premium monthly. I'm noticing the quality is really down right now which I was not expecting now that unis are back in session. I don't see many co-eds at all. Very disappointing.

OK that explains it at least. Thanks for the response.

Do girls actually know / understand what that membership is? Like do you get the social credit you're paying for?

[Steve 9696]

So I had a great sex date earlier this week with a regular in a city I visit. Was going to fuck her three nights but she bagged on the second two. I tried some last minute bombs into Seeking girls but no bites. So I started reading my book for entertainment. And I came across this story which was literally the best sex I've ever had and it proves that even the wildest things are possible. Like in of all places. Cincinnati Ohio! And zero Seeking lead up with chat etc — super last minute. Absolute non pro first timers. And it was an amazing duo and duos can sometimes be a bust. But this was amazing since they were lesbian lovers but just want dick from time to time. So it was against all odds and the finest two hours of sex ever and I learned so much! Here's how it went down.

OK I am definitely on a black girls run. Confirmed tonight with a last minute duo score. Of course I was just with Kayla in Florida, but have traveled to Cincinnati. I had researched it before and had some prospects but honestly I was fucked out. Just couldn't muster the energy.

Till night three. LOL. There was a work event and after a couple glasses of wine, I start thinking "why not" and start texting girls randomly from my playlist or brand new prospects from SA. Very aggressive opener — like "I'm going out tonight to a nice dinner and drinks. Want to join me?" I had used this approach in London with some success and generally recommend it.

A few nibbles but really no bites and I am now back in my hotel room half heartedly sending out inquiries, when I get a response from two black girls. "Sure. $500 for us both". They aren't quite my type but marginally cute and I haven't had a duo in a while so I say let's do it. I'm a little wary of course because you rarely get that direct a come on. But I go with the flow — carefully.

Originally, I suggest we meet at a bar, but they remind me they are both only twenty and underage for drinking. LOL. So better to come to the room. Of course my scam radar is on high. Because they are driving 30 miles to see me and coming straight to the room. Not exactly standard offering. We are texting and they say they are on their way. I am certain I am going to get the "oh we are out of gas can you send money" text and resigned to jacking off. But the text never comes and sure enough they show up! WTF?

Amara is a rail thin tall dark black girl and Kayara is a thick light black girl. Couldn't be two more different looking black females. Turns out they are girlfriends and have been dating nine months. This ends up being very important to the vibe and what all we do. Amara is clearly the alpha and Kayara enjoys being a sub.

We chat amiably over some wine and I learn lots of interesting things. They are both freshman in college (skipped a year after HS) so there's that fantasy to check off. They tell me about their relationship. And I also learn that they have tried Seeking twice and were stood up both times! One time they drove two hours and were stood up! Poor things — all they want is a daddy to fuck! So I am their first SD and boy do we make it memorable.

You can tell they are both a little nervous but the wine is helping Amara. Kayara doesn't drink and def seems a bit more shy. We actually have a really good conversation— what are they studying and why, what do I do for work etc. Eventually I excuse myself to go pee and say for them to get more comfortable if they like. They are both just in sweats because this was a last minute deal and they just came on. But in a way it's great because I'm going to be fucking two freshman coeds you might see on the the quad! LOL.

On returning, Amara is under the covers but sweatshirt still on and Kayara is slowly undressing. When Kayara is down to her bra (nice big the Cups) I come over and embrace her and go for the kiss. At first I get a cheek, then two small pecks on the lips. Hmm, this seems like a bad sign but I just go with the flow. Glad I did!

I say "it's really cute that you are both so new to this" and they say why do I say that. And I say just by the way you kissed, I could tell you are really nervous. So Amara, the skinny one — and I mean she must be 5-10 and weigh 80 pounds — really amazing in an odd way — she gestures for me to come to the bed where she rears up and plants a deep and passionate French kiss on me — like this is how it's done baby. I find that even though she is in her sweatshirt she is naked down below. I squeeze that amazing tight ass with both hands and start to grow hard.

Pretty soon I am naked standing at the side of the bed, Kayara has finished undressing revealing a thick but attractive bod and Amara pulls her sweatshirt off over her head. Kayara starts blowing me while I make out with Amara but soon they are both blowing the fuck out of me and I remember why I like duos!

The double BJ is absolutely epic. They seem to be totally in sync. Two mouths on shaft side to side. Kayara on shaft, Amara on balls. Amara on upper shaft, Kayara on lower. After a while I stop paying attention to what's what. There is so much sloppy shit going on down there that it's mind blowing and I can't keep track of all the sensations.

A couple of times I get the urge to fuck, but then think bloody hell why would I stop this? They must blow me easily for 20 minutes before I decide I've got to fuck one or the other. First up is Kayara in doggie style where she can eat Amaras pussy. Of course girls are pros at eating pussy, so she is driving Amara absolutely bat shit crazy as I fuck her from behind. She has a nice thick butt to grab on to and as she gets more and more lost in it (she likes fucking) she's whispering "fuck me daddy. Yes, like that. Harder. " LOL.

After an eternity of this (I had jacked off earlier that day thinking it was going to be a celibate night) I decide to try out Amara and I swap them up. No need to change condoms because they are lovers! Amara is still on her back so Kayara moves up to sit on her face and I plunge into mish with Amara. She's very tight as you might expect given her body type. Some light bites and kisses on Kayara's back since it's right where my face lands. And some great mish pounding of Amara.

I eventually decide I want to cum, hoping to even do a round 2 but that's never guaranteed. So I lose the condom and lie on my back and they go to work. It's spectacular again and a lot of it but not quite cumming. So I move to standing again where they are on the edge of bed and I get a great visual. After quite a bit more I start to cum in Kayaras mouth (she is better on shaft) and she pulls me out of our her mouth. So I start to shoot on Amaras shoulder as she is on ball work. Good girl she is, Amara doesn't want to waste good cum, so she gets me back in her mouth for a few pumps of finish CIM. Damn. Like that girl's swagger!

They start working me and kissing me for round two instantly but I say I need to rest a bit. So we cuddle, but after a minute, Amara starts to finger Kayaras pussy and they are off to the races for the best girl on girl I've ever witnessed. I learned a lot!

Amara is using her two middle fingers inside Kayara and fucking her aggressively and hard while slathering her clit with her tongue. Kayara is off in space somewhere and squealing and moaning. Then Amara switches to fingers side to side on clit. Her hand is moving so fast it's a blur -- I mean literally a blur. And Kayara is going nuts. She has a clenching O but Amara is merciless and drives her for another O right after and then another.

I join the fun as we are just using Kayara like a fuck toy and she is sooooo down with that. So Amara starts finger fucking her again and I simultaneously do the furious clit side to side rubbing so she is getting doubled up. And fuck she goes thru two or three more Os. She's convulsing and shaking and eventually swats both our hands away (literally). It's like she's had electroshock and is just totally wiped out.

I only let her rest a minute or so and bring Kayara to the edge of the bed for mish with me standing. So now Kayara can do Amara for a while when Amara sits on her face. She's a lot more gentle but Amara seems to like it and has some face scrunching Os. The fucking of Kayara goes on a long time- and I love that position. Even though I think Kayara is all fucked out, not so. Her legs are straight up in the air as I fuck her deep and she has a couple Os one right after the other. Her right leg goes stiff and vibrates like a motherfucker and then subsides and then about 10 strokes later she's hit by another wave and the leg goes batshit crazy again. Can't fake that shit!

At some point I get the desire to finger fuck Amara the way she did Kayara. So while Kayara is curled up in a fetal ball resting, LOL, I start making out with Amara and finger fucking her with my middle and ring finger as I learned from her. I am going in and out aggressively but she hand signals to do the same; but not in and out — but instead, aggressive gspot tapping. This is prob what she was doing inside of K — finger fucking and gspot tapping both look similar from outside. So I am tapping her gspot like a madman and she has some crashing Os.

I've had pussys clamp down on me before but hers it like a full pushout. It feels like her pelvic floor is coming down and absolutely drives my fingers out. Then it relaxes and back in I go. And tap tap tap and boom another wave. Normally I would stop but I learned from watching them, that a girl can have a connected string of Os. So I go again and give her a couple more where she totally clamps down and pushes me out with her pussy. It's really something. Wow.

Ok time to fuck Amara again so I fuck her in doggie and she eats Kayaras pussy some more. Eventually we all kinda tire and they slide under the covers and create a little space between them for me. I squeeze in and we doze and snuggle for a while, a girl's head on each shoulder. King of the world.

They are lightly playing with me by hand under the covers and I say I think I have one more shot in me if they are game. So we pull back the covers and down they go. A true labor of love -- they must be at it another ten minutes or more and it is truly great. I think I might have to go to a hand finish but when Kayara is on shaft and Amara on balls. OMG. It's soooo good. Eventually I shoot a load — again Kayara backing off but Amara quickly slurps up the goods! What a team.

So then we just doze and cuddle but eventually they have to go. Amara has class at 10:30 AM but Kayara has a 7:00 AM class. College girls! Def one of my best pure sex experiences ever. Never been with two girls so passionately into each other but still with the right focus on me. It was a two hour blur of nonstop fucking and sucking and fingering. Five stars!

[AluHut]

I just legitimately do not understand it. Like why someone would get it. I get the Upsell and always think who is the guy who's like yeah I drop 3 x for the same thing?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I_Am_Rich

[FilthyBeaver]

Not knocking anyone but my thought is they know I'm serious and not one of the billion scammers on the site. I've said it before, a fast food worker can afford "premium" (at least in my coastal city). But not everyone can shell out close to $300 a mo. I can't say for certain that it works but I am very happy with what I've been able to pull when I'm up for wasting the time on the site. I don't maintain an account, when I find someone I like, I delete and start over when it ends so I probably pay about the same a year as someone who pays for premium monthly. I'm noticing the quality is really down right now which I was not expecting now that unis are back in session. I don't see many co-eds at all. Very disappointing.

I just legitimately do not understand it. Like why someone would get it. I get the Upsell and always think who is the guy who's like yeah I drop 3 x for the same thing?

[Intelligencium]

Thanks for the tip. At that time I knew she was looking for money, so I didn't try to negotiate anything. But now she says that she is off SA, but will still meet me if I ever visit Europe (she said she will be happy to fly wherever I am in Europe), so there's definitely a possibility of no payment now.

The first time I went to Latin America was Argentina. I picked up a girl at a club / brothel called Madaho's and this woman didn't do the petty five minute massage an American hooker would but she rubbed my back non-stop for an hour and a half. I got her number but did not call her. I saw someone else the next night who was not nearly as good. When I went back to Madaho's for a third night, she was there and I brought her back to my place again and it was not as passionate. She was pissed I did not call her and knew I had seen someone else. What I learned is once a girl likes you, she will continue to fuck you for nothing, but I wanted to continue to pay because I thought because I was married, I could only have P4 P relationship. I was not emotionally ready myself for anything but that. I wish I would have been.

When you got a girl like Lisa in tears and fucking you like she did, it means she really likes you. With my current woman, it was her tears that told me that she was in love with me. When you are a single mom, it is really tough. Before me, my gal spent every day on her daughter, working out, and at her job, and that was it. She did not have time for anything else. When I came along, she got back to having a life again, and it was not just the sex and fun. There was the adult companionship and having someone to hold at night.

With all this feminist dogma, and my mother grew up at the beginning of the movement, I was shocked to hear my own mother say, "It is great for a woman to have a man to care for. " That was something that was said in the 1950's, but you better not say it today. No, all that is said is what you can do for a woman, but women, even if they do not admit it now, really do like having a man to care for.

I can usually tell if a woman is a mother or not just by how they touch me. The single mom has a much more nurturing loving touch, and it seems like once that nurturing channel is open, it applies not just to children but their man as well.

My point is you didn't have to pay Lisa if you did not want to. For me, payment was to define it being a P4 P relationship that harkens back to that Charlie Sheen line that I am not paying them for sex but paying them to leave. If you want a relationship with this woman where you pay for dinner, travel ETC but not hard cash, it is / was there.

With my current gal, I met her off SA and left money in her purse the first time we met, and a guy on here ragged on me for giving her anything without asking, and he was right to rag on me. So the next time we met, I gave her no money and she still was willing to hang with me. That is why I so often tell guys on here to just try not mentioning money when meeting a SA woman. I was surprised how many women, granted not American women, were willing to meet without an upfront price.

[AmericanPi]

There is no reason to update your subscription, just a way for SA to suck more money out of you.

I just legitimately do not understand it. Like why someone would get it. I get the Upsell and always think who is the guy who's like yeah I drop 3 x for the same thing?

[Jdweeb]

Anyone with recent experience using SA in BC, Canada. Is it worth the cost?

[DramaFree11]

I am not considering upgrading. I'm honestly just curious. What's the point of the diamond subscription? It seems like very little benefit other than you get to signal you spent more on your subscription than the next guy. It seems like more a signal of stupidity than anything else. Am I missing the point?

There is no reason to update your subscription, just a way for SA to suck more money out of you.